Current Events > I really can't stand when stores go "We close at 10 PM" and once you

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They learned their lessons when they wound up there until 11pm.
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fenderbender321 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

cardoor123 posted...

Stallion_Prime posted...

Going to a restaurant 5 minutes before closing should be punisheable with the death penalty tbh

then why the fuck is that restaurant advertising itself as being open then?

This is what I don't understand....if the policy is to get employees out on the dot at a certain time, why not just move the closing time back 30 minutes? Why try to have it both ways which pisses off both customers and employees?

Because pitting them against each other takes heat off of them for bad practices. Businesses do that all the time to distract from their own responsibility over the issue.

But the business winds up losing money over it. Why would upper management, officers, and shareholders be okay with that?

My assumption is that they don't lose as much as they gain by not paying their employees an extra 30 minutes a day perpetually. Customers get pissed at the employees for their shitty attitude and employees get pissed at customers for coming in later, and neither thinks to go "huh, this business is shitty, I'll take my money or skill elsewhere". Sure, a few customers will speak with their wallets, but the vast majority of people will put up with bad service if the next best alternative is 10 minutes away, and the vast majority of retail employees can't afford to collectively jump ship and leave a business hanging.
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How are people still arguing about this? The employees need time to clean up and put stuff away before leaving. They don't want to do it after closing because they don't get paid.
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LightningAce11 posted...

How are people still arguing about this? The employees need time to clean up and put stuff away before leaving. They don't want to do it after closing because they don't get paid.

Because entitled people are stupid.

LightningAce11 posted...

How are people still arguing about this? The employees need time to clean up and put stuff away before leaving. They don't want to do it after closing because they don't get paid.

We stopped talking about employees staying after hours PAGES ago. It's mostly been about customers coming in before closing and exactly how far before closing is considered "fair" and at what point or under what conditions it's considered bad form.

It turns out it's 11 minutes as long as you're out of the door before closing and don't mess up the shelves.
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I'd like people to start putting out some names and addresses of actual stores where employees "don't get paid" to close the store.
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LightningAce11 posted...

The employees need time to clean up and put stuff away before leaving. They don't want to do it after closing because they don't get paid.

Then they need to report the company to the state labor board because that's highly illegal.
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They get paid....but they shouldn't be expected to stay either. spare me all the "minimum wage get a better job!" nonsense....they shouldn't be expected to just be ok with having to stay later. "then just leave, their employers are jerks for making them stay"...people who say shit like that are the same people who will bitch and moan about retail workers being lazy....Its their job, so they stay to finish their job.
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MutantJohn posted...

etail, it doesn't really matter unless they leave merchandise in odd locations.

You say that like it only happens occasionally and not every day.
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I'll usually just tell them. I know what I want and where it is, I'll be five minutes and they seem fine with it.
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redrocket_pub posted...

I'd like people to start putting out some names and addresses of actual stores where employees "don't get paid" to close the store.

My big issue is that if you're late closing the store there's the potential of write ups and such. My boss is cool so she doesn't write us up, but the extra payroll is taken out of her vacation time.
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WrestlinFan posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

I'd like people to start putting out some names and addresses of actual stores where employees "don't get paid" to close the store.

My big issue is that if you're late closing the store there's the potential of write ups and such. My boss is cool so she doesn't write us up, but the extra payroll is taken out of her vacation time.

Oh shit WrestlinFan sighting what's up man?
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Conflict posted...

knuxnole posted...

They should get loans and not waste time working a stupid job if they hate it.

Never work somewhere that you feel miserable in.

You can't get loans if you have no income, einstein

You can take loans if you don't work....duh!!!!!

I have zero sympathy for kids who work jobs. None. It's their fault and I laugh at their pathetic faces wasting their youth
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Imagine telling a mother who came out to buy a few things to make breakfast for her kids before school the next day to scram because it's 9:58. Hate to tell you but you're the asshole.
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ledbowman posted...

Imagine telling a mother who came out to buy a few things to make breakfast for her kids before school the next day to scram because it's 9:58. Hate to tell you but you're the asshole.

Lol nice appeal to emotion.
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MutantJohn posted...

ledbowman posted...

Imagine telling a mother who came out to buy a few things to make breakfast for her kids before school the next day to scram because it's 9:58. Hate to tell you but you're the asshole.

Lol nice appeal to emotion.

You mean appeal to real shit that happens every day.
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You can come in right before the store closes all you want, but if we've cleaned or counted what you want already, then tough cookies. If you are going to be and edgemaster and slide in at the end, expect to get cut sometimes.
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Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Imagine telling a mother who came out to buy a few things to make breakfast for her kids before school the next day to scram because it's 9:58. Hate to tell you but you're the asshole.

Implausible situations like that don't make for a strong argument. If she really cared that much about buying things for her kids she would've came earlier.

Implausible my ass. You think people don't run out for milk at the last minute every day? The reason she didn't see she needed milk was likely because she was doing laundry and giving baths after working 7-5. If you think that's rare, you are dumb.
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In wi staying in the store after closing hours was technically tresspassing.
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MutantJohn posted...

Lol nice appeal to emotion.

which side in this is not?
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Conflict posted...

What's dumb is going to the store two minutes before the listed closing time and blaming the store instead of y'know, the woman for going to the store too damn late. Go to a different store or try again next time when you aren't so busy.

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

They get paid....but they shouldn't be expected to stay either. spare me all the "minimum wage get a better job!" nonsense....they shouldn't be expected to just be ok with having to stay later. "then just leave, their employers are jerks for making them stay"...people who say shit like that are the same people who will bitch and moan about retail workers being lazy....Its their job, so they stay to finish their job.

I have to work outside normal business hours for my not-minimum wage job and I do not even get paid more for it, so I don't understand why you think that would be an argument one would make.
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Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.

It's been said multiple times itt why employees can't work unauthorized overtime. By 9:58 the store is pretty much closed up anyway.

But it's not closed. And it has also been said multiple times itt that shit policies aren't a customer problem, they're a company problem. If they'll fire you for staying over because you were helping a customer then fuck it, probably was a shit place to work for anyway.
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Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.

It's been said multiple times itt why employees can't work unauthorized overtime. By 9:58 the store is pretty much closed up anyway.

That's your argument? Ok dude.
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Conflict posted...

(at which point you're practically trespassing past closing)

oh, so you're not being serious
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Conflict posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.

It's been said multiple times itt why employees can't work unauthorized overtime. By 9:58 the store is pretty much closed up anyway.

But it's not closed. And it has also been said multiple times itt that shit policies aren't a customer problem, they're a company problem. If they'll fire you for staying over because you were helping a customer then fuck it, probably was a shit place to work for anyway.

Coming into the store 2 minutes before closing (at which point you're practically trespassing past closing) is a customer problem.

I don't even know why you guys are trying to argue this, lol. There's literally no excuse for coming into the store at 9:58.

Why can't you let people in the door till 10? That's what open till 10 means.
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ledbowman posted...

Conflict posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.

It's been said multiple times itt why employees can't work unauthorized overtime. By 9:58 the store is pretty much closed up anyway.

But it's not closed. And it has also been said multiple times itt that shit policies aren't a customer problem, they're a company problem. If they'll fire you for staying over because you were helping a customer then fuck it, probably was a shit place to work for anyway.

Coming into the store 2 minutes before closing (at which point you're practically trespassing past closing) is a customer problem.

I don't even know why you guys are trying to argue this, lol. There's literally no excuse for coming into the store at 9:58.

Why can't you let people in the door till 10? That's what open till 10 means.

Then they can stay all night? I mean, they're inside by 10 why leave?
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ledbowman posted...

Why can't you let people in the door till 10? That's what open till 10 means.

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ledbowman posted...

Conflict posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.

It's been said multiple times itt why employees can't work unauthorized overtime. By 9:58 the store is pretty much closed up anyway.

But it's not closed. And it has also been said multiple times itt that shit policies aren't a customer problem, they're a company problem. If they'll fire you for staying over because you were helping a customer then fuck it, probably was a shit place to work for anyway.

Coming into the store 2 minutes before closing (at which point you're practically trespassing past closing) is a customer problem.

I don't even know why you guys are trying to argue this, lol. There's literally no excuse for coming into the store at 9:58.

Why can't you let people in the door till 10? That's what open till 10 means.

Because people don't go to the store at 9:58. Only entitled babies, soulless monsters, and sleazy scum do. And stores don't want those things in their store at any time of day.
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Conflict posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

ledbowman posted...

Conflict posted...

voldothegr8 posted...

Conflict posted...

ledbowman posted...

Walking in the door at 9:58 to grab some milk and eggs should not trigger anybody.

It's been said multiple times itt why employees can't work unauthorized overtime. By 9:58 the store is pretty much closed up anyway.

But it's not closed. And it has also been said multiple times itt that shit policies aren't a customer problem, they're a company problem. If they'll fire you for staying over because you were helping a customer then fuck it, probably was a shit place to work for anyway.

Coming into the store 2 minutes before closing (at which point you're practically trespassing past closing) is a customer problem.

I don't even know why you guys are trying to argue this, lol. There's literally no excuse for coming into the store at 9:58.

Why can't you let people in the door till 10? That's what open till 10 means.

Then they can stay all night? I mean, they're inside by 10 why leave?

Might as well just take a nap on one of the couches on display.

Might as well, as long as you're in before 10
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lmao
why not close at 10 am instead of 10 pm if you're closing early anyway??!?!?!
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If somebody comes in at 9:58, they better be ready to be out the door at 10 PM, or they won't be getting any help. I would grab their things if they brought them up after, put it to the side and let them know that we would happily help them, when we open up again in the morning. The sense of entitlement of some people is astounding.
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Sylph posted...

If somebody comes in at 9:58, they better be ready to be out the door at 10 PM, or they won't be getting any help. I would grab their things if they brought them up after, put it to the side and let them know that we would happily help them, when we open up again in the morning. The sense of entitlement of some people is astounding.

are you the manager or shift supervisor
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Sylph posted...

If somebody comes in at 9:58, they better be ready to be out the door at 10 PM, or they won't be getting any help. I would grab their things if they brought them up after, put it to the side and let them know that we would happily help them, when we open up again in the morning. The sense of entitlement of some people is astounding.

That delicious irony in this post rofl
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voldothegr8 posted...

Sylph posted...

If somebody comes in at 9:58, they better be ready to be out the door at 10 PM, or they won't be getting any help. I would grab their things if they brought them up after, put it to the side and let them know that we would happily help them, when we open up again in the morning. The sense of entitlement of some people is astounding.

That delicious irony in this post rofl

i know.
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When I was 15 I worked I started working inna reatuarant in a small town. We closed at 9, we tried to have everything in the kitchen cleaned up by about 8:45 because for the most part, no one would come in for more than a slice of pie by 8:30.

Over the years, we had plenty of customers come in past 8:45 and what I discovered is that most people in my position are lazy, entitled, lack motivation and have really bad attitudes. Yeah, if a customer came in to take up our time, you'd have to stay an extra 20 minutes to feed someone/deal with them. It really wasn't that bad.

But the relentless bitching from my co-workers? Absolutely RIDICULOUS. It was so impressive how bitter and petty people could be because they had to add an extra 15-30 minutes to their shift that was typically 5-6 hours (which also happens to be what most retail people work).

Like, restaurant and retail jobs aren't even real jobs. You don't make a career out of it. The people that work them and are incredibly bitter and spiteful in their work prove to everyone why they are in their position.

Look, any day you get to have a job is s good day, remember that.
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My store is 24/7. IDGAF.
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Imagine if people put the same amount of passion they used arguing about this on gamefaqs into their jobs
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If you come into a store at 9:58 to buy a quick 6 pack or some gum, that's cool.

Coming into a store at 9:58 and conducting yourself like you got there at 9? You're a piece of shit.

It's that simple
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A lot of arguments are that the store is open til 10, so let me in to shop/eat at 9:58.

Ok its 10:01 we're closed now you gotta go.

That doesn't happen though. They get to finish shopping when the store is already closed.
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Conflict posted...

Everything is the employees' fault. Never the customer's.

This topic is full of people who don't want to take responsibility for their own actions lol.

The customer is always right.

The employee is just some worker, they don't matter. If they don't like it, quit!!!!!

I'm the customer so I do whatever I want, what I say goes.
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knuxnole posted...

The customer is always right.

The customer is NOT always right, but the customer is still the customer.
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Balrog0 posted...

are you the manager or shift supervisor

Yes.
knuxnole posted...

The customer is always right.

The employee is just some worker, they don't matter. If they don't like it, quit!!!!!

I'm the customer so I do whatever I want, what I say goes.

That only works if you can back it up. Good luck when your next choice for place to go is 30 minutes out of your way.
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