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Forceful_Dragon 11/03/17 3:24:55 PM #407:	CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. SSJBKK20Vegito posted... That's honestly fucking horrible. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:889695300] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>That's honestly fucking horrible.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 11/03/17 3:30:08 PM #408:	CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:889695569] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 11/03/17 3:37:37 PM #410:	No, there'd just be another excuse for getting upset at the protestors. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:889695996] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>No, there'd just be another excuse for getting upset at the protestors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JonThePenguin 11/03/17 3:52:26 PM #411:	Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. --- JonThePenguin http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=erunion <cite>JonThePenguin posted [p:889696909] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/03/17 3:56:57 PM #412:	Kneeling in a football game should symbolize running out the clock anyway Like you kneel because you just want the national anthem to be over already I'd support that cause. Thing gets played too damn much for sporting events --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:889697193] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>Kneeling in a football game should symbolize running out the clock anyway Like you kneel because you just want the national anthem to be over already I'd support that cause. Thing gets played too damn much for sporting events</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 4:03:08 PM #413:	Lopen posted... Kneeling in a football game should symbolize running out the clock anyway Like you kneel because you just want the national anthem to be over already I'd support that cause. Thing gets played too damn much for sporting events I have always thought that it would best only be played for Playoff games, conference Tournament games, or international competition. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889697593] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Kneeling in a football game should symbolize running out the clock anyway Like you kneel because you just want the national anthem to be over already I'd support that cause. Thing gets played too damn much for sporting events</quote> I have always thought that it would best only be played for Playoff games, conference Tournament games, or international competition.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/03/17 4:06:17 PM #414:	International games are the only time I see it as something that makes sense. Championship games like the Superbowl or World Series, sure, why not, if you really want to, just to bring an extra level of hype to the game. Anything more is excessive to me. If the end result of the kneeling crap is to just stop playing the anthem I would be happy. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:889697788] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>International games are the only time I see it as something that makes sense. Championship games like the Superbowl or World Series, sure, why not, if you really want to, just to bring an extra level of hype to the game. Anything more is excessive to me. If the end result of the kneeling crap is to just stop playing the anthem I would be happy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stripperiffic 11/03/17 4:14:02 PM #415:	Honestly I think it's more disrespectful to the military to use them as a prop in politics. <cite>Stripperiffic posted [p:889698228] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>Honestly I think it's more disrespectful to the military to use them as a prop in politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 11/03/17 4:18:11 PM #416:	JonThePenguin posted... Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:889698476] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>JonThePenguin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 11/03/17 4:20:49 PM #417:	Corrik posted... JonThePenguin posted... Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women. How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it. --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:889698632] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JonThePenguin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women.</quote> How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 11/03/17 4:25:47 PM #418:	https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/926535440722624513 .@ShepNewsTeam: New U.S. gov't report says climate change is real, & driven almost exclusively by human activity https://t.co/Z0r3MBf7Xp https://t.co/IjQmsBQAle If fox news can get on board with global warming, I honestly wouldn't even care if they said it was all obama's fault as long as it led to real solutions. These replies sure are depressing, though. Decades of brainwashing at work. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:889698898] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/926535440722624513 <quote>.@ShepNewsTeam: New U.S. gov't report says climate change is real, & driven almost exclusively by human activity https://t.co/Z0r3MBf7Xp https://t.co/IjQmsBQAle</quote> If fox news can get on board with global warming, I honestly wouldn't even care if they said it was all obama's fault as long as it led to real solutions. These replies sure are depressing, though. Decades of brainwashing at work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 11/03/17 4:30:26 PM #419:	CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. That would explain why somewhat reasonable people I know are saying that the players are kneeling during the anthem to show that they hate America (as in hatred for America is literally the only cause for it). I guess for anyone who refuses to listen, it might as well be. --- Congrats to 2017 Guru champ BKSheikah! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:889699147] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> That would explain why somewhat reasonable people I know are saying that the players are kneeling during the anthem to show that they hate America (as in hatred for America is literally the only cause for it). I guess for anyone who refuses to listen, it might as well be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 4:31:38 PM #420:	Espeon posted... Corrik posted... JonThePenguin posted... Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women. How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it. My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889699233] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JonThePenguin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women.</quote> How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it.</quote> My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 11/03/17 4:41:24 PM #421:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... And polls have been done to show they don't like it. To be fair, polls are very divided. They usually show a range of 35-40% that don't like it, but also often show atleast two-thirds saying they should still be allowed to do it. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:889699803] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>And polls have been done to show they don't like it.</quote> To be fair, polls are very divided. They usually show a range of 35-40% that don't like it, but also often show atleast two-thirds saying they should still be allowed to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurai7 11/03/17 4:44:11 PM #423:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Espeon posted... Corrik posted... JonThePenguin posted... Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women. How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it. My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it. My grandfather and all my friends who served feel the opposite. All of which would be considered liberal. I assume your relatives are conservative. Makes me think it's more a liberal/conservative thing than anything to do with serving the military. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. <cite>Samurai7 posted [p:889699952] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JonThePenguin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women.</quote> How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it.</quote> My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it.</quote> My grandfather and all my friends who served feel the opposite. All of which would be considered liberal. I assume your relatives are conservative. Makes me think it's more a liberal/conservative thing than anything to do with serving the military.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/03/17 4:44:16 PM #424:	I think a lot of people don't like it mostly because political statements shouldn't be introduced into a game like that, and don't actually care what the dudes are kneeling about. And I actually agree with those people. But I think we've already halfway crossed that bridge by playing it so often at sporting events to begin with. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:889699959] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>I think a lot of people don't like it mostly because political statements shouldn't be introduced into a game like that, and don't actually care what the dudes are kneeling about. And I actually agree with those people. But I think we've already halfway crossed that bridge by playing it so often at sporting events to begin with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 4:47:17 PM #425:	Samurai7 posted... SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Espeon posted... Corrik posted... JonThePenguin posted... Corrik posted... CaptainOfCrush posted... I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen. They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country. Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment. He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women. How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it. My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it. My grandfather and all my friends who served feel the opposite. All of which would be considered liberal. I assume your relatives are conservative. Makes me think it's more a liberal/conservative thing than anything to do with serving the military. Most of my cousins are conservative, but not all. My grandfather was a Kentucky House of Representatives for the Democratic Party. My uncle was the same, and is now a Senator for the Democratic Party. Best friend probably libertarian, but he isn't not huge into politics. <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889700124] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurai7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Espeon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JonThePenguin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CaptainOfCrush posted...</cite> <quote>I feel they disagree with the underlying cause of the protests - probably not the idea of protesting. If a player knelt in support of law enforcement/troops/whatever after expressing he felt that law enforcement were being unfairly treated, I'd be shocked if said player was booed (presuming fans knew the backstory). These fans simply don't want to hear about the mistreatment of SOME people, by SOME law enforcement, based on skin color. They have their fingers in their ears and refuse to listen.</quote> They would be if you were going about it that way. They would be told to support us in a different way that isn't disrespectful to those who served and to the country.</quote> Which is exactly where the whole kneeling thing started - Kaepernick was originally sitting as his protest but after talking with a veteran they came up with kneeling as a respectful way of expressing the same sentiment.</quote> He used the wrong veteran to get an idea from. Like, if I asked one woman how to treat woman, I could get an answer that is not acceptable by 90% of women.</quote> How many ACTUAL veterans find it offensive though? I know FFD has said its no big deal. From my perspective, the whole argument feels like what conservatives would call virtue signaling and political correctness if liberals were doing it.</quote> My family (grandfather. Uncle, and cousins in Navy) and my best friend (Army) all find it horrible. Granted, that is a small sample size, but so is his one random person Colin talked too. And polls have been done to show they don't like it.</quote> My grandfather and all my friends who served feel the opposite. All of which would be considered liberal. I assume your relatives are conservative. Makes me think it's more a liberal/conservative thing than anything to do with serving the military.</quote> Most of my cousins are conservative, but not all. My grandfather was a Kentucky House of Representatives for the Democratic Party. My uncle was the same, and is now a Senator for the Democratic Party. Best friend probably libertarian, but he isn't not huge into politics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 4:49:09 PM #426:	HashtagSEP posted... SSJBKK20Vegito posted... And polls have been done to show they don't like it. To be fair, polls are very divided. They usually show a range of 35-40% that don't like it, but also often show atleast two-thirds saying they should still be allowed to do it. I mean... I HATE it myself, but as long as then NFL doesn't nut up they should be allowed to do it. This isn't China... <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889700223] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>HashtagSEP posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>And polls have been done to show they don't like it.</quote> To be fair, polls are very divided. They usually show a range of 35-40% that don't like it, but also often show atleast two-thirds saying they should still be allowed to do it.</quote> I mean... I HATE it myself, but as long as then NFL doesn't nut up they should be allowed to do it. This isn't China...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega Mana 11/03/17 4:49:18 PM #427:	Lopen posted... I think a lot of people don't like it mostly because political statements shouldn't be introduced into a game like that, and don't actually care what the dudes are kneeling about. And I actually agree with those people. But I think we've already halfway crossed that bridge by playing it so often at sporting events to begin with. --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega Mana posted [p:889700232] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>I think a lot of people don't like it mostly because political statements shouldn't be introduced into a game like that, and don't actually care what the dudes are kneeling about. And I actually agree with those people. But I think we've already halfway crossed that bridge by playing it so often at sporting events to begin with.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 11/03/17 4:50:14 PM #428:	The vast majority of the military would find it offensive prior. Just as they did during Vietnam. However, now that it is politicized veterans and active duty just take a stance on where their politics are for the most part. The new Orleans honored veteran did not specifically say the saints were why he wouldn't come. He said he was upset with how the NFL handled it and he never wanted to enter a NFL stadium or support the NFL again because of it. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:889700274] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>The vast majority of the military would find it offensive prior. Just as they did during Vietnam. However, now that it is politicized veterans and active duty just take a stance on where their politics are for the most part. The new Orleans honored veteran did not specifically say the saints were why he wouldn't come. He said he was upset with how the NFL handled it and he never wanted to enter a NFL stadium or support the NFL again because of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eddv 11/03/17 5:48:39 PM #429:	Lopen posted... Kneeling in a football game should symbolize running out the clock anyway Like you kneel because you just want the national anthem to be over already I'd support that cause. Thing gets played too damn much for sporting events Oh my god. Could you imagine the outrage. "The entire Buffalo Bills roster kneeled today - they said they were running out the clock on the anthem which they find tiresome and overdone" --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg <cite>Eddv posted [p:889703624] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Kneeling in a football game should symbolize running out the clock anyway Like you kneel because you just want the national anthem to be over already I'd support that cause. Thing gets played too damn much for sporting events</quote> Oh my god. Could you imagine the outrage. "The entire Buffalo Bills roster kneeled today - they said they were running out the clock on the anthem which they find tiresome and overdone"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 11/03/17 5:53:19 PM #430:	That's a good idea. That way, in order to be good patriots, the opposing team has to blow a timeout to stop the clock. --- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny <cite>Panthera posted [p:889703916] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>That's a good idea. That way, in order to be good patriots, the opposing team has to blow a timeout to stop the clock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 11/03/17 5:57:53 PM #431:	Man, have you guys never played football or something? Kneeling is generally when you have a serious injury. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:889704191] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>Man, have you guys never played football or something? Kneeling is generally when you have a serious injury.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 11/03/17 7:36:08 PM #432:	TheRock1525 posted... Man, have you guys never played football or something? Kneeling is generally when you have a serious injury. Bingo. In that way, it actually makes kneeling the best way to protest. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:889709647] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Man, have you guys never played football or something? Kneeling is generally when you have a serious injury.</quote> Bingo. In that way, it actually makes kneeling the best way to protest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/03/17 7:59:23 PM #433:	I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:889710805] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/03/17 8:00:51 PM #434:	even then court not respecting the air bud clause --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:889710873] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>even then court not respecting the air bud clause</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 11/03/17 8:02:21 PM #435:	but, hypothetically, if a dog was a lawyer that dog could represent him so he is still asking for a lawyer (????) that is so crazy --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:889710933] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>but, hypothetically, if a dog was a lawyer that dog could represent him so he is still asking for a lawyer (????) that is so crazy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/03/17 8:02:35 PM #436:	throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:889710948] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 8:13:20 PM #437:	Suprak the Stud posted... throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat What's the matter? You afraid your client will get beat by a dog? PUT HIM ON THE STAND! <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889711543] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat</quote> What's the matter? You afraid your client will get beat by a dog? PUT HIM ON THE STAND!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/03/17 8:20:11 PM #438:	Imagine how confused those cops would be if he had asked for mylawyer. "He didn't ask for a lawyer. He asked for mylawyer, whatever that is." --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." <cite>Ashethan posted [p:889711882] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>Imagine how confused those cops would be if he had asked for mylawyer. "He didn't ask for a lawyer. He asked for mylawyer, whatever that is."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 11/03/17 8:23:25 PM #439:	at least if they ask for a bird lawyer we can get charlie kelly on the job --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:889712042] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>at least if they ask for a bird lawyer we can get charlie kelly on the job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/03/17 8:43:41 PM #440:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Suprak the Stud posted... throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat What's the matter? You afraid your client will get beat by a dog? PUT HIM ON THE STAND! Judge (to dog): And how would you say the officer in question treated your client? Dog: (dramatic pause) Ruff. courtroom explodes in noise, judge repeatedly bangs gavel to no avail --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:889713112] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat</quote> What's the matter? You afraid your client will get beat by a dog? PUT HIM ON THE STAND!</quote> Judge (to dog): And how would you say the officer in question treated your client? Dog: (dramatic pause) Ruff. courtroom explodes in noise, judge repeatedly bangs gavel to no avail</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inviso 11/03/17 8:47:24 PM #441:	Suprak the Stud posted... SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Suprak the Stud posted... throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat What's the matter? You afraid your client will get beat by a dog? PUT HIM ON THE STAND! Judge (to dog): And how would you say the officer in question treated your client? Dog: (dramatic paws) Ruff. courtroom explodes in noise, judge repeatedly bangs gavel to no avail FTFY --- Touch fuzzy. Get fuzzier. Inviso <cite>Inviso posted [p:889713303] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>throws US constitution at judge "Show me in your precious rules where it says dogs can't be lawyers." judge begins to sweat</quote> What's the matter? You afraid your client will get beat by a dog? PUT HIM ON THE STAND!</quote> Judge (to dog): And how would you say the officer in question treated your client? Dog: (dramatic paws) Ruff. courtroom explodes in noise, judge repeatedly bangs gavel to no avail</quote> FTFY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/03/17 8:48:15 PM #442:	FFDragon posted... at least if they ask for a bird lawyer we can get charlie kelly on the job Um he's an expert in bird law, not an actual bird lawyer. ...although maybe if he wore his Birds of War costume he could be both. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:889713359] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>FFDragon posted...</cite> <quote>at least if they ask for a bird lawyer we can get charlie kelly on the job</quote> Um he's an expert in bird law, not an actual bird lawyer. ...although maybe if he wore his Birds of War costume he could be both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LapisLazuli 11/03/17 8:51:28 PM #443:	Suprak the Stud posted... I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel. So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse? --- H E Y W A S S H I L E T S E N J O Y K A G A W A L I F E <cite>LapisLazuli posted [p:889713551] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel.</quote> So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 11/03/17 8:52:22 PM #444:	it's pretty obviously the former, though the two aren't mutually exclusive i guess --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:889713589] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>it's pretty obviously the former, though the two aren't mutually exclusive i guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/03/17 8:55:07 PM #445:	Corrik posted... The vast majority of the military would find it offensive prior. Theres no way this is true. I have diehard conservative military friends who are more offended that people are telling them they should be offended by it. --- Phantom Dust. <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:889713745] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>The vast majority of the military would find it offensive prior. </quote> Theres no way this is true. I have diehard conservative military friends who are more offended that people are telling them they should be offended by it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/03/17 8:57:12 PM #446:	You were alive during Vietnam? Had no idea you were that old dude. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:889713859] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>You were alive during Vietnam? Had no idea you were that old dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/03/17 9:01:19 PM #447:	LapisLazuli posted... Suprak the Stud posted... I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel. So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse? I mean, to be fair, he's convicted of raping kids, so it's hard to feel bad for him --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:889714103] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel.</quote> So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse?</quote> I mean, to be fair, he's convicted of raping kids, so it's hard to feel bad for him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 9:03:44 PM #448:	LapisLazuli posted... Suprak the Stud posted... I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel. So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse? Outright racism Is worse than stupidity, right? <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889714231] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel.</quote> So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse?</quote> Outright racism Is worse than stupidity, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/03/17 9:04:03 PM #449:	Like, Iunno He admitted to doing it afterwards This feels more like... Good on them for being clever and making the admission stick, over "That poor black man is being taken advantage of." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:889714246] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>Like, Iunno He admitted to doing it afterwards This feels more like... Good on them for being clever and making the admission stick, over "That poor black man is being taken advantage of."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/03/17 9:05:02 PM #450:	It could be that they're looking for another excuse to throw a suspected rapist in jail but sure let's make it about race --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:889714318] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>It could be that they're looking for another excuse to throw a suspected rapist in jail but sure let's make it about race</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJBKK20Vegito 11/03/17 9:05:03 PM #451:	StealThisSheen posted... LapisLazuli posted... Suprak the Stud posted... I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel. So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse? I mean, to be fair, he's convicted of raping kids, so it's hard to feel bad for him This is true... but it's also an incredibly slippery slope to go down <cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted [p:889714320] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LapisLazuli posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>I had to check this like five times to make sure this wasn't a satirical article. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/ Man says "give me a lawyer, dog". Louisiana Supreme Court says he was asking for a "lawyer dog" and thus wasn't invoking his right to counsel.</quote> So either they're looking for a loophole to make it easier to throw another black man in jail, or they're actually that fucking stupid. Which is worse?</quote> I mean, to be fair, he's convicted of raping kids, so it's hard to feel bad for him</quote> This is true... but it's also an incredibly slippery slope to go down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/03/17 9:07:08 PM #452:	SSJBKK20Vegito posted... This is true... but it's also an incredibly slippery slope to go down It is, but only as far as... If you're too dumb to repeatedly ask for a lawyer and make it clear you're doing so, then... Sure, you may slip down said slope. In this specific case, it's not about race. It's about keeping an admission of rape from getting thrown out. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:889714450] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>This is true... but it's also an incredibly slippery slope to go down</quote> It is, but only as far as... If you're too dumb to repeatedly ask for a lawyer and make it clear you're doing so, then... Sure, you may slip down said slope. In this specific case, it's not about race. It's about keeping an admission of rape from getting thrown out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/03/17 9:13:40 PM #453:	StealThisSheen posted... SSJBKK20Vegito posted... This is true... but it's also an incredibly slippery slope to go down It is, but only as far as... If you're too dumb to repeatedly ask for a lawyer and make it clear you're doing so, then... Sure, you may slip down said slope. In this specific case, it's not about race. It's about keeping an admission of rape from getting thrown out. At what point in the process do we decide that someone no longer has their constitutionally guaranteed rights? When the police officer decides they are a suspect? When he asked for a lawyer, the police had to stop and provide him with a lawyer. This has gone to the Supreme Court several times and they are all in agreement with each other. If he did it, he deserves to pay for the terrible things he's done. But the way they went about this throw doubt on the validity of their process. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:889714837] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SSJBKK20Vegito posted...</cite> <quote>This is true... but it's also an incredibly slippery slope to go down</quote> It is, but only as far as... If you're too dumb to repeatedly ask for a lawyer and make it clear you're doing so, then... Sure, you may slip down said slope. In this specific case, it's not about race. It's about keeping an admission of rape from getting thrown out.</quote> At what point in the process do we decide that someone no longer has their constitutionally guaranteed rights? When the police officer decides they are a suspect? When he asked for a lawyer, the police had to stop and provide him with a lawyer. This has gone to the Supreme Court several times and they are all in agreement with each other. If he did it, he deserves to pay for the terrible things he's done. But the way they went about this throw doubt on the validity of their process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/03/17 9:18:00 PM #454:	To be fair I do think it was reckless of them to do that But I just think it's kinda hilarious that the natural reaction is OMG RACISM over "they really really wanted to get a rapist dead to rights before the lawyers stepped in" Like I gotta wonder at what point do people not naturally gravitate towards the racism element. Like say you had... I don't know... a black guy who blew up a building full of school children, and a cop in a moment of passion shoots him in the head as he's clearly surrendering. Do we say "wow that cop was so racist he couldn't restrain himself from shooting a black man?" then? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:889715076] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>To be fair I do think it was reckless of them to do that But I just think it's kinda hilarious that the natural reaction is OMG RACISM over "they really really wanted to get a rapist dead to rights before the lawyers stepped in" Like I gotta wonder at what point do people not naturally gravitate towards the racism element. Like say you had... I don't know... a black guy who blew up a building full of school children, and a cop in a moment of passion shoots him in the head as he's clearly surrendering. Do we say "wow that cop was so racist he couldn't restrain himself from shooting a black man?" then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 11/03/17 9:18:32 PM #455:	Suprak the Stud posted... At what point in the process do we decide that someone no longer has their constitutionally guaranteed rights? When the police officer decides they are a suspect? I'd say when they can't bring themselves to clearly ask for a lawyer! Dumb criminals screwing themselves out of rights doesn't seem like an issue to me --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:889715107] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote><cite>Suprak the Stud posted...</cite> <quote>At what point in the process do we decide that someone no longer has their constitutionally guaranteed rights? When the police officer decides they are a suspect?</quote> I'd say when they can't bring themselves to clearly ask for a lawyer! Dumb criminals screwing themselves out of rights doesn't seem like an issue to me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/03/17 9:19:20 PM #456:	It's a dangerous road to go down to say "Well he's a rapist! So we should ignore his constitutional rights." Because at what point do you know he's a rapist? Police need to do things the right way--and then confessions won't be thrown out. Because then the confessions will be legitimate, and there won't be any doubt that a suspect was coerced into confessing. --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." <cite>Ashethan posted [p:889715152] in Politics C... [t:75941246]...</cite> <quote>It's a dangerous road to go down to say "Well he's a rapist! So we should ignore his constitutional rights." Because at what point do you know he's a rapist? Police need to do things the right way--and then confessions won't be thrown out. Because then the confessions will be legitimate, and there won't be any doubt that a suspect was coerced into confessing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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