Current Events > Trump Administration Set to Roll Back Birth Control Mandate

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VipaGTS posted...

Why are the conservatrolls on here such pathetic people?

It's an act they put on because they know that's what gets reactions from people
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More importantly, why do people still respond to conservatrolls?
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BLAKUboy posted...

More importantly, why do people still respond to conservatrolls?

It's fun
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So what's the problem? My insurance doesn't cover condoms so why should it cover birth control?

Are we just going to keep throwing free shit at women that's not a necessity?
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HypnoCoosh posted...

It just cracks me up you people don't understand it's not the governments job to tell insurance companies what they can and can't offer in their packages.

Let the free market do it's job.

Also any real job has tiers of insurance so if you want better insurance you pay for it. Also you always have the option to opt out of insurance and pay your penalty thanks to obama.

If insurance companies lose enough business because their plan sucks they will be forced to make a better plan.

It's not the governments job to make insurance companies provide birth control.

Get over it. YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Come on since you guys are so smart.

What's your position? Defend it.
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this is getting sad
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guys, please do not judge all Conservatives based on Hypno's behavior. that's just as unfair as people judging "the left" because of a few radical SJWs.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

My insurance doesn't cover condoms so why should it cover birth control?

insurance typically only covers prescription drugs, which BC qualifies as.
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No surprise.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

My insurance doesn't cover condoms so why should it cover birth control?

insurance typically only covers prescription drugs, which BC qualifies as.

Meh i still think it's dumb for insurance companies to get involved in a woman's sex life by offering them BC, but it does serve other purposes as well so i guess it's ok.
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

My insurance doesn't cover condoms so why should it cover birth control?

insurance typically only covers prescription drugs, which BC qualifies as.

Meh i still think it's dumb for insurance companies to get involved in a woman's sex life by offering them BC, but it does serve other purposes as well so i guess it's ok.

You know birth control does more than just prevent babies, right?
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

My insurance doesn't cover condoms so why should it cover birth control?

insurance typically only covers prescription drugs, which BC qualifies as.

Meh i still think it's dumb for insurance companies to get involved in a woman's sex life by offering them BC, but it does serve other purposes as well so i guess it's ok.

forcing women to go to a different insurance company instead of through work just to get birth control is getting more involved with women's sex lives than just letting it be covered
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i wish republicans didnt hate women so much
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*Strongly against the idea of abortions. Restricts birth control options*

Slow clap.

ArchiePeck posted...

*Strongly against the idea of abortions. Restricts birth control options*

Slow clap.

Lol right

ArchiePeck posted...

Strongly against the idea of abortions. Restricts birth control options

No one is restring the options.

It's all about money.

By money I mean insurance companies profits. This drive everything.
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Axiom posted...

ArchiePeck posted...

*Strongly against the idea of abortions. Restricts birth control options*

Slow clap.

Lol right

Came in here to say something similar.

Fucking ayyy lmao.
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How many sluts did Trump bareback in the 80s that were on BC so he wouldn't have pay for kids?
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

i wish republicans didnt hate women so much

Many of them are weak men with small, impotent penises. Of course they hate women and anyone having sex.

If nothing else I'm really interested to see how this insane experiment of taking every societal pearl of wisdom learned in the past century and spitting it out and going in exactly the opposite direction is going to work out for America.
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VipaGTS posted...

Why are the conservatrolls on here such pathetic people?

Small peens
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CADE FOSTER posted...

VipaGTS posted...

Why are the conservatrolls on here such pathetic people?

Small peens

nuh uh!
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Why should employers be required to include birth control in their health insurance coverage?
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Why should employers be required to include birth control in their health insurance coverage?

Why not? Do you know the other benefits of Birth Control for women aside from pregnancy prevention?
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many places take issue when a female employee has to go on pregnancy leave. places like this should consider birth control coverage if they want to minimize that.

but counter productivity seems to be the theme of 2017. dissonance of 2016 ushered that in, lol.
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VipaGTS posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Why should employers be required to include birth control in their health insurance coverage?

Why not? Do you know the other benefits of Birth Control for women aside from pregnancy prevention?

Yes. Now why is anyone entitled to it such that the government should force companies/insurance to provide it?
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Why should employers be required to include birth control in their health insurance coverage?

People don't have to go on pregnancy leave if they aren't getting pregnant. Also, birth control has other uses besides prevention. "But muh holy book says no sex outside of marriage or for reasons besides procreation!" Well your business doesn't have fucking religious beliefs.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

VipaGTS posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Why should employers be required to include birth control in their health insurance coverage?

Why not? Do you know the other benefits of Birth Control for women aside from pregnancy prevention?

Yes. Now why is anyone entitled to it such that the government should force companies/insurance to provide it?

Are you opposed to companies providing insurance coverage at all? If you are going to give people health insurance, then give them fucking health insurance.
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pinky0926 posted...

If nothing else I'm really interested to see how this insane experiment of taking every societal pearl of wisdom learned in the past century and spitting it out and going in exactly the opposite direction is going to work out for America.

At least we'll make America fundamental Christian again!
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hockeybub89 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

VipaGTS posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Why should employers be required to include birth control in their health insurance coverage?

Why not? Do you know the other benefits of Birth Control for women aside from pregnancy prevention?

Yes. Now why is anyone entitled to it such that the government should force companies/insurance to provide it?

Are you opposed to companies providing insurance coverage at all? If you are going to give people health insurance, then give them fucking health insurance.

No. I'm asking why it's right to use the government to require companies to cover certain things in their insurance. No issue at all with companies providing insurance (and specifically insurance that covers birth control), I'm against them being forced to do so.
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Less costs for your employer is good.

Under what basis shouldnt this medication be covered by insurance? You keep saying required. Its medication. It does more than prevent babies. You act like its big government forcing them to do it!....no...the big government is using their power to allow to businesses not to do it under some bs religious reasons.
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So this is one of the few things I don't see much of an issue with, but if I'm missing anything/incorrect anywhere, please let me know.

I'm in favor of providing aid to women in the area of feminine hygiene products, as that's something that cannot be controlled and I can see how that can be seen as an unfair financial burden to women.

But birth control is a different story. I do think insurance companies should differentiate between a doctor prescribing it for a health-related reason versus simply contraception, but I don't see why female contraception should be mandated to be covered. I have to buy condoms when I want them (women can buy them too!), what makes birth control any different?

Again, if there's anything I'm misunderstanding, please inform me.

What makes birth control any different

You said it yourself. There are a number of things it can do. Its prescribed for other medical reasons. Its also not available at Wal Mart over the counter like Condoms are. The condom comparison needs to stop lol. If you want to use condoms as a reason why then I can flip that argument and say shes getting birth control...it better benefits both parties involved in intercourse.
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some people are allergic to latex.
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I wonder how many people opposed to birth control being covered are okay with viagra being covered for some of these government positions.
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KStateKing17 posted...

I wonder how many people opposed to birth control being covered are okay with viagra being covered for some of these government positions.

viagra and cialis are over the counter now no longer need prescription i dont think
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Of all the things he's done (done, not said), this is by far the dumbest. There's SO MUCH evidence that easy access to birth control has significant positive effects on society, including reduction in crime. Hopefully, since it only eases the restrictions on opting-out and doesn't completely remove it from healthcare, most companies will stay the sensible path and keep offering it.
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I wonder how many people trying to weigh in on other people's sex life are virgins.
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s0nicfan posted...

Of all the things he's done (done, not said), this is by far the dumbest. There's SO MUCH evidence that easy access to birth control has significant positive effects on society, including reduction in crime. Hopefully, since it only eases the restrictions on opting-out and doesn't completely remove it from healthcare, most companies will stay the sensible path and keep offering it.

jails are full of people who were just trying to feed their kids, unfortunately.
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CADE FOSTER posted...

KStateKing17 posted...

I wonder how many people opposed to birth control being covered are okay with viagra being covered for some of these government positions.

viagra and cialis are over the counter now no longer need prescription i dont think

That I'm not sure of, but I do know there are still erectile dysfunction meds that are still covered by some insurance.
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America is a joke lately
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VipaGTS posted...

What makes birth control any different

You said it yourself. There are a number of things it can do. Its prescribed for other medical reasons. Its also not available at Wal Mart over the counter like Condoms are. The condom comparison needs to stop lol. If you want to use condoms as a reason why then I can flip that argument and say shes getting birth control...it better benefits both parties involved in intercourse.

I also said that I would like to see insurance companies make a distinction between it being prescribed for medical reasons versus solely contraception. Unfortunately, that's not the case right now, and the lion's share of women getting birth control are getting it for the sake of contraception. I wouldn't say I'm against having insurance companies forced to include birth control necessarily, but I'm also not in favor of it.

VipaGTS posted...

What makes birth control any different

You said it yourself. There are a number of things it can do. Its prescribed for other medical reasons. Its also not available at Wal Mart over the counter like Condoms are. The condom comparison needs to stop lol. If you want to use condoms as a reason why then I can flip that argument and say shes getting birth control...it better benefits both parties involved in intercourse.

It should be over the counter, I'm completely in favor of that.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

VipaGTS posted...

What makes birth control any different

You said it yourself. There are a number of things it can do. Its prescribed for other medical reasons. Its also not available at Wal Mart over the counter like Condoms are. The condom comparison needs to stop lol. If you want to use condoms as a reason why then I can flip that argument and say shes getting birth control...it better benefits both parties involved in intercourse.

It should be over the counter, I'm completely in favor of that.

I'd be cool with this.

Yay more unwanted babies for poor families!

Woo
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CADE FOSTER posted...

KStateKing17 posted...

I wonder how many people opposed to birth control being covered are okay with viagra being covered for some of these government positions.

viagra and cialis are over the counter now no longer need prescription i dont think

Wrong. There are generics now, but they are still prescription drugs.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Yay more unwanted babies for poor families!

Woo

I can't handle so much winning.
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Also for the record, everyone complaining about not being able to get condoms with insurance...places like planned parenthood do provide males with condoms for free...Its not a medication so they can just give them out....but in addition to this the GOP is also trying to cut funding there so....
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