Board 8 > MWC ranks the top 50 hardest Kingdom Hearts bosses (spoilers, duh)

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WickIebee
09/16/17 12:13:55 AM
#56:


Now that you reminded me I forgot most of the bosses, there are two more from Days that I'll be curious if they place. Don't spoil me of course, I'll get to see in time.

Xion herself, and Dustflier. Also hated Powered Armor but I think if you've played enough KH he's not that hard to dodge. Can't remember if anyone else was really that hard.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 12:15:19 AM
#57:


WickIebee posted...
Now that you reminded me I forgot most of the bosses, there are two more from Days that I'll be curious if they place. Don't spoil me of course, I'll get to see in time.

Xion herself, and Dustflier. Also hated Powered Armor but I think if you've played enough KH he's not that hard to dodge. Can't remember if anyone else was really that hard.


You beat Dustflier?

On accident?

How do you accidentally beat a Super Boss?
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WickIebee
09/16/17 12:18:41 AM
#58:


EmDubyaSee posted...
WickIebee posted...
Now that you reminded me I forgot most of the bosses, there are two more from Days that I'll be curious if they place. Don't spoil me of course, I'll get to see in time.

Xion herself, and Dustflier. Also hated Powered Armor but I think if you've played enough KH he's not that hard to dodge. Can't remember if anyone else was really that hard.


You beat Dustflier?

On accident?

How do you accidentally beat a Super Boss?


Ah, so he is the Super Boss. I think there was a point where I thought I was supposed to beat him for the quest... so I just kept going. Don't remember what I did.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 12:24:48 AM
#59:


WickIebee posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
WickIebee posted...
Now that you reminded me I forgot most of the bosses, there are two more from Days that I'll be curious if they place. Don't spoil me of course, I'll get to see in time.

Xion herself, and Dustflier. Also hated Powered Armor but I think if you've played enough KH he's not that hard to dodge. Can't remember if anyone else was really that hard.


You beat Dustflier?

On accident?

How do you accidentally beat a Super Boss?


Ah, so he is the Super Boss. I think there was a point where I thought I was supposed to beat him for the quest... so I just kept going. Don't remember what I did.



So here is what happens.

It's like the fourth to last mission I belive. And I think it's the last normal mission.

You are supposed to exterminate either 5 or 6 mega heartless.

Once you beat all 5 or 6th, it tells you if a 6th or 7th Heartless. It warns you it's really powerful. They don't really spell out for you that you are actually done. That you don't have to fight Dust Flier. I also don't think it tells you where it is, so you may accidentally stumble on him too. At which case here comes death.
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WickIebee
09/16/17 12:29:42 AM
#60:


Yeah, I was reading up. I can remember fighting him, and I swear that even though I was done with the mission I really wanted to beat him.

Probably took me like a billion tries, but I'm pretty sure I won at some point. Maybe in mission mode at some point.

He's actually in the heart of town and will only appear after you've finished the quest, but it doesn't spell out for you that you're done like you said. You just find him while trying to get back to the exit.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 12:36:21 AM
#61:


WickIebee posted...
Yeah, I was reading up. I can remember fighting him, and I swear that even though I was done with the mission I really wanted to beat him.

Probably took me like a billion tries, but I'm pretty sure I won at some point. Maybe in mission mode at some point.

He's actually in the heart of town and will only appear after you've finished the quest, but it doesn't spell out for you that you're done like you said. You just find him while trying to get back to the exit.



Well. Congrats on beating him. And while I'd like to avoid spoilers for that. As I Said at the start, all 30 Super Bosses are in the top 50. So you can probably extrapolate whether or not Dustflier is here from that. Sorry. I won't answer on Xion howver.
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WickIebee
09/16/17 1:33:10 AM
#62:


Thank you for not answering on Xion, I realized Dustflier would be in when obviously it was revealed he was a Super Boss, shall be interesting to see how high since if I could magically beat him... it serves a little well on other games (if I had chances to play them).
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Tsunbiribiri
09/16/17 1:52:21 AM
#63:


THAT'S the Griffon lookalike ****er I as thinking of
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xp1337
09/16/17 5:20:18 AM
#64:


Wasn't 358/2 overtuned on DEF/HP because they were silly and balanced it around multiplayer (Mission Mode) or something?
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 10:27:37 AM
#65:


Tsunbiribiri posted...
THAT'S the Griffon lookalike ****er I as thinking of



Oh. I thought you meant ruler of the Skies. Dustflier is a Wyvern. A type of Dragon.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 10:28:39 AM
#66:


xp1337 posted...
Wasn't 358/2 overtuned on DEF/HP because they were silly and balanced it around multiplayer (Mission Mode) or something?


Yes. Which is great. It's it hard to make it so single player main story isn't like that though.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 10:45:47 AM
#67:


#47.

Data Data Riku. (Avatar, Coded)

Our first Super Boss. And one that most KH fans don't even know exists.

He is fricking IMPOSSIBLE to get to. You need level 100 Avatar to be able too access him. And once you get there, he is utter cake. I really thought of leaning him off the list, I just
Couldn't find anything on the honorable mentions list to put him higher.

Yeah. Did I mention Riku was fricken weird. Easily the easiest Super Boss, quite possibly the easiest Final boss... but oh good god his normal fights hate you and eveything ever involved with you...

He is one of the hardest (normal) fights in the game, but it's Coded, and even with minimum upgraded stats from game end you can beat this guy in seriously about a minute. Your Keyblade just slashes life from him.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 12:03:16 PM
#68:


#46: Armored Ventus Nightmare (Dream Drop DISTANCE)

"This abyss?
Am I in Sora's dream?"

The first boss both from Dream Drop Distance, and also the first ranked in the absurd hell that is Riku's final boss gauntlet from that game.

This is the hardest end to any game I've ever played. Bar none.

There have been harder final levels, there have been much much harder games, there have been harder individual bosses. But nothing like this combined.

This would be like fighting Yunalesca, Seymour Natus, Barthandalus (1) for some absurd reason Omega Weapon as the fourth, and then ending with Material Keeper.... in a normal game. Not post game.

Why is this so hard? A couple reasons really. They are final bosses and they all have really powerful hard to dodge attacks and tricks, but the real reason has to do with DDD itself.

Days everyone had a ton of HP. DDD no one flinches and when you combo their revenge values seem to be RNG. I'll use data Laxaeus as an example. If he is ar 99,999 and I keep hitting him I have an idea when his RV is going to activate. And if I keep hitting him he'll take me to 1 HP. (Speed runners actually know exactly when it will activate, but I'm fine just having a general guess of an idea)

In DDD, (if you can even link them at all ever) they may respond on the third hit of the first chain, or the second hit of the fourth chain... you have no idea. That is especially hard in this gauntlet when they are already powerful as hell and you don't get many chances to attack.

And why did I say if you can chain them in the first place. Cause it's really not easy to cause someone to
Flinch in DDD. You wanna know why so many people think Balloonra is tier 0? (I mean, it's awesome anyway, but even stronger than it would be normally) Because it causes flinch to happen a lot of times, and works on many enemies. We'll talk more about balloon later obviously.

As for this Boss itself. It's harder than the weakest Super Boss. Ventus is so absurdly fast. Thankfully even though he is armor, he doesn't have that much HP. So just go all out at the start and see who is the better fighter.

This is the final fight for the Main Character....

Yes, Riku is so obviously the main character in this game, not Sora. Sora is a plot device. Riku gets all the biggest moments, the final boss chain, ALL of the character progression, and most of the best moves, saves the damsel in distress (Sora) and becomes only the Second Active "living" Master.

This guy is a nuisance, and would probably be ranked about 10 spots higher if I could remotely be objective about him. But because of what he follows, I can't. This fight probably took me 4-5 times. Which seems like a bit low number. But the battle before I would have gotten up and danced and praised if it only took 4-5. And for that Ventus kinda gets punished by association. Sorry dude.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 2:13:38 PM
#69:


# 45: Kurt Ziza

Easily the easiest standard Super Boss in the series.

(Coded was a cell phone game, and therefore cause of its limited gameplay type, I don't really consider them standard)


So, for starters if you summon Tinkerbell at the very start of this battle, you pretty much already won.

If you don't want to for whatever reason, all you have to do is survive during his magic block phase. Which guess what, all he has during that is incredibly telegraphed and easy to dodge physical moves. Break his hands, unlock magic, heal if needed, and unleash storms of thunder on him. Rinse repeat. Done.
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pjbasis
09/16/17 2:15:15 PM
#70:


One of the coolest superbosses still.

Him and Phantom, I love the random Heartless superboss. Though they were indeed easy.
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 2:26:11 PM
#71:


pjbasis posted...
One of the coolest superbosses still.

Him and Phantom, I love the random Heartless superboss. Though they were indeed easy.



Oh yeah. He's cool as shit.

He is Kingdom Hearts version of the WEAPON (Ultima, Omega, etc.) from Final Fantasy VII, VIII and X.

6 hands, fast, cool set up to the battle. Very fun fight. He's just an easy fight
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 6:41:06 PM
#72:


Bump
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EmDubyaSee
09/16/17 11:21:11 PM
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Bump
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Pram_the_Oracle
09/16/17 11:58:43 PM
#74:


EmDubyaSee posted...
Tsunbiribiri posted...
THAT'S the Griffon lookalike ****er I as thinking of



Oh. I thought you meant ruler of the Skies. Dustflier is a Wyvern. A type of Dragon.


My bad

EmDubyaSee posted...
#47.

Data Data Riku. (Avatar, Coded)

Our first Super Boss. And one that most KH fans don't even know exists.

He is fricking IMPOSSIBLE to get to. You need level 100 Avatar to be able too access him. And once you get there, he is utter cake. I really thought of leaning him off the list, I just
Couldn't find anything on the honorable mentions list to put him higher.

Yeah. Did I mention Riku was fricken weird. Easily the easiest Super Boss, quite possibly the easiest Final boss... but oh good god his normal fights hate you and eveything ever involved with you...

He is one of the hardest (normal) fights in the game, but it's Coded, and even with minimum upgraded stats from game end you can beat this guy in seriously about a minute. Your Keyblade just slashes life from him.


Huh

I don't remember this one at all

Then again, I don't remember much of Coded at all.
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Pram_the_Oracle
09/17/17 12:00:11 AM
#75:


Also it's kind of ****ing amazing that the winner of the "name a boss" contest has like the perfect name or a superboss

Kurt

****ing

Zisa

Man can you imagine if anyone else won the contest.
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EmDubyaSee
09/17/17 1:30:34 AM
#76:


Pram_the_Oracle posted...
Also it's kind of ****ing amazing that the winner of the "name a boss" contest has like the perfect name or a superboss

Kurt

****ing

Zisa

Man can you imagine if anyone else won the contest.


I've thought of that plenty.


Like how dumb Michael Clark would be for a Super Boss....


But Kurt God Damn Zisa? Nah man.
No fucking way
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EmDubyaSee
09/17/17 1:35:02 AM
#77:


Pram_the_Oracle posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
Tsunbiribiri posted...
THAT'S the Griffon lookalike ****er I as thinking of



Oh. I thought you meant ruler of the Skies. Dustflier is a Wyvern. A type of Dragon.


My bad

EmDubyaSee posted...
#47.

Data Data Riku. (Avatar, Coded)

Our first Super Boss. And one that most KH fans don't even know exists.

He is fricking IMPOSSIBLE to get to. You need level 100 Avatar to be able too access him. And once you get there, he is utter cake. I really thought of leaning him off the list, I just
Couldn't find anything on the honorable mentions list to put him higher.

Yeah. Did I mention Riku was fricken weird. Easily the easiest Super Boss, quite possibly the easiest Final boss... but oh good god his normal fights hate you and eveything ever involved with you...

He is one of the hardest (normal) fights in the game, but it's Coded, and even with minimum upgraded stats from game end you can beat this guy in seriously about a minute. Your Keyblade just slashes life from him.


Huh

I don't remember this one at all

Then again, I don't remember much of Coded at all.



That's because maybe 1 out of every 200 KH fans (and even that seems low.....) have ever fought him. As of four months ago there was still just one video of him on YouTube.... The game has now been out for 8 years, and many people still doubt he even exists. The fucker is simply put beyond any reasonable level of work and annoyance to get to. Especially when you get nothing and he is virtually identical to another Super Boss in Coded.
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RyoCaliente
09/17/17 5:06:32 AM
#78:


Please make use of some formatting, like bolding number and boss name to make it easy to pick out the ratings.
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09/19/17 1:35:44 PM
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Lopen
09/19/17 1:40:28 PM
#80:


I think I would've probably rated Destiny Islands Riku over a lot of this list. Like Kurt Ziza.

Probably not entirely fair as you face him the first time when you're fresh faced and not experienced with the system but you know

He's a jerk for sure
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