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lowtides
09/12/17 6:43:55 AM
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I was cybering with a guy I really liked last night my mom barged in and ruined the mood! I became soft

I can't do anything. There is no peace or quiet, no alone time when I really need it.

I can't ever move out. I have no money of my own. I can't get a job because of my mental illness and my mom refuses to try and get me on disability after I was rejected once (they told her we would need a lawyer she didn't want to deal with that).

I hate my life
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ReignFury
09/12/17 6:48:59 AM
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Do illegal stuff
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BlazinBlue88
09/12/17 6:50:35 AM
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So why don't you contact a lawyer?

Also what mental illness?
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JimmyJumper6
09/12/17 6:56:28 AM
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your a man tc

if something is wrong, do something about it
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Chicken
09/12/17 7:03:50 AM
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You're capable of forming coherent sentences and using decent grammar so you're more than capable of getting a job. This so-called mental illness is just an excuse to be fucking lazy and useless.
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_Reivax_
09/12/17 7:08:55 AM
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There's nothing wrong with talking with a guy. Also,

JimmyJumper6 posted...
your a man tc

if something is wrong, do something about it

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gmanthebest
09/12/17 7:13:56 AM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
What mental illness?

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lowtides
09/12/17 7:16:43 AM
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BlazinBlue88 posted...
So why don't you contact a lawyer?

Also what mental illness?


My diagnosis isn't clear. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia originally but psychiatrist thought it was a misdiagnosis.

People thought I had Aspergers but the autism center ruled it out.

I definitely have a lot of anxiety, social especially. But there's something more wrong with me and they can't figure it out.

Meds and therapy aren't working for me either.
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lowtides
09/12/17 7:18:26 AM
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Chicken posted...
You're capable of forming coherent sentences and using decent grammar so you're more than capable of getting a job. This so-called mental illness is just an excuse to be fucking lazy and useless.


You don't know anything about mental illness
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Chicken
09/12/17 7:29:10 AM
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lowtides posted...
Chicken posted...
You're capable of forming coherent sentences and using decent grammar so you're more than capable of getting a job. This so-called mental illness is just an excuse to be fucking lazy and useless.


You don't know anything about mental illness


You got two arms, two legs, and a brain. You can find a job.
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LysistrataMedea
09/12/17 7:46:39 AM
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i have a severe mental illness and have a job, also completed a bachelor degree despite having to be hospitalized several times because of said illness. don't let disability hold you back.
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lowtides
09/12/17 7:47:39 AM
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Chicken posted...
lowtides posted...
Chicken posted...
You're capable of forming coherent sentences and using decent grammar so you're more than capable of getting a job. This so-called mental illness is just an excuse to be fucking lazy and useless.


You don't know anything about mental illness


You got two arms, two legs, and a brain. You can find a job.


I do not function well. I will breakdown on any job because my mind is always thinking about what I'm doing wrong, how others perceive me, etc.

In high school I couldn't even talk to or approach my classmates and nothing has changed since then.

You do not know nor do you care to understand what goes on in mind.
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Chicken
09/12/17 7:51:35 AM
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lowtides posted...
I do not function well. I will breakdown on any job because my mind is always thinking about what I'm doing wrong, how others perceive me, etc.


Then get over it.

lowtides posted...
In high school I couldn't even talk to or approach my classmates and nothing has changed since then.


So did I. But I got over it and got a job because I couldn't just sit on my fat ass all day leeching off of others.
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MrDrMan
09/12/17 7:53:27 AM
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Get a job playa.
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YuriSakazaki0
09/12/17 8:03:34 AM
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get a job

Now, I don't want to seem like an insensitive bitch or anything but I think you can get a job and learn to tough it out.

I know someone who's mentally disabled to the point where he can hardly speak and has to clap a little sometimes (I don't know what he has) but has a good job and lives on his own.
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The Admiral
09/12/17 8:05:04 AM
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gmanthebest posted...
BlazinBlue88 posted...
What mental illness?


Laziness
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lowtides
09/12/17 8:12:19 AM
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First off I'm a recluse. I avoid even the people in my life (my family) to a large degree.

I believe I have avoidant personality disorder.

I also can't hold conversations.

I couldn't complete high school because of my mental illness.

I'm a virgin and have no friends except yesterday I decided to go for it with this guy I was cybering with. I'm such a loser and awkward as hell

I'll probably start avoiding this guy down the line
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Chicken
09/12/17 8:15:34 AM
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Making up disorders doesn't actually give you said disorders.

You're lazy and anti social. I'm the same way, except I don't give into delusions that I'm mentally broken and unable to function.
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Polycosm
09/12/17 8:17:17 AM
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There are jobs that don't involve very much interaction with people... truckdriving, for example. (Although maybe that's not the best career to get into with automated vehicles on the horizon).
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Lonestar2000
09/12/17 8:17:47 AM
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Chicken posted...
Making up disorders doesn't actually give you said disorders.

You're lazy and anti social. I'm the same way, except I don't give into delusions that I'm mentally broken and unable to function.

Why is this guy always such an asshole?
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Chicken
09/12/17 8:18:50 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Chicken posted...
Making up disorders doesn't actually give you said disorders.

You're lazy and anti social. I'm the same way, except I don't give into delusions that I'm mentally broken and unable to function.

Why is this guy always such an asshole?


Because you were adopted and no one loves you.
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Polycosm
09/12/17 8:19:50 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Chicken posted...
Making up disorders doesn't actually give you said disorders.

You're lazy and anti social. I'm the same way, except I don't give into delusions that I'm mentally broken and unable to function.

Why is this guy always such an asshole?

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Asshole_Personality_Disorder
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MrDrMan
09/12/17 8:22:52 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
Chicken posted...
Making up disorders doesn't actually give you said disorders.

You're lazy and anti social. I'm the same way, except I don't give into delusions that I'm mentally broken and unable to function.

Why is this guy always such an asshole?


There's a better way to say it but I find it hard to feel bad for someone who self diagnoses.

TC if you genuinely believe you have a disorder see a doctor. Until then people won't take you seriously. That's the unfortunate truth.

I still think you can get a job. If not then what is your plan? To just never work?
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The Admiral
09/12/17 8:28:02 AM
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lowtides posted...
First off I'm a recluse. I avoid even the people in my life (my family) to a large degree.

I believe I have avoidant personality disorder.

I also can't hold conversations.

I couldn't complete high school because of my mental illness.

I'm a virgin and have no friends except yesterday I decided to go for it with this guy I was cybering with. I'm such a loser and awkward as hell

I'll probably start avoiding this guy down the line


I called it appropriately.

You're obviously articulate and intelligent enough that you could certainly find some job that fits around whatever self-diagnosed disabilities you have. The fact that you're deliberately a recluse just creates a negative feedback loop that reinforces all of things you're complaining about. You're just making excuses.
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lowtides
09/12/17 8:34:37 AM
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MrDrMan posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
Chicken posted...
Making up disorders doesn't actually give you said disorders.

You're lazy and anti social. I'm the same way, except I don't give into delusions that I'm mentally broken and unable to function.

Why is this guy always such an asshole?


There's a better way to say it but I find it hard to feel bad for someone who self diagnoses.

TC if you genuinely believe you have a disorder see a doctor. Until then people won't take you seriously. That's the unfortunate truth.

I still think you can get a job. If not then what is your plan? To just never work?


I do have a psychiatrist. I've been on tons of different meds and none of them work.

As I said I was diagnosed as being schizophrenic but my current psychiatrist says it's a misdiagnosis. That's the only real diagnosis I've been given besides the obvious anxiety.

I do think depression is a problem with me as well but no anti depressants have worked for me.

I don't have a plan and it's not like I can get a good job to be independent anyway when I have no education.

I think I'll be homeless one day
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Chicken
09/12/17 8:36:20 AM
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When you're working hard you don't have time to feel depressed.
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MrDrMan
09/12/17 8:40:13 AM
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Chicken posted...
When you're working hard you don't have time to feel depressed.


This. I gotta work 8-1 then get off take a nap and work again 4-11.

You just gotta figure it out man. There are jobs out there but you seem like you've already decided you just can't work.
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lowtides
09/12/17 9:16:05 AM
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The Admiral posted...
lowtides posted...
First off I'm a recluse. I avoid even the people in my life (my family) to a large degree.

I believe I have avoidant personality disorder.

I also can't hold conversations.

I couldn't complete high school because of my mental illness.

I'm a virgin and have no friends except yesterday I decided to go for it with this guy I was cybering with. I'm such a loser and awkward as hell

I'll probably start avoiding this guy down the line


I called it appropriately.

You're obviously articulate and intelligent enough that you could certainly find some job that fits around whatever self-diagnosed disabilities you have. The fact that you're deliberately a recluse just creates a negative feedback loop that reinforces all of things you're complaining about. You're just making excuses.


It's not self diagnosed.

If there was nothing wrong with me I wouldn't be diagnosed with schizophrenia, people wouldn't think I have Aspergers, etc

I'm just not doing a good job of explaining my situation because it is a confusing mess.

If there were school counselors, teachers and therapists who thought I was on the autism spectrum there is clearly more wrong with me than what people think.

I just can't properly explain what's going on with me. But it's more serious than I can put into words.
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lowtides
09/12/17 9:20:45 AM
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BTW I was hospitalized last year too after Orlando Pulse. I had a breakdown and was seriously agitated with everything from myself to my home situation.
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lowtides
09/12/17 9:21:55 AM
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Just because other mentally ill can work doesn't mean all can.
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Chicken
09/12/17 9:29:19 AM
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lowtides posted...
Just because other mentally ill can work doesn't mean all can.

No, but you can.
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YuriSakazaki0
09/12/17 9:41:00 AM
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okay so then what was the point of even making this topic to complain about your living situation when you're content with just staying in your situation and using your mental state as an excuse to remain in your situation despite not liking it?

i can understand not working if you can't communicate at all and/or you have something truly severe but being this self aware about yourself and using it as an excuse shows you can probably work

even without formal education, you can find plenty of jobs that might hire you
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Lonestar2000
09/12/17 9:48:03 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
lowtides posted...
Chicken posted...
lowtides posted...
Chicken posted...
You're capable of forming coherent sentences and using decent grammar so you're more than capable of getting a job. This so-called mental illness is just an excuse to be fucking lazy and useless.


You don't know anything about mental illness


You got two arms, two legs, and a brain. You can find a job.


I do not function well. I will breakdown on any job because my mind is always thinking about what I'm doing wrong, how others perceive me, etc.

In high school I couldn't even talk to or approach my classmates and nothing has changed since then.

You do not know nor do you care to understand what goes on in mind.


You probably just need some CBT to work through those issues. I'm certainly not one to dismiss mental illness, but most people struggle with what you are describing. The best thing to do is force yourself to move forward.

Go get a job, even if you end up quitting.
Start saving money so you can move out.
Go see a CBT specialist.
Put a lock on your door.

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YourDrunkFather
09/12/17 9:59:35 AM
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I have similear issues to you TC and I still go to work everyday. You're making excuses
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lowtides
09/12/17 10:36:28 AM
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You don't get that it's not just the job, everything surrounding it is stressful and overwhelming for me. Including money management (banking), housing, applying, transportation (I can't drive) etc.

I do not tolerate it all like other people will.

A problem is I need someone to hold my hand every step of the way. I can't jump into all of these things alone and even with seeing health professionals they do not offer anything in regards to this.

I have no help and support and this is how it was in high school where I was suicidal.

Doing a job will be very similar to high school I just know it and that's what I detest.

I have never had the social capability which is why I cannot do any job. I will breakdown like I did in high school.
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Twin3Turbo
09/12/17 10:41:18 AM
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lowtides posted...
You don't get that it's not just the job, everything surrounding it is stressful and overwhelming for me. Including money management (banking), housing, applying, transportation (I can't drive) etc.

It's funny, I was just reading something yesterday completely unrelated but the content applies here. It mentioned that people won't or are to scared to start something new because they view it all as one big giant thing that they have to do, instead of breaking it down into manageable steps. And the way you just phrased this pretty much confirms that that's exactly how you are seeing it.

So that's what you need to do, stop viewing getting a job as this big gigantic monster that needs to be handled all at once. Do it in steps. Hell, step one could be something as simple as locating potential work places that are nearby to you that you could walk to. Step two could be going in and filling out applications. Step 3 could be researching how to interview properly and step 4 could be practicing common interview questions etc.

Stop viewing it as this huge 20 headed monster that needs to be slayed all at once.
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Vaati_Reborn
09/12/17 10:53:34 AM
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haha same TC. I mean my family is alright but I'd just really like to be by myself. No way I can do it though and I probably won't ever. At least in my house everyone just kinda leaves each other alone.
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YuriSakazaki0
09/12/17 11:03:23 AM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
lowtides posted...
You don't get that it's not just the job, everything surrounding it is stressful and overwhelming for me. Including money management (banking), housing, applying, transportation (I can't drive) etc.

It's funny, I was just reading something yesterday completely unrelated but the content applies here. It mentioned that people won't or are to scared to start something new because they view it all as one big giant thing that they have to do, instead of breaking it down into manageable steps. And the way you just phrased this pretty much confirms that that's exactly how you are seeing it.

So that's what you need to do, stop viewing getting a job as this big gigantic monster that needs to be handled all at once. Do it in steps. Hell, step one could be something as simple as locating potential work places that are nearby to you that you could walk to. Step two could be going in and filling out applications. Step 3 could be researching how to interview properly and step 4 could be practicing common interview questions etc.

Stop viewing it as this huge 20 headed monster that needs to be slayed all at once.


seriously good advice

take it tc if you really want to turn things around
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Twin3Turbo
09/12/17 11:46:35 AM
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Just to add to what I said earlier since I'm at work and have time because the servers are down due to Hurricane Irma, here are a few other things TC

You mentioned a lot of different reasons in your latest post as to whats stressing you out about getting a job, when most of that stuff itself doesn't even apply to the first step which is getting a job. Lets go through all of them. Here, I'll create a very simple, starting out bootstrap plan for you. Yeah bootstrapping gets a bad rap on here but sometimes it's the only way if you want to better your situation.

Housing - this is already covered for you. No need to even worry about this right now at all when you already have a stable living situation. No excuses

Transportation - as stated earlier, try your best to find somewhere nearby that you can walk to 5 days a week. I walked to work from junior year of high school til I finished my 4th year of college. It can be done. You know the area and businesses around you and you definitely know how to get on the internet and find local business to apply to. No excuses

Money Management - Dude, don't worry about money management until you actually have money to manage. Also, it's not hard. Here let me solve this problem for you. Once you've got your job, go to the bank and open a checking account and a savings account. Give your new employer the information to direct deposit your money into this new account. You've been doing just fine without personal money apparently so your expenses should assumptively still be low and therefore you should be able to save a pretty large chunk if not damn near all of it, especially since you wont have to pay transportation costs. You shouldn't really even much need to touch this money so there really isn't much "management" to be done. There I just solved your money management problem. No excuses.

Applying - Applying at jobs is pretty much the ONLY thing you need to be worried about right now. I pretty much already gave you a plan here in my previous post. Follow that and try to get as many interviews as you possibly can and practice common questions beforehand. If necessary, get two jobs since you've obviously got plenty of time. There's no reason to not be working 40 hours minimum. No excuses

There, that is a simple bootstrap plan for you to get you started with being an adult. As Asherlee stated before, we get it, it can feel like a lot but part of being an adult is learning how to manage it. The good thing is that all of this doesn't have to be done at once. It can be done over time. Just do a few things a day.

Hopefully all of this doesn't get ignored although I'm sure there is a very high likelihood of that. Maybe someone else will see it and be inspired, I dunno. Either way, take it or leave it. No excuses.
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BlazinBlue88
09/12/17 11:48:48 AM
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lowtides posted...
You don't get that it's not just the job, everything surrounding it is stressful and overwhelming for me. Including money management (banking), housing, applying, transportation (I can't drive) etc.

Unknown things are stressful to all humans. Everyone feels stress about those things until they get into the thick of it. Many people have anxiety and I guarantee some have it worse than you yet we all have to deal with life in whatever way we can. Sitting at home and letting your parents take care of you isn't dealing with life. It's refusing to grow up and get over your own issues.

You know what you should be stressed over? What you're going to do when your parents die and there's no one else to take care of you. That stress should scare you enough to take action and better you situation instead of sucking your thumb until it happens.

lowtides posted...
I do not tolerate it all like other people will.

Yes you will. You'll spend your first few weeks going into the bathroom during your breaks and having a good cry. That's ok. You'll slowly get comfortable at the job and stop doing that.

Your communication sucks? Yeah so does everyone's until they are forced to interact with people. You aren't forced to be social in school. You are in a job. My socials skills were dreadful until I got into the work force. They still aren't great but they are good enough for me to become very successful in my IT career field.

Continue with your therapy and continue trying different meds. Good for you working towards that. Something will work for you and it'll make your life so much better.
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