Board 8 > Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 9: The Offseason

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Sometimes, life makes it difficult or even impossible to devote time to B8NFLL during its busy portions. Instead of idling, I highly recommend that you give me temporary control of your team (for a fixed or indefinite amount of time), and I will run them like they were my own. You can also give me instructions on what you would like me to do in case you have a specific vision of the direction of your team and want to make sure that I will follow it.

However, we see our fair share of idling every season, and I want to reiterate what happens in that event:

1. If you idle in Restricted Free Agency, I will sign a random RFA of yours to a random tender level (if you don't understand what I mean by that, I will explain tomorrow).

2. If you idle in signing your remaining free agents, I will sign a random one-third of your UFAs, and I do round up (if you had 16 UFAs, I will sign six).

3. If you idle during the NFL Draft, I will draft as if I was in charge of the team. Many teams still take advantage of this to their benefit.

4. If you idle the rookie signing period, then I will sign all of your rookies to the deals that they desire. If you have cap or roster space issues (former shouldn't be a problem unless you are the Redskins), I prioritize rookies whose position is one that still needs to be filled on your team (aka roster holes).

5. If you idle during free agency, then there will be no attempt to sign any of the premier free agents. If you have any holes on your roster at the conclusion of free agency, the AI will randomly sign players to fill those holes for you. There is one team that is currently the exception to this rule.
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To Do:
- Move to the next segment of the offseason

Tomorrow, we truly begin
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I am so ready, me and my least amount of cap in the user-league
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KCF0107 posted...

Tomorrow, we truly begin

Coincidentally, so does the actual NFL season!

Once PMs get sent out, if I don't reply in the next day or two then I might need like a week or something. I'm kinda in the direct path of some sort of blown up tropical storm or something.

Would you want me to make decisions on your behalf in that event? The deadline will be about 72 hours from when I send out the final PM.
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Luckily it seems that it might miss me, be safe shattered
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I'm still on the fence about evacuating. Probably make a decision tomorrow evening and if so I'd be driving to Tennessee.

If I get my PM tonight or tomorrow I'd be ok to reply. If not I'm sure KCF could make decisions for me if I don't get back to him. I don't think I have that many RFA's anyway, I think maybe 2 (Parrish and Beardless iirc) as I tied one up mid-season for fear of losing him (Tufts)

Also the following players are on the trade block for me (although if there's an in-game trade block, not on that. Just between other players)

Sign and trades
HB Courtney Lewis (87)
HB Mike Bush (83)
FB Mike Smith (89)
LE Raheem Brock (89)
RE David McMillan (85)
RE Ryan Nece (84)
DT Marlon Favorite (85)
LG Taitusi Lutui (91) - Keep in mind I paid a 1st, 4th, 5th, 3rd round WR and an 80-81 ish CB for him last year as an 89

Under contract players
LT Mike Pearson (92) - 2 years remaining (although keep in mind I'd have to eat a huge cap hit on him)
LT Eric Winston (89) - 2 years
WR Demiko Goodman (82) - 2 years
QB Kyle Gant (80) - 2 years (2nd round pick 2 years ago)
QB Robet Griffin (80) - 3 years (1st round pick last year)
LG Zach Piller (90) - 4 years (although only likely to get 1 year out of him. I'd be eating a huge hit)
RG Mike Goff (90) - 4 years (although only likely to get 1 year out of him. I'd be eating a huge hit)


I'd only be looking to move 1-2 of my Guards/Tackles and 1 of my DE's. Mainly looking for draft picks or WR's

Shattered get the hell out of there
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Falcons
LT Jonathan Ogden
DT Jamal Williams
LE Jevon Kearse (98 career sacks)

Ouch.
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Restricted Free Agency

This minor but oddly detailed offseason event is for a small subset of players who just completed their untampered rookie contract that was exactly three years in length. These players are not eligible to be originally offered multi-year contracts by the team that holds their rights but instead one-year contracts of fixed figures based on the tender level that you offer them.

Our Tender Levels for this season
No Tender = no potential draft pick compensation = $0
Low Tender = potential original round draft pick compensation = $790k
Mid Tender = potential 1st round draft pick compensation = $1.72 mil
High Tender = potential 1st + 3rd round draft pick compensation = $2.28 mil

Now, the mentioning of draft pick compensation there is only applicable if another team attempts to sign your player. It has no bearing on this first phase of RFA. It wouldn't make much sense if you had to give up draft picks to sign your own player now would it? Newcomers and people who don't have a good memory are certainly free to ask me what round a player was drafted in if that affects their tender level.

That being said, you might want to keep in mind about that draft pick compensation when you determine what tender to offer your player. If you think very highly of your player, you might want to offer the highest tender to deter other teams from attempting to sign them. If you don't consider a player to be a part of your future plans, you might want to offer the low tender so that they barely count against your cap space and you could end up even getting draft pick compensation if someone else wants him.

A word of advice from me: The full monetary amount attached to the tenders is NOT GUARANTEED and is usually less than what they would make on the open market, so there is essentially 0 risk to offering all of your players a tender unless you personally hate them with a passion.

You can also engage trade talks with other teams so that you can prearrange a trade that if X player is not signed by another team, you will trade them to Y team for Z compensation that might be lower than what Y team would have had to give up to sign them during RFA. In this scenario, you might want to offer the highest tender level to deter the maximum amount of teams from disrupting the trade.
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Steps to Restricted Free Agency

1. I will privately contact every user and inform them of their RFAs and the tender levels. If you don’t have any RFAs, then you won’t be notified.

2. Users will have three days to inform me which players they wish to sign and at what level.

3. I will publicly reveal all RFAs from user and A.I. teams that can be signed by other teams (AKA were offered a tender) plus their tender levels and the base kind of deal they are looking for.

4. I will give users four days to decide any action, if any, they wish to take. If they do wish to take further action, they will PM me.

Now by "any action you wish to take," I mean that everyone has an opportunity to attempt to sign RFAs from other teams. You might see some sticker shock but keep in mind that some positions are more expensive (WRs, DTs, QBs) than others (OLBs, Cs, TEs) relative to their overall rating. An 80 WR will usually be more expensive than a 90 C, and that's just how things are.

5. If a team attempts to sign another team’s RFA, then the user who owns the RFA’s rights will have two days to decide whether or not to match the offer. If you do not inform me of a decision, you are defaulted to NOT matching the deal.
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Preferred format in initial return PM is:
Player - Tender Level (High/Mid/Low/No Tender)

The deadline to PM me for the first phase of RFA will be Sunday, September 10th at 11:59 PM ET
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Just to clarify since I've forgotten how this works, when you say "potential" 1st rounder or original draft pick, you mean that you will in fact get that specific pick and not one from a different round as long as another team successfully sign thems, right?

So for instance, if you have a player drafted in the 1st round originally, and you offered them a low tender, it would result in the same draft pick compensation you would get if you offered them a mid tender?

All PMs have now been sent
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I say potential because it is dependent on whether or not another team attempts to sign said RFA. Perhaps "possible" is a better word choice?

If by successfully signing a player, you mean the original team elects not to match the other team's offer, then yes, you will receive the applicable draft pick compensation.

Theoretically, a player drafted in the 1st round would result in having the same draft pick compensation if offered a low or mid tender. It has happened once in B8NFLL, and I totally forget how it went.
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Thanks, KCF.

Just checked the Team Financials for the first time since the update and saw the Redskins' cap space. Haha, are they really 30 million over? I know they're an AI team so it doesn't matter, but I wasn't sure if that was a typo or not.

I wouldn't be surprised. What with jukkie apparently signing everyone to like 7 year deals and whatnot
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A. It costs a lot to keep an uber-talented team together
B. Signing uber-talented players to long contracts simultaneously will destroy your cap space in the future
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Especially if you do a lot of it through free agency, since those contracts will be even higher due to competition (I totally didn't do this at all, really!)
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I feel like this is the fastest I've ever replied to one of these PMs
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ShatteredElysium posted...

LG Taitusi Lutui (91) - Keep in mind I paid a 1st, 4th, 5th, 3rd round WR and an 80-81 ish CB for him last year as an 89

I also gave a 3rd rounder! And Lutui was 91 when I traded him last year (according to the spreadsheet at least).

Yeah, it was Pillar who had his rating increase
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TheKnightOfNee posted...

I feel like this is the fastest I've ever replied to one of these PMs

The timing is right - I am hyped for football rn.
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I’m also going to go ahead and put the following players on the trade block too:

LG Eric Heitmann (33 yrs, 92 OVR)
C Casey Rabach (35 yrs, 92 OVR)
RG Stephen Neal (33 yrs, 94 OVR)

Mainly looking for picks or players at the same position in return, but anything should be ok with me
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Oh, also, when do we see the next draft prospects?
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When they are available to me

(just before the draft)
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KCF0107 posted...

When they are available to me

(just before the draft)

Alright, thanks
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KCF0107 posted...

A. It costs a lot to keep an uber-talented team together
B. Signing uber-talented players to long contracts simultaneously will destroy your cap space in the future

C. A Jukkie did it!

Hey I didn't sign 5 QB's and 7 WR's to that team. They did that to themselves. I could easily get that team under cap. 7 year deals are a great investment IMO. You just gotta know when to dump them if need be. Never meant to play out every 7 year contract.

AI Dan Snyder = bad GM, kind of like the IRL Dan Snyder
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whoever messaged me the other dayIm not intentionally ignoring you but have not had time to really look at this so I willmessage you when I am able to
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Hello everyone! I will probably be a bit slow at learning but I expect great things with my new team and I think we can do great things this year! :O
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No worries, dude. This will be my 3rd season and I'm still learning myself.

VeryInsane posted...

Looks like I'll need a new nickname for stevr.
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Roughly eight hours until the deadline
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Less than three hours
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The deadline for the first phase of RFA has passed. Next phase begins within the next 24 hours.
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So what happens if you do not have the picks required for RFA? I assume it just doesn't let you bid for that player rather than doing something else right? I know I don't have a 1st (not that I've ever offered a 1st in RFA) so just pre-empting really

You can't make an offer for someone requiring a pick you don't have
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Phase 2 of Restricted Free Agency

KCF0107 posted...

3. I will publicly reveal all RFAs from user and A.I. teams that can be signed by other teams (AKA were offered a tender) plus their tender levels and the base kind of deal they are looking for.

4. I will give users four days to decide any action, if any, they wish to take. If they do wish to take further action, they will PM me.

The following post will contain a list of all the players (sorted by team) who were offered a tender in Phase 1. These are the players that you can attempt to sign away from other teams, and now is the time to do it. You can only do this with players from other teams. You can not sign your own RFAs to long-term deals.

In parenthesis will be the draft pick compensation that you would have to give up if you sign a player and their original team does not match it. To reiterate, you will not lose draft picks for merely offering a deal to a player. The original team also has to decline to match said offer in Phase 3.

Proceeding it will be a slashline. This slashline is the kind of deal that the player is looking for, but it is NOT the deal that you have to sign them to. You can offer them a contract between 1-7 years in length, but you need to keep in mind of the base deal when it comes to offering a customized offer.

If a player is asking for 4 / $8.00 mil / $1.60 mil, offering them 3 / $3.00 mil / $300k will certainly be shot down by the player. I only submit offers to players after the phase has ended, so in this scenario, you would have wasted your time, not to mention the user/AI might be also compelled to match such a below-market deal if it miraculously was accepted by the player.

In fact, if you really want a player, you will probably want to increase the amount of money (not necessarily the years) that a player is requesting to increase the odds of the user/AI with the player's rights will not match the deal. In this example, the player is looking for a contract that offers $2.00 mil a year with $400k in guaranteed money as 8.00 mil / 4 = $2.00 mil and $1.60 mil / 4 = $400k. Use the second and third figures in a slashline to use as a benchmark.

I have one last thing to mention. You can only attempt to sign someone if you have the draft pick compensation that would be needed to acquire them. If a player was signed to a high tender, they require 1st and 3rd round picks in compensation. If you don't have both, you cannot attempt to sign the player in question. Here are the teams who have RFA limitations due to trades from Season 8:
- Cowboys cannot sign anyone that requires a 1st round pick
- Falcons cannot sign anyone that requires a 3rd round pick
- Panthers cannot sign anyone that requires a 3rd round pick
- Steelers cannot sign anyone that requires a 1st, 4th, or 5th round pick
- Titans cannot sign anyone that requires a 5th round pick
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Bears
WR Josh Briscoe (1st) - 3 / $15.1 mil / $2.55 mil
CB Brian Boyd (4th) - 5 / $11.3 mil / $1.25 mil

Bengals
SS James Ihedigbo (1st) - 3 / $7.43 mil / $870k
RG Dallas Reynolds (4th) - 4 / $7.57 mil / $1.40 mil
LT Michael Oher (3rd) - 5 / $10.7 mil / $1.75 mil

Bills
RE Kyle Johnson (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $24.8 mil / $5.72 mil
DT Roy Miller (2nd) - 4 / $16.4 mil / $3.16 mil
FS Dwight Lowery (2nd) - 4 / $8.36 mil / $1.40 mil
RE Sergio Walter (4th) - 5 / $8.03 mil / $1.00 mil

Broncos
DT Robert Satele (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $29.0 mil / $5.32 mil
K Ryan Succop (1st) - 2 / $2.95 mil / $400k
LE Justin Mincey (4th) - 5 / $10.0 mil / $1.20 mil
FS Dorian Monroe (3rd) - 4 / $7.74 mil / $1.28 mil

Browns
WR Patrick Turner (1st) - 3 / $16.3 mil / $2.76 mil

Buccaneers
FB Conredge Collins (1st) - 2 / $7.48 mil / $1.84 mil

Chiefs
WR Malcolm Kelly (1st) - 3 / $12.8 mil / $2.16 mil
TE Richard Quinn (4th) - 4 / $8.76 mil / $1.32 mil
LT Donald Penn (1st + 3rd) - 5 / $11.5 mil / $1.95 mil
RT Cory McCrimon (2nd) - 4 / $8.58 mil / $1.40 mil

Colts
RE Paul Freeney (1st) - 4 / $13.5 mil / $2.48 mil
RT Larry Robinson (4th) - 4 / $8.27 mil / $1.32 mil
RT Tim Powell (3rd) - 4 / $7.96 mil / $1.24 mil
CB Michael Garvin (4th) - 5 / $8.42 mil / $1.00 mil
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Wait, I have my 2nd round pick?
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Stupid surprise maintenance forcing me to re-type this

Cowboys
K Nick Folk (1st) - 2 / $3.45 mil / $440k
SS Ian Cox (1st + 3rd) - 2 / $6.51 mil / $640k
RT Tony Ugoh (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $18.2 mil / $4.86 mil
LT Jeff Zeigler (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $22.4 mil / $5.84 mil
FS Keenan Clayton (2nd) - 3 / $7.36 mil / $1.32 mil

Dolphins
CB Jake Tyree (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $17.9 mil / $3.00 mil
FB Le'Ron McClain (3rd) - 3 / $2.77 mil / $420k

Falcons
FB Javorski Lane (1st) - 2 / $8.05 mil / $2.12 mil

49ers
TE Martellus Bennett (1st) - 3 / $10.3 mil / $1.95 mil

Giants
P Scott Kozlowski (5th) - 2 / $1.63 mil / $440k
FS Travis Hudson (1st) - 4 / $8.93 mil / $1.48 mil
ROLB Eddie Thompson (1st) - 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
CB Demetrice Morley (4th) - 5 / $10.3 mil / $1.15 mil

Hawks
P Nathan Parseghian (1st) - 2 / $1.65 mil / $460k
C Max Unger (1st) - 3 / $8.05 mil / $1.68 mil
RT Dace Richardson (2nd) - 4 / $9.20 mil / $1.56 mil

Jaguars
MLB Rey Maualuga (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $12.0 mil / $1.92 mil
WR James Jones (1st) - 3 / $13.9 mil / $2.34 mil
RE Cordero Moore (1st) - 5 / $10.4 mil / $1.25 mil
DT Albert Newell (1st) - 5 / $14.5 mil / $2.80 mil
ROLB Albert Brown (1st) - 4 / $6.42 mil / $1.00 mil

Jets
QB Michael Robinson (2nd) - 4 / $14.2 mil / $2.56 mil
RT Brett Black (4th) - 4 / $9.20 mil / $1.56 mil
RG David Moosman (3rd) - 4 / $5.59 mil / $960k

Lightning
FS Louis Delmas (1st) - 3 / $8.05 mil / $1.53 mil

Lions
WR O.J. Murdock (4th) - 3 / $13.9 mil / $2.34 mil
CB Brandon Harrison (3rd) - 5 / $8.42 mil / $1.00 mil

Packers
WR Pierre Garcon (1st) - 3 / $13.9 mil / $2.34 mil
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Panthers
LE Jeremy Washington (4th) - 5 / $9.68 ml / $1.20 mil

Patriots
MLB Ken Reid (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $13.2 mil / $2.34 mil
ROLB Alex Daniels (3rd) - 4 / $6.42 mil / $1.00 mil

Pioneers
RE Zach Potter (1st) - 4 / $15.1 mil / $2.92 mil
DT Ekom Udofia (4th) - 5 / $15.6 mil / $3.10 mil

Pumpkins
HB Reshard Mendenhall (4th) - 4 / $10.7 mil / $2.00 mil
LG Jahri Evans (3rd) - 4 / $7.08 mil / $1.32 mil

Raiders
DT Demonte Bolden (1st) - 4 / $16.4 mil / $3.16 mil
QB Tavaris Jackson (2nd) - 4 / $15.7 mil / $3.04 mil
FS Edwin Parks (4th) - 4 / $8.36 mil / $1.40 mil

Rams
DT John Mixon (1st) - 4 / $16.4 mil / $3.16 mil
SS Joshua Gore (4th) - 3 / $4.79 mil / $660k
CB Antoine Pittman (3rd) - 5 / $11.3 mil / $1.25 mil

Ravens
OLB Cedric Young (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $18.5 mil / $3.99 mil
HB Danny Woodhead (1st) - 4 / $14.3 mil / $2.72 mil
CB Leodis McKelvin (1st) - 5 / $16.2 mil / $1.65 mil

Seahawks
FB Dane Zaslaw (1st) - 2 / $5.43 mil / $1.22 mil
C Jacob Johnson (4th) - 3 / $5.08 mil / $900k
LOLB Rico McCoy (2nd) - 4 / $4.93 mil / $720k

Steelers
CB Pat Parrish (1st) - 4 / $17.3 mil / $2.88 mil
LE Ted Beardless (2nd) - 4 / $10.3 mil / $1.56 mil

Titans
HB R.J. Jackson (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $26.5 mil / $5.32 mil
RG Jon Schmidt (1st) - 3 / $11.4 mil / $2.28 mil
RE Allan Smith (4th) - 5 / $7.65 mil / $1.00 mil

Vikings
MLB Sam Crooks (1st + 3rd) - 2 / $11.3 mil / $2.38 mil
WR Quan Cosby (1st) - 3 / $13.9 mil / $2.34 mil

Wildcats
RT Anthony Collins (1st + 3rd) - 3 / $11.1 mil / $2.55 mil
HB Leon Jackson (1st + 3rd) - 4 / $12.5 mil / $2.32 mil
LOLB Robert Dahl (3rd) - 4 / $4.44 mil / $560k
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The deadline to submit me offers for Phase 2 of RFA will be 11:59 PM ET on Friday, September 15th

If you do not wish to participate in this phase, do not feel compelled to do so. The vast majority of users and AI choose to sit this out, but we always get a little bit of activity.
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I may have something for this already, but if it does fall through, I will be interested in doing something like my 2nd and 4th (12th in each round) for someone's 2nd and 3rd (further back in each round) so you'd be moving up in the 2nd and back in the later rounds. Expect PMs if my current thing falls through.
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I could probably make that trade straight up

Trade to review:

Panthers get:
Steelers 2nd rd (25th in rd)
Steelers 3rd rd (25th in rd)

Steelers get:
Panthers 2nd rd (12th in rd)
Panthers 4th rd (12th in rd)
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