Current Events > It tilts me how much money these streamer girls get to play video games.

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VandorLee posted...

joe40001 posted...

VandorLee posted...

Im not hating the people doing it but the people donating. Like, I can just go on dates, and i did and if you actually try and be a decent person getting a gf is not hard yet youre giving a girl money to watch her play games?

Sad sad people.

You sound like a rich person talking about how they don't understand some choices poor people make.

Im saying they sound like theyve given up and now just give money to girls online when its really not hard to get a girl friend. If youll just give money to girls online i feel your standards are low and that only helps. You dont start with 10s anyway.

The problem comes from your premise of "I've gotten girlfriends easily so it's not that hard for anybody to get one" which is a false premise, and in turn all conclusions from that false premise are unsound
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joe40001 posted...

The problem comes from your premise of "I've gotten girlfriends easily so it's not that hard for anybody to get one" which is a false premise, and in turn all conclusions from that false premise are unsound

That doesn't mean giving $500 to a girl across the country who ultimately doesn't give two fucks about you is excusable behavior just because "wah I can't get a gf".

If you've got that kinda money to spend then invest in yourself and the result will come. We live in a society that's too obsessed with instant gratification rather than putting in the work in for the prize at the end and blanket blaming society for our shortcomings. This mentality has got to end
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Nobody is forcing or manipulating these weirdos to donate hundreds of dollars. Plenty of people stream online as a hobby for free.
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WaterLink posted...

joe40001 posted...

The problem comes from your premise of "I've gotten girlfriends easily so it's not that hard for anybody to get one" which is a false premise, and in turn all conclusions from that false premise are unsound

That doesn't mean giving $500 to a girl across the country who ultimately doesn't give two fucks about you is excusable behavior just because "wah I can't get a gf".

If you've got that kinda money to spend then invest in yourself and the result will come. We live in a society that's too obsessed with instant gratification rather than putting in the work in for the prize at the end and blanket blaming society for our shortcomings. This mentality has got to end

I'm not defending them so much as saying that how you act seems to demonstrate a lack of familiarity or context for such people's emotional state that you are not treating them with fairness.

For example, the phrase "wah I can't get a gf" is designed to suggest the speaker of such a phrase to be a entitled whiny person, when in fact many lonely people are simply lonely due to circumstances or choices that were not presented to them fairly.

Put simply, you really seem to not understand those you are shittalking.
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joe40001 posted...

For example, the phrase "wah I can't get a gf" is designed to suggest the speaker of such a phrase to be a entitled whiny person, when in fact many lonely people are simply lonely due to circumstances or choices that were not presented to them fairly.

Put simply, you really seem to not understand those you are shittalking.

I haven't had a gf since 2010. Partly due to lack of effort on my part in certain parts of this period, partly due to being shut down by multiple people, partly due to me and one of my female friends having an agreement because we both weren't getting any. But then that ended because she got a bf and never talked to me again.

But despite it all, I don't feel the need to spend $500 on a girl who I'll never meet and who doesn't give a fuck about me. If I was going to spend that, I'd go buy a goddamn escort or something because at least then I'm having some sort of physical encounter and some kind of return for my money, even if I think that's a rip-off as well.

I understand getting shut down frequently. I understand feeling hopeless and feeling like I'll be alone forever. I was this close to ending it all at one point.

But eventually I just started living for myself and my friends and stopped worrying about all that. Once that stopped being at the front of my mind constantly I actually started having more success with girls.

So you are coming at me acting like I'm sitting here with no frame of reference and can't relate to these kids throwing their money around for no reason, but it's actually YOU, sir, who has no frame of reference for where I'm coming from. I am staunchly against enabling this spending behavior. Also against attacking the girls and not attacking the people who throw their money around pointlessly which is what creates more of these girls doing these things.
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WaterLink posted...

joe40001 posted...

For example, the phrase "wah I can't get a gf" is designed to suggest the speaker of such a phrase to be a entitled whiny person, when in fact many lonely people are simply lonely due to circumstances or choices that were not presented to them fairly.

Put simply, you really seem to not understand those you are shittalking.

I haven't had a gf since 2010. Partly due to lack of effort on my part in certain parts of this period, partly due to being shut down by multiple people, partly due to me and one of my female friends having an agreement because we both weren't getting any. But then that ended because she got a bf and never talked to me again.

But despite it all, I don't feel the need to spend $500 on a girl who I'll never meet and who doesn't give a fuck about me. If I was going to spend that, I'd go buy a goddamn escort or something because at least then I'm having some sort of physical encounter and some kind of return for my money, even if I think that's a rip-off as well.

I understand getting shut down frequently. I understand feeling hopeless and feeling like I'll be alone forever. I was this close to ending it all at one point.

But eventually I just started living for myself and my friends and stopped worrying about all that. Once that stopped being at the front of my mind constantly I actually started having more success with girls.

So you are coming at me acting like I'm sitting here with no frame of reference and can't relate to these kids throwing their money around for no reason, but it's actually YOU, sir, who has no frame of reference for where I'm coming from. I am staunchly against enabling this spending behavior. Also against attacking the girls and not attacking the people who throw their money around pointlessly which is what creates more of these girls doing these things.

I never claimed to have a frame of reference for your life experience just an inference based on how you talked. It seems now that you aren't dismissive of them because you don't empathize but rather because you feel pride that you escaped lowness yourself.

It would still seem like you were only adjacent to the lowness rather than in the thick of it, (you had a FWB you had a girlfriend for a time before this all) that said I'm not saying them spending that money is like right or something just that insulting such people is really just insult to injury. They are affection starved and even being on the periphery of that you must appreciate how bad that can feel.

The solution for them is not at all what they are doing to get out of it, but idk it seemed like you weren't giving them any sympathy and considering how depressed they probably are already that's harsh by my assessment.
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