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Nelson_Mandela 08/28/17 6:26:29 PM #1: |
https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520
Comic nerds, what do you think? Seems like insane masochism to be a good SJW on the surface, but who knows. Is this character's race important to the plot or something? Does this mean we can never have a black Batman? Give me your hot take. --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 08/28/17 6:28:27 PM #2: |
they should make the character a woman and hire Emma Stone
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Nelson_Mandela 08/28/17 6:29:08 PM #3: |
MoogleKupo141 posted...
they should make the character a woman and hire Emma Stone but it would still be racist --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 08/28/17 6:29:16 PM #4: |
Doesn't bother me but the race doesn't matter that much to Hellboy. Same situation as Donald Glover as Spider-Man.
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Mr Lasastryke 08/28/17 6:30:00 PM #5: |
good job. i know many people would disagree but i appreciate it when these movies stay close to the source material. didn't like it when the daredevil movie had a black kingpin, for instance.
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MoogleKupo141 08/28/17 6:30:03 PM #6: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...they should make the character a woman and hire Emma Stone no. She's Asian, it's fine. --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thundersheep 08/28/17 6:31:28 PM #7: |
This move ups his profile more than the actual role would. I don't really care that whitewashing is done, but in the more egregious cases it lets me know that I can just ignore the movie entirely. Taking those kinds of liberties generally imply the movie will be trash anyway (Exodus).
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Nelson_Mandela 08/28/17 6:32:55 PM #8: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
good job. i know many people would disagree but i appreciate it when these movies stay close to the source material. didn't like it when the daredevil movie had a black kingpin, for instance. bigot --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 6:35:40 PM #9: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520 My hot take is that I don't think a black Batman would work. I think Bruce coming from upper crust white Gotham is an important contrast to demonstrate the creature comforts he's eschewing in his endless quest for justice. I suppose there could be a black Batman after Bruce that he passes the mantle to. Maybe something there. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 6:40:08 PM #10: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
good job. i know many people would disagree but i appreciate it when these movies stay close to the source material. didn't like it when the daredevil movie had a black kingpin, for instance. Would you have preferred an actually blind actor in the lead role? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 08/28/17 6:41:08 PM #11: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Would you have preferred an actually blind actor in the lead role? nah, i'm not THAT much of a purist. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Behindthecurve 08/28/17 6:41:10 PM #12: |
But it's perfectly alright for Idris Elba to be Roland in Dark Tower? These reverse inverse triple backwards racists are the worst.
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Nelson_Mandela 08/28/17 6:41:53 PM #13: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520 Diddy would be a perfectly realistic Bruce Wayne --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 6:42:13 PM #14: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Would you have preferred an actually blind actor in the lead role? Being blind is much more essential to Daredevil's character than being white is to Kingpin's though. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 6:43:07 PM #15: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520 Diddy isn't even a realistic Diddy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 08/28/17 6:43:41 PM #16: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Being blind is much more essential to Daredevil's character than being white is to Kingpin's though. affleck can pass for a blind guy, though. it was pretty hard for duncan to pass for a white guy. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrGreenonion 08/28/17 6:44:30 PM #17: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Would you have preferred an actually blind actor in the lead role? Matt Murdock wasn't born blind anyway, so to really be accurate they should've just dumped toxic waste in Ben Affleck's eyes --- SuperNiceDog didn't have to reconcile his name... But Dauntless Hunter is now MrGreenonion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 6:47:04 PM #18: |
Mr Lasastryke posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Being blind is much more essential to Daredevil's character than being white is to Kingpin's though. Which would be farther from the source material, in your opinion: Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin or Orlando Bloom as Kingpin --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 08/28/17 6:50:28 PM #19: |
bloom, obviously.
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banananor 08/28/17 7:30:07 PM #20: |
Did anyone else have to read a book in school about a black girl that wanted to be Peter pan in the school play? Was that just me?
I don't know what the employment in acting situation is, so I have no opinion, really. Person can do whatever he wants Without context, I guess it does feel like it could be a moral judgment from him. Is he implying that Idris elba should have stepped down from playing the gunslinger, or is it more about the volume of acting rules available to minorities? --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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banananor 08/28/17 7:30:51 PM #21: |
Oh, and this will probably give him a bigger publicity bump than actually taking the role
It's a calculated move for sure --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theo72 08/28/17 7:34:03 PM #22: |
banananor posted...
Did anyone else have to read a book in school about a black girl that wanted to be Peter pan in the school play? Was that just me? Title of that book was Amazing Grace, I believe. --- You have not heard the last of me... And you never will... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 08/28/17 8:08:32 PM #23: |
banananor posted...
Did anyone else have to read a book in school about a black girl that wanted to be Peter pan in the school play? Was that just me? No because in the SJW mind, you are only racist if you're white --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 08/28/17 8:18:51 PM #24: |
Okay so let's take a time out to note that Dark Tower is a crazy situation lore wise and a black dude playing Roland isn't really the weirdest possible outcome.
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Murphiroth 08/28/17 8:20:23 PM #25: |
The character in question does have some minor plot details tying back to his race, mostly his grandmother being an Imperial Japanese agent. Very minor though IIRC.
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JetJaguar 08/28/17 8:28:22 PM #26: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...they should make the character a woman and hire Emma Stone The entire point of Emma Stone's character in Aloha is that she was a quarter Hawaiian/quarter Chinese but didn't look like it at all, which influenced her personality because she had a chip on shoulder. The girl she was based on was a half Chinese/Hawaiian ginger. Anyway, this is great. Assuming of course that there will be pressure for the black actress portraying Domino (who literally has white clown makeup skin color) to drop out of Deadpool 2. There will be, right? --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MenuWars 08/28/17 8:29:20 PM #27: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Okay so let's take a time out to note that Dark Tower is a crazy situation lore wise and a black dude playing Roland isn't really the weirdest possible outcome. I thought Elba was a good choice, but them not giving him the blue eyes was a mistake. It was a mechanism used to show he still had hope despite the world crumbling around him and was constantly referenced throughout the books. Other than that his looks, were pretty irrelevant. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maniac64 08/28/17 8:57:36 PM #28: |
I'm just sad they are doing a reboot.
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Mr Lasastryke 08/28/17 8:59:34 PM #29: |
perlman was good but the second movie was pretty terrible. i'm fine with a reboot.
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 9:00:31 PM #30: |
JetJaguar posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...MoogleKupo141 posted...they should make the character a woman and hire Emma Stone Go ahead and start the crusade now if you want --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/28/17 9:02:34 PM #31: |
good on ed skrein. makes me more likely to check out his work.
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SeabassDebeste 08/28/17 9:03:45 PM #32: |
holy shit HE WAS ORIGINAL DAARIO
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HeroDelTiempo17 08/28/17 9:05:49 PM #33: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520 Didn't realize black people couldn't be rich socialites, interesting take --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drakeryn 08/28/17 9:07:13 PM #34: |
banananor posted...
Did anyone else have to read a book in school about a black girl that wanted to be Peter pan in the school play? Was that just me? not exactly this, but in school I read a story about a black boy who wanted to be Prince Charming(?) in the school play. he used skin lightening cream for weeks but it was no use, the part went to a lighter-skinned boy. instead the main character got cast as the bad guy. so, during the play, the main character walked up and punched Prince Charming in the face it turned into an all-out brawl and he was banned from next year's school play but it was worth it --- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero11 08/28/17 9:10:35 PM #35: |
At first I thought "good for him" but my God that twitter letter makes it look like he cares more about improving his image than the casting the character accurately
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ExThaNemesis 08/28/17 9:12:25 PM #36: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Okay so let's take a time out to note that Dark Tower is a crazy situation lore wise and a black dude playing Roland isn't really the weirdest possible outcome. Since they didn't have Detta Walker I was okay with it, but Roland being black would've messed with that whole dynamic and made it worse. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SeabassDebeste 08/28/17 9:17:07 PM #37: |
MZero11 posted...
At first I thought "good for him" but my God that twitter letter makes it look like he cares more about improving his image than the casting the character accurately he obviously does care more about his career than people's feelings. people are selfish. so it's a move good for both the movie and for him. nothing wrong with that! --- yet all sailors of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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banananor 08/28/17 9:21:34 PM #38: |
in terms of the dark tower i didn't read the whole series myself, but finished it via wikipedia. apparently in a later book (spoilers)
but then again i just meant to bring up a random example. maybe a better one would be the black norse god in thor, maybe? i dunno. the example could even be another white actor playing a traditionally non white role --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 08/28/17 9:25:11 PM #39: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Didn't realize black people couldn't be rich socialites, interesting take Have you read The Great Gatsby? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 9:25:48 PM #40: |
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...Nelson_Mandela posted...https://twitter.com/edskrein/status/902244967296491520 It's not that they can't be, it's just that we aren't at a point as a society where a black family could be such entrenched old money like the Waynes. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/28/17 9:25:59 PM #41: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Go ahead and start the crusade now if you want spoilers: i don't, because I'm not mentally disabled --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/28/17 9:29:52 PM #42: |
Okay then, if you don't care then don't worry about it.
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ExThaNemesis 08/28/17 9:31:08 PM #43: |
JetJaguar posted...
spoilers: i don't, because I'm not mentally disabled I could buy you playing a mentally disabled person in a movie though. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 08/28/17 9:34:07 PM #44: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
I could buy you playing a mentally disabled person in a movie though. damn --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/29/17 7:16:19 AM #45: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Okay then, if you don't care then don't worry about it. So if I'm not a terrorist myself, that means I can't be against terrorism? --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/29/17 10:44:49 AM #46: |
I don't think that's a great analogy.
If you don't care about the race of the Donino actress, then you probably don't care about the race of this Hellboy role either, so don't worry about it. It's like you really want to expose some awful hypocritical double standard but then say you don't care --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JetJaguar 08/29/17 8:05:51 PM #47: |
Or maybe I do care but value my time too much (or have dealt with enough brick wall, close minded liberals) to do anything about it. Its a fine analogy BTW.
Also lol, apparently its now "offensive" just to mention the term "mentally disabled." You guys have such a tough time with words and ideas =( --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 08/29/17 8:55:50 PM #48: |
JetJaguar posted...
You guys have such a tough time with words and ideas =( Says the guy who willfully blocked this post from his reaching eyes --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/29/17 10:17:42 PM #49: |
JetJaguar posted...
Or maybe I do care but value my time too much (or have dealt with enough brick wall, close minded liberals) to do anything about it. Its a fine analogy BTW. I've stopped and frisked your post and found that you carry no functioning rhetorical weapons. You're free to go. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 08/30/17 12:10:11 AM #50: |
The Domino analogy is bad because Domino's skin is a result of experimentation done on her as a child. Has nothing to do with her race. In fact I'm fairly certain it's never been shown what her race actually is, because it doesn't matter to the character.
At least with the original example the character's race could potentially matter to the plot! Domino's thing visually is the striking contrast of the literal white skin and black spots and the movie version is just inverting that it seems. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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