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Antifar
08/26/17 8:25:50 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/charlottesville-protest-police.html

As demonstrators clashed near a downtown park here two weeks ago, a white nationalist protester in a bulletproof vest turned, pointed a pistol toward the crowd and fired a single shot at the ground, in the direction of a black man wielding an improvised torch.

To make his escape, a video recording shows, the armed protester strolled past a line of about a dozen state police troopers who were safely positioned about 10 feet away behind two metal barricades. None of them budged.

“We all heard it and ran — I know damn well they heard it,” said Rosia Parker, a community activist in Charlottesville. “They never moved.”

Police had a suspect in the shooting in custody on Saturday morning, according to an official familiar with the investigation, who requested anonymity to provide information not yet public. But residents are still demanding to know why officers did not act in real time as heavily armed people fought and a car sped toward a crowd, killing a woman. So stark was the police failure to intervene, many participants in the protest and counterprotests believe it was by design.

Now, as white-power organizations declare their intentions to rally in cities around the country, police departments are looking to Charlottesville for hints on how to keep the peace — and what mistakes to avoid. Charlottesville, too, is seeking answers. The city announced on Friday that it had hired a former United States attorney to evaluate the planning and response to three white supremacist events in the city this year. The final rally, a show of power by white supremacist groups, was ostensibly held to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, the Confederate general.

Officials have insisted that no “stand down” order was issued, and a state police spokeswoman said troopers did not hear the shot. But many people suspect the inaction was deliberate, because just a month earlier, the police were heavily criticized for responding harshly at a Ku Klux Klan rally where anti-Klan protesters were sprayed with tear gas and arrested.

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Webmaster4531
08/26/17 8:27:28 PM
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Antifar posted...
Rosia Parker

That's a good name.
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billcom6
08/26/17 8:28:19 PM
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What about the alt left?????
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08/27/17 2:28:24 AM
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SK8T3R215
08/27/17 2:31:45 AM
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pointed a pistol toward the crowd and fired a single shot at the ground, in the direction of a black man wielding an improvised torch.

Fired into the ground at a crowd.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/27/17 2:32:11 AM
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SK8T3R215 posted...
pointed a pistol toward the crowd and fired a single shot at the ground, in the direction of a black man wielding an improvised torch.

Fired into the ground at a crowd.

You don't know a whole lot about firearms safety, do you?
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gunplagirl
08/27/17 2:32:16 AM
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Police sanctioned white supremacy

They did nothing to interfere despite being feet away and clearly hearing it
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Vertania
08/27/17 2:32:45 AM
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Antifar posted...
New footage of man firing gun into crowd at Charlottesville rally

Antifar posted...
fired a single shot at the ground
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SK8T3R215
08/27/17 2:33:24 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
pointed a pistol toward the crowd and fired a single shot at the ground, in the direction of a black man wielding an improvised torch.

Fired into the ground at a crowd.

You don't know a whole lot about firearms safety, do you?


Topic title vs article is misleading.
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gunplagirl
08/27/17 2:34:14 AM
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Vertania posted...
Antifar posted...
New footage of man firing gun into crowd at Charlottesville rally

Antifar posted...
fired a single shot at the ground

So did you know that bullets can ricochet?
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cjsdowg
08/27/17 2:34:37 AM
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A black 12 year old is killed with in 2 seconds by the police, a white guys shots at people and just walks away.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 2:36:38 AM
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Lol @ the woman who thinks the cops all would have heard that and instantly known exactly what that was. It was a single 9mm gunshot in a super crowded and loud area.
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gunplagirl
08/27/17 2:38:24 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Lol @ the woman who thinks the cops all would have heard that and instantly known exactly what that was. It was a single 9mm gunshot in a super crowded and loud area.

You sound like somebody who has never heard a gun fire before
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 2:40:31 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Lol @ the woman who thinks the cops all would have heard that and instantly known exactly what that was. It was a single 9mm gunshot in a super crowded and loud area.

You sound like somebody who has never heard a gun fire before


I've shot 4-5 different guns in my lifetime actually. They sound very different depending on the type of gun and the caliber.
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Questionmarktarius
08/27/17 2:59:16 AM
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improvised torch?
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Esrac
08/27/17 3:03:01 AM
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It was wrong of him to discharge his firearm and the police probably should have reacted, but are we going to ignore the guy he fired toward was brandishing an improvised flamethrower like he wanted to set someone on fire?
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Esrac
08/27/17 3:03:53 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
improvised torch?


He was using a lighter and some kind of aerosol can to project fire at the crowd of alt-right protestors a few feet away from him.
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cjsdowg
08/27/17 3:12:36 AM
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Esrac posted...
It was wrong of him to discharge his firearm and the police probably should have reacted, but are we going to ignore the guy he fired toward was brandishing an improvised flamethrower like he wanted to set someone on fire?


He was holding crowd that was attacking him and a old white guy.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/18/corey-long-protest-photo-charlottesville-sot-ctn.cnn/video/playlists/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally/

But yeah people throwing out racial slurs and shooting at people, yea lets do our best to down play what they did by bull shitting about someone else.
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HydroCannabinol
08/27/17 3:22:28 AM
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"Post here to privately tutor me for free"

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HydroCannabinol
08/27/17 3:22:58 AM
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I disable java, not even gonna repost
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 3:23:42 AM
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He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.
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itachi15243
08/27/17 3:28:54 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.


He could've very easy missed in a massive crowd like that and caused a lot of people to be set on fire or someone could've been shot

He just wanted to play hero.
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cjsdowg
08/27/17 3:29:48 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.


Wow the CE would defend anyone .This dude yelling racial slurs firing guns at people. and they guy with the "flame Throwing' was protecting a old white guy form crowd of Nazis . but yeah this is the CE where white makes right.
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Esrac
08/27/17 3:30:09 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Esrac posted...
It was wrong of him to discharge his firearm and the police probably should have reacted, but are we going to ignore the guy he fired toward was brandishing an improvised flamethrower like he wanted to set someone on fire?


He was holding crowd that was attacking him and a old white guy.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/08/18/corey-long-protest-photo-charlottesville-sot-ctn.cnn/video/playlists/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally/

But yeah people throwing out racial slurs and shooting at people, yea lets do our best to down play what they did by bull shitting about someone else.


Do you have a source better than the guy brandishing the flamethrower? Because obviously he's going to recount the order of events in a way that makes him look better.

He says the gun was fired at the ground first, but in the video posted first in this topic, the gun clearly wasn't pointed or fired until after he started spouting flames at the white supremacist crowd. Until you have some video of the moments before that include a prior gun shot, Corey Long's account is false.

Also, pointing out that he did something wrong too isn't downplaying the other guy discharging a firearm in a threatening manner. Fuck off with that bullshit.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 3:31:04 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
He just wanted to play hero.


Same with the flamethrower guy. Except the guy with the gun probably at least had more training with the weapon, and it's also a more reliable device in general. That homemade flamethrower? What if the guy messes up and blows it all up? He could accidentally kill himself and others. At least with the gun, it was manufactured and tested in a factory with actual safety standards.

They were both reckless, but don't pretend like the flamethrower guy isn't being just as dangerous if not even more dangerous than the guy with the gun.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 3:31:36 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.


Wow the CE would defend anyone .This dude yelling racial slurs firing guns at people. and they guy with the "flame Throwing' was protecting a old white guy form crowd of Nazis . but yeah this is the CE where white makes right.


Actually for me this is much more about the Second Amendment, I couldn't care less about skin color.
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cjsdowg
08/27/17 3:34:04 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Same with the flamethrower guy. Except the guy with the gun probably at least had more training with the weapon, and it's also a more reliable device in general. That homemade flamethrower? What if the guy messes up and blows it all up? He could accidentally kill himself and others. At least with the gun, it was manufactured and tested in a factory with actual safety standards.

They were both reckless, but don't pretend like the flamethrower guy isn't being just as dangerous if not even more dangerous than the guy with the gun.



Yeah the guy shooting in a crowd then running walking away shows...so much fucking training .
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itachi15243
08/27/17 3:34:30 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
itachi15243 posted...
He just wanted to play hero.


Same with the flamethrower guy. Except the guy with the gun probably at least had more training with the weapon, and it's also a more reliable device in general. That homemade flamethrower? What if the guy messes up and blows it all up? He could accidentally kill himself and others. At least with the gun, it was manufactured and tested in a factory with actual safety standards.

They were both reckless, but don't pretend like the flamethrower guy isn't being just as dangerous if not even more dangerous than the guy with the gun.


The guy with the gun could've also caused it to blow up is my point.

They're both equally stupid and dangerous, but the guy who actually pulled the trigger went a bit further than the guy who just had the Improvised flamethrower.
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Bio1590
08/27/17 3:35:17 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.

That he recklessly pointed his gun in the direction of a group of people and pulled the trigger?

Flamethrower guy or not that's literally all you need to know.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 3:38:01 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.

That he recklessly pointed his gun in the direction of a group of people and pulled the trigger?

Flamethrower guy or not that's literally all you need to know.


No, I do think it's important that the context is given.

I am fine with the consensus that they were both equally dangerous by using weapons in a crowd like this. What I don't agree with is giving the flamethrower guy a pass of some sort, that was most definitely as potentially dangerous as what the gun guy did.
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cjsdowg
08/27/17 3:38:53 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
I am fine with the consensus that they were both equally dangerous by using weapons in a crowd like this. What I don't agree with is giving the flamethrower guy a pass of some sort, that was most definitely as potentially dangerous as what the gun guy did.


Yeah defending a old white guy is just as bad as yelling racial slurs why firing guns at people. you people just can't ever say . Damn that bigot was violent and should go to jail. It always have be some shit that comes with it.
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Crazyman93
08/27/17 3:39:26 AM
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ImAMarvel posted...
B-b-b-but it's the leftists who are the violent ones

also how the fuck did the police not do a single fucking thing

Both sides were violent, escalating into someone using a car as a battering ram. And there is no reason the police should have let it escalate that far.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 3:39:45 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
I am fine with the consensus that they were both equally dangerous by using weapons in a crowd like this. What I don't agree with is giving the flamethrower guy a pass of some sort, that was most definitely as potentially dangerous as what the gun guy did.


Yeah defending a old white guy is just as bad as yelling racial slurs why firing guns at people.


Racial slurs shouldn't even be relevant in a discussion where people were using deadly weapons in close quarters combat.
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Lordsai
08/27/17 3:51:23 AM
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Vertania posted...
Antifar posted...
New footage of man firing gun into crowd at Charlottesville rally

Antifar posted...
fired a single shot at the ground
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Bio1590
08/27/17 3:52:10 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.

That he recklessly pointed his gun in the direction of a group of people and pulled the trigger?

Flamethrower guy or not that's literally all you need to know.


No, I do think it's important that the context is given.

I am fine with the consensus that they were both equally dangerous by using weapons in a crowd like this. What I don't agree with is giving the flamethrower guy a pass of some sort, that was most definitely as potentially dangerous as what the gun guy did.

The context isn't important because it has zero relevance in relation to the legality of what he did.

No one is goving flamethrower guy a pass and if anything they should probably be charged to.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 3:53:22 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.

That he recklessly pointed his gun in the direction of a group of people and pulled the trigger?

Flamethrower guy or not that's literally all you need to know.


No, I do think it's important that the context is given.

I am fine with the consensus that they were both equally dangerous by using weapons in a crowd like this. What I don't agree with is giving the flamethrower guy a pass of some sort, that was most definitely as potentially dangerous as what the gun guy did.

The context isn't important because it has zero relevance in relation to the legality of what he did.

No one is goving flamethrower guy a pass and if anything they should probably be charged to.


Actually I do think it would be relevant in a court case, like the guy's defense attorney could use it as mitigating factors to get a charged reduced from say attempted murder down to something far less serious via the self defense argument. Let's see what he ends up being charged with.
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Mal_Fet
08/27/17 3:54:45 AM
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Won't someone think of the poor victim firing an improvised blowtorch around???
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cjsdowg
08/27/17 3:57:17 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...


Actually I do think it would be relevant in a court case, like the guy's defense attorney could use it as mitigating factors to get a charged reduced from say attempted murder down to something far less serious via the self defense argument. Let's see what he ends up being charged with.




So he is feet away from a flame and he fires at someone gun cross other people. And you suggest mitigating factors .
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itachi15243
08/27/17 4:01:18 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
He fired a warning shot at a guy with a flamethrower. Still pretty reckless given the crowd, but to present this without that context gives an inaccurate impression of what happened.

That he recklessly pointed his gun in the direction of a group of people and pulled the trigger?

Flamethrower guy or not that's literally all you need to know.


No, I do think it's important that the context is given.

I am fine with the consensus that they were both equally dangerous by using weapons in a crowd like this. What I don't agree with is giving the flamethrower guy a pass of some sort, that was most definitely as potentially dangerous as what the gun guy did.

The context isn't important because it has zero relevance in relation to the legality of what he did.

No one is goving flamethrower guy a pass and if anything they should probably be charged to.


Actually I do think it would be relevant in a court case, like the guy's defense attorney could use it as mitigating factors to get a charged reduced from say attempted murder down to something far less serious via the self defense argument. Let's see what he ends up being charged with.


Self defense only works if flamethrower guy is proven to be eminent danger.

This man chose to fire his gun that could've killed or created a panic that killed many. As soon as he preemptively fired, he became the immediate danger in that situation.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 4:05:21 AM
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Well let's leave it to the lawyers to work out the charges, but I bet he doesn't get charged with something like attempted murder but more like illegal discharge of a weapon.
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Dark_Spiret
08/27/17 4:08:07 AM
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all i see is two idiots who put peoples lives at risk.
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SweetieBelle462
08/27/17 4:09:42 AM
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He was defending himself from the violent antifa hooligan
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itachi15243
08/27/17 4:12:15 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Well let's leave it to the lawyers to work out the charges, but I bet he doesn't get charged with something like attempted murder but more like illegal discharge of a weapon.



I'd be fine as long as he gets his any sort of concealed carry and handguns taken, and some jail time. I doubt he'd get attempted murder no matter what. Maybe attempted assault with a deadly weapon.
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Mal_Fet
08/27/17 4:36:07 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Well let's leave it to the lawyers to work out the charges, but I bet he doesn't get charged with something like attempted murder but more like illegal discharge of a weapon.



I'd be fine as long as he gets his any sort of concealed carry and handguns taken, and some jail time. I doubt he'd get attempted murder no matter what. Maybe attempted assault with a deadly weapon.

Given how the guy he was reacting to was firing a blowtorch around, I'm really skeptical this guy will get any serious charges to stick.
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Questionmarktarius
08/27/17 4:40:01 AM
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Mal_Fet posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Well let's leave it to the lawyers to work out the charges, but I bet he doesn't get charged with something like attempted murder but more like illegal discharge of a weapon.



I'd be fine as long as he gets his any sort of concealed carry and handguns taken, and some jail time. I doubt he'd get attempted murder no matter what. Maybe attempted assault with a deadly weapon.

Given how the guy he was reacting to was firing a blowtorch around, I'm really skeptical this guy will get any serious charges to stick.

Plea down to "public discharge of firearm" is likely.
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Sativa_Rose
08/27/17 4:40:31 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Well let's leave it to the lawyers to work out the charges, but I bet he doesn't get charged with something like attempted murder but more like illegal discharge of a weapon.



I'd be fine as long as he gets his any sort of concealed carry and handguns taken, and some jail time. I doubt he'd get attempted murder no matter what. Maybe attempted assault with a deadly weapon.

Given how the guy he was reacting to was firing a blowtorch around, I'm really skeptical this guy will get any serious charges to stick.

Plea down to "public discharge of firearm" is likely.


That is my prediction.
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itachi15243
08/27/17 4:48:17 AM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
itachi15243 posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
Well let's leave it to the lawyers to work out the charges, but I bet he doesn't get charged with something like attempted murder but more like illegal discharge of a weapon.



I'd be fine as long as he gets his any sort of concealed carry and handguns taken, and some jail time. I doubt he'd get attempted murder no matter what. Maybe attempted assault with a deadly weapon.

Given how the guy he was reacting to was firing a blowtorch around, I'm really skeptical this guy will get any serious charges to stick.

Plea down to "public discharge of firearm" is likely.


That is my prediction.


Like I said, I'm cool with it as long as he looses the permit to carry, and gets like 6 months in jail or something.
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