Current Events > US massacres 100 civilians in Raqqa; women and children among dead.

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ShiningFetus
08/22/17 4:22:30 PM
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/08/raqqa-led-strikes-kill-100-civilians-48-hours-170822073525973.html

This will certainly get proportional coverage in comparison to Spain.
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Doe
08/22/17 4:23:11 PM
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fan357
08/22/17 4:24:09 PM
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Gotta make sure we keep some conflict going!
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Tryhaptaward
08/22/17 4:24:24 PM
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Doe posted...
aljazeera


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good job pushing your agenda you shitposter
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:24:53 PM
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When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?
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ShiningFetus
08/22/17 4:25:51 PM
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Tryhaptaward posted...
Doe posted...
aljazeera


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good job pushing your agenda you shitposter


Hi, state apologist.
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Doe
08/22/17 4:25:54 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS
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pikachupwnage
08/22/17 4:26:37 PM
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Tragic but not sure how you can take a city from lunatics who will strap suicide bombs to themselves or women and children without some civilian losses
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pinky0926
08/22/17 4:28:36 PM
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War is hell.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:29:26 PM
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Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 4:30:18 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Tragic but not sure how you can take a city from lunatics who will strap suicide bombs to themselves or women and children without some civilian losses

Airstrikes don't have anything to do with suicide bombs, though
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:30:25 PM
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Bandit_Keith
08/22/17 4:30:28 PM
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I honestly don't know how else we could fight them. They hide smokers the children and the women. Force them to suicide bomb. Put them in harm's way under threat of death but end up getting them killed anyway. And then point to the US as evil for killing the children that ISIL themselves use as human shields. I really don't know what to do. But doing nothing just lets them grow much larger and faster.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:32:31 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Tragic but not sure how you can take a city from lunatics who will strap suicide bombs to themselves or women and children without some civilian losses

Airstrikes don't have anything to do with suicide bombs, though

Because you can't suicide bomb a jet flying over you.
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ShiningFetus
08/22/17 4:35:37 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
I honestly don't know how else we could fight them. They hide smokers the children and the women. Force them to suicide bomb. Put them in harm's way under threat of death but end up getting them killed anyway. And then point to the US as evil for killing the children that ISIL themselves use as human shields. I really don't know what to do. But doing nothing just lets them grow much larger and faster.



It also shows how US sees no value in preserving brown life. If the hostages were America/Euro, would America be so easily trigger happy? Doubt it.
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justaguy3492
08/22/17 4:35:42 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.





What an awful opinion. It's genuinely frightening that I walk on the same Earth as people like you.
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pikachupwnage
08/22/17 4:37:10 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.


The fuck?
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:38:55 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.


The fuck?

So you would rather they strap bombs to themselves and kill even more people?
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 4:41:43 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.


The fuck?

So you would rather they strap bombs to themselves and kill even more people?

You are dangerously close to advocating that we kill every woman and child in the Middle East
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:41:45 PM
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ShiningFetus posted...
It also shows how US sees no value in preserving brown life. If the hostages were America/Euro, would America be so easily trigger happy? Doubt it.

Ok, let's flip it. This is now a nazi stronghold in the US. They use the exact same tactics isis use. Now how would you handle it?
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:42:50 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.


The fuck?

So you would rather they strap bombs to themselves and kill even more people?

You are dangerously close to advocating that we kill every woman and child in the Middle East

Not every woman and child in the middle east live in a terrorsit stronghold.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 4:43:30 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
08/22/17 4:43:47 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
pinky0926 posted...
War is hell.

https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=GUeBMwn_eYc



You don't think a unified Korea under the Kim's would be better than what we have now do you?

I'm not exactly pro-war but a lot of the time it's better than letting despots steam roll civilians.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:44:13 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
But you're perfectly fine with killing every woman and child in Raqqa.

Where did I say every one?
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Fam_Fam
08/22/17 4:44:41 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.


The fuck?

So you would rather they strap bombs to themselves and kill even more people?

You are dangerously close to advocating that we kill every woman and child in the Middle East

Not every woman and child in the middle east live in a terrorsit stronghold.


so kill all the women and children in terrorist strongholds to minimize damage?
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Kineth
08/22/17 4:44:54 PM
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:45:37 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
pinky0926 posted...
War is hell.

https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=GUeBMwn_eYc



You don't think a unified Korea under the Kim's would be better than what we have now do you?

I'm not exactly pro-war but a lot of the time it's better than letting despots steam roll civilians.

That wasn't the point of that video. The point was his quote.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:47:19 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
so kill all the women and children in terrorist strongholds to minimize damage?

No, unless they don't surrender. The point is to bomb them to submission.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 4:48:11 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
But you're perfectly fine with killing every woman and child in Raqqa.

Where did I say every one?

How do we tell the ISIS operatives apart from the civilians? Better to just kill them all and let God sort them out, right?
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Bandit_Keith
08/22/17 4:49:04 PM
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ShiningFetus posted...
It also shows how US sees no value in preserving brown life. If the hostages were America/Euro, would America be so easily trigger happy? Doubt it.

It doesn't show that at all. That's your personal belief, and you are welcome to it. But we are at eat with s terrorist orgsnization that plans to kill everyone who doesn't agree with their specific set of beliefs. When Americans have attempted to do the same thing, the government put them on the same list and when they become violent, the government puts them down.

We almost never get as violent and bloodthirsty as ISIL, but when Americans do clash with the law, we get stuff like Waco and Ruby Ridge.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 4:51:49 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
But you're perfectly fine with killing every woman and child in Raqqa.

Where did I say every one?

How do we tell the ISIS operatives apart from the civilians? Better to just kill them all and let God sort them out, right?

So your answer is to let them go so they can blow up even more people?
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Flintgrandad
08/22/17 4:53:41 PM
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justaguy3492 posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
Doe posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
When isis women and children over there regularly strap bombs to themselves and blow up people can they really be called civilians?

I didn't know children make the decision to strap bombs to themselves and devote themselves to ISIS

Well, unfortunately it is either put them down now or let them be used to kill even more people. There is no way to stop it, only minimize the damage.





What an awful opinion. It's genuinely frightening that I walk on the same Earth as people like you.


This is like the official definition everyone uses for why Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 5:01:30 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
But you're perfectly fine with killing every woman and child in Raqqa.

Where did I say every one?

How do we tell the ISIS operatives apart from the civilians? Better to just kill them all and let God sort them out, right?

So your answer is to let them go so they can blow up even more people?

You didn't answer my question. How do we determine which ones are civilians and which ones are ISIS operatives so we can decide which ones to let go in the first place?
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:04:18 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
How do we determine which ones are civilians and which ones are ISIS operatives so we can decide which ones to let go in the first place?

There is no way, so we take them all. But before that we need to destroy their infrastructure and make them surrender.

Now answer my question.
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Bio1590
08/22/17 5:05:02 PM
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Well that account isn't going to last long.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 5:07:47 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
How do we determine which ones are civilians and which ones are ISIS operatives so we can decide which ones to let go in the first place?

There is no way, so we take them all. But before that we need to destroy their infrastructure and make them surrender.

But then we run the risk of them feigning surrender to detonate their bombs when troops come to get them. Seems awfully risky.

Hell, if you're just going to take them all, why bother with the infrastructure? Why not just go directly for them and waste less time and ordnance?
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:09:13 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
But then we run the risk of them feigning surrender to detonate their bombs when troops come to get them. Seems awfully risky.

So then we should kill them all? Make up your mind.
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 5:13:25 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
But then we run the risk of them feigning surrender to detonate their bombs when troops come to get them. Seems awfully risky.

So then we should kill them all? Make up your mind.

Well now it seems like you're just arguing against your own viewpoint
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:13:47 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
"We should kill their women and children before they do" is a really fucked up strategy.

Yet not one person here seems to be able to come up with a better one that would lead to less casualties.
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:15:05 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
But then we run the risk of them feigning surrender to detonate their bombs when troops come to get them. Seems awfully risky.

So then we should kill them all? Make up your mind.

Well now it seems like you're just arguing against your own viewpoint

Well, you said that if they surrender it might be just a ploy. So which is it?
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KillerKhan420
08/22/17 5:15:47 PM
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You want to champion them? Go over there Lawrence of Arabia and see what happens
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:16:44 PM
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All these armchair generals but they don't seem to have a plan that works better.
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Colorahdo
08/22/17 5:21:20 PM
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I don't think it's fair to compare Spain to Syria. Spain is big news because it's a peaceful, developed country and war and terrorism are shocking, not the norm.
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TheVipaGTS
08/22/17 5:23:50 PM
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So whose alt is HashBrown? I refuse to believe someone new here can have an opinion as dumb as that.
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Axiom
08/22/17 5:25:52 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...

Jesus this guy is actually saying fuck the civilians let's kill everyone
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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:26:24 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
So whose alt is HashBrown? I refuse to believe someone new here can have an opinion as dumb as that.

So what is the answer? What is your better strategy?
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UnholyMudcrab
08/22/17 5:26:39 PM
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HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
But then we run the risk of them feigning surrender to detonate their bombs when troops come to get them. Seems awfully risky.

So then we should kill them all? Make up your mind.

Well now it seems like you're just arguing against your own viewpoint

Well, you said that if they surrender it might be just a ploy. So which is it?

Well, the solution is to just kill them all, obviously. You've been trying to argue that the entire topic, so why are you having trouble understanding it now?
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Axiom
08/22/17 5:27:44 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
So whose alt is HashBrown? I refuse to believe someone new here can have an opinion as dumb as that.

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HashBrownAgain
08/22/17 5:28:48 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Well, the solution is to just kill them all, obviously. You've been trying to argue that the entire topic, so why are you having trouble understanding it now?

I wasn't, just wanted to hear it from you.

Axiom posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...

Jesus this guy is actually saying fuck the civilians let's kill everyone

Is that not how we ended a long and bloody war with Japan?
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