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WastelandCowboy
08/20/17 11:54:22 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/20/asia/us-navy-destroyer-collision-singapore/index.html

(CNN)Ten US Navy sailors are missing after a US Navy guided-missile destroyer collided with an oil tanker east of Singapore early Monday, the fourth incident/accident in Asia waters involving a US warship in 2017.

The Navy's 7th Fleet said the USS John S. McCain collided with the merchant vessel Alnic MC while the destroyer was making its way to a port visit in Singapore. The collision was reported at 5:24 am local time, as the ship was passing near to the Malacca Strait, one of the world's most congested shipping routes.

A Navy official told CNN the McCain was fighting flooding in several places after sustaining damage to

its aft port (rear left) side and that it had limited propulsion and electrical power. However, the Navy said the McCain was currently steaming under its own power to port.

The McCain is equipped with the Aegis missile defense system, which has been touted as a possible counter to any North Korean missile launch. If it is out of action after Monday's collision, it would be at least the second of 10 Aegis warships based in Japan to be unavailable for deployment.

Carl Schuster, a former director of operations at the US Pacific Command's Joint Intelligence Center, said the oil tanker would have been at least three times bigger than the USS John McCain.

"Oil tankers are huge and it takes miles for them to change course. Malacca Strait is the most congested shipping area in the world. The most narrow point is only 2 nautical miles across," he said.

"When you're going into a congested channel, you're supposed to be very alert, track ships around you to a very meticulous degree."

In addition to the 10 missing sailors, the Navy said five were injured in the collision.

Search and rescue efforts are under way, the Navy statement said, with helicopters and Marine Corps
Osprey aircraft from the amphibious assault ship USS America responding. Singaporean ships and helicopters were also responding, the Navy added.

Malaysia's Navy said on Twitter two of its vessels and an aircraft had joined the search for the missing sailors.

A US Navy official told CNN the McCain had experienced a loss of steering before the collision, but that steering had been regained.

The US Navy statement did not give information on the status of the oil tanker.

Merchant marine websites describe the Alnic MC as a 30,000-ton, 600-foot-long oil tanker flying a Liberian flag.

The McCain is 505 feet long and displaces about 9,000 tons. Its homeport is Yokosuka, Japan.

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WastelandCowboy
08/20/17 11:54:44 PM
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The McCain collision marks the fourth incident involving a US Navy warship in the Pacific this year.

On June 17, the USS Fitzgerald collided with a container ship off the coast of Japan. That collision resulted in the deaths of seven US sailors. It will be transported to the US for repairs.

On May 9, the guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain was struck by a small fishing boat off the Korean Peninsula.

And in late January, the guided-missile cruiser USS Antietam ran aground while trying to anchor in Tokyo Bay.

All four of the US warships are equipped with the Aegis missile defense system.

In a report on the Fitzgerald collision released just last week, the Navy it would review its training and qualification procedures.

"The collision was avoidable and both ships demonstrated poor seamanship. Within Fitzgerald, flawed watch stander teamwork and inadequate leadership contributed to the collision," a 7th Fleet statement said.

The USS John S. McCain is named for the father and grandfather of US Sen. John McCain. Both of McCain's relatives were US Navy admirals. The senator was a captain in the US Navy.

Earlier this month, the McCain carried out a freedom-of-navigation operation in the South China Sea, sailing within six nautical miles of Mischief Reef, one of the artificial islands built by China in the Spratlys.
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Zeus
08/21/17 12:06:53 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
The McCain is equipped with the Aegis missile defense system, which has been touted as a possible counter to any North Korean missile launch. If it is out of action after Monday's collision, it would be at least the second of 10 Aegis warships based in Japan to be unavailable for deployment.


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AwesomeTurtwig
08/21/17 12:16:28 AM
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Someone is mentioning aegis. I'm relevant, but this sucks. Wonder if they radar room was damaged.
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yutterh
08/21/17 12:21:14 AM
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Zeus posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
The McCain is equipped with the Aegis missile defense system, which has been touted as a possible counter to any North Korean missile launch. If it is out of action after Monday's collision, it would be at least the second of 10 Aegis warships based in Japan to be unavailable for deployment.


Conspiracy!


Real talk, I don't think these are accidents.
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WhiskeyDisk
08/21/17 1:30:01 AM
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yutterh posted...
Zeus posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
The McCain is equipped with the Aegis missile defense system, which has been touted as a possible counter to any North Korean missile launch. If it is out of action after Monday's collision, it would be at least the second of 10 Aegis warships based in Japan to be unavailable for deployment.


Conspiracy!


Real talk, I don't think these are accidents.



I don't think you're wrong as such. How in the hell are so many of our ships getting in collisions these days at all? Isn't aegis enough to prevent anything bigger than a seagull from getting within range of our ships without getting shredded? How are things like tankers "sneaking up" on our ships. I can kind of understand how something like the Cole incident happened where it was a tiny rubber dingy filled with explosives, but I've been sailing in the Cape many times and you can see the "Toyota hauler" coming from miles away day or night. How are our warships colliding with massive civilian ships at all?
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yutterh
08/21/17 1:33:24 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
yutterh posted...
Zeus posted...
WastelandCowboy posted...
The McCain is equipped with the Aegis missile defense system, which has been touted as a possible counter to any North Korean missile launch. If it is out of action after Monday's collision, it would be at least the second of 10 Aegis warships based in Japan to be unavailable for deployment.


Conspiracy!


Real talk, I don't think these are accidents.



I don't think you're wrong as such. How in the hell are so many of our ships getting in collisions these days at all? Isn't aegis enough to prevent anything bigger than a seagull from getting within range of our ships without getting shredded? How are things like tankers "sneaking up" on our ships. I can kind of understand how something like the Cole incident happened where it was a tiny rubber dingy filled with explosives, but I've been sailing in the Cape many times and you can see the "Toyota hauler" coming from miles away day or night. How are our warships colliding with massive civilian ships at all?


Exactly, either we have some super incompetent people controlling these warships or someone is directly interfering with them. If they were random ships that be one thing, but our Aegis ships? I see a pattern here and i hope our military notices it and puts a stop to it.
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darkknight109
08/21/17 5:42:52 AM
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More blood on Trump's hands.
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Cacciato
08/21/17 7:18:26 AM
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This was one makes more sense than the Fitzgerald at least.
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