Poll of the Day > Why is "L" from Death Note black now?

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TheOrangeMisfit
08/18/17 1:05:49 PM
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KevinceKostner
08/18/17 1:07:05 PM
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White genocide that's why
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Blighboy
08/18/17 1:17:37 PM
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Why is Light white?
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TheOrangeMisfit
08/18/17 1:18:59 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Why is Light white?


Because light is usually white, unless its dark light.
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Unfernal_Server
08/18/17 1:22:12 PM
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He's also no longer a cartoon.
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ssj4supervegeta
08/18/17 1:24:56 PM
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why aren't all of them japanese?
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Ogurisama
08/18/17 1:28:37 PM
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ssj4supervegeta posted...
why aren't all of them japanese?

L was only 1/4 japanese

He was also 1/4 british and 2 other things i believe

But he was 3/4 European
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green dragon
08/18/17 1:32:40 PM
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Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?
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VeeVees
08/18/17 1:32:57 PM
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why is light a wuss
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Blighboy
08/18/17 1:33:55 PM
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green dragon posted...
Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?

My dream is to make an anime adaptation set in America and cast every character as a minority.
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FourthDimension
08/18/17 1:36:14 PM
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Because who gives a shit
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Ogurisama
08/18/17 1:39:43 PM
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green dragon posted...
Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?

Only roles i would be upset are roles representing a historical person.

Like casting an Asian to play King Louie the 14th, or a white guy cast as Martin Luther King
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agesboy
08/18/17 1:47:33 PM
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green dragon posted...
Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?

probably because japan isn't actually racially diverse as the US is, like at all

how many japanese people have even seen a black person irl
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FourthDimension
08/18/17 1:51:17 PM
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This takes place in Japan?

In which case the question should be why aren't they Japanese and speaking Japanese?
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green dragon
08/18/17 1:57:30 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
Only roles i would be upset are roles representing a historical person.

Like casting an Asian to play King Louie the 14th, or a white guy cast as Martin Luther King

Ok yeah, you're totally right about that. I meant for fictional characters.

I kiiiinda understand the whole "issue" about Michael b Jordan playing Johnny storm in that fantastic four movie. The invisible woman was still white, and the Johnny and Susan (that's her name right) are siblings. They kinda changed a small insignificant part of their back stories. If Susan was also black, that would make sense.

agesboy posted...
probably because japan isn't actually racially diverse as the US is, like at all

how many japanese people have even seen a black person irl

I thought this takes place in the USA

Blighboy posted...
My dream is to make an anime adaptation set in America and cast every character as a minority

Who are you casting me as?
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Zeus
08/18/17 2:01:46 PM
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Because diversity for the sake of diversity? idk, given that "L" was an orphan with no strong ethnic connections, I'm probably less bothered by this than other choices. I'm more concerned by the fact that neither Light nor "L" can act.
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MacrossSpecial
08/18/17 2:02:19 PM
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They probably did it just to specifically upset you.
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agesboy
08/18/17 2:02:44 PM
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oh wow, it is set in the US

that's kind of really weird

light turner lmfao
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Blighboy
08/18/17 2:09:37 PM
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green dragon posted...
Who are you casting me as?

You will be the childhood friend girl. Fan favourite love interest.
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St_Kevin
08/18/17 2:12:44 PM
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Racist
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green dragon
08/18/17 2:13:46 PM
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Zeus posted...
Because diversity for the sake of diversity

I don't get why people say this.

It's a live action movie. Maybe he was just a better actor than all of the others
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VeeVees
08/18/17 2:18:29 PM
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the agencies must've send them some pretty shit garbage then
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Zikten
08/18/17 2:23:38 PM
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My biggest gripe is that it's a movie and not a series

Also I heard light refers to himself as a villain. He would never admit he was a villain
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Blighboy
08/18/17 3:50:01 PM
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green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
Because diversity for the sake of diversity

I don't get why people say this.

It's a live action movie. Maybe he was just a better actor than all of the others

From what I saw he looks like he's playing a completely different character from L

But that's true for Light as well

It's just not a good adaptation, but I don't think the actor's skin colour has anything to do with it.
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Melon_Master
08/18/17 3:58:48 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
green dragon posted...
Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?

Only roles i would be upset are roles representing a historical person.

Like casting an Asian to play King Louie the 14th, or a white guy cast as Martin Luther King

I was Muhammad Ali for an AP English report in high school.. And no, I did not go in black face.
Looking back, I'm surprised my teacher allowed me to choose him, knowing I'd have to do a Q&A in character. :x
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Kyuubi4269
08/18/17 4:48:49 PM
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Why is L wearing a cover over his face? And why is Light now Paul Walker?

Is Death Note a cannonball run across New York?
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TheCyborgNinja
08/18/17 4:51:26 PM
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Black is kind of progressive, but they should've made him a mixed race non-binary trans person who identifies as a cat.
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Zeus
08/18/17 5:45:25 PM
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agesboy posted...
oh wow, it is set in the US

that's kind of really weird

light turner lmfao


It's kinda typical with these adaptations. And no matter where it's set you have some leeway with "L" because he's portrayed as a foreigner (despite looking pretty Asian in the manga, etc).

green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
Because diversity for the sake of diversity

I don't get why people say this.

It's a live action movie. Maybe he was just a better actor than all of the others


Because that's pretty much always the reason. As for his qualifications as an actor, I already noted NEITHER one can act. Clearly it wasn't a matter of going with the best choice, since you if you wanted a black actor you could grab any black man off the street, hand him a script, and he'd probably do better.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Why is L wearing a cover over his face? And why is Light now Paul Walker?


Given that Paul Walker is over a decade older and four years dead, that'd be pretty impressive. Granted, if you were going to resurrect Paul Walker, this isn't the best use of it.
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GanonsSpirit
08/18/17 5:51:15 PM
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Based on that clip, the actor chosen for L is a better fit than the one chosen for Light. Anyway, this movie is going to suck.
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Zanimar
08/18/17 6:18:37 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
L was only 1/4 japanese

He was also 1/4 british and 2 other things i believe

But he was 3/4 European


1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 3/4 = 7/4

So L is 1 3/4 of a person? I didn't know he was a conjoined twin. O.o
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Hexagon
08/18/17 6:30:05 PM
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I've never been to this board before but shouldn't there be a poll here or something?
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Kyuubi4269
08/18/17 6:31:32 PM
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Zanimar posted...
Ogurisama posted...
L was only 1/4 japanese

He was also 1/4 british and 2 other things i believe

But he was 3/4 European


1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 3/4 = 7/4

So L is 1 3/4 of a person? I didn't know he was a conjoined twin. O.o

Britain is part of Europe, dufus.
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Zanimar
08/18/17 7:13:16 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Britain is part of Europe, dufus.


Oops, my bad. x_x

So he's 1 1/2 of a person until more clarification is provided.
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Tropic_Sunset
08/18/17 7:19:21 PM
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Zanimar posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...

Britain is part of Europe, dufus.


Oops, my bad. x_x

So he's 1 1/2 of a person until more clarification is provided.

He was saying the other two things were from Europe as well.

So 1/4 Japanese, 3/4 from separate countries in Europe, one being Britain.
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Mead
08/18/17 7:43:32 PM
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green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
Because diversity for the sake of diversity

I don't get why people say this.


Because they conveniently find excuses for their bigotry
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Lokarin
08/18/17 7:46:24 PM
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Mead posted...
Because they conveniently find excuses for their bigotry


2% of the population represent 33% of media
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green dragon
08/18/17 8:12:35 PM
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Zeus posted...

Because that's pretty much always the reason

Oh yeah my bad, I forgot white people are superior actors.

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Miroku_of_Nite1
08/18/17 8:19:58 PM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mcQ6CzXo8


Because it's 2017.
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Nomak-54
08/18/17 8:22:36 PM
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I don't know what hollywood has against having actors that look like the source material but this trend needs to stop
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Hexagon
08/18/17 9:29:35 PM
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Nomak-54 posted...
I don't know what hollywood has against having actors that look like the source material but this trend needs to stop


Could it be that they're not that shallow? I mean if you need L to look like a cartoon character to enjoy a show maybe that's the viewer's problem?
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Mead
08/18/17 9:31:35 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Mead posted...
Because they conveniently find excuses for their bigotry


2% of the population represent 33% of media


I challenge you to provide a source for either of those percentages
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Kyuubi4269
08/18/17 9:36:32 PM
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Hexagon posted...
Nomak-54 posted...
I don't know what hollywood has against having actors that look like the source material but this trend needs to stop


Could it be that they're not that shallow? I mean if you need L to look like a cartoon character to enjoy a show maybe that's the viewer's problem?

It's shallow to shoehorn actors in to inappropriate roles to appease lunatics. When you're redoing a series to piggyback on its success, you don't change every fucking thing you can unless you want it to fall flat on its face.
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Hexagon
08/18/17 9:40:17 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Hexagon posted...
Nomak-54 posted...
I don't know what hollywood has against having actors that look like the source material but this trend needs to stop


Could it be that they're not that shallow? I mean if you need L to look like a cartoon character to enjoy a show maybe that's the viewer's problem?

It's shallow to shoehorn actors in to inappropriate roles to appease lunatics. When you're redoing a series to piggyback on its success, you don't change every fucking thing you can unless you want it to fall flat on its face.


Its only a shoehorn if the goal was to create a replica of the manga with live action. It was not. It is an adaption and they have creative freedom to interpret and re-interpret the source. Your argument is therefore invalid.
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Lokarin
08/18/17 9:41:33 PM
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Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
Mead posted...
Because they conveniently find excuses for their bigotry


2% of the population represent 33% of media


I challenge you to provide a source for either of those percentages


They're made up percentages for drama... Just saying that non-majority identities occupy a disproportionate number of roles in media.
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Zeus
08/18/17 10:14:06 PM
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Mead posted...
green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...
Because diversity for the sake of diversity

I don't get why people say this.


Because they conveniently find excuses for their bigotry


And racists try to write off pointless diversity as bigotry.

Lokarin posted...
Mead posted...
Because they conveniently find excuses for their bigotry


2% of the population represent 33% of media


This, but technically it's 13% for blacks.

green dragon posted...
Zeus posted...

Because that's pretty much always the reason

Oh yeah my bad, I forgot white people are superior actors.

My b


While I'm sure Gregory Peck, for instance, might be superior to women for playing Queen Elizabeth I or to blacks for playing MLK Jr, it would still look ridiculous because you're casting against the character. More importantly, the actor you're defending clearly wasn't chosen for his acting ability.
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Zeus
08/18/17 10:18:45 PM
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
Because it's 2017.


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GanonsSpirit
08/18/17 10:46:29 PM
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At any rate, it's an hour and a half long movie. Large swaths of the story will be cut, and the remainder will be butchered. L being black is insignificant compared to this.
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ssj4supervegeta
08/18/17 11:26:27 PM
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green dragon posted...
Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?

i think people just want an accurate portrayal of the thing they loved. so when there is an obvious change, the red flags start waving. at least that's my opinion.
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Life Sympathy
08/18/17 11:32:05 PM
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tKZFX27

Better?
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TheCyborgNinja
08/19/17 3:07:40 AM
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ssj4supervegeta posted...
green dragon posted...
Why do people get so upset about race/ethnicity changes?

i think people just want an accurate portrayal of the thing they loved. so when there is an obvious change, the red flags start waving. at least that's my opinion.

Yeah, if it's an improvement, people will generally come to accept it, like how Nick Fury is Samuel L. Jackson now in the main timeline, or whatever you want to call it. Sometimes mixing it up adds something, these days it's mostly "let's be progressive and make sure to check off all the diversity boxes!" There's a reason nobody ever took the BK Kids Club very seriously :P
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