Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 127: Jay Cullen and Berke Bates

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Corrik 08/17/17 5:19:36 PM #52:	Riot - a disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons acting together in a disrupting and tumultuous manner in carrying out their private purposes. Sorry. No ground to stand on. Zero. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884962239] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Riot - a disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons acting together in a disrupting and tumultuous manner in carrying out their private purposes. Sorry. No ground to stand on. Zero.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/17/17 5:27:45 PM #53:	Dictionary.com does not hold legal muster. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884962688] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Dictionary.com does not hold legal muster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charmander6000 08/17/17 5:28:25 PM #54:	Prepare to be surprised when it doesn't work --- Congratulations to BKSheikah for winning the guru <cite>charmander6000 posted [p:884962729] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Prepare to be surprised when it doesn't work</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 5:42:01 PM #55:	Corrik posted... Sorry. No ground to stand on. Zero. Just like Robert E Lee these days --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884963402] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry. No ground to stand on. Zero. </quote> Just like Robert E Lee these days</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 08/17/17 5:42:56 PM #56:	Corrik posted... Destruction of property has been deemed as violent in peace movements beforehand. It was a riot by definition. In North Carolina? Keep in mind that different states have different laws. Destruction of property tends to be considered 'disorderly' but not violent on it's own. If there had been people there calling for the statue NOT to be torn down, as far as I understand it, then you could say that they were inciting a riot and include 'violence' --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." <cite>Ashethan posted [p:884963452] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Destruction of property has been deemed as violent in peace movements beforehand. It was a riot by definition. </quote> In North Carolina? Keep in mind that different states have different laws. Destruction of property tends to be considered 'disorderly' but not violent on it's own. If there had been people there calling for the statue NOT to be torn down, as far as I understand it, then you could say that they were inciting a riot and include 'violence'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/17/17 5:44:26 PM #57:	riot Definition A concerted action: (1) made in furtherance of an express common purpose; (2) through the use or threat of violence, disorder, or terror to the public; and (3) resulting in a disturbance of the peace. Under common law, the crime of riot requires the assemblage of three or more actors. The concerted acts may be unlawful in themselves, or they may be lawful acts that are done in a violent or turbulent manner. Among the different forms that riots may take include escalated labor disputes or political demonstrations. While most riots occur in public places, they may also take place within prisons The ACTUAL legal definition of a riot. You've essentially missed requirement 2. Ironically enough. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884963529] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>riot Definition A concerted action: (1) made in furtherance of an express common purpose; (2) through the use or threat of violence, disorder, or terror to the public; and (3) resulting in a disturbance of the peace. Under common law, the crime of riot requires the assemblage of three or more actors. The concerted acts may be unlawful in themselves, or they may be lawful acts that are done in a violent or turbulent manner. Among the different forms that riots may take include escalated labor disputes or political demonstrations. While most riots occur in public places, they may also take place within prisons The ACTUAL legal definition of a riot. You've essentially missed requirement 2. Ironically enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 5:47:27 PM #58:	Did Corrik just fully believe that Dictionary.com definitions are the same thing as legal definitions THAT of all things should prove it's not worth arguing with him. That's just a level of being uneducated that he's not even trying to fix. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884963681] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Did Corrik just fully believe that Dictionary.com definitions are the same thing as legal definitions THAT of all things should prove it's not worth arguing with him. That's just a level of being uneducated that he's not even trying to fix.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 5:48:41 PM #59:	http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/bob-corker-criticizes-trump-charlottesville/index.html I know the meme is that GOPers say they're against something Trump did but don't do anything about it But I feel as though The President has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to be successful Is starting to get into personal attack territory By a GOP Senator Against a GOP President It truly is remarkable --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884963740] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/politics/bob-corker-criticizes-trump-charlottesville/index.html I know the meme is that GOPers say they're against something Trump did but don't do anything about it But I feel as though <quote>The President has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to be successful</quote> Is starting to get into personal attack territory By a GOP Senator Against a GOP President It truly is remarkable</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 08/17/17 5:49:12 PM #60:	corrik --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:884963769] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>corrik</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 08/17/17 5:49:45 PM #61:	come on --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:884963799] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>come on</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 5:51:25 PM #62:	Prosecutor Corrik: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, what exactly is a "riot?" Dictionary.com defines it as..." --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884963890] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Prosecutor Corrik: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, what exactly is a "riot?" Dictionary.com defines it as..."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 5:52:46 PM #63:	Jakyl25 posted... Prosecutor Corrik: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, what exactly is a "riot?" Dictionary.com defines it as..." It is a riot. They were charged for it because it was. Sorry you think they threw shit and giggle charges that had no bearing just cause. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884963959] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>Prosecutor Corrik: "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, what exactly is a "riot?" Dictionary.com defines it as..."</quote> It is a riot. They were charged for it because it was. Sorry you think they threw shit and giggle charges that had no bearing just cause.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 08/17/17 5:53:45 PM #64:	My wife is a defense attorney, and every time someone brings up the dictionary definition of entrapment, she looks like her head wants to explode. --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." <cite>Ashethan posted [p:884964016] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>My wife is a defense attorney, and every time someone brings up the dictionary definition of entrapment, she looks like her head wants to explode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 08/17/17 5:54:11 PM #65:	Officer Corrik: "Now, I found yinz in this drug den, filled with drug users actively doing drugs, and you had drug paraphernalia in your hand, BUT you said you were only passing through and thought this was just a rally for drug legalization. So I suppose I'll trust you, and you're free to go." (Seriously Corrik, check out the Vice mini documentary when you get a chance.) --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:884964032] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Officer Corrik: "Now, I found yinz in this drug den, filled with drug users actively doing drugs, and you had drug paraphernalia in your hand, BUT you said you were only passing through and thought this was just a rally for drug legalization. So I suppose I'll trust you, and you're free to go." (Seriously Corrik, check out the Vice mini documentary when you get a chance.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 5:54:22 PM #66:	Corrik is literally the stereotypical bleach blonde bimbo that argues with the teacher for 30 minutes because they don't get something that the entire rest of the class got long ago. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884964044] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Corrik is literally the stereotypical bleach blonde bimbo that argues with the teacher for 30 minutes because they don't get something that the entire rest of the class got long ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 5:56:09 PM #67:	SupremeZero posted... riot Definition A concerted action: (1) made in furtherance of an express common purpose; (2) through the use or threat of violence, disorder, or terror to the public; and (3) resulting in a disturbance of the peace. Under common law, the crime of riot requires the assemblage of three or more actors. The concerted acts may be unlawful in themselves, or they may be lawful acts that are done in a violent or turbulent manner. Among the different forms that riots may take include escalated labor disputes or political demonstrations. While most riots occur in public places, they may also take place within prisons The ACTUAL legal definition of a riot. You've essentially missed requirement 2. Ironically enough. No you didn't. Only poor reading comprehension makes you think it did. 1. Common purpose. Check. 2. Through the use of disorder. Check. (Knowing how Or works is a big deal.) 3. Resulting in disturbance of peace. Check. It is really disconcerting that you are trying to change definitions and laws now in regards to your political goal. Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964124] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote>riot Definition A concerted action: (1) made in furtherance of an express common purpose; (2) through the use or threat of violence, disorder, or terror to the public; and (3) resulting in a disturbance of the peace. Under common law, the crime of riot requires the assemblage of three or more actors. The concerted acts may be unlawful in themselves, or they may be lawful acts that are done in a violent or turbulent manner. Among the different forms that riots may take include escalated labor disputes or political demonstrations. While most riots occur in public places, they may also take place within prisons The ACTUAL legal definition of a riot. You've essentially missed requirement 2. Ironically enough.</quote> No you didn't. Only poor reading comprehension makes you think it did. 1. Common purpose. Check. 2. Through the use of disorder. Check. (Knowing how Or works is a big deal.) 3. Resulting in disturbance of peace. Check. It is really disconcerting that you are trying to change definitions and laws now in regards to your political goal. Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/17/17 5:56:56 PM #68:	Corrik posted... SupremeZero posted... riot Definition A concerted action: (1) made in furtherance of an express common purpose; (2) through the use or threat of violence, disorder, or terror to the public; and (3) resulting in a disturbance of the peace. Under common law, the crime of riot requires the assemblage of three or more actors. The concerted acts may be unlawful in themselves, or they may be lawful acts that are done in a violent or turbulent manner. Among the different forms that riots may take include escalated labor disputes or political demonstrations. While most riots occur in public places, they may also take place within prisons The ACTUAL legal definition of a riot. You've essentially missed requirement 2. Ironically enough. No you didn't. Only poor reading comprehension makes you think it did. 1. Common purpose. Check. 2. Through the use of disorder. Check. (Knowing how Or works is a big deal.) 3. Resulting in disturbance of peace. Check. It is really disconcerting that you are trying to change definitions and laws now in regards to your political goal. Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. What disorder, exactly? Do you know ANYTHING whatsoever about law? Yes prosecutors absolutely fucking do. They tack on anything that could potentially apply and knock it down from there. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884964168] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote>riot Definition A concerted action: (1) made in furtherance of an express common purpose; (2) through the use or threat of violence, disorder, or terror to the public; and (3) resulting in a disturbance of the peace. Under common law, the crime of riot requires the assemblage of three or more actors. The concerted acts may be unlawful in themselves, or they may be lawful acts that are done in a violent or turbulent manner. Among the different forms that riots may take include escalated labor disputes or political demonstrations. While most riots occur in public places, they may also take place within prisons The ACTUAL legal definition of a riot. You've essentially missed requirement 2. Ironically enough.</quote> No you didn't. Only poor reading comprehension makes you think it did. 1. Common purpose. Check. 2. Through the use of disorder. Check. (Knowing how Or works is a big deal.) 3. Resulting in disturbance of peace. Check. It is really disconcerting that you are trying to change definitions and laws now in regards to your political goal. Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> What disorder, exactly? Do you know ANYTHING whatsoever about law? Yes prosecutors absolutely fucking do. They tack on anything that could potentially apply and knock it down from there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 5:58:02 PM #69:	Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884964224] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 5:58:37 PM #70:	Ashethan posted... Corrik posted... Destruction of property has been deemed as violent in peace movements beforehand. It was a riot by definition. In North Carolina? Keep in mind that different states have different laws. Destruction of property tends to be considered 'disorderly' but not violent on it's own. If there had been people there calling for the statue NOT to be torn down, as far as I understand it, then you could say that they were inciting a riot and include 'violence' They were charged with two felonies which the group was in violation of according to NC Law. They will plead down and get it lowered or get cute and lose. Whichever, they are going to pay the consequences of taking their actions. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964256] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ashethan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Destruction of property has been deemed as violent in peace movements beforehand. It was a riot by definition. </quote> In North Carolina? Keep in mind that different states have different laws. Destruction of property tends to be considered 'disorderly' but not violent on it's own. If there had been people there calling for the statue NOT to be torn down, as far as I understand it, then you could say that they were inciting a riot and include 'violence'</quote> They were charged with two felonies which the group was in violation of according to NC Law. They will plead down and get it lowered or get cute and lose. Whichever, they are going to pay the consequences of taking their actions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/17/17 5:59:15 PM #71:	Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. Uhhh this could not be further from the truth. Prosecutors need to add any and all charges that may apply, even if they know they'll need to drop some later. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884964291] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. </quote> Uhhh this could not be further from the truth. Prosecutors need to add any and all charges that may apply, even if they know they'll need to drop some later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 5:59:35 PM #72:	StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc. Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964309] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc.</quote> Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/17/17 6:00:18 PM #73:	Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884964340] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:01:44 PM #74:	Peace___Frog posted... Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. Uhhh this could not be further from the truth. Prosecutors need to add any and all charges that may apply, even if they know they'll need to drop some later. Literally just charged the driver with 2nd degree murder. Not 1st degree. And you all agreed it is because they did not think they could prove it. Now because you know the political spin is where you want it, arguing the literal opposite now. The fact the hypocrisy being churned here isn't noticable to yourselves is wild. Seriously. There is zero consistency in your opinions or statements when applied to different political situations. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964434] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote> Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. </quote> Uhhh this could not be further from the truth. Prosecutors need to add any and all charges that may apply, even if they know they'll need to drop some later.</quote> Literally just charged the driver with 2nd degree murder. Not 1st degree. And you all agreed it is because they did not think they could prove it. Now because you know the political spin is where you want it, arguing the literal opposite now. The fact the hypocrisy being churned here isn't noticable to yourselves is wild. Seriously. There is zero consistency in your opinions or statements when applied to different political situations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/17/17 6:01:46 PM #75:	Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc. Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV. My brother is in law school right now, just finishing his second internship, and my father wrote at least one of his textbooks. The idea that the logic comes from watching TV is hilarious. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884964436] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc.</quote> Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV.</quote> My brother is in law school right now, just finishing his second internship, and my father wrote at least one of his textbooks. The idea that the logic comes from watching TV is hilarious.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:01:52 PM #76:	Corrik posted... Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV. ...Are you basing your law knowledge on TV shows? Seriously? They name the charges before they even go over all the evidence. Sometimes lack of evidence knocks charges down, sometimes pleas do, and so on. This is not some new concept. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884964440] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV.</quote> ...Are you basing your law knowledge on TV shows? Seriously? They name the charges before they even go over all the evidence. Sometimes lack of evidence knocks charges down, sometimes pleas do, and so on. This is not some new concept.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:02:53 PM #77:	Peace___Frog posted... Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine. Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat). --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964502] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine.</quote> Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:03:08 PM #78:	I mean, you're not even getting your knowledge from good TV shows, apparently. Did you get all your law knowledge from Franklin & Bash or something. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884964512] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>I mean, you're not even getting your knowledge from good TV shows, apparently. Did you get all your law knowledge from Franklin & Bash or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:03:47 PM #79:	Corrik posted... Peace___Frog posted... Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine. Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat). Really? Cool. I'll shoot her an e-mail and see what she says. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884964545] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine.</quote> Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat).</quote> Really? Cool. I'll shoot her an e-mail and see what she says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:03:51 PM #80:	StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV. ...Are you basing your law knowledge on TV shows? Seriously? They name the charges before they even go over all the evidence. Sometimes lack of evidence knocks charges down, sometimes pleas do, and so on. This is not some new concept. There is no lack of evidence. There is a tape which provides all evidence. Just live in fantasy land because you read something on twittier. = / --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964548] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV.</quote> ...Are you basing your law knowledge on TV shows? Seriously? They name the charges before they even go over all the evidence. Sometimes lack of evidence knocks charges down, sometimes pleas do, and so on. This is not some new concept.</quote> There is no lack of evidence. There is a tape which provides all evidence. Just live in fantasy land because you read something on twittier. = /</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 08/17/17 6:04:34 PM #81:	I guess acquaintance trumps multiple family members. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:884964587] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>I guess acquaintance trumps multiple family members.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:05:47 PM #82:	SupremeZero posted... Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc. Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV. My brother is in law school right now, just finishing his second internship, and my father wrote at least one of his textbooks. The idea that the logic comes from watching TV is hilarious. You clearly don't seem to know the nuances of the law. It was a crime. They made their "statement" I guess. And, the consequences will be met. People thinking they are above the law and some sort of moral reasoning will make the law go away to support their messages are the ones mistaken. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964650] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc.</quote> Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV.</quote> My brother is in law school right now, just finishing his second internship, and my father wrote at least one of his textbooks. The idea that the logic comes from watching TV is hilarious.</quote> You clearly don't seem to know the nuances of the law. It was a crime. They made their "statement" I guess. And, the consequences will be met. People thinking they are above the law and some sort of moral reasoning will make the law go away to support their messages are the ones mistaken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/17/17 6:05:48 PM #83:	Corrik posted... Peace___Frog posted... Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine. Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat). I recall you mentioning her before. We can agree to disagree, but I'm willing to put money down on the felonies being dropped. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884964652] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine.</quote> Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat).</quote> I recall you mentioning her before. We can agree to disagree, but I'm willing to put money down on the felonies being dropped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:06:35 PM #84:	Peace___Frog posted... Corrik posted... Peace___Frog posted... Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine. Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat). I recall you mentioning her before. We can agree to disagree, but I'm willing to put money down on the felonies being dropped. They will be dropped if they plea down. They won't if they fight it. Mark it down. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964692] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine.</quote> Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat).</quote> I recall you mentioning her before. We can agree to disagree, but I'm willing to put money down on the felonies being dropped.</quote> They will be dropped if they plea down. They won't if they fight it. Mark it down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 08/17/17 6:07:11 PM #85:	Good advice in general: https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/898302943958401024 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:884964726] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Good advice in general: https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/898302943958401024</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:07:18 PM #86:	Ok gateway clipper time with the fam. Enjoy your day. = ) toodles. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964735] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Ok gateway clipper time with the fam. Enjoy your day. = ) toodles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 08/17/17 6:08:09 PM #87:	Corrik posted... Peace___Frog posted... Corrik posted... Peace___Frog posted... Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine. Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat). I recall you mentioning her before. We can agree to disagree, but I'm willing to put money down on the felonies being dropped. They will be dropped if they plea down. They won't if they fight it. Mark it down. Fair, perhaps dropped was too ambitious. Amend my statement to "either dropped or found not guilty of". --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:884964779] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Speak to a prosecutor some time. It's also apparent that you didn't read the thread that spawned all this. But that's fine.</quote> Assistant DA of Washington County who I mentioned beforehand in these topics (turn up ypur topic search to confirm) is an acquaintance of mine. And would laugh your political spin out of here (and she is a democrat).</quote> I recall you mentioning her before. We can agree to disagree, but I'm willing to put money down on the felonies being dropped.</quote> They will be dropped if they plea down. They won't if they fight it. Mark it down.</quote> Fair, perhaps dropped was too ambitious. Amend my statement to "either dropped or found not guilty of".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 08/17/17 6:08:22 PM #88:	Corrik posted... SupremeZero posted... Corrik posted... StealThisSheen posted... Corrik posted... Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it. This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc. Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV. My brother is in law school right now, just finishing his second internship, and my father wrote at least one of his textbooks. The idea that the logic comes from watching TV is hilarious. You clearly don't seem to know the nuances of the law. It was a crime. They made their "statement" I guess. And, the consequences will be met. People thinking they are above the law and some sort of moral reasoning will make the law go away to support their messages are the ones mistaken. So explain why everyone who has actually been cited that has law professions thinks they're good to go, including the defense attorney's twitter feed that started this conversation, and your word is "I think this person I know will probably disagree", but you don't appear to have actually ASKED them. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:884964793] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SupremeZero posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the prosecutor doesn't just add charges that have no bearing to a case just because. You have to have reliable thought of having violated said law to charge it.</quote> This is 150% false. Absolutely. They aim for the highest crime and as many crimes as they possibly can, even if they know it won't fly in court, so that if they do choose to plea, they can start higher. Or if it gets knocked down by the judge, etc.</quote> Aim for the highest crime they think is provable. They do not add crimes for giggles. Watch less TV.</quote> My brother is in law school right now, just finishing his second internship, and my father wrote at least one of his textbooks. The idea that the logic comes from watching TV is hilarious.</quote> You clearly don't seem to know the nuances of the law. It was a crime. They made their "statement" I guess. And, the consequences will be met. People thinking they are above the law and some sort of moral reasoning will make the law go away to support their messages are the ones mistaken.</quote> So explain why everyone who has actually been cited that has law professions thinks they're good to go, including the defense attorney's twitter feed that started this conversation, and your word is "I think this person I know will probably disagree", but you don't appear to have actually ASKED them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:09:23 PM #89:	I wonder if Corrik realizes that plea deals typically don't happen if it's 100% sure the crime happened, so the very existence of a plea deal suggests the prosecutor thought they may not win the case on that specific charge. Prosecutors only plead down to the highest thing they know they can undoubtedly prove. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884964842] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>I wonder if Corrik realizes that plea deals typically don't happen if it's 100% sure the crime happened, so the very existence of a plea deal suggests the prosecutor thought they may not win the case on that specific charge. Prosecutors only plead down to the highest thing they know they can undoubtedly prove.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 6:10:21 PM #90:	Corrik posted... Literally just charged the driver with 2nd degree murder. Not 1st degree. And you all agreed it is because they did not think they could prove it. Pretty sure I was the only one who said that, and I'm not really in this argument because I admit I am out of my league compared to many here when it comes to legal procedure. I'm a liberal arts guy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884964888] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>Literally just charged the driver with 2nd degree murder. Not 1st degree. And you all agreed it is because they did not think they could prove it. </quote> Pretty sure I was the only one who said that, and I'm not really in this argument because I admit I am out of my league compared to many here when it comes to legal procedure. I'm a liberal arts guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik 08/17/17 6:11:18 PM #91:	StealThisSheen posted... I wonder if Corrik realizes that plea deals typically don't happen if it's 100% sure the crime happened, so the very existence of a plea deal suggests the prosecutor thought they may not win the case on that specific charge. This is incorrect in many instances but can be true depending on the actual case. (Many surefire cases are plead down). Seriously not responding again for a few hours now. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik <cite>Corrik posted [p:884964945] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I wonder if Corrik realizes that plea deals typically don't happen if it's 100% sure the crime happened, so the very existence of a plea deal suggests the prosecutor thought they may not win the case on that specific charge.</quote> This is incorrect in many instances but can be true depending on the actual case. (Many surefire cases are plead down). Seriously not responding again for a few hours now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:12:43 PM #92:	Corrik posted... (Many surefire cases are plead down). Any "surefire case" that pleads down only pleads down because they aimed too high with the charges to begin with. Hence... What we've all been saying. Prosecutors always leave themselves room to plead down by aiming high. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884965027] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik posted...</cite> <quote>(Many surefire cases are plead down). </quote> Any "surefire case" that pleads down only pleads down because they aimed too high with the charges to begin with. Hence... What we've all been saying. Prosecutors always leave themselves room to plead down by aiming high.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 6:13:59 PM #93:	https://twitter.com/wesleylowery/status/898296725437337600 Love this point Literally no one asking for the Confederate monuments to come down wants to erase the history of what led to the Civil War. They want MORE people to understand what happened! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884965084] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/wesleylowery/status/898296725437337600 Love this point Literally no one asking for the Confederate monuments to come down wants to erase the history of what led to the Civil War. They want MORE people to understand what happened!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:14:49 PM #94:	Like, this isn't a challenging concept at all. If a prosecutor knows they can prove Charge A, and knows they can prove Charge B, but isn't sure they can 100% prove Charge C (but it's not impossible, given the jury/judge/etc), they will go with all three charges, A, B, and C, so that they can plead down to A and B to make it look like the defendant is getting something out of it. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884965119] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Like, this isn't a challenging concept at all. If a prosecutor knows they can prove Charge A, and knows they can prove Charge B, but isn't sure they can 100% prove Charge C (but it's not impossible, given the jury/judge/etc), they will go with all three charges, A, B, and C, so that they can plead down to A and B to make it look like the defendant is getting something out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 6:17:44 PM #95:	About the 1st Degree/2nd Degree murder thing, would that be because EVEN IF the idea of killing counter-protesters by driving into them was pre-planned, there's 0% chance they specifically meant to kill Heather Heyer? Or is that not how that works? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884965255] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>About the 1st Degree/2nd Degree murder thing, would that be because EVEN IF the idea of killing counter-protesters by driving into them was pre-planned, there's 0% chance they specifically meant to kill Heather Heyer? Or is that not how that works?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shaduln 08/17/17 6:17:45 PM #96:	Jakyl25 posted... https://twitter.com/wesleylowery/status/898296725437337600 Love this point Literally no one asking for the Confederate monuments to come down wants to erase the history of what led to the Civil War. They want MORE people to understand what happened! But history lives in the statues. If you get rid of them, history literally is erased. Little known fact about statues. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! <cite>Shaduln posted [p:884965258] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/wesleylowery/status/898296725437337600 Love this point Literally no one asking for the Confederate monuments to come down wants to erase the history of what led to the Civil War. They want MORE people to understand what happened!</quote> But history lives in the statues. If you get rid of them, history literally is erased. Little known fact about statues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/17/17 6:18:12 PM #97:	(Last post on this, promise) Now, to be fair, that isn't to say these people couldn't actually be convicted of these felonies. It's just to say that the prosecutor didn't go "Yep, this is absolutely a felony" when the charges were made, because they wouldn't have actually even gone over the evidence by that point, yet. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:884965276] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>(Last post on this, promise) Now, to be fair, that isn't to say these people couldn't actually be convicted of these felonies. It's just to say that the prosecutor didn't go "Yep, this is absolutely a felony" when the charges were made, because they wouldn't have actually even gone over the evidence by that point, yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtSphynx 08/17/17 6:22:43 PM #98:	Geraldo Rivera continues to show that he is a garbage human. https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/898039806382440448 --- Congrats to the BYIG Guru Winner, BKSheikah slurps yakisoba nods nods <cite>SgtSphynx posted [p:884965523] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Geraldo Rivera continues to show that he is a garbage human. https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/898039806382440448</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 08/17/17 6:24:16 PM #99:	SgtSphynx posted... Geraldo Rivera continues to show that he is a garbage human. https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/898039806382440448 I was just about to post this what an incredibly bad take --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:884965606] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote><cite>SgtSphynx posted...</cite> <quote>Geraldo Rivera continues to show that he is a garbage human. https://twitter.com/GeraldoRivera/status/898039806382440448</quote> I was just about to post this what an incredibly bad take</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/17/17 6:25:11 PM #100:	Are there statues to Rommell in Germany? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:884965668] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>Are there statues to Rommell in Germany?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 08/17/17 6:25:43 PM #101:	https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/898299267860791296 WH official: "the President's Advisory Council on Infrastructure, which was still being formed, will not move forward." Infrastruc-sure am surprised to hear about another failure this week. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:884965696] in Politics C... [t:75680353]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/898299267860791296 WH official: "the President's Advisory Council on Infrastructure, which was still being formed, will not move forward." Infrastruc-sure am surprised to hear about another failure this week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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