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LapisLazuli 08/10/17 1:21:17 PM #402: |
Admitting something is bait would defeat the purpose.
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Corrik 08/10/17 1:22:27 PM #403: |
Wanglicious posted...
honestly, the argument of 52% or 40% or whatever doesn't really matter. even if it's off by some and isn't quite over half i'm not going to doubt that a very significant chunk of republicans feel that way. similarly i wouldn't have doubted that a vast majority of democrats would've preferred a third Obama term over Hillary or Trump. that wouldn't shock me if it were 60%+ quite frankly, with a good chunk of that being fine with the same thing proposed here. so the idea of Trump having a good chunk willing to suspend? well yeah, 70-80% of the republican base supports him, he is the representative of the party. they may not like everything he does but they like enough (way more than Mitch, that's for sure). net result, they'll have no problem with more years with him: it means no dems and he continues to dominate. Data provided to The Hill by the conservative polling outlet WPA Research found that 67 percent of Democrats would take a third term for Obama over a potential Clinton administration. Only 28 percent said they're ready to move on from the Obama White House, while 6 percent are undecided. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 08/10/17 1:24:07 PM #404: |
Corrik posted...
Wanglicious posted...honestly, the argument of 52% or 40% or whatever doesn't really matter. even if it's off by some and isn't quite over half i'm not going to doubt that a very significant chunk of republicans feel that way. similarly i wouldn't have doubted that a vast majority of democrats would've preferred a third Obama term over Hillary or Trump. that wouldn't shock me if it were 60%+ quite frankly, with a good chunk of that being fine with the same thing proposed here. so the idea of Trump having a good chunk willing to suspend? well yeah, 70-80% of the republican base supports him, he is the representative of the party. they may not like everything he does but they like enough (way more than Mitch, that's for sure). net result, they'll have no problem with more years with him: it means no dems and he continues to dominate. So are you saying that you believe that, but somehow don't believe the poll about Republicans? --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 08/10/17 1:26:38 PM #405: |
LapisLazuli posted...
Admitting something is bait would defeat the purpose. No, it really wouldn't. It would be really interesting, actually, to test how far Democrats will go to take the bait. Like, suppose DJT offered to resign in 6 months if fewer people criticized him on the internet than Hillary Clinton in that time. Would that get Democrats to stop criticizing him? I'm thinking it wouldn't, at this point. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_DK 08/10/17 1:28:15 PM #406: |
Also to be fair, third term obama is different from putting an election on hold. I'm assuming they mean Obama runs on a 3rd term and wins. Not just they give him a 3rd term w/out an election.
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Kenri 08/10/17 1:32:27 PM #407: |
red sox 777 posted...
That's kind of sad. My post was not bait at all . Nor is Paul Romer's paper, as far as I can tell. It's almost like you have a history here that is guiding how people treat your posts, even ostensibly serious ones. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 1:34:45 PM #408: |
HashtagSEP posted...
Corrik posted...Wanglicious posted...honestly, the argument of 52% or 40% or whatever doesn't really matter. even if it's off by some and isn't quite over half i'm not going to doubt that a very significant chunk of republicans feel that way. similarly i wouldn't have doubted that a vast majority of democrats would've preferred a third Obama term over Hillary or Trump. that wouldn't shock me if it were 60%+ quite frankly, with a good chunk of that being fine with the same thing proposed here. so the idea of Trump having a good chunk willing to suspend? well yeah, 70-80% of the republican base supports him, he is the representative of the party. they may not like everything he does but they like enough (way more than Mitch, that's for sure). net result, they'll have no problem with more years with him: it means no dems and he continues to dominate. Did you read the bold? --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 08/10/17 1:36:27 PM #409: |
I've read that paper as part of my studies. You're talking to people here who don't hold mathematics or economics as hobbies, but as careers. You're misconstruing different aspects of the paper, first and foremost, and second you're complaining about a problem and then going "since we can't be perfect we might as well not try."
It's asinine to take any study as a proper representation of what it's trying to measure. The aim is to estimate a range. We can be fairly sure that a nonzero amount of republicans favor not having am election in 2020, and that's what the discuss here was revolving around before you brought your pseudo intellectual "devil's advocate" bullshit in. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/10/17 1:43:29 PM #410: |
Corrik posted...
HashtagSEP posted...Corrik posted...Wanglicious posted...honestly, the argument of 52% or 40% or whatever doesn't really matter. even if it's off by some and isn't quite over half i'm not going to doubt that a very significant chunk of republicans feel that way. similarly i wouldn't have doubted that a vast majority of democrats would've preferred a third Obama term over Hillary or Trump. that wouldn't shock me if it were 60%+ quite frankly, with a good chunk of that being fine with the same thing proposed here. so the idea of Trump having a good chunk willing to suspend? well yeah, 70-80% of the republican base supports him, he is the representative of the party. they may not like everything he does but they like enough (way more than Mitch, that's for sure). net result, they'll have no problem with more years with him: it means no dems and he continues to dominate. jfc --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/10/17 1:46:19 PM #411: |
Corrik posted...
HashtagSEP posted...Corrik posted...Wanglicious posted...honestly, the argument of 52% or 40% or whatever doesn't really matter. even if it's off by some and isn't quite over half i'm not going to doubt that a very significant chunk of republicans feel that way. similarly i wouldn't have doubted that a vast majority of democrats would've preferred a third Obama term over Hillary or Trump. that wouldn't shock me if it were 60%+ quite frankly, with a good chunk of that being fine with the same thing proposed here. so the idea of Trump having a good chunk willing to suspend? well yeah, 70-80% of the republican base supports him, he is the representative of the party. they may not like everything he does but they like enough (way more than Mitch, that's for sure). net result, they'll have no problem with more years with him: it means no dems and he continues to dominate. when baiting goes wrong --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Regaro 08/10/17 1:47:13 PM #412: |
Regaro posted...
LapisLazuli posted...Peace___Frog posted...The Mana Sword posted...The Mana Sword posted...I think my eyes just rolled all the way in the back of my head --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 08/10/17 1:53:09 PM #413: |
Corrik posted...
HashtagSEP posted...Corrik posted...Wanglicious posted...honestly, the argument of 52% or 40% or whatever doesn't really matter. even if it's off by some and isn't quite over half i'm not going to doubt that a very significant chunk of republicans feel that way. similarly i wouldn't have doubted that a vast majority of democrats would've preferred a third Obama term over Hillary or Trump. that wouldn't shock me if it were 60%+ quite frankly, with a good chunk of that being fine with the same thing proposed here. so the idea of Trump having a good chunk willing to suspend? well yeah, 70-80% of the republican base supports him, he is the representative of the party. they may not like everything he does but they like enough (way more than Mitch, that's for sure). net result, they'll have no problem with more years with him: it means no dems and he continues to dominate. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/012/132/thatsthejoke.jpg --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 08/10/17 1:54:47 PM #414: |
Help.
Someone help. --- **** Netflix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 08/10/17 2:02:43 PM #415: |
Peace___Frog posted...
I've read that paper as part of my studies. You're talking to people here who don't hold mathematics or economics as hobbies, but as careers. You're misconstruing different aspects of the paper, first and foremost, and second you're complaining about a problem and then going "since we can't be perfect we might as well not try." No one said that zero Republicans hold that belief. The study said 52% and Corrik said that 20% would seem very high to him. That was the frame of the debate. You are also misconstruing my posts if you think that I said that we should not even try. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/10/17 2:17:24 PM #416: |
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/895686351529672704
GET BACK TO WORK says man on vacation Also of note to Corrik is he's still pushing "repeal and replace." --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 08/10/17 2:21:03 PM #417: |
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Corrik 08/10/17 2:21:13 PM #418: |
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/895686351529672704 Lame --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 08/10/17 2:26:57 PM #419: |
The Mana Sword posted...
at least he's supportive Ganbatte, Mitch-kun! --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/10/17 2:29:09 PM #420: |
Don't believe in yourself, Mitch!
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kevwaffles 08/10/17 2:31:10 PM #421: |
We're gonna build a wall! And we're gonna make the Titans pay for it!
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red sox 777 08/10/17 2:37:36 PM #422: |
I just saw that my health insurance company cancelled my plan for next year. The implosion plan appears to be working.
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Ashethan 08/10/17 2:39:54 PM #423: |
How long will it take for Trump to realize Congress doesn't work for him?
My bet is he doesn't learn it. Not even after he's out of office. --- Growing up, I wish some teacher told me "You probably won't ever need this, but if you don't learn it, you might miss out on something really cool." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/10/17 2:43:06 PM #424: |
sadly he won't because they volunteer to
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LordoftheMorons 08/10/17 2:43:58 PM #425: |
red sox 777 posted...
I just saw that my health insurance company cancelled my plan for next year. The implosion plan appears to be working. Are you blaming Trump or the Democrats? --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 08/10/17 2:44:28 PM #426: |
https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/895715237546127360
BRIDGEWATER, N.J. (AP) — Trump: 'You can ask the question' whether Senate Leader McConnell should step aside if he can't deliver on agenda whoops, guess he doesn't think Mitch can do it anymore --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 08/10/17 2:58:13 PM #427: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
red sox 777 posted...I just saw that my health insurance company cancelled my plan for next year. The implosion plan appears to be working. I'm not blaming anyone. I'll switch to a different company. As for the premiums being so high, I blame Democrats for passing Obamacare and Republicans in the past for allowing the pre-Obamacare system to be so bad, as well as for coming up with the Obamacare concept. As for Trump, I presume this "implosion" is part of his plan to repeal and replace Obamacare and get us better healthcare for lower cost, by increasing his bargaining power. If it succeeds, it succeeds. If it fails.... I guess we'll apportion blame when and if that happens. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 08/10/17 3:08:16 PM #428: |
https://twitter.com/ap/status/895714739220865024
BREAKING: Trump on his `fire and fury' warning to North Korea: Maybe statement wasn't tough enough. Oh boy --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VintageGin 08/10/17 3:22:59 PM #429: |
living on the west coast and visiting South Korea in October
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The Mana Sword 08/10/17 3:38:52 PM #430: |
Trump has declared the opioid crisis a national emergency.
Oh paper, I think this is a good thing. I don't expect the execution to be particularly effective though. Hope I am proven wrong. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 3:41:09 PM #431: |
Any link to want that entails?
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Peace___Frog 08/10/17 3:46:02 PM #432: |
The Mana Sword posted...
Trump has declared the opioid crisis a national emergency. About time. I recall laughing and crying at the fact that republicans only funded handling it for a year in their healthcare bills. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eddv 08/10/17 4:07:35 PM #433: |
Corrik posted...
Any link to want that entails? It just means they can use emergency funding on it and gives the executive branch broader powers to implement relief. Not sure what form that will take given the makeup of Trumps HHS and Justice Departments but its something. --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 4:18:26 PM #434: |
Eddv posted...
Corrik posted...Any link to want that entails? If this literally means more federally funded Narcan I am gonna just... sideways glance my way the hell outta here --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 08/10/17 4:23:21 PM #435: |
Better to just have dead bodies strewn about and pay people to clean them up, huh
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Eddv 08/10/17 4:24:27 PM #436: |
Short of going all duterte and just murdering all drug users im not really sure what a short term fix to this problem even looks like
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The Mana Sword 08/10/17 4:26:50 PM #437: |
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/895740173786337281
Ken Dilanian‏Verified account @KenDilanianNBC 7m7 minutes ago More According to @KellyO , Trump just now said he thanks Putin for kicking US diplomats out of Moscow, saying, `We want to reduce our payroll.' lol, come on --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 08/10/17 4:30:55 PM #438: |
The Mana Sword posted...
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/895740173786337281 Jesus fucking christ You can practically see the puppet strings --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/10/17 4:37:49 PM #439: |
.... what
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Corrik 08/10/17 4:40:37 PM #440: |
The Mana Sword posted...
https://twitter.com/KenDilanianNBC/status/895740173786337281 Sounds like some humor. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 08/10/17 4:49:06 PM #441: |
Even if that particular comment was a joke it wouldn't excuse the fact that he hasn't condemned Russia's expulsion of our diplomats (or literally any other Russian action) at all.
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The Mana Sword 08/10/17 4:50:45 PM #442: |
Trump doesn't make jokes.
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Corrik 08/10/17 4:52:01 PM #443: |
The Mana Sword posted...
Trump doesn't make jokes. Looks a lot like humor. But, who knows. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 08/10/17 4:54:32 PM #444: |
We've seen Trump's humor and we know that can't be it because he didn't complain about Hillary Clinton at any point.
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GuessMyUserName 08/10/17 4:56:04 PM #445: |
man how do you spend so much effort trying to deny any connections to russia then just make the dumbest comments beyond imagine at every possible opportunity
stop having such a moronic president, americans --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 4:57:52 PM #446: |
GuessMyUserName posted...
man how do you spend so much effort trying to deny any connections to russia then just make the dumbest comments beyond imagine at every possible opportunity What --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/10/17 5:02:29 PM #447: |
it's a stupid tweet, as a joke or not
he keeps doing this America is a joke to the reset of the world. Sincerely, The Rest of the World. --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 08/10/17 5:10:54 PM #448: |
red sox 777 posted...
I kinda doubt anyone who responded has read Romer's paper yet. But uh, this is the great thing about the modern left I suppose. They see useful information as "bait" while being totally unable to stop themselves from taking the bait, every time. They judge people more on orthodoxy than the content of their argument. They ignored the people on the ground who said trouble was coming in the Midwest, and.... aren't you part of the left? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LapisLazuli 08/10/17 5:12:01 PM #449: |
Corrik posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...man how do you spend so much effort trying to deny any connections to russia then just make the dumbest comments beyond imagine at every possible opportunity Don't know why your confused.....well, I do know, but still. --- **** Netflix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik 08/10/17 5:21:22 PM #451: |
Peace___Frog posted...
GuessMyUserName posted...it's a stupid tweet, as a joke or not You sound like you have a lot of animosity lol. --- LoL ID = imajericho XBL GT = Corrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/10/17 5:21:46 PM #452: |
Corrik posted...
Peace___Frog posted...GuessMyUserName posted...it's a stupid tweet, as a joke or not you sound like you're gaslighting --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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