Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 118: China Don't Care

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/344176-graham-writing-bill-to-stop-trump-from-firing-special-counsel

Sen.Lindsey Graham(R–S.C.) said Thursday that he is writing a bill that will limit President Trump'sability to fire the special counsel investigating Russian election meddling.

Graham said his bill, which he will introduce next week, will block apresident from firing the special counsel without a federal judge’s approval if that counsel is investigating the president or his administration, according toThe Wall Street Journal.

The South Carolina Republican has a Democratic cowriter on the legislation in Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), who said on MSNBC earlier this week that he had "concerns" about Trump attempting to oust Robert Mueller.

I think it's good to codify soft norms into actual laws, but i am doubtful that even if Trump blatantly breaks a law he'll be punished in any way. This is a good step, but it will still rely on republicans putting country before party.
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Between this and trying to legalize pot nationwide, Cory Booker's getting some good press lately. I think there was some pharmacy drama recently with him, but right now he has some perks too. I figure his pros and cons will be revisited a lot come 2020 if he decides to run for President.
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He's 100% running. I don't think he's the right candidate, but he is definitely running.
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Cory Booker makes Hillary look like Bernie Sanders.
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I think Booker is a fine choice but he is going to suffer from a lot of the same things Hilary suffered from with -- progressives who think the democratic candidate has to be perfect to vote for them.
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GuessMyUserName posted...

USDA pick non-scientist, “a lot of the science is junk science”, and calls progressives "race traitors"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/02/donald-trump-sam-clovis-old-blog-progressives-obama


ps I am currently in america right now for the first time in my life, and yup I've been met with confederate flags, bikini baristas, and early morning gunfire for no reason

I've lived in the US my entire life. I've never seen either the second or third thing, and I see the first one only occasionally (typically when I'm out of state).

Sounds like you're in a fun part of the US.
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santa is in a pretty out of town area so
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Tennessean here -- we have two of those three items in spades, especially as you go more rural, and neither of them are the one I'd rather have (bikini barista, which I never heard before in America unless you mean like Hooters with just the food).
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My Immortal posted...

I think Booker is a fine choice but he is going to suffer from a lot of the same things Hilary suffered from with -- progressives who think the democratic candidate has to be perfect to vote for them.

I voted for Hillary, and have many problems with Booker.

He's a corporate democrat who supports privatization of schools. In fact he had previously worked with Betsy DeVos, who everyone hates for education secretary. Yeah, he voted against her--but he's not so far from her either.
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I'm not familiar with the term, but we definitely have a few in my city in california. They are small drive-thru only coffee shops where the baristas are apparently required to wear bikinis. I've never been to either (I hate coffee and even if I didn't I wouldn't want to pay more just to have it served to me by a woman in a bikini), but they certainly exist.
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https://twitter.com/senjohnmccain/status/893118454898843649

McCain fires back
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The transcripts of those Trump calls are amazing.

"Pwease stop talking about how you won't pay for the wall. It's killing me powiticawy".
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The transcripts of those Trump calls are amazing.

"Pwease stop talking about how you won't pay for the wall. It's killing me powiticawy".

"it's not really important but it'll make me look good" is such an insane pitch

such an incredible businessman
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don't think i've been to a bikini coffee shop but there's tons of bars with that motif so i'm not surprised.
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GuessMyUserName posted...

TRUMP
Okay, good. Can Australia give me a guarantee that if we have any problems – you know that is what they said about the Boston bombers. They said they were wonderful young men.

TURNBULL
They were Russians. They were not from any of these countries.

TRUMP
They were from wherever they were

good lord

- refugees could be the next boston bombers! why can't you be more like those nice russians?
- the boston bombers were russians...
- yeah whatever

Trump is the least racist person ever
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"I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country"

This is my new favorite Trump quote
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Nearly overlooked that quote. Hot damn.

When had Donald not defended Russia? All I can think of is signing that bi-partisan bill recently, and even then he wasn't happy about it.
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The call with Australia was painful to read.

How can that be our president?
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It's a little sickening how Donald Trump won't confess to calling the White House a dump. He probably just wants to avoid personally paying the repair and renovation costs!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/reporter-heres-story-behind-trump-dismissing-white-house-dump-130919204.html
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HaRRicH posted...

Nearly overlooked that quote. Hot damn.

When had Donald not defended Russia? All I can think of is signing that bi-partisan bill recently, and even then he wasn't happy about it.

It's especially funny because Russia is insulting him left and right on Twitter. But he ignores that and only gets upset about golf magazine saying that he was disrespectful toward the white house.
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So the Daily Show did a piece on the company I work for and the tech/coding training program I went through in Eastern Kentucky last night

And now the Daily Signal is trying to blast it as much as they possibly can because they ran a smear piece on it a week ago in order to go "Look, another Obama program failed!"

https://twitter.com/kelseyjharkness/status/893118376930922497

Literally doing stuff like this

...While I am actually in the building as we speak, and she is not allowed in the building because the current office space is on a college campus. She's not allowed in to interview us, so she's... Lying.

But #FakeNews is stuff like CNN, right?
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HashtagSEP posted...

So the Daily Show did a piece on the company I work for and the tech/coding training program I went through in Eastern Kentucky last night

And now the Daily Signal is trying to blast it as much as they possibly can because they ran a smear piece on it a week ago in order to go "Look, another Obama program failed!"

https://twitter.com/kelseyjharkness/status/893118376930922497

Literally doing stuff like this

...While I am actually in the building as we speak, and she is not allowed in the building because the current office space is on a college campus. She's not allowed in to interview us, so she's... Lying.

But #FakeNews is stuff like CNN, right?

Well, if she can't talk to you, you must not exist, right? Checkmate, libruls.
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If she can't talk to you, her first amendment rights are being infringed.
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Please no one pretend red sox honestly means that
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...I'll bite: why isn't she allowed onto the college campus?
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Apparently Trump's got a "very big announcement" tonight at a rally he's holding in WV.

Who's excited
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Peace___Frog posted...

It was by county, not state. So he likely saw a chunk of red and went "yep i won"

He probably means in the primary?
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dowolf posted...

...I'll bite: why isn't she allowed onto the college campus?

Because as a reporter she'd need permission from the institution

Technically, she can be "on" the campus, but she can't... Report.

And since the smear article was extremely nasty, the college told her she can't

So she tried to

And was rejected

So now she's just lying about the program
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The Mana Sword posted...

Apparently Trump's got a "very big announcement" tonight at a rally he's holding in WV.

Who's excited

"Imma nuke all them blue states, who's in!"
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HaRRicH posted...

Between this and trying to legalize pot nationwide, Cory Booker's getting some good press lately. I think there was some pharmacy drama recently with him, but right now he has some perks too. I figure his pros and cons will be revisited a lot come 2020 if he decides to run for President.

Hes got some pros and cons being a corporate centrist democrats hes got the appeal of being palatable (if begrudgingly) to a very large number of people.

The big con there is the level of political polarization that currently exists. If you think, as conventional wisdom states, that any election in 2020 is gonna come down to base turnout then Booker is the wrong call.

A big pro is that he is black so even if he doesnt turn out white liberals he will probably turn out african americans.

Another con would be if trump is somehow not the candidate. Booker is a great matchup for someone as boxed into a political corner as Trump but if its Kasich? Much harder
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I'm not a fan of Booker specifically because corporatist, but if that's the worst quality about him that still makes him better than anybody the Republicans have right now.
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I think the black candidate means black voters thing is an oversimplification

Obama attracted black voters to turn out in higher numbers not merely BECAUSE he was black, but because he was able to use his race in such a way to speak to black voters to make them feel like he had lived through the same struggles and he had their back.

I'm not sure Booker can pull that off
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Jakyl25 posted...

I think the black candidate means black voters thing is an oversimplification

Obama attracted black voters to turn out in higher numbers not merely BECAUSE he was black, but because he was able to use his race in such a way to speak to black voters to make them feel like he had lived through the same struggles and he had their back.

I'm not sure Booker can pull that off

Counterpoint: Newark
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Regaro posted...

I'm not a fan of Booker specifically because corporatist, but if that's the worst quality about him that still makes him better than anybody the Republicans have right now.

He also worked with Betsy DeVos to privatize education. Booker also defended Romney and Bain Capital. Is he better than anyone the Republicans have? Sure. But he's not getting my vote. In the primaries, or in the general election. He's too opportunistic. I don't trust him, and I'm not one who expects candidates to be perfect. (I voted for Hillary, and think Sanders supporters should have too)
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Dancedreamer posted...

My Immortal posted...

I think Booker is a fine choice but he is going to suffer from a lot of the same things Hilary suffered from with -- progressives who think the democratic candidate has to be perfect to vote for them.

I voted for Hillary, and have many problems with Booker.

He's a corporate democrat who supports privatization of schools. In fact he had previously worked with Betsy DeVos, who everyone hates for education secretary. Yeah, he voted against her--but he's not so far from her either.

Sounds like a democrat who'd get more votes running on a republican ticket.
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Booker has the bonus of being pretty charismatic, which might help some people ignore his less redeeming qualities as a candidate.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Please no one pretend red sox honestly means that

dowolf posted...

...I'll bite

Work of art.
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Eddv posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

It was by county, not state. So he likely saw a chunk of red and went "yep i won"

He probably means in the primary?

If he was anyone else I'd say sure

But were his promises about the drug epidemic a big part of his primary campaign there?
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I'm not familiar with him working with DeVos; I'll need to look into that.

From everything else I know about Booker though he seems like a really smart guy who cares deeply about helping people.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Eddv posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

It was by county, not state. So he likely saw a chunk of red and went "yep i won"

He probably means in the primary?

If he was anyone else I'd say sure

But were his promises about the drug epidemic a big part of his primary campaign there?

They were actually - he and Kasich spent a lot of time on the subject and lo and behold he and Kasich were 1 and 2.
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Has he followed through on any of these promises?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Has he followed through on any of these promises?

That would require him to sign any legislation besides one he throws a shitfit about, wouldn't it?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Has he followed through on any of these promises?

He hired an AG who wants to make drug enforcement a top priority in Jeff Sessions?

Like I don't agree with his policies but there is a logical thread to be followed here.
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And of course Sessions goes right to work on marijuana instead
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So according to NYT West Virginia's Democratic governor Jim Justice is going to announce that he's switching to the Republican Party at Trump's rally tonight.
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Gross
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LordoftheMorons posted...

So according to NYT West Virginia's Democratic governor Jim Justice is going to announce that he's switching to the Republican Party at Trump's rally tonight.

Is this a common move in the middle of a term? Like, I know politicians have switched before. This just seems like it'll upset off the people proven to vote for you without the confidence that your new base will accept your recent change.
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#NWV
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guy wasn't really a democrat anyway

he was 'whatever will get me elected'
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