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cliched zombie story with simple character development. Story is repetitive, you meet someone, they die, you meet someone else, they die.

Meh. Dialogue is middle school level.
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my issue is with the structure.
slow walk down a corridor doing nothing but listen to character talk
Combat room
empty area to scavenge things
repeat
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0/10
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It was just OK.
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naughty dog isn't interested in making games anymore
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what are some games that you find to be well-written and/or have good dialogue?
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The Last of Us felt like it should have been a Zelda game. Or anything but a shooter game. It doesn't make sense that you're in an apocalyptic world, where humans are constantly being preyed upon by zombies, yet your biggest kill count are humans. In fact, you can go for days without seeing another human being yet the moment you interact with one, you're both on edge and about ready to gun down each other. The human population can't sustain itself in that manner and it disgusts me that only one reviewer I've seen called them out on that contradiction.
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boxington posted...

what are some games that you find to be well-written and/or have good dialogue?

Portal, or Psychonauts.
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I've only played the second one, but Portal 2 was pretty great.

Edit: I've only played a little of Psychonauts, but I enjoyed it.
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boxington posted...

what are some games that you find to be well-written and/or have good dialogue?

I thought Kotor, especially kotor II had good dialogue. But I haven't played too many games.
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They were supposed to make a new jak and daxter game, instead we got some generic zombie game
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How is it generic zombie story?

The dynamic of Joel and Ellie is the main focus and the whole twist in the ending is great.
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GOAT game
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lilORANG posted...

GOAT game

It was an amazing game. Maybe it was just too sophisticated for you to appreciate.
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kislev posted...

They were supposed to make a new jak and daxter game, instead we got some generic zombie game

Last of Us is not a generic zombie game.
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Sad_Face posted...

The Last of Us felt like it should have been a Zelda game. Or anything but a shooter game. It doesn't make sense that you're in an apocalyptic world, where humans are constantly being preyed upon by zombies, yet your biggest kill count are humans. In fact, you can go for days without seeing another human being yet the moment you interact with one, you're both on edge and about ready to gun down each other. The human population can't sustain itself in that manner and it disgusts me that only one reviewer I've seen called them out on that contradiction.

A lawless apocalypse bringing out the worst in human nature is literally the oldest narrative in the book
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Dat ending
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Blackstar110 posted...

Sad_Face posted...

The Last of Us felt like it should have been a Zelda game. Or anything but a shooter game. It doesn't make sense that you're in an apocalyptic world, where humans are constantly being preyed upon by zombies, yet your biggest kill count are humans. In fact, you can go for days without seeing another human being yet the moment you interact with one, you're both on edge and about ready to gun down each other. The human population can't sustain itself in that manner and it disgusts me that only one reviewer I've seen called them out on that contradiction.

A lawless apocalypse bringing out the worst in human nature is literally the oldest narrative in the book

this is also precisely why last of us is so uninteresting

it's well written and acted for what it is but "we r the monstrs all along" is just so overdone at this point
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I wasn't following the hype, but I had a blast
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Delirious_Beard posted...

Blackstar110 posted...

Sad_Face posted...

The Last of Us felt like it should have been a Zelda game. Or anything but a shooter game. It doesn't make sense that you're in an apocalyptic world, where humans are constantly being preyed upon by zombies, yet your biggest kill count are humans. In fact, you can go for days without seeing another human being yet the moment you interact with one, you're both on edge and about ready to gun down each other. The human population can't sustain itself in that manner and it disgusts me that only one reviewer I've seen called them out on that contradiction.

A lawless apocalypse bringing out the worst in human nature is literally the oldest narrative in the book

this is also precisely why last of us is so uninteresting

it's well written and acted for what it is but "we r the monstrs all along" is just so overdone at this point

the last of us doenst try to make sweeping statements about people being monsters

the entire plot is about joels relationship with ellie
the ending wasnt about joel being a monster, but being a father. or at least being a person who cares for another

if the dialogue between ellie and joel wasnt moving for you then you just arent going to get it

Sad_Face posted...

The human population can't sustain itself in that manner

Isn't that kind of one of the points?
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HogRiderreturns posted...

Sad_Face posted...

The human population can't sustain itself in that manner

Isn't that kind of one of the points?

Blackstar110 posted...

A lawless apocalypse bringing out the worst in human nature is literally the oldest narrative in the book

That still doesn't make any sense or make it right as in this context humans are actively being preyed upon. I remember one gameplay segment where you gun down guys who are running after you at a distance with a sniper and right behind of them were the zombies chasing after them, which you gun down as well. It makes for a cool gameplay segment, maybe, but my god that makes absolutely no sense from a narrative point of view. Why am I so quick to turn my gun on you, when I've seen only a handful of people a week and there are zombies out there to prey on me? That doesn't make any sense from a survival point of view.
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Ellie running around in front of people/zombies not being seen is what bothered me the most. They should have taken notes from G.R.A.W. you controlled several A.I. partners at once and responded well while in real time.
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TC just has horrible taste
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Sad_Face posted...

The Last of Us felt like it should have been a Zelda game. Or anything but a shooter game. It doesn't make sense that you're in an apocalyptic world, where humans are constantly being preyed upon by zombies, yet your biggest kill count are humans. In fact, you can go for days without seeing another human being yet the moment you interact with one, you're both on edge and about ready to gun down each other. The human population can't sustain itself in that manner and it disgusts me that only one reviewer I've seen called them out on that contradiction.

Dude, the main appeal of zombie fiction is a scenario where society has collapsed. If society doesn't collapse then it makes no sense that there's an epidemic, everyone would just work together and fix it. Which is probably a more realistic scenario, but it doesn't make for entertaining fiction.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

Dude, the main appeal of zombie fiction is a scenario where society has collapsed. If society doesn't collapse then it makes no sense that there's an epidemic, everyone would just work together and fix it. Which is probably a more realistic scenario, but it doesn't make for entertaining fiction.

I don't mind if that there are opposing factions, or groups that want to take advantage of the situation to situate themselves in position of power. The villain in the Winter season was fine. But my problem is how quickly and how many people in TLoU you turn on and gun down. And because of that, the villain's threat of the Winter season was severely diminished because they were just like every other person the duo met, out for blood. And the only reason why it's so excessive is because Naughty Dog's forte is in 3rd person shooters and nothing else. If they had focused on the gameplay first, and chosen for a more Zelda like adventure where the focus is on traversal and exploration, you wouldn't have nearly as many shootouts as it has currently.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

mrw i read this absurd topic:

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DifferentialEquation posted...

It was an amazing game. Maybe it was just too sophisticated for you to appreciate.

It's honestly always this issue with people who try to put it down. Gamers like them aren't interested in story or dialogue in the first place, so it's easy for them to write it off.
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Deadpool_18 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

It was an amazing game. Maybe it was just too sophisticated for you to appreciate.

It's honestly always this issue with people who try to put it down. Gamers like them aren't interested in story or dialogue in the first place, so it's easy for them to write it off.

I am.

But Last of Us isn't king on dialogue or story.
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TLoU simply didn't connect with me
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The gameplay isn't groundbreaking, but the game is really well-made and the voice acting shines.
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I was fine with the story, but it was nothing new or inventive or really all that interesting to me. It borrowed a lot of elements from post-apocalypse stuff like STALKER and Metro which both did the same things better, and the plot twist in the end has been done fifty million times and surprised me literally zero percent.

The gameplay was what made me stop playing. Christ it was so unsatisfying
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I thought it was great but it is pretty overrated. Gameplay is scripted to a frustrating degree.
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I can't comment on the story, characters or dialogue because the awful gameplay and clunky unresponsive controls drove me away from that game after a few hours. I've never been able to get into the Uncharted games either for the same reason. Naughty Dog just makes shitty third person shooters.
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Quorthon109 posted...

The gameplay isn't groundbreaking, but the game is really well-made and the voice acting shines.

this p. much. I did enjoy the gameplay though, even if it wasn't revolutionary. In a story like this, the two leads are the only ones who truly matter, and the game does a damn good job with the two leads
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The Last of Us is a great game with a strong cast of characters and superb presentation. Problem is the story is very predictable and the gameplay only shines if you play on the hardest difficulty. Otherwise, you will never feel threatened at any point throughout the game except the beginning.
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I didn't like it that much.

The game play wasn't all that great, so that leaves the story. The Walking Dead , did a story of a father like person taking care of a little girl a lot better .
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i think its personally one of the most over rated games iv ever played.

still a good game though.
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I tried to play it once but the crap gameplay drove me away after a couple hours.

geno_16 posted...

I can't comment on the story, characters or dialogue because the awful gameplay and clunky unresponsive controls drove me away from that game after a few hours. I've never been able to get into the Uncharted games either for the same reason. Naughty Dog just makes shitty third person shooters.

this guy gets it. game's gotta be interesting to play for it to be a good game imo
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boxington posted...

what are some games that you find to be well-written and/or have good dialogue?

Planescape torment
Trails in the sky series
Fallout 1,2 new vegas
Vampire bloodlines the masquerade
Arcanum
Age of decadence

Just on top of my head. Their writing and dialogue are e xcellent and if i look inside my library, there will be dozens of games with novel quality writings and dialogue
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apolloooo posted...

boxington posted...

what are some games that you find to be well-written and/or have good dialogue?

Planescape torment
Trails in the sky series
Fallout 1,2 new vegas
Vampire bloodlines the masquerade
Arcanum
Age of decadence

Just on top of my head. Their writing and dialogue are e xcellent and if i look inside my library, there will be dozens of games with novel quality writings and dialogue

'i really really like dnd esque western rpgs'. the overarching story in all of those games is pretty weak.

Close your account.
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FighterStreet posted...

apolloooo posted...

boxington posted...

what are some games that you find to be well-written and/or have good dialogue?

Planescape torment
Trails in the sky series
Fallout 1,2 new vegas
Vampire bloodlines the masquerade
Arcanum
Age of decadence

Just on top of my head. Their writing and dialogue are e xcellent and if i look inside my library, there will be dozens of games with novel quality writings and dialogue

'i really really like dnd esque western rpgs'. the overarching story in all of those games is pretty weak.

damn.... well I can't really argue with that opinion if those games are your standard.
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Whatever.
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I agree with TC. Who wants to debate?
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