Current Events > Do you think corporal punishment should be allowed in schools?

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They should just expel pieces of shit instead.
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bump, anybody?
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Absolutely not.
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Only if the parent consents to it.
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ProfDE posted...

Only if the parent consents to it.

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ProfDE posted...

Only if the parent consents to it.

No, not even if parents consent to it. Beating young children stunts mental and emotional development, not to mention that children heal slower then adults so bruises, broken bones take longer to mend. Also you are teaching them that violence is an acceptable response to problem solving.
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great way to make kids even more rebellious and disrespectful of authority
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Between detention and a few swats with a paddle, I would probably prefer the swats.
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Duncanwii posted...

Also you are teaching them that violence is an acceptable response to problem solving.

It kinda is, isn't it?
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beating young children in an environment like that is massively fucked up
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What I want to know is why opponents of spanking uniformly fail to see a distinction between spanking a kid and beating them to death.
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Nomadic View posted...

They should just expel pieces of shit instead.

That's extreme and shitty as a first resort. Giving up is ridiculous.

I got my ass busted at school more than at home. I don't see the big deal. People are wusses and think "only I do that." is gonna work out very well.

It's as they say, it takes a village.

I wonder how many are the same people that think saying rude things to people shouldn't ever possibly elicit a violent response.
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DevsBro posted...

What I want to know is why opponents of spanking uniformly fail to see a distinction between spanking a kid and beating them to death.

+1.
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yeah you can't expel on a first go

they're kids

they're really fucking stupid

that's not fair
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Kineth posted...

I wonder how many are the same people that think saying rude things to people shouldn't ever possibly elicit a violent response.

It's amazing and depressing how people are incapable of shrugging off words these days. Such weakness..

DevsBro posted...

What I want to know is why opponents of spanking uniformly fail to see a distinction between spanking a kid and beating them to death.

ive never in my entire life seen anybody conflate these

ive seen people refer to spanking as "beating" is that what ur talkin about?

ive never in my entire life seen anybody conflate these

ive seen people refer to spanking as "beating" is that what ur talkin about?

Sure.
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DevsBro posted...

ive never in my entire life seen anybody conflate these

ive seen people refer to spanking as "beating" is that what ur talkin about?

Sure.

how is that the same thing as not seeing a diff between spanking a kid and beating them to death

is that the only connotation "beating" has to you?

corporal punishment is wrong no matter who does it
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capital punishment should be allowed in school. little billy didn't finish his homework? public execution at lunchtime
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how is that the same thing as not seeing a diff between spanking a kid and beating them to death

is that the only connotation "beating" has to you?

Let me ask you this. What purpose is there in using a word shared with a form of murder if not to increase the severity of the connotation?
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As Bob Ross said, "Beat the devil outta them"
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no
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Corporal punishment is a double-edged sword in today's society where kids are more likely to abused at home. On the one hand, you get the response you want by getting everyone's attention because no one likes getting a spanking. On the other hand, you whip a kid with a history of abuse that you were unaware of and the problem gets far worse. I say leave the spanking in the homes and just punish an unruly child in other ways.
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DevsBro posted...

how is that the same thing as not seeing a diff between spanking a kid and beating them to death

is that the only connotation "beating" has to you?

Let me ask you this. What purpose is there in using a word shared with a form of murder if not to increase the severity of the connotation?

the purpose is to get a point across, yes. if you jump right to "beating them to death" when you hear it, that's on you

Definitely not. I would be very upset if this happened without consent (somehow) and would never enroll them in a school that did this.
I'm gay though, so probably won't have any kids tbh

DevsBro posted...

What I want to know is why opponents of spanking uniformly fail to see a distinction between spanking a kid and beating them to death.

Many people do see a difference in the two. We understand that spanking is different from beating.
The problem is that almost all studies on the subject show that even light spanking can have negative effects on the child. That there are multitude of ways to discipline them without resorting to hitting them.

Sure there are people who say that all taps on the butt are the same as smashing their face in, but that isn't what most people are saying. We're just saying that when there's one form of discipline that has the chance to hurt your kid more than other forms, why use it? Why cling to something that has been proven to not be as effective as we were taught?

It just reeks of intellectual dishonesty and laziness.
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Yeah that would work out so well in today's culture.

Day 1: Child gets spanked
Day 2: Same child shows back up at school with his father's shotgun and kills 20 students and the teacher who spanked him
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the purpose is to get a point across

Ah, see now you understand the "to death" addendum, I hope.
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DevsBro posted...

the purpose is to get a point across

Ah, see now you understand the "to death" addendum, I hope.

no, i dont see how one would make that leap

Mystere posted...

Kineth posted...

I wonder how many are the same people that think saying rude things to people shouldn't ever possibly elicit a violent response.

It's amazing and depressing how people are incapable of shrugging off words these days. Such weakness..

What's amazing and depressing is the apologism on the internet for verbal abuse.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

DevsBro posted...

ive never in my entire life seen anybody conflate these

ive seen people refer to spanking as "beating" is that what ur talkin about?

Sure.

how is that the same thing as not seeing a diff between spanking a kid and beating them to death

is that the only connotation "beating" has to you?

"a punishment or assault in which the victim is hit repeatedly."

Technically a spanking has to have multiple hits to be a beating.

Although in popular usage beating often means something more like "a brutal beatdown" than a smack or five on the buttocks. At least in my personal experience.
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Not this again...

Corporal punishment in schools is rightfully illegal in most places and should be illegal everywhere. Parents shouldn't be spanking their kids either, but I wouldn't go as far as to make that illegal.

Take them out of a class they really enjoy instead. If there isn't a class they enjoy give them double homework or something in their most hated class. If a kid likes every class suspend or expell them. If a kid hates school anyway keep them in school because they want to be suspended and expelled anyway.
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Strider102 posted...

Take them out of a class they really enjoy instead. If there isn't a class they enjoy give them double homework or something in their most hated class. If a kid likes every class suspend or expell them. If a kid hates school anyway keep them in school because they want to be suspended and expelled anyway.

The problem is when said kid keeps beating up other kids.
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pikachupwnage posted...

Strider102 posted...

Take them out of a class they really enjoy instead. If there isn't a class they enjoy give them double homework or something in their most hated class. If a kid likes every class suspend or expell them. If a kid hates school anyway keep them in school because they want to be suspended and expelled anyway.

The problem is when said kid keeps beating up other kids.

Well you can't hit them back and sending them home isn't much of a punishment in itself, at least not in their eyes.
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Yes, it might get some more people to want to teach if they can hit kids.
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Asherlee10 posted...

pikachupwnage posted...

Strider102 posted...

Take them out of a class they really enjoy instead. If there isn't a class they enjoy give them double homework or something in their most hated class. If a kid likes every class suspend or expell them. If a kid hates school anyway keep them in school because they want to be suspended and expelled anyway.

The problem is when said kid keeps beating up other kids.

Beating a kid that hits other children is NOT going to get him to stop hitting other children. Studies show that does the exact opposite.

Oh I wasn't posting that to support corporal punishment.

I was just saying you have to think how he affects the other kids. If he keeps beating other kids even if removal isn't the best option for him...it might be for the class as a whole.
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