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BillyKidd
06/21/17 1:16:00 PM
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Apparently, Trump underestimated how many illegals voted. When is this guy going to stop winning?
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mario2000
06/21/17 1:17:20 PM
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i thought washington times was librul faek nooz
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BillyKidd
06/21/17 1:19:15 PM
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That's how bad it got caught. When even liberal news organizations have to admit it.
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foreveraIone
06/21/17 1:20:04 PM
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Man. Thank Jeff Bezos for turning this failing newspaper aroun-hey wait a minute.
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Giant_Aspirin
06/21/17 1:20:09 PM
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The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians,

only red hatters would believe these guys over Harvard University.
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mario2000
06/21/17 1:23:01 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
That's how bad it got caught. When even liberal news organizations have to admit it.

ah those redhat mental gymnastics at work

david koresh wished he had cult followers as blindly faithful as trumpists
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BillyKidd
06/21/17 1:24:36 PM
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mario2000 posted...
BillyKidd posted...
That's how bad it got caught. When even liberal news organizations have to admit it.

ah those redhat mental gymnastics at work

david koresh wished he had cult followers as blindly faithful as trumpists


how you figure? Washington Times was calling it a conspiracy theory 5 months ago.
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Amputee
06/21/17 1:27:27 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Apparently, Trump underestimated how many illegals voted. When is this guy going to stop winning?


This is 100% false.

Breaking news: a conservative leaning think-tank says something without presenting facts

BTW the Washington Times is conservative, in post 3 you refer to them as "liberal".

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Amputee
06/21/17 1:28:52 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
mario2000 posted...
BillyKidd posted...
That's how bad it got caught. When even liberal news organizations have to admit it.

ah those redhat mental gymnastics at work

david koresh wished he had cult followers as blindly faithful as trumpists


how you figure? Washington Times was calling it a conspiracy theory 5 months ago.


Lol, the low-info voter doesn't know the difference between the Washington Post and the Washington Times
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billcom6
06/21/17 1:29:44 PM
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1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.
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CruelBuffalo
06/21/17 1:31:22 PM
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Capn Circus
06/21/17 1:33:21 PM
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And this is precisely the reason democrat cities knowingly and enthusiastically harbor known illegal immigrants--even violent criminal illegal aliens.

Trump exposed them. Flushed 'em out in the open
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Amputee
06/21/17 1:34:15 PM
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billcom6 posted...
1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.


Non-citizens do not vote. It's the same reason the commit crimes at a much lower rate than actual citizens - keep your nose clean and keep a low profile.

This is a POS fake story from a highly questionable person, that is why literally nobody is covering it, even fox won't fuck with it from what I see.
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RebelElite791
06/21/17 1:35:14 PM
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Honestly cant tell if this topic is satire or not
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Kim Kusanagi
06/21/17 1:36:00 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians,



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gmims44
06/21/17 1:36:26 PM
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Go easy on them, guys. Their Dear Leader asked them to believe something blatantly untrue, and it's not always easy to comply. They're doing the best they can.

Here's a tip: just repeat the lie over and over again to yourselves, and eventually it will feel true.
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Tmaster148
06/21/17 1:37:17 PM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Honestly cant tell if this topic is satire or not


I don't think it is. I think TC legitimately believes millions of illegals voted in the election without any hard evidence to back the claim.
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hyperpowder
06/21/17 1:37:44 PM
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He probably did win the popular vote. Now how does that make him less awful as a president?
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BillyKidd
06/21/17 1:39:51 PM
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billcom6 posted...
1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.


1) Yes he did. He said it was like 3 million, not almost 6.
2) You really think they are going to vote for the guy that said multiple times he's going to fly them back to their country of origin?
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Xxlv20xX
06/21/17 1:39:56 PM
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Am I missing something or does this story only mention studies that dealt with the 2008 and 2012 elections?
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FighterStreet
06/21/17 1:40:48 PM
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why does it matter if he won? Why does the TC care?
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BillyKidd
06/21/17 1:41:20 PM
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Kim Kusanagi posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians,



seh6p


not an argument
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Tmaster148
06/21/17 1:42:53 PM
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Xxlv20xX posted...
Am I missing something or does this story only mention studies that dealt with the 2008 and 2012 elections?


The entire study is based on there's millions of illegals registered to vote, therefore they must have voted.
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Balrog0
06/21/17 1:43:37 PM
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the washington times is a conservative outlet btw
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CableZL
06/21/17 1:46:29 PM
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He estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted.

I see. When you don't have actual facts, just present a wide ass range in your estimate just to cover your bases.
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Kim Kusanagi
06/21/17 1:50:34 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians,



seh6p


not an argument


A nonargument for a nonargument
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The Deadpool
06/21/17 1:52:45 PM
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594,000 to 5.7 million voted.


That's some margin of error...
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gmims44
06/21/17 1:54:52 PM
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*posts complete bulls*** pulled out of someone's ass

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Amputee
06/21/17 1:56:09 PM
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I think it is safe to say that TC got sufficiently roasted for sharing fake news, therefore ghosted away.
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COVxy
06/21/17 1:56:48 PM
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The Deadpool posted...
That's some margin of error...


JUST FACTS!

(this seems like the name someone would give a think tank if they were someone who debates about gender by citing chromosomes, or only talks about obesity in reference to CICO)
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creativerealms
06/21/17 1:57:47 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians,



seh6p


not an argument


A conservative news source uses a conservative think tank to back up their pre conceived notions. That is an argument one you would have used to dismiss the information if it was a liberal news source using a liberal think tank.
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UrCa1988
06/21/17 1:59:30 PM
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I like how voter fraud goes from a maybe once a year occurrence to 6 million in one election. And of these 6 million cases, the only one I'm aware of was a woman in Idaho who voted for Trump, lmao.
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TendoDRM
06/21/17 2:08:43 PM
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UrCa1988 posted...
I like how voter fraud goes from a maybe once a year occurrence to 6 million in one election. And of these 6 million cases, the only one I'm aware of was a woman in Idaho who voted for Trump, lmao.

Don't forget Trump's family members being registered in multiple states!
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CableZL
06/21/17 2:11:36 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
UrCa1988 posted...
I like how voter fraud goes from a maybe once a year occurrence to 6 million in one election. And of these 6 million cases, the only one I'm aware of was a woman in Idaho who voted for Trump, lmao.

Don't forget Trump's family members being registered in multiple states!


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Lord_of_BeefDip
06/21/17 2:18:44 PM
#37:


BillyKidd posted...
billcom6 posted...
1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.


1) Yes he did. He said it was like 3 million, not almost 6.
2) You really think they are going to vote for the guy that said multiple times he's going to fly them back to their country of origin?


Yet this is all based on conjecture and hearsay.

Not only would most illegals avoid any federal place, but doubly would most not want to take the risk of being caught and deported.

Next, I find it funny that when Trump was ahead in the popular vote count, that there was little mention of illegal votes. Then when Hillary pulled ahead by a quarter million, suddenly around that many illegals voted. Then when she was up half a million, the number of illegals supposedly voting was half a million. Rinse and repeat, move some goalposts, and she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.9 million and now the most convenient number is that just over 3 million illegals voted. Nevermind that there was never any proof for the initial number accused, that was handwaived as fact and the goal moved.

It is absurd, and pretty telling of just how thin skinned so many of you are that you have to run with a bogus conspiracy theory in order to feel better about losing the popular.

What really sinks this is that somehow the Democrats were clever enough to get 3 million + votes that were by non citizens, yet were dumb enough to just mostly pad solid blue states. If they were really such Machiavellian geniuses, why not spread a couple hundred thousand across Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, thus winning what unfortunately actually matters, the EC. Or given the margins and number of illegal immigrants in Texas, just pile a million extra onto that state and flip it blue.
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Amputee
06/21/17 2:26:34 PM
#38:


Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
BillyKidd posted...
billcom6 posted...
1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.


1) Yes he did. He said it was like 3 million, not almost 6.
2) You really think they are going to vote for the guy that said multiple times he's going to fly them back to their country of origin?


Yet this is all based on conjecture and hearsay.

Not only would most illegals avoid any federal place, but doubly would most not want to take the risk of being caught and deported.

Next, I find it funny that when Trump was ahead in the popular vote count, that there was little mention of illegal votes. Then when Hillary pulled ahead by a quarter million, suddenly around that many illegals voted. Then when she was up half a million, the number of illegals supposedly voting was half a million. Rinse and repeat, move some goalposts, and she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.9 million and now the most convenient number is that just over 3 million illegals voted. Nevermind that there was never any proof for the initial number accused, that was handwaived as fact and the goal moved.

It is absurd, and pretty telling of just how thin skinned so many of you are that you have to run with a bogus conspiracy theory in order to feel better about losing the popular.

What really sinks this is that somehow the Democrats were clever enough to get 3 million + votes that were by non citizens, yet were dumb enough to just mostly pad solid blue states. If they were really such Machiavellian geniuses, why not spread a couple hundred thousand across Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, thus winning what unfortunately actually matters, the EC. Or given the margins and number of illegal immigrants in Texas, just pile a million extra onto that state and flip it blue.


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Axiom
06/21/17 2:36:22 PM
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I tagged TC as fake news awhile ago. I guess I won't be removing it anytime soon
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HylianFox
06/21/17 2:37:40 PM
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The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians,


lmao
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BillyKidd
06/21/17 3:28:05 PM
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Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
BillyKidd posted...
billcom6 posted...
1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.


1) Yes he did. He said it was like 3 million, not almost 6.
2) You really think they are going to vote for the guy that said multiple times he's going to fly them back to their country of origin?


Yet this is all based on conjecture and hearsay.

Not only would most illegals avoid any federal place, but doubly would most not want to take the risk of being caught and deported.

Next, I find it funny that when Trump was ahead in the popular vote count, that there was little mention of illegal votes. Then when Hillary pulled ahead by a quarter million, suddenly around that many illegals voted. Then when she was up half a million, the number of illegals supposedly voting was half a million. Rinse and repeat, move some goalposts, and she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.9 million and now the most convenient number is that just over 3 million illegals voted. Nevermind that there was never any proof for the initial number accused, that was handwaived as fact and the goal moved.

It is absurd, and pretty telling of just how thin skinned so many of you are that you have to run with a bogus conspiracy theory in order to feel better about losing the popular.

What really sinks this is that somehow the Democrats were clever enough to get 3 million + votes that were by non citizens, yet were dumb enough to just mostly pad solid blue states. If they were really such Machiavellian geniuses, why not spread a couple hundred thousand across Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, thus winning what unfortunately actually matters, the EC. Or given the margins and number of illegal immigrants in Texas, just pile a million extra onto that state and flip it blue.


Why did they stop recounting votes in Michigan?
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Amputee
06/21/17 3:30:32 PM
#42:


BillyKidd posted...
Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
BillyKidd posted...
billcom6 posted...
1. No he didn't.

2. If non citizens cast votes, we are just going to assume THEY ALL voted for Hillary? I mean I know that is what is best for Trump's fragile ego to make him think he didn't lose the popular vote, but c'mon.


1) Yes he did. He said it was like 3 million, not almost 6.
2) You really think they are going to vote for the guy that said multiple times he's going to fly them back to their country of origin?


Yet this is all based on conjecture and hearsay.

Not only would most illegals avoid any federal place, but doubly would most not want to take the risk of being caught and deported.

Next, I find it funny that when Trump was ahead in the popular vote count, that there was little mention of illegal votes. Then when Hillary pulled ahead by a quarter million, suddenly around that many illegals voted. Then when she was up half a million, the number of illegals supposedly voting was half a million. Rinse and repeat, move some goalposts, and she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.9 million and now the most convenient number is that just over 3 million illegals voted. Nevermind that there was never any proof for the initial number accused, that was handwaived as fact and the goal moved.

It is absurd, and pretty telling of just how thin skinned so many of you are that you have to run with a bogus conspiracy theory in order to feel better about losing the popular.

What really sinks this is that somehow the Democrats were clever enough to get 3 million + votes that were by non citizens, yet were dumb enough to just mostly pad solid blue states. If they were really such Machiavellian geniuses, why not spread a couple hundred thousand across Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, thus winning what unfortunately actually matters, the EC. Or given the margins and number of illegal immigrants in Texas, just pile a million extra onto that state and flip it blue.


Why did they stop recounting votes in Michigan?


You got fucking wrecked, move on, "fake news" (tagged user as)
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06/21/17 3:31:09 PM
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southcoast09
06/21/17 3:32:31 PM
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Amputee posted...
BillyKidd posted...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Apparently, Trump underestimated how many illegals voted. When is this guy going to stop winning?


This is 100% false.

Breaking news: a conservative leaning think-tank says something without presenting facts

BTW the Washington Times is conservative, in post 3 you refer to them as "liberal".

Ignorance is unbecoming.

No, the denial and belligerence is what is unbecoming. Your party was too in-your-face and you lost the election.

You take hillarys dead votes, double votes, and illegal votes away and trump won hands down. No argument.
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Amputee
06/21/17 3:36:49 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Amputee posted...
BillyKidd posted...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Apparently, Trump underestimated how many illegals voted. When is this guy going to stop winning?


This is 100% false.

Breaking news: a conservative leaning think-tank says something without presenting facts

BTW the Washington Times is conservative, in post 3 you refer to them as "liberal".

Ignorance is unbecoming.

No, the denial and belligerence is what is unbecoming. Your party was too in-your-face and you lost the election.

You take hillarys dead votes, double votes, and illegal votes away and trump won hands down. No argument.


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marc55
06/21/17 3:39:42 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Xxlv20xX posted...
Am I missing something or does this story only mention studies that dealt with the 2008 and 2012 elections?

You're not missing anything

TC probably did lol
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BillyKidd
06/21/17 3:41:56 PM
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marc55 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Xxlv20xX posted...
Am I missing something or does this story only mention studies that dealt with the 2008 and 2012 elections?

You're not missing anything

TC probably did lol


no, if that many voted in 2008, who exactly do you think they are going to vote for? The guy who said he's going to kick them out? It takes time to fact check and go through individual ballots.
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CableZL
06/21/17 3:45:11 PM
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BillyKidd posted...
no, if that many voted in 2008, who exactly do you think they are going to vote for? The guy who said he's going to kick them out? It takes time to fact check and go through individual ballots.


There has been no evidence to suggest that millions of illegal votes happened in any US election in the first place.
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Butterfiles
06/21/17 3:50:29 PM
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Guys

I admit it

I stuffed the ballot

I voted 3 million times

For Gary Johnson
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