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Full Throttle
06/10/17 1:39:51 AM
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Do you think 57 is too old to be getting a BA?


59 y/o Donna Kikkert, a STUDENT at Wisconsin University is suing her poetry professor because her teacher gave her an F in advanced creative writing poetry class of which she thinks she deserves an A for!!

She complained against Patricia Dyjak claiming her teaching material had alienated "mainstream" students at the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point

She is pursing a BA and said Patricia "swung the pendulum far to the side of the LGBT students while she, the "mature" student got an F grade in the class.

She also said her failing grade was the result of "capricious retaliation" after she complained to her about the lgbt content and the professor's behaviour toward students.

A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.

She wanted to study classic poetry in the course but got a different syllabus than she expected. She said "For the reading material in this court, Ms Dyjak chose 5 poetry textbooks which focused on lesbians, illicit sexual relationships, incest and frequent swearing. A rational person would surmise these textbook choices to be myopically degrading and insulting to the intelligence of university students who would have greatly benefited from a balanced study of poets"

Donna said by focusing on LGBT works, Dyjak chose to discount the importance and the validity of the mainstream student population

Not only does Donna demand an A, but wants Dyjak to be suspended or a year WITHOUT pay and REMOVED from the university entirely!!

Do you think 57 is too old to be getting a Bachelor's Degree? let's see what people think

Patricia - Teacher

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Taxer
06/11/17 2:19:07 AM
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Should have done STEM

Fair, next
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Dash_Harber
06/11/17 2:23:02 AM
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Full Throttle posted...

A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.


Translation; Donna is a bigot with a victim complex who is not nearly as talented as she thinks she is.
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3rd_Best_Master
06/11/17 2:24:41 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Full Throttle posted...

A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.


Translation; which CEman is Donna?

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E32005
06/11/17 2:30:54 AM
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she has a tat that just says, "words"?
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Dash_Harber
06/11/17 2:53:01 AM
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E32005 posted...
she has a tat that just says, "words"?

She teaches poetry, should give her the benefit of the doubt.
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EuroKnight18
06/11/17 3:15:52 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.

Sounds like religious discrimination, which too my knowledge violates the Civil Rights Act. Donna should win and the bigot judge should be sacked.
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Dash_Harber
06/11/17 4:04:48 AM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.

Sounds like religious discrimination, which too my knowledge violates the Civil Rights Act. Donna should win and the bigot judge should be sacked.

Religious discrimination because a student didn't like their grade or the teacher's curriculum? If that was actionable, the entirety of middle school would be embroiled in lengthy court battles for most of their school careers.
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EuroKnight18
06/11/17 5:28:26 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.

Sounds like religious discrimination, which too my knowledge violates the Civil Rights Act. Donna should win and the bigot judge should be sacked.

Religious discrimination because a student didn't like their grade or the teacher's curriculum? If that was actionable, the entirety of middle school would be embroiled in lengthy court battles for most of their school careers.

She's 59 and paid for an education, not an indoctrination. I don't see how it's any different than flunking someone for being Jewish.

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/33400/

Colleges are already required to follow the Civil Rights Act.
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GAMER_X
06/11/17 6:28:53 AM
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Is duckbear banned? I thought these topics with the Maury povich sensationalized title was his gimmick
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DiesMortis
06/11/17 6:41:31 AM
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Lmao fuck her
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Hexenherz
06/11/17 7:10:05 AM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
Dash_Harber posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Full Throttle posted...
A county judge dismissed the case, but Donna is still pursuing an appeal as she won't let this go.

Sounds like religious discrimination, which too my knowledge violates the Civil Rights Act. Donna should win and the bigot judge should be sacked.

Religious discrimination because a student didn't like their grade or the teacher's curriculum? If that was actionable, the entirety of middle school would be embroiled in lengthy court battles for most of their school careers.

She's 59 and paid for an education, not an indoctrination. I don't see how it's any different than flunking someone for being Jewish.

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/33400/

Colleges are already required to follow the Civil Rights Act.



1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.
2 - She would have to prove that she was discriminated against on the basis of anything, as opposed to receiving a fair grade compared to the quality of her work (good luck doing that).
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_Goggalor_
06/11/17 7:13:51 AM
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Not fair at all. Sounds like the professor had a BS, agenda driven curriculum. Does Donna deserve an A? Probably not and her poetry probably sucks. But so does the curriculum so...
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Alakazamtrainer
06/11/17 7:18:16 AM
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Heres my question:

After finding out the syllabus, why didnt she drop the class? There's too many things she could have done to prevent this.
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EuroKnight18
06/11/17 7:21:23 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.
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Hexenherz
06/11/17 7:24:15 AM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

No, I mean, read the article. She's not claiming that it's a religious issue. Even if she was, she'd have to prove it and that would be difficult to do.
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EuroKnight18
06/11/17 7:27:30 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

No, I mean, read the article. She's not claiming that it's a religious issue. Even if she was, she'd have to prove it and that would be difficult to do.

I don't see how. You'd just need to compare it to other papers and if it's not clearly of a lower quality than the rest of the class.... then bam, bias.
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Hexenherz
06/11/17 7:35:28 AM
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Who are you to determine that it is or isn't of a lower quality than the rest of the class' work?
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GOATSLAYER
06/11/17 7:45:29 AM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Not fair at all. Sounds like the professor had a BS, agenda driven curriculum. Does Donna deserve an A? Probably not and her poetry probably sucks. But so does the curriculum so...

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Howl
06/11/17 7:51:30 AM
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But... Is she HOT?
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Roxborough4Ever
06/11/17 9:08:27 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
Who are you to determine that it is or isn't of a lower quality than the rest of the class' work?


lol....when everybody is reading the classics and you are reading pornography, its clear as day
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scoobydoobydont
06/11/17 9:09:08 AM
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Hexenherz
06/11/17 9:12:47 AM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
Hexenherz posted...
Who are you to determine that it is or isn't of a lower quality than the rest of the class' work?


lol....when everybody is reading the classics and you are reading pornography, its clear as day

Reading your post, I'm not sure you understand the case...
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3rd_Best_Master
06/11/17 1:28:53 PM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with classroom curriculum. She's not entitled to attend the classroom and have a specialized assignment that disincludes any mention of LGBT issues just because she identifies as a Christian.
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Soviet_Shurima
06/11/17 1:30:23 PM
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pics of poem
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Turbam
06/11/17 1:30:28 PM
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She's mad because her poem sucked.
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EuroKnight18
06/11/17 5:00:14 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with classroom curriculum. She's not entitled to attend the classroom and have a specialized assignment that disincludes any mention of LGBT issues just because she identifies as a Christian.

She is entitled to equal treatment, which means the school can't discriminate against her for her religious beliefs.
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TrevorBlack79
06/11/17 5:18:46 PM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with classroom curriculum. She's not entitled to attend the classroom and have a specialized assignment that disincludes any mention of LGBT issues just because she identifies as a Christian.

She is entitled to equal treatment, which means the school can't discriminate against her for her religious beliefs.


How was she discriminated against for her religious beliefs?
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Anteaterking
06/11/17 5:36:44 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
She wanted to study classic poetry in the course but got a different syllabus than she expected.


At which point you drop the class.
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TommyG663513
06/11/17 5:41:24 PM
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I just want to see this old ladies work tbh. I have a hard time imagining it was any good nor that it was worthy of an F. Though I also have a hard time imagining someone seeing the syllabus on the first day, not liking the content, and then proceeding to take the course and just complain.

This story is full of crap I don't understand. The instructor does kind of sound like an annoying left winger, but the old lady also sounds like an annoying right winger.

I mean, how do you fail this type of class unless you just didn't turn your work in? Or your work would have to be complete and utter crap. Critiquing writing is a somewhat subjective thing and you could argue for the difference between an A and a B, but outright failing someone? Like WTF.

The instructor has the right to influence the course material to a significant degree and the old lady has the right to take or not take the class.

My gut tells me the instructor had crappy content for her course, but the old lady is way more dumb for a much longer list of reasons.
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Anteaterking
06/11/17 5:43:04 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
I just want to see this old ladies work tbh. I have a hard time imagining it was any good nor that it was worthy of an F. Though I also have a hard time imagining someone seeing the syllabus on the first day, not liking the content, and then proceeding to take the course and just complain.

This story is full of crap I don't understand. The instructor does kind of sound like an annoying left winger, but the old lady also sounds like an annoying right winger.

I mean, how do you fail this type of class unless you just didn't turn your work in? Or your work would have to be complete and utter crap. Critiquing writing is a somewhat subjective thing and you could argue for the difference between an A and a B, but outright failing someone? Like WTF.

The instructor has the right to influence the course material to a significant degree and the old lady has the right to take or not take the class.

My gut tells me the instructor had crappy content for her course, but the old lady is way more dumb for a much longer list of reasons.


I have a feeling that she just flat out didn't do the assignments.
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Howl
06/11/17 5:46:55 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
TommyG663513 posted...
I just want to see this old ladies work tbh. I have a hard time imagining it was any good nor that it was worthy of an F. Though I also have a hard time imagining someone seeing the syllabus on the first day, not liking the content, and then proceeding to take the course and just complain.

This story is full of crap I don't understand. The instructor does kind of sound like an annoying left winger, but the old lady also sounds like an annoying right winger.

I mean, how do you fail this type of class unless you just didn't turn your work in? Or your work would have to be complete and utter crap. Critiquing writing is a somewhat subjective thing and you could argue for the difference between an A and a B, but outright failing someone? Like WTF.

The instructor has the right to influence the course material to a significant degree and the old lady has the right to take or not take the class.

My gut tells me the instructor had crappy content for her course, but the old lady is way more dumb for a much longer list of reasons.


I have a feeling that she just flat out didn't do the assignments.


Her assignments said things like there's only 2 genders and she instantly failed.
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3rd_Best_Master
06/11/17 5:58:11 PM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with classroom curriculum. She's not entitled to attend the classroom and have a specialized assignment that disincludes any mention of LGBT issues just because she identifies as a Christian.

She is entitled to equal treatment, which means the school can't discriminate against her for her religious beliefs.

She's given the same coursework as everyone else. What you're advocating for is the exact opposite of equal treatment.
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EuroKnight18
06/11/17 6:20:28 PM
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3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with classroom curriculum. She's not entitled to attend the classroom and have a specialized assignment that disincludes any mention of LGBT issues just because she identifies as a Christian.

She is entitled to equal treatment, which means the school can't discriminate against her for her religious beliefs.

She's given the same coursework as everyone else. What you're advocating for is the exact opposite of equal treatment.

If she was given an F because of the content of her work, rather than the quality, then she was discriminated against. Given how biased professors are, it's easy to see why it could be the former.
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3rd_Best_Master
06/11/17 6:23:59 PM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
3rd_Best_Master posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
Hexenherz posted...
1 - There's no mention of religion at all here.

It's in the Civil Rights Act.

The Civil Rights Act had nothing to do with classroom curriculum. She's not entitled to attend the classroom and have a specialized assignment that disincludes any mention of LGBT issues just because she identifies as a Christian.

She is entitled to equal treatment, which means the school can't discriminate against her for her religious beliefs.

She's given the same coursework as everyone else. What you're advocating for is the exact opposite of equal treatment.

If she was given an F because of the content of her work, rather than the quality, then she was discriminated against. Given how biased professors are, it's easy to see why it could be the former.

And here's where you take note of the fact that TC's heavily edited post only shows one side of the story. And after you do that you dig deep into your well of knowledge and recall all the instances that students get failing grades not because their work is atrocious, but because they disagree with the teacher. After you've done all of those things, you approach TC's article like a rational individual and decide to stop posting due to being embarrassingly reactionary.
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COVxy
06/11/17 6:40:09 PM
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EuroKnight18 posted...
If she was given an F because of the content of her work, rather than the quality, then she was discriminated against. Given how biased professors are, it's easy to see why it could be the former.


You honestly think this is more likely than her just being a shit student?
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Hexenherz
06/12/17 3:14:29 PM
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But no one is arguing it's infringing on her religious beliefs because she herself isn't even making that claim.
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eston
06/12/17 3:26:21 PM
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I like the part where this 59-year-old poetry student considers herself to be representative of mainstream college students
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E32005
06/12/17 3:28:10 PM
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Dash_Harber posted...
E32005 posted...
she has a tat that just says, "words"?

She teaches poetry, should give her the benefit of the doubt.

Lol
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eston
06/12/17 3:29:28 PM
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BTW that is an amazing troll tattoo
It's even written in Comic Sans I think
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EuroKnight18
06/12/17 6:14:37 PM
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COVxy posted...
EuroKnight18 posted...
If she was given an F because of the content of her work, rather than the quality, then she was discriminated against. Given how biased professors are, it's easy to see why it could be the former.

You honestly think this is more likely than her just being a shit student?

Seems extremely likely to me.
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TommyG663513
06/13/17 1:25:37 PM
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eston posted...
I like the part where this 59-year-old poetry student considers herself to be representative of mainstream college students


LoL I didn't realize that. Too many absurd things going on. That is a pretty hilarious observation though.l
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AcFan87
06/13/17 1:31:33 PM
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I agree that a teacher shouldn't favor LGBT students over the others and a reprimand of some kind for the teacher is in order...
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Howl
06/13/17 1:34:15 PM
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This reminds me of when I took Spanish in High School. There was a girl in my class who spoke Spanish. How TF is it fair for someone who can speak Spanish to take that class? It's literally like first grade English class to them.
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X
06/13/17 1:35:17 PM
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She a 59 year old woman she's from a different era. So it's easy as to why she would find the whole lgbt repulsive and wrong. Was she's wrong sure but the teacher here is also wrong grading students based on her personal feelings on lgbt are all the colleges like this now a day? SJW running the place now?
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AcFan87
06/13/17 1:42:11 PM
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X posted...
She a 59 year old woman she's from a different era. So it's easy as to why she would find the whole lgbt repulsive and wrong. Was she's wrong sure but the teacher here is also wrong grading students based on her personal feelings on lgbt are all the colleges like this now a day? SJW running the place now?

Its not repulsive and wrong to be LGBT, but it is wrong to favor them over other students in service to a liberal agenda. Our universities are completely fucked up in that regard. The student is merely stating her dissatisfaction with that.
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