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Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 2:44:10 PM #51:	Ulyanyx posted... Terra-enforcer posted... Gojak_v3 posted... I can't believe we've gotten to the point where we bitch about cosmetic items, it used to be, "as long as it isn't pay to win it's okay." ThyCorndog posted... you don't need every skin, spray and voiceline in OW. I always have enough coins to get the ones I specifically want if I play regularly No one is bitching. DLC is DLC. I don't see why other games can be called out for DLC practices but this game is immune. Could you two explain as opposed to using buzzwords and essentially saying "who cares"? This is limited run DLC content which encourages the players to spend a shitload of money or grind like crazy to get various in game items. How is it any better than the Battlefront DLC that gave you emotes, weapons with a new oat of paint, and characters that were essentially just skins? this is limited run cosmetic changes that everyone has a chance at, either through grinding lootboxes or using saved up coins. you dont need to pay for lootboxes, and they offer no advantage whatsoever to gameplay, since you can only get cosmetics in other games there is generally no way to unlock anything except by buying it, even if it is cosmetic or adds something to the game, be it new weapons maps or characters. Realistically no one is going to play 300+ hours in this limited time span, so they expect you to pay eventually if you want them all. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879793635] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ulyanyx posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gojak_v3 posted...</cite> <quote>I can't believe we've gotten to the point where we bitch about cosmetic items, it used to be, "as long as it isn't pay to win it's okay."</quote> <cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>you don't need every skin, spray and voiceline in OW. I always have enough coins to get the ones I specifically want if I play regularly</quote> No one is bitching. DLC is DLC. I don't see why other games can be called out for DLC practices but this game is immune. Could you two explain as opposed to using buzzwords and essentially saying "who cares"? This is limited run DLC content which encourages the players to spend a shitload of money or grind like crazy to get various in game items. How is it any better than the Battlefront DLC that gave you emotes, weapons with a new oat of paint, and characters that were essentially just skins?</quote> this is limited run cosmetic changes that everyone has a chance at, either through grinding lootboxes or using saved up coins. you dont need to pay for lootboxes, and they offer no advantage whatsoever to gameplay, since you can only get cosmetics in other games there is generally no way to unlock anything except by buying it, even if it is cosmetic or adds something to the game, be it new weapons maps or characters.</quote> Realistically no one is going to play 300+ hours in this limited time span, so they expect you to pay eventually if you want them all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 05/25/17 2:45:53 PM #52:	Terra-enforcer posted... @ThyCorndog @GOOMFalse posted... Lmao at wanting to pay for characters to have a full game experience more than having all characters free but not being able to have them certain colors without spending money Now looks like you're the one shitposting ironically enough. Those 9 characters are still being developed and won't be released until God knows when. That alone tells you that the game we have now is a complete package. 30 characters, a full story mode, over 10 modes, and a leveling system with equipment and unlockable moves is a shitton more content than what a lot of other games will offer. And the OW skins aren't just palette swaps. The fact that you're actively playing dumb makes your post seem even more like a shitpost. OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:879793743] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>@ThyCorndog <cite>@GOOMFalse posted...</cite> <quote>Lmao at wanting to pay for characters to have a full game experience more than having all characters free but not being able to have them certain colors without spending money</quote> Now looks like you're the one shitposting ironically enough. Those 9 characters are still being developed and won't be released until God knows when. That alone tells you that the game we have now is a complete package. 30 characters, a full story mode, over 10 modes, and a leveling system with equipment and unlockable moves is a shitton more content than what a lot of other games will offer. And the OW skins aren't just palette swaps. The fact that you're actively playing dumb makes your post seem even more like a shitpost.</quote> OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 05/25/17 2:46:27 PM #53:	ThyCorndog posted... OW skins literally don't matter dude. --- This life is just a game we play, that we can never win. But don't give up, no don't give up. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:879793777] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>OW skins literally don't matter dude.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 2:47:19 PM #54:	it gets a pass because fps games usually don't have tons of skins unless it is a moddable game like halflife the skins are very extra, you don't need them to play and you can still get them for free by playing and unlike mobas all the characters and modes and maps are given with the full price no grinding to unlock orisa, you get her when the game updates and new skins added later are indeed dlc, so it is not more scummy than other games charging $1.99 for new dlc rather now you can get the new dlc for free if you are a bit lucky and the last reason is the game gets support and updates that are actually substantial not only do they make new modes, these modes have cinematic openings and voice actins that would in no ways be free and might not even exist without lootboxes --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879793821] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>it gets a pass because fps games usually don't have tons of skins unless it is a moddable game like halflife the skins are very extra, you don't need them to play and you can still get them for free by playing and unlike mobas all the characters and modes and maps are given with the full price no grinding to unlock orisa, you get her when the game updates and new skins added later are indeed dlc, so it is not more scummy than other games charging $1.99 for new dlc rather now you can get the new dlc for free if you are a bit lucky and the last reason is the game gets support and updates that are actually substantial not only do they make new modes, these modes have cinematic openings and voice actins that would in no ways be free and might not even exist without lootboxes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 05/25/17 2:48:27 PM #55:	It doesn't, it just has a lot of morons who gobble it up. That may be turning since they make it more nefarious as time goes on (i.e. more legendary items that really should only be rare or epic, and more frequent "special" events instead of releasing non-limited time items). --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:879793880] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't, it just has a lot of morons who gobble it up. That may be turning since they make it more nefarious as time goes on (i.e. more legendary items that really should only be rare or epic, and more frequent "special" events instead of releasing non-limited time items).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 05/25/17 2:48:32 PM #56:	Terra-enforcer posted... But what is it about Overwatch that gives it a pass? no actual game is locked behind DLC. if you can't have fun because your D.Va isn't wearing a hanbok and someone else's D.Va is, that's your problem. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:879793883] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote> But what is it about Overwatch that gives it a pass?</quote> no actual game is locked behind DLC. if you can't have fun because your D.Va isn't wearing a hanbok and someone else's D.Va is, that's your problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/25/17 2:49:43 PM #58:	that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price so lootboxes really are extra content --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879793956] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price so lootboxes really are extra content</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 2:50:09 PM #59:	@darkphoenix181 @ThyCorndog posted... OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall Terra-enforcer posted... You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879793977] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>@darkphoenix181 <cite>@ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall</quote> <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 2:51:49 PM #60:	Terra-enforcer posted... @darkphoenix181 @ThyCorndog posted... OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall Terra-enforcer posted... You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? can you get the cosmetic changes in sfiv for free? and when they add a new character, is that free like it is in overwatch? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879794079] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>@darkphoenix181 <cite>@ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall</quote> <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? </quote></quote> can you get the cosmetic changes in sfiv for free? and when they add a new character, is that free like it is in overwatch?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 05/25/17 2:52:10 PM #61:	Terra-enforcer posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Overwatch isn't nearly as bad with it as Gears 4. Almost the exact same RNG lottery thing but with a $50 season pass that lets you play the free DLC maps in private matches. That's actually a good point that supports exactly what I mean. Gears gets a ton of hate too even though the lootboxes are similar in nature. Even disregarding the DLC, I recall hearing a lot of hate in the lootbox inclusion in general. Yeah they have all sorts of anti-consumer tactics for duping people with the gear packs. They'll release unique "featured packs" for two weekends out of the month that contain exclusive content that can only be acquired at that time. But in the days leading up to it, they'll release another, cheaper unique pack with carrot-on-a-stick drop rates to sponge up people's credits, that way they're more inclined to buy the featured packs with cash. Then the featured packs end up having just as awful drop rates for the main items and are filled to the brim with duplicates. You almost never get all the skins in the pack to have a matching set, which is what usually drives people to keep buying them. Also, I don't think they ever announced that DLC maps would be free before the game launched, so everyone bought the season pass thinking that was the only way to access them. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:879794107] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Overwatch isn't nearly as bad with it as Gears 4. Almost the exact same RNG lottery thing but with a $50 season pass that lets you play the free DLC maps in private matches.</quote> That's actually a good point that supports exactly what I mean. Gears gets a ton of hate too even though the lootboxes are similar in nature. Even disregarding the DLC, I recall hearing a lot of hate in the lootbox inclusion in general.</quote> Yeah they have all sorts of anti-consumer tactics for duping people with the gear packs. They'll release unique "featured packs" for two weekends out of the month that contain exclusive content that can only be acquired at that time. But in the days leading up to it, they'll release another, cheaper unique pack with carrot-on-a-stick drop rates to sponge up people's credits, that way they're more inclined to buy the featured packs with cash. Then the featured packs end up having just as awful drop rates for the main items and are filled to the brim with duplicates. You almost never get all the skins in the pack to have a matching set, which is what usually drives people to keep buying them. Also, I don't think they ever announced that DLC maps would be free before the game launched, so everyone bought the season pass thinking that was the only way to access them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 05/25/17 2:52:45 PM #62:	darkphoenix181 posted... that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price so lootboxes really are extra content If it never got anything other than the lootboxes, no it probably would not be worth the price, but it however gets lots of new shit. New characters are added, new game modes are added, characters are reworked and rebalanced, ranked mode and matchmaking is improved, etc. and all of that shit is included in the $60 you paid for the game --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:879794148] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price so lootboxes really are extra content</quote> If it never got anything other than the lootboxes, no it probably would not be worth the price, but it however gets lots of new shit. New characters are added, new game modes are added, characters are reworked and rebalanced, ranked mode and matchmaking is improved, etc. and all of that shit is included in the $60 you paid for the game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 05/25/17 2:54:06 PM #63:	It doesn't. Blizzard has been rolling down a slope of shit since Wrath dropped and Activision fucked them up. Overwatch is a mediocre casual game that deserves a 6/10 at best. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:879794222] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>It doesn't. Blizzard has been rolling down a slope of shit since Wrath dropped and Activision fucked them up. Overwatch is a mediocre casual game that deserves a 6/10 at best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/25/17 2:54:51 PM #65:	ChromaticAngel posted... darkphoenix181 posted... that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price so lootboxes really are extra content If it never got anything other than the lootboxes, no it probably would not be worth the price, but it however gets lots of new shit. New characters are added, new game modes are added, characters are reworked and rebalanced, ranked mode and matchmaking is improved, etc. and all of that shit is included in the $60 you paid for the game well other than ranked I mean since that wasn't at launch junkenstein revenge, brawls, that last one that was defend against the robots, the new maps, the new characters, they aren't needed to make the game worth the price but it is nice they give it to us anyways --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879794271] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price so lootboxes really are extra content</quote> If it never got anything other than the lootboxes, no it probably would not be worth the price, but it however gets lots of new shit. New characters are added, new game modes are added, characters are reworked and rebalanced, ranked mode and matchmaking is improved, etc. and all of that shit is included in the $60 you paid for the game</quote> well other than ranked I mean since that wasn't at launch junkenstein revenge, brawls, that last one that was defend against the robots, the new maps, the new characters, they aren't needed to make the game worth the price but it is nice they give it to us anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 2:55:24 PM #66:	darkphoenix181 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... @darkphoenix181 @ThyCorndog posted... OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall Terra-enforcer posted... You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? can you get the cosmetic changes in sfiv for free? and when they add a new character, is that free like it is in overwatch? The characters is irrelevant since that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the hate those games get for the costumes alone. You can't get them in SFIV for free, but on average it costs MUCH less since you're guaranteed to get the costumes as opposed to playing lottery to maybe get your money's worth in Overwatch for a lot more money. Not to mention you can pay for fucking duplicates without even knowing until after the fact.. And you also conveniently ignored SFV and Gears I see. Both you can get their respective versions of lootboxes for free, and yet they still got tons of hate for having so much paid cosmetic changes. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879794304] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>@darkphoenix181 <cite>@ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall</quote> <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? </quote></quote> can you get the cosmetic changes in sfiv for free? and when they add a new character, is that free like it is in overwatch?</quote> The characters is irrelevant since that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the hate those games get for the costumes alone. You can't get them in SFIV for free, but on average it costs MUCH less since you're guaranteed to get the costumes as opposed to playing lottery to maybe get your money's worth in Overwatch for a lot more money. Not to mention you can pay for fucking duplicates without even knowing until after the fact.. And you also conveniently ignored SFV and Gears I see. Both you can get their respective versions of lootboxes for free, and yet they still got tons of hate for having so much paid cosmetic changes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 05/25/17 2:56:23 PM #67:	I generally dislike the random chance mechanic for acquiring shit, but for cosmetic items who seriously gives a fuck --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:879794352] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>I generally dislike the random chance mechanic for acquiring shit, but for cosmetic items who seriously gives a fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gojak_v3 05/25/17 2:56:48 PM #68:	I would much rather a developer use cosmetic items as a revenue stream than content as a revenue stream. Does that make sense now? --- http://i.imgtc.com/rIZcfGBEt8.png <cite>Gojak_v3 posted [p:879794378] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>I would much rather a developer use cosmetic items as a revenue stream than content as a revenue stream. Does that make sense now?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 05/25/17 2:57:23 PM #69:	Gojak_v3 posted... I would much rather a developer use cosmetic items as a revenue stream than content as a revenue stream. Does that make sense now? --- This life is just a game we play, that we can never win. But don't give up, no don't give up. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:879794412] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gojak_v3 posted...</cite> <quote>I would much rather a developer use cosmetic items as a revenue stream than content as a revenue stream. Does that make sense now?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thisisboris2 05/25/17 2:57:25 PM #70:	darkphoenix181 posted... that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price personally i disagree for me the event skins were the only thing making me come back the game is $40 and at release there weren't too many maps, only quick play, and balancing was pretty weird early on too the game is all multiplayer fighting which while doesnt appeal to me too much and i enjoyed the game for the time i played it but to me it just got boring very quickly because all there is is the multiplayer combat, which while i understand appeals to some it just wasnt for me, just not enough outside content --- i dunno why but yall are cray cray coocoo heads <cite>thisisboris2 posted [p:879794416] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>that is to say if overwatch had no skins other than the default skin and never got new modes or anything else added later it is still worth the price</quote> personally i disagree for me the event skins were the only thing making me come back the game is $40 and at release there weren't too many maps, only quick play, and balancing was pretty weird early on too the game is all multiplayer fighting which while doesnt appeal to me too much and i enjoyed the game for the time i played it but to me it just got boring very quickly because all there is is the multiplayer combat, which while i understand appeals to some it just wasnt for me, just not enough outside content</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 05/25/17 2:58:03 PM #71:	thisisboris2 posted... personally i disagree for me the event skins were the only thing making me come back the game is $40 and at release there weren't too many maps, only quick play, and balancing was pretty weird early on too the game is all multiplayer fighting which while doesnt appeal to me too much and i enjoyed the game for the time i played it but to me it just got boring very quickly because all there is is the multiplayer combat, which while i understand appeals to some it just wasnt for me, just not enough outside content Sounds like you just don't like the game dude. --- This life is just a game we play, that we can never win. But don't give up, no don't give up. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:879794449] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>thisisboris2 posted...</cite> <quote>personally i disagree for me the event skins were the only thing making me come back the game is $40 and at release there weren't too many maps, only quick play, and balancing was pretty weird early on too the game is all multiplayer fighting which while doesnt appeal to me too much and i enjoyed the game for the time i played it but to me it just got boring very quickly because all there is is the multiplayer combat, which while i understand appeals to some it just wasnt for me, just not enough outside content</quote> Sounds like you just don't like the game dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 2:58:11 PM #72:	Terra-enforcer posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... @darkphoenix181 @ThyCorndog posted... OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall Terra-enforcer posted... You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? can you get the cosmetic changes in sfiv for free? and when they add a new character, is that free like it is in overwatch? The characters is irrelevant since that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the hate those games get for the costumes alone. You can't get them in SFIV for free, but on average it costs MUCH less since you're guaranteed to get the costumes as opposed to playing lottery to maybe get your money's worth in Overwatch for a lot more money. Not to mention you can pay for fucking duplicates without even knowing until after the fact.. And you also conveniently ignored SFV and Gears I see. Both you can get their respective versions of lootboxes for free, and yet they still got tons of hate for having so much paid cosmetic changes. except in overwatch if you just want 1 costume you can just save up the in game currency and buy it outright for free but you also have a chance to get it in a lootbox as well --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879794456] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>@darkphoenix181 <cite>@ThyCorndog posted...</cite> <quote>OW skins literally don't matter dude. they don't make you better or worse at the game, they don't give you new abilities. they just look a little different. if you're playing overwatch and all you care about is how your character looks like rather than the gameplay, you're playing the wrong game. I would rather have this system where the dlc is useless garbage like sprays you're going to use once and then forget you had and skins you're gonna find cool for about 10 minutes and then stop caring about, rather than a system where actual game altering content is locked away behind a paywall</quote> <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>You also ignored my other examples. Why did SFIV or SFV or Battlefront or Gears 4, etc etc all get hate for having to pay for "cosmetic changes"? </quote></quote> can you get the cosmetic changes in sfiv for free? and when they add a new character, is that free like it is in overwatch?</quote> The characters is irrelevant since that's not what I'm referring to. I'm referring to the hate those games get for the costumes alone. You can't get them in SFIV for free, but on average it costs MUCH less since you're guaranteed to get the costumes as opposed to playing lottery to maybe get your money's worth in Overwatch for a lot more money. Not to mention you can pay for fucking duplicates without even knowing until after the fact.. And you also conveniently ignored SFV and Gears I see. Both you can get their respective versions of lootboxes for free, and yet they still got tons of hate for having so much paid cosmetic changes.</quote> except in overwatch if you just want 1 costume you can just save up the in game currency and buy it outright for free but you also have a chance to get it in a lootbox as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 2:58:29 PM #73:	@Gojak_v3 posted... I would much rather a developer use cosmetic items as a revenue stream than content as a revenue stream. Does that make sense now? Considering the hate for SFV's dlc costumes or GE4RS's lootboxes, no, it still makes no sense. Hence why I asked this question and I've only gotten excuses or non-answers for out of over 70 posts now. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879794478] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Gojak_v3 posted...</cite> <quote>I would much rather a developer use cosmetic items as a revenue stream than content as a revenue stream. Does that make sense now?</quote> Considering the hate for SFV's dlc costumes or GE4RS's lootboxes, no, it still makes no sense. Hence why I asked this question and I've only gotten excuses or non-answers for out of over 70 posts now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thisisboris2 05/25/17 2:58:46 PM #74:	Error1355 posted... thisisboris2 posted... personally i disagree for me the event skins were the only thing making me come back the game is $40 and at release there weren't too many maps, only quick play, and balancing was pretty weird early on too the game is all multiplayer fighting which while doesnt appeal to me too much and i enjoyed the game for the time i played it but to me it just got boring very quickly because all there is is the multiplayer combat, which while i understand appeals to some it just wasnt for me, just not enough outside content Sounds like you just don't like the game dude. yeah i just really didnt, i had fun with friends but it just got boring to me reallyfast --- i dunno why but yall are cray cray coocoo heads <cite>thisisboris2 posted [p:879794494] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Error1355 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thisisboris2 posted...</cite> <quote>personally i disagree for me the event skins were the only thing making me come back the game is $40 and at release there weren't too many maps, only quick play, and balancing was pretty weird early on too the game is all multiplayer fighting which while doesnt appeal to me too much and i enjoyed the game for the time i played it but to me it just got boring very quickly because all there is is the multiplayer combat, which while i understand appeals to some it just wasnt for me, just not enough outside content</quote> Sounds like you just don't like the game dude.</quote> yeah i just really didnt, i had fun with friends but it just got boring to me reallyfast</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:01:48 PM #75:	darkphoenix181 posted... except in overwatch if you just want 1 costume you can just save up the in game currency and buy it outright for free but you also have a chance to get it in a lootbox as well First off, you're just assuming 1 costume. If you want any more than that, you're going to have to pray to the RNG gods or fuck off and play for another 100 hours. And again, you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up." --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879794661] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>except in overwatch if you just want 1 costume you can just save up the in game currency and buy it outright for free but you also have a chance to get it in a lootbox as well </quote> First off, you're just assuming 1 costume. If you want any more than that, you're going to have to pray to the RNG gods or fuck off and play for another 100 hours. And again, you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 05/25/17 3:03:56 PM #76:	It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:879794807] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 3:05:29 PM #77:	Terra-enforcer posted... darkphoenix181 posted... except in overwatch if you just want 1 costume you can just save up the in game currency and buy it outright for free but you also have a chance to get it in a lootbox as well First off, you're just assuming 1 costume. If you want any more than that, you're going to have to pray to the RNG gods or fuck off and play for another 100 hours. And again, you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up." I don't understand your argument as i never play SFV. Are they free or do you have to buy them? If they are free then what is the issue? What is the complaint? If they on the otherhand are like $1.99 a pop and you have no other way to get them, then obviously Overwatch is the clear winner. --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879794905] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>except in overwatch if you just want 1 costume you can just save up the in game currency and buy it outright for free but you also have a chance to get it in a lootbox as well </quote> First off, you're just assuming 1 costume. If you want any more than that, you're going to have to pray to the RNG gods or fuck off and play for another 100 hours. And again, you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up."</quote> I don't understand your argument as i never play SFV. Are they free or do you have to buy them? If they are free then what is the issue? What is the complaint? If they on the otherhand are like $1.99 a pop and you have no other way to get them, then obviously Overwatch is the clear winner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 05/25/17 3:05:46 PM #78:	Compare the Halloween skins to the recent skins from the Uprising event. Halloween had a lot more interesting skins and only a few of them were legendary, more were rare. The uprising skins were almost all legendary. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:879794927] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>Compare the Halloween skins to the recent skins from the Uprising event. Halloween had a lot more interesting skins and only a few of them were legendary, more were rare. The uprising skins were almost all legendary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:06:19 PM #79:	SGT_Conti posted... It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes. If you only want one or two costumes, sure. But as I said in the OP, this was actually calculated out, and assuming you get no duplicates, it would take a person 267 lootboxes to unlock all of the characters for this event. And you're also not including in your own metric that I'm referring to this event specifically. How many hours did it take you for THIS event to get every item you wanted? --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879794956] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote>It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes.</quote> If you only want one or two costumes, sure. But as I said in the OP, this was actually calculated out, and assuming you get no duplicates, it would take a person 267 lootboxes to unlock all of the characters for this event. And you're also not including in your own metric that I'm referring to this event specifically. How many hours did it take you for THIS event to get every item you wanted?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 05/25/17 3:10:22 PM #81:	Terra-enforcer posted... SGT_Conti posted... It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes. If you only want one or two costumes, sure. But as I said in the OP, this was actually calculated out, and assuming you get no duplicates, it would take a person 267 lootboxes to unlock all of the characters for this event. And you're also not including in your own metric that I'm referring to this event specifically. How many hours did it take you for THIS event to get every item you wanted? didn't the event just start like yesterday? so the issue is want the skin NOW NOW NOW? like you actually want to pay $5 to get the skin you want and you want them all so you would love to pay like hundreds of dollars just for this event? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879795163] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote>It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes.</quote> If you only want one or two costumes, sure. But as I said in the OP, this was actually calculated out, and assuming you get no duplicates, it would take a person 267 lootboxes to unlock all of the characters for this event. And you're also not including in your own metric that I'm referring to this event specifically. How many hours did it take you for THIS event to get every item you wanted?</quote> didn't the event just start like yesterday? so the issue is want the skin NOW NOW NOW? like you actually want to pay $5 to get the skin you want and you want them all so you would love to pay like hundreds of dollars just for this event?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:10:26 PM #82:	ClunkerSlim posted... ClunkerSlim posted... This is why Overwatch DLC isn't scummy! 1. It's all cosmetic that doesn't affect the game in any way. 2. It pays for continued support... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcS5CH0dk6k Already responded to this a good four or five times now. Terra-enforcer posted... you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up." --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879795166] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClunkerSlim posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ClunkerSlim posted...</cite> <quote>This is why Overwatch DLC isn't scummy! 1. It's all cosmetic that doesn't affect the game in any way. 2. It pays for continued support... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcS5CH0dk6k</quote></quote> Already responded to this a good four or five times now. <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote> you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up." </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:13:07 PM #83:	darkphoenix181 posted... Terra-enforcer posted... SGT_Conti posted... It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes. If you only want one or two costumes, sure. But as I said in the OP, this was actually calculated out, and assuming you get no duplicates, it would take a person 267 lootboxes to unlock all of the characters for this event. And you're also not including in your own metric that I'm referring to this event specifically. How many hours did it take you for THIS event to get every item you wanted? didn't the event just start like yesterday? so the issue is want the skin NOW NOW NOW? like you actually want to pay $5 to get the skin you want and you want them all so you would love to pay like hundreds of dollars just for this event? Stop grasping for straws "Now now now" wasn't even alluded to in the slightest. It's getting them in general. Hell, I said it would take an average of 300 hours to get everything, so it makes no fucking sense to assume I meant "now." And you still never responded to the bulk of my argument. Terra-enforcer posted... you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up." The way the system is now, you'll have to pay a lot more than even $100 to get all the costumes. And your argument is pretty flawed. I'm arguing the principle, not what I want specifically. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879795288] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote>It's not going to take you 100 hours to either get enough currency to buy a costume or get it in a box, bro. I get most of what I want and I probably have around 200 hours in the game total. I've felt zero need to spend actual money buying lootboxes.</quote> If you only want one or two costumes, sure. But as I said in the OP, this was actually calculated out, and assuming you get no duplicates, it would take a person 267 lootboxes to unlock all of the characters for this event. And you're also not including in your own metric that I'm referring to this event specifically. How many hours did it take you for THIS event to get every item you wanted?</quote> didn't the event just start like yesterday? so the issue is want the skin NOW NOW NOW? like you actually want to pay $5 to get the skin you want and you want them all so you would love to pay like hundreds of dollars just for this event?</quote> Stop grasping for straws "Now now now" wasn't even alluded to in the slightest. It's getting them in general. Hell, I said it would take an average of 300 hours to get everything, so it makes no fucking sense to assume I meant "now." And you still never responded to the bulk of my argument. <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up."</quote> The way the system is now, you'll have to pay a lot more than even $100 to get all the costumes. And your argument is pretty flawed. I'm arguing the principle, not what I want specifically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 05/25/17 3:15:07 PM #84:	You don't need all the costumes. The game PLAYS the same regardless if you have them or not. If you want all the costumes it's going to cost you time or money. The game is not intended for you to get all of everything. This is an entire non-issue. --- This life is just a game we play, that we can never win. But don't give up, no don't give up. <cite>Error1355 posted [p:879795396] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>You don't need all the costumes. The game PLAYS the same regardless if you have them or not. If you want all the costumes it's going to cost you time or money. The game is not intended for you to get all of everything. This is an entire non-issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/25/17 3:16:07 PM #85:	And you're just pulling that 300 hour number out of your ass --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:879795443] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>And you're just pulling that 300 hour number out of your ass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bringit 05/25/17 3:16:18 PM #86:	Terra-enforcer posted... And again, you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up." Not familar with SF5 so correct me if my assumptions are wrong here. The difference for me with Overwatch is that due to the cosmetic-only microtransaction system, we are able to to get the substantial content such as modes, maps and characters for free which AFAIK isn't true for SF5 (though I vaguely recall you can earn them maybe?). This works great for a couple reasons -- First it ensures Blizzard are making enough profit off the game they can keep pumping out new essential content without even really having to hesitate about it and second it keeps the community on a level field, nobody gets segregated for matchmaking and the balance doesn't get fucked up based on which DLC you do or don't have. The latter being an issue that killed the new Battlefront dead. It really fucking sucks that I don't always get the skins I want but so far I haven't dropped a dime on OW since the base game launched a year ago and I have access to 3 new characters, a bunch of modes, several maps and lots of new cosmetic items that didn't even exist back then. It beats having to pay for each individual thing or waiting for some kind of expansion which then eventually splinters the playerbase and thus overall is a good trade-off, or has been so far. Who knows what they'll do in the future and I do feel Blizz could be a little more generous with lootboxes, especially during events. --- "All will be well." <cite>Bringit posted [p:879795454] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>And again, you keep ignoring STREET FIGHTER V. Not sure how many times I have to mention it. It's like you're intentionally ignoring that because it shows a flaw in your logic. People complain a lot about SFV, but people complain in particular about the costume treatment as well even though they are entirely free and you can actually choose what you want as opposed to playing the lottery for it. I don't even see how "free" is a proper explanation when you aren't simply choosing what you want. You are GAMBLING for it, so it's not the normal kind of free. It's "maybe it's free if you got lucky, otherwise pay the fuck up."</quote> Not familar with SF5 so correct me if my assumptions are wrong here. The difference for me with Overwatch is that due to the cosmetic-only microtransaction system, we are able to to get the substantial content such as modes, maps and characters for free which AFAIK isn't true for SF5 (though I vaguely recall you can earn them maybe?). This works great for a couple reasons -- First it ensures Blizzard are making enough profit off the game they can keep pumping out new essential content without even really having to hesitate about it and second it keeps the community on a level field, nobody gets segregated for matchmaking and the balance doesn't get fucked up based on which DLC you do or don't have. The latter being an issue that killed the new Battlefront dead. It really fucking sucks that I don't always get the skins I want but so far I haven't dropped a dime on OW since the base game launched a year ago and I have access to 3 new characters, a bunch of modes, several maps and lots of new cosmetic items that didn't even exist back then. It beats having to pay for each individual thing or waiting for some kind of expansion which then eventually splinters the playerbase and thus overall is a good trade-off, or has been so far. Who knows what they'll do in the future and I do feel Blizz could be a little more generous with lootboxes, especially during events.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 3:17:42 PM #87:	you have no argument explain what sfv did that is so similar that you can make the comparison how often did you get currency in sfv? Terra-enforcer posted... The way the system is now, you'll have to pay a lot more than even $100 to get all the costumes. this is a lie and you know it --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879795542] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>you have no argument explain what sfv did that is so similar that you can make the comparison how often did you get currency in sfv? <cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote>The way the system is now, you'll have to pay a lot more than even $100 to get all the costumes.</quote> this is a lie and you know it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:17:45 PM #88:	@Error1355 posted... You don't need all the costumes. The game PLAYS the same regardless if you have them or not. If you want all the costumes it's going to cost you time or money. The game is not intended for you to get all of everything. This is an entire non-issue. Again, so does SFV without its costumes. Why do you keep ignoring this??? --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879795545] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Error1355 posted...</cite> <quote>You don't need all the costumes. The game PLAYS the same regardless if you have them or not. If you want all the costumes it's going to cost you time or money. The game is not intended for you to get all of everything. This is an entire non-issue.</quote> Again, so does SFV without its costumes. Why do you keep ignoring this???</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/25/17 3:17:47 PM #89:	Bringit posted... It really fucking sucks that I don't always get the skins I want this never happens to me because there are usually only 1-3 skins I like for each event, and its pretty easy to save up the money for that imho --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:879795546] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bringit posted...</cite> <quote>It really fucking sucks that I don't always get the skins I want</quote> this never happens to me because there are usually only 1-3 skins I like for each event, and its pretty easy to save up the money for that imho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bringit 05/25/17 3:20:58 PM #90:	Balrog0 posted... this never happens to me because there are usually only 1-3 skins I like for each event, and its pretty easy to save up the money for that imho I got two from the Uprising event, only one of them legendary for a character I only play in random heroes but my friend who I partner up with all the time literally got all of them. Same amount of boxes opened too. It was a sad time for me. --- "All will be well." <cite>Bringit posted [p:879795714] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Balrog0 posted...</cite> <quote>this never happens to me because there are usually only 1-3 skins I like for each event, and its pretty easy to save up the money for that imho</quote> I got two from the Uprising event, only one of them legendary for a character I only play in random heroes but my friend who I partner up with all the time literally got all of them. Same amount of boxes opened too. It was a sad time for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/25/17 3:21:59 PM #91:	yeah I do get lucky too for instance, I got a ton of legendaries during the xmas event and I dont even like most of them lol --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:879795775] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>yeah I do get lucky too for instance, I got a ton of legendaries during the xmas event and I dont even like most of them lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:22:05 PM #92:	darkphoenix181 posted... you have no argument explain what sfv did that is so similar that you can make the comparison how often did you get currency in sfv? You ignoring my argument does NOT negate its existence. Funny how you say that when this entire time you've been either dodging my points or making excuses. In SFV you get points from most things in the game. Every mode, and daily challenges. And some modes like the Story mode give you thousands of points at once just for beating it. So currency is by no means scarce. darkphoenix181 posted... this is a lie and you know it I literally gave you the math. At $40 for 50 boxes, you're paying an average of $240 for everything. If anything I made a gross underestimation. Sure not everyone wants all the DLC, but that's what you'd be paying as opposed to a one $20 or $30 fee for all of it as it costs in similar models. That's also not taking in to consideration duplicates, so if anything I'm giving you a hefty handicap since duplicates are far from uncommon. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879795781] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>you have no argument explain what sfv did that is so similar that you can make the comparison how often did you get currency in sfv? </quote> You ignoring my argument does NOT negate its existence. Funny how you say that when this entire time you've been either dodging my points or making excuses. In SFV you get points from most things in the game. Every mode, and daily challenges. And some modes like the Story mode give you thousands of points at once just for beating it. So currency is by no means scarce. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote>this is a lie and you know it</quote> I literally gave you the math. At $40 for 50 boxes, you're paying an average of $240 for everything. If anything I made a gross underestimation. Sure not everyone wants all the DLC, but that's what you'd be paying as opposed to a one $20 or $30 fee for all of it as it costs in similar models. That's also not taking in to consideration duplicates, so if anything I'm giving you a hefty handicap since duplicates are far from uncommon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 05/25/17 3:22:25 PM #93:	Error1355 posted... You don't need all the costumes. The game PLAYS the same regardless if you have them or not. If you want all the costumes it's going to cost you time or money. The game is not intended for you to get all of everything. This is an entire non-issue. I think the difference is that these kinds of things used to be unlockable through gameplay instead of random chance loot boxes you have to grind more for than you would otherwise. Also the fact that cosmetic content is very easy to make yet is sold for so much money is an issue of business ethics and calls into question just how acceptable it is to create artificial demand from essentially thin air. There's also the fact that you used to be able even more recently to just outright buy exactly what cosmetic items you wanted instead of having to go through a gambling system for it (though I'm basing this off Gears 4 and don't know if overwatch allows it). --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:879795798] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Error1355 posted...</cite> <quote>You don't need all the costumes. The game PLAYS the same regardless if you have them or not. If you want all the costumes it's going to cost you time or money. The game is not intended for you to get all of everything. This is an entire non-issue.</quote> I think the difference is that these kinds of things used to be unlockable through gameplay instead of random chance loot boxes you have to grind more for than you would otherwise. Also the fact that cosmetic content is very easy to make yet is sold for so much money is an issue of business ethics and calls into question just how acceptable it is to create artificial demand from essentially thin air. There's also the fact that you used to be able even more recently to just outright buy exactly what cosmetic items you wanted instead of having to go through a gambling system for it (though I'm basing this off Gears 4 and don't know if overwatch allows it).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuffledPeanuts 05/25/17 3:23:38 PM #94:	I unlocked a third of those skins in the span of one day. Arcade mode allows for a lot of unlocking and it's very possible to save up credits from old loot boxes. People have also complained plenty about the fact that items are locked to loot boxes and you can't purchase them separately so I'm not sure how they "got off leniently". They have also given out a lot of free DLC, these cosmetic items included, which is much more compared to most companies. I don't see how they deserve the same complaints as Street Fighter or Call of Duty. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/AJSadler/RuffledPeanuts.jpg <cite>RuffledPeanuts posted [p:879795875] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>I unlocked a third of those skins in the span of one day. Arcade mode allows for a lot of unlocking and it's very possible to save up credits from old loot boxes. People have also complained plenty about the fact that items are locked to loot boxes and you can't purchase them separately so I'm not sure how they "got off leniently". They have also given out a lot of free DLC, these cosmetic items included, which is much more compared to most companies. I don't see how they deserve the same complaints as Street Fighter or Call of Duty.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 05/25/17 3:23:41 PM #95:	Everything unlockable is purely cosmetic The game gives you several ways to win loot (multiple wins in arcade mode, currency and exp building) The timed event ones kinda suck, but in terms of DLC, this is clearly one of the better ways to do it Are people seriously complaining about having to grind to unlock cool shit? How did y'all handle the super smash bros are dragon ball z series? Metal gear solid?! As for the SFV comparison, yeah you get to choose, but as an onwer of both, the amount you have to grind to unlock even a costume is absurd. Let's not even start with characters and stages. --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:879795877] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>Everything unlockable is purely cosmetic The game gives you several ways to win loot (multiple wins in arcade mode, currency and exp building) The timed event ones kinda suck, but in terms of DLC, this is clearly one of the better ways to do it Are people seriously complaining about having to grind to unlock cool shit? How did y'all handle the super smash bros are dragon ball z series? Metal gear solid?! As for the SFV comparison, yeah you get to choose, but as an onwer of both, the amount you have to grind to unlock even a costume is absurd. Let's not even start with characters and stages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/25/17 3:26:29 PM #96:	RuffledPeanuts posted... I don't see how they deserve the same complaints as Street Fighter or Call of Duty. In SFV you could unlock ALL of the last Holiday's costumes with relative ease. It still got hate. And you can't use luck as an argument. Assuming you aren't lying, you are by FAR an outlier, and it's not even close. --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879796032] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>RuffledPeanuts posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see how they deserve the same complaints as Street Fighter or Call of Duty.</quote> In SFV you could unlock ALL of the last Holiday's costumes with relative ease. It still got hate. And you can't use luck as an argument. Assuming you aren't lying, you are by FAR an outlier, and it's not even close.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 3:28:13 PM #97:	https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/75379186/879685989 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/73944270/855231588 so tc is being disingenuous and indeed has no argument apparently according to this post SFV locks actual gameplay behind their free currency and you actually cannot use free currency to buy the costumes that is the OPPOSITE of overwatch tc since when I pressed him about how SFV does it and he wouldn't be bothered to explain, had to look up what people said on SFV board Premium costumes $4 with no way to NOT use real money overwatch lets you use free currency --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879796143] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/75379186/879685989 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/73944270/855231588 so tc is being disingenuous and indeed has no argument apparently according to this post SFV locks actual gameplay behind their free currency and you actually cannot use free currency to buy the costumes that is the OPPOSITE of overwatch tc since when I pressed him about how SFV does it and he wouldn't be bothered to explain, had to look up what people said on SFV board Premium costumes $4 with no way to NOT use real money overwatch lets you use free currency</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuffledPeanuts 05/25/17 3:29:34 PM #98:	Terra-enforcer posted... RuffledPeanuts posted... I don't see how they deserve the same complaints as Street Fighter or Call of Duty. In SFV you could unlock ALL of the last Holiday's costumes with relative ease. It still got hate. And you can't use luck as an argument. Assuming you aren't lying, you are by FAR an outlier, and it's not even close. Every Overwatch player knew that this event was coming and had ample opportunity to save up as many credits as they could in anticipation for the event. I only saved 3000 so I purchased Lucio's skin right away. I'm not the outlier as plenty of players (That I talked to in game) saved even more than me. It's mind-blowing that the main complaint is that Blizzard is giving out too much free content ~~(You are not forced to buy any loot boxes)~~. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/AJSadler/RuffledPeanuts.jpg <cite>RuffledPeanuts posted [p:879796223] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RuffledPeanuts posted...</cite> <quote>I don't see how they deserve the same complaints as Street Fighter or Call of Duty.</quote> In SFV you could unlock ALL of the last Holiday's costumes with relative ease. It still got hate. And you can't use luck as an argument. Assuming you aren't lying, you are by FAR an outlier, and it's not even close.</quote> Every Overwatch player knew that this event was coming and had ample opportunity to save up as many credits as they could in anticipation for the event. I only saved 3000 so I purchased Lucio's skin right away. I'm not the outlier as plenty of players (That I talked to in game) saved even more than me. It's mind-blowing that the main complaint is that Blizzard is giving out too much free content (You are not forced to buy any loot boxes).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 05/25/17 3:29:45 PM #99:	BeantownHero posted... As for the SFV comparison, yeah you get to choose, but as an onwer of both, the amount you have to grind to unlock even a costume is absurd. Let's not even start with characters and stages. so tc why were you lying? --- sigless user is me or am I? <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:879796237] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote><cite>BeantownHero posted...</cite> <quote>As for the SFV comparison, yeah you get to choose, but as an onwer of both, the amount you have to grind to unlock even a costume is absurd. Let's not even start with characters and stages.</quote> so tc why were you lying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 05/25/17 3:30:44 PM #100:	After a year of playing Overwatch, without spending a dime of my own money and by playing during events, have unlocked a gold skin for all but two characters in the game (and multiple characters have several gold skins unlocked). That's not even counting emotes, highlight intros and voice lines Can anyone playing SFV say they've unlocked nearly that much grinding for a year? The zenny grind in SFV is a joke and was a major point of contention upon release --- nothing is a greater tell of an awful human than using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative. without exception.- Bomani Jones <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:879796294] in Why Does O... [t:75385622]...</cite> <quote>After a year of playing Overwatch, without spending a dime of my own money and by playing during events, have unlocked a gold skin for all but two characters in the game (and multiple characters have several gold skins unlocked). That's not even counting emotes, highlight intros and voice lines Can anyone playing SFV say they've unlocked nearly that much grinding for a year? The zenny grind in SFV is a joke and was a major point of contention upon release</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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