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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 1:41:45 AM
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Wins the contest and then knocked out in the first round the next time around?

Pathetic showing. It was exposed for the trash that it is.
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OliviaTremor
05/12/17 1:43:00 AM
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Nah it's a pretty good game and your obsession with it is funny.
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TheRock1525
05/12/17 1:43:38 AM
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I thought this is best year in gaming.
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 1:44:17 AM
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OliviaTremor posted...
Nah it's a pretty good game and your obsession with it is funny.


I meant trash as in weakness in a contest setting.

But yes, it is also trash as a game.
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 1:47:36 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I thought this is best year in gaming.


Yes, but the years go as their strongest game goes, which is why 1998 is the overwhelming favorite to win.

Undertale should've been 2015's strongest game (though it's clearly the mighty Rocket League), and 2015 just lost in miserable fashion.
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OliviaTremor
05/12/17 1:48:09 AM
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Have you played Undertale? It's pretty good, especially if you like bullet hell games and good music.
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InsaneGamer137
05/12/17 1:51:57 AM
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OliviaTremor posted...
Have you played Undertale? It's pretty good, especially if you like bullet hell games and good music.

I will NEVER play Undertale.
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Jeff Zero
05/12/17 1:54:47 AM
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It's pretty good at what it aims to achieve. I didn't much care for it, but it's not really my kind of story. The story it sought to tell, however, is very well-told, and the music's pretty solid. (I'm not into bullet hell, so the combat didn't click with me.)
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Justin2Krelian
05/12/17 1:54:49 AM
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Didn't League of Legends not even make it in?
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 1:55:59 AM
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Eeeh I feel like LoL would've had to be in the contest and lose, it never got a chance for a title defense.
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 1:56:46 AM
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The only thing about Undertale that isn't hot garbage is the music, and even that is overrated (Megalovania the only stand out)
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OliviaTremor
05/12/17 1:57:06 AM
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Ignoring the fanbase, why? Does the gameplay not appeal to you? Do you not like the music or character designs? Are you turned off by a Mother 3 type story? There's a demo of the game you could try for free. It seems weird that you're adamantly against it for reasons that may not have anything to do with the quality of the game.
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Averia
05/12/17 1:59:24 AM
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Undertale is going to be far weaker than last contest but that match, the loser was more 2015 than Undertale.
Rallying for a a specific game out of a year is probably far harder since you don't actually vote for that game. (also people could considere Undertale the best game ever while not considered the year as the best).

You could have bundled LoL and Melee and Starcraft in, I doubt there would have been a rally either.

And If you are talking about contest strength without rallying, Undertale is very weak but I think everyone knows it.
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Justin2Krelian
05/12/17 2:01:52 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
The only thing about Undertale that isn't hot garbage is the music, and even that is overrated (Megalovania the only stand out)


"Hopes and Dreams" is pretty awesome
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TheRock1525
05/12/17 2:04:12 AM
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I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory
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MoogleKupo141
05/12/17 2:05:17 AM
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this doesn't indicate anything about how Undertale might perform in another game contest

no one cares enough to rally for the year 2015 like they do Undertale
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haloiscoolisbak
05/12/17 2:09:45 AM
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Can totally picture sballen hi fiving and popping champagne in his office with his lead mods when it was clear 2015 wasn't getting a rally
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OliviaTremor
05/12/17 2:12:00 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory


I'd argue pretty heavily that I love the gameplay, in particular the battle system. I love difficult platformers and bullet hell games so I really enjoyed the gameplay. Plus, the battle system during the final genocide boss sequence is one of the more fun platforming... things... I've beaten in a game.
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foolm0r0n
05/12/17 2:13:08 AM
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No because Undertale wasn't in the contest you spergmonster
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Eddv
05/12/17 2:27:51 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory


Did the latte burn when your fedora fell off and knocked it into your lap as you wrote that jesus christ.
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MariaTaylor
05/12/17 2:52:18 AM
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undertale is okay

Eddv posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory


Did the latte burn when your fedora fell off and knocked it into your lap as you wrote that jesus christ.


XFD
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foolm0r0n
05/12/17 2:56:14 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory

Yes

The game focused on one emotion and nailed it 1000%: surprise

Fuck the haters who think it's too nerdy/lame to think of games deeply in this way
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NBIceman
05/12/17 2:59:56 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory

Okay, fine, but that alone doesn't make it fun or good.

I don't particularly care for the game but I'm surprised to see anyone calling the soundtrack overrated. At minimum, it's very good.
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Steiner
05/12/17 3:01:43 AM
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imagine still taking extha seriously
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SovietOmega
05/12/17 3:24:45 AM
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Steiner posted...
imagine still taking extha seriously

The things people do to unlock alternate routes...
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Ngamer64
05/12/17 3:44:11 AM
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Just wait till you get a load of Draven v Wolverine in 2018's R1.


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TheRock1525
05/12/17 9:22:51 AM
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Eddv posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory


Did the latte burn when your fedora fell off and knocked it into your lap as you wrote that jesus christ.


By all means, would love to hear what your imaginative games the past decade are.
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TheRock1525
05/12/17 9:30:47 AM
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foolm0r0n posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory

Yes

The game focused on one emotion and nailed it 1000%: surprise

Fuck the haters who think it's too nerdy/lame to think of games deeply in this way


It's funny because someone above post about how they love the battle system and I'd argue it doesn't even really have a battle system.

Battle systems are usually based concepts like stats, strengths/weaknesses, various offensive attacks and yet the game's only got one type of attack (a physical one). Also, the fact that the attack itself is also wildly consistent. In the battle with Toriel the attack power is rather consistent... until you do a massive amount of damage and kill her. In the battle with Sans you literally do no damage and miss every time until the very end. I mean for standard random encounters I guess it applies, but only if your goal is to kill (or if you still don't understand so far into the game that you don't need to kill). And the bullet hell stuff is basically all defensive.

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trdl23
05/12/17 10:04:34 AM
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Averia posted...
also people could considere Undertale the best game ever while not considered the year as the best)

*raises hand*
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FlyingForever
05/12/17 10:12:44 AM
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Tell me ExTha do you need a hug

Did undertale hurt your feelings:(
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 1:49:53 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
By all means, would love to hear what your imaginative games the past decade are.


ROCKET LEAGUE
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OliviaTremor
05/12/17 1:56:20 PM
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Oh god jesus christ with the semantics regarding 'battle system'. You even use the term 'usually' when referring to your definition of battle system. Even dropping the whole battle system definition thing the point of my post was saying that I really enjoyed the gameplay during battles. Are you going to say 'I would argue there are no battles' now?
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foolm0r0n
05/12/17 2:07:20 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I'd argue it doesn't even really have a battle system

The talking system is definitely a full battle system, and attacking is just part of it

But yes the narrative often takes over the battles
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TheRock1525
05/12/17 2:08:05 PM
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OliviaTremor posted...
Oh god jesus christ with the semantics regarding 'battle system'. You even use the term 'usually' when referring to your definition of battle system. Even dropping the whole battle system definition thing the point of my post was saying that I really enjoyed the gameplay during battles. Are you going to say 'I would argue there are no battles' now?


If you play the game a certain way, you literally fight one enemy the entire time. So yeah it's not really a battle system then.

They're not really battles and more puzzles.

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Lopen
05/12/17 2:08:09 PM
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Eddv posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory


Did the latte burn when your fedora fell off and knocked it into your lap as you wrote that jesus christ.


Yesssss
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GranzonEx
05/12/17 2:13:51 PM
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Eddv posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean Undertale is less a game and more a deconstruction of what we expect in games, so while the novelty of the story and characters might explain why tumblr latched onto it, its real strength is all about its ability to mislead players.

Basically Undertale is one of the few truly imaginative games in recent memory


Did the latte burn when your fedora fell off and knocked it into your lap as you wrote that jesus christ.

jesus fucking christ
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Safer_777
05/12/17 2:24:35 PM
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I thought this contest was about Best Year In Gaming and not Best Game Ever?
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05/12/17 2:30:52 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
the music, and even that is overrated (Megalovania the only stand out)




Honestly Megalovania(while very good) is the overrated theme. There's so many great themes in the game but everyone loses their load over that.
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OliviaTremor
05/12/17 2:34:21 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
Oh god jesus christ with the semantics regarding 'battle system'. You even use the term 'usually' when referring to your definition of battle system. Even dropping the whole battle system definition thing the point of my post was saying that I really enjoyed the gameplay during battles. Are you going to say 'I would argue there are no battles' now?


If you play the game a certain way, you literally fight one enemy the entire time. So yeah it's not really a battle system then.

They're not really battles and more puzzles.


Call it whatever the fuck you want. I enjoy the gameplay during the segments of the game where you confront other people a menu is brought up with a picture of your opponent and you are able to fight them, talk with them or spare them and I particularly enjoy the gameplay during the segments where you defend yourself.

It's fucking ridiculous that you are harping over terminology.
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RPGlord95
05/12/17 2:35:13 PM
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Undertale smells bad and people that like it might also smell bad. I'm not sure. I don't smell people often. I mean a really smelly person you can smell without trying but a normal person you would have to get pretty close. Getting that close and sniffing seems like it could lead to big problems. I mean if some random guy smelled you to see if you liked Undertale how would you take it? I guess my point is that smell is a pretty good sense. I would rate it below taste.
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Metal_DK
05/12/17 2:37:51 PM
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underteezy was a great game, enjoyed it thoroughly. One of about 20 games since the Casual Revolution of 2007 worth a god damn
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Tom Bombadil
05/12/17 2:43:14 PM
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Wait till the kiddies come home.
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foolm0r0n
05/12/17 3:00:07 PM
#43:


Metal_DK posted...
underteezy was a great game, enjoyed it thoroughly. One of about 20 games since the Casual Revolution of 2007 worth a god damn

It started development in December 2006
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XIII_rocks
05/12/17 3:04:43 PM
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Honestly 2009 losing was a far better thing to happen if we're going down this road.

UT wasn't openly vindictive and mean-spirited in nature, and didn't "cheat".
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Lopen
05/12/17 3:13:47 PM
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If you believe Draven cheated you should believe Undertale cheated if you're consistent. Pretty much just as suspicious there.
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 3:14:43 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
It started development in December 2006


imagine taking 9 years to develop and produce a game in RPG Maker rofl
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foolm0r0n
05/12/17 3:18:49 PM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
imagine taking 9 years to develop and produce a game in RPG Maker rofl

I don't have to imagine, rocket league exists already
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ExThaNemesis
05/12/17 3:20:18 PM
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I am a level 57 Master in Rocket League hbu
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paperwarior
05/12/17 3:34:43 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
imagine taking 9 years to develop and produce a game in RPG Maker rofl

I don't have to imagine, rocket league exists already

It was developed in RPG Maker?!
Also, I can imagine that because I played Jojo 7th Stand User, which is the product of that sort of project. And it's a disaster, but it has incredible attention to detail and is often really entertaining.
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foolm0r0n
05/12/17 3:39:51 PM
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paperwarior posted...
It was developed in RPG Maker?!

nope
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