Current Events > So, it's been roughly one year since I first started taking hormones.

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AugustAdoulin posted...

FrenchCrunch posted...

and she isn't a crazy trump supporter so there is that. :o So I'd rank TC above Sayoria easily.

sayoria is a bad enough poster that you dont have to make shit up about her

Someone else posted it about her, I'm just repeating what I heard. I wasn't here then but they said she made a bunch of crazy threads during the election about Trump.

That's stupid and it's a big part of why this board is shit. Don't post hearsay.
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Whoa. I'm gone for one day and suddenly get 25 replies to my topic?

Anyway, I wasn't expecting all the support I got in this topic. Seeing all this encouragement actually helped me feel a lot better. ^_^

Vyrulisse posted...

Perhaps as a base but there are many things you can do to change how you look if that is your wish. A style change would do wonders for superficial changes, and there are surgeries you can pursue if you have the means. Just don't give up or get down on yourself. Being honest you don't look bad, your style is not mine but that's another conversation for another day. :P

Well, like I said, there's not that much I can wear... And as far as I know, there's just facial reconstruction surgery and breast implants, right? Facial feminization would be the most important thing, if it could it make me look more feminine.

Someone I know suggested I get breast implants first and foremost, but if I don't look like a girl, I'll just look like a guy with breasts. ;_; Are there any other kinds of surgeries I'm unaware of? Or just those two?

Just try to stay positive about it.

Someone said to me just tonight: "You're more negative than the bottom of a battery." But I'll try not to give up. ^^;;

HitTheGroundWal posted...

A couple things. YOu have really nice skin, and love the bedspread.

That reminds me of something that happened at work awhile ago. Me and a couple of coworkers were unloading pallets, and there's this one girl who works in the back room with me. While we were finishing up she says, "You're so lovely." I was like, "Hm?" And she was like, "You look so lovely. Your hair is so nice, and your skin is so nice." I was completely surprised by that. And I'm glad you like the bedspread too! ^^ I got it out of my love for rainbows.

And some people who were born with female parts have masculine features. Broad shoulders and all that. I don't look at you and think 'man', I think 'somewhat masculine woman' and there's a biiiiiiiiiig difference between the two. I think you're being your own worst critic here.

Hm... "masculine woman"...? Do you mean like, a woman that looks like a guy?

Patty_Fleur posted...

Do you date boys or girls?

I wouldn't mind dating boys or girls. I'm physically attracted to girls, but there can be an attraction to guys. but it's usually going to be emotional. Usually. Sometimes I can find a guy cute, but usually if I end up liking them it's because something about their personality ends up slowly winning me over. Now the only problem is finding anyone that will actually date me... ;_;

Foppe posted...

You are no 10. Lookwise, I honestly see nothing that would make me skip a date with you.
And Im sure that your legs looks good both not completely and completely covered.

I appreciate that honesty. And um... thanks. ^^;;
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Kaninchen posted...

That's a nice skirt. Where did you get it? My girlfriend likes that kind of stuff.

With a better shirt, it'd look great.

That's one of the best shirts I have... I dunno what would look better. ;_; But I got it off Poshmark. It's a little thing where you can buy and sell outfits. Like eBay, but strictly clothes.

ReignFury posted...

Wow TC youve really oversold your issues, you might have body dismorphia but I definitely think you look more like a woman than and guy dressing as a woman. Im surprised youre not happy with you progress, your final result should be really good. Also BJJ will thicken your hands and forearms from clinching, stick with yoga if youre worried about bulking.

Most of the truly cute and feminine ones looked like girls before they even started... But I hope you're right. ^^ And I'm already bulky, so that's good advice to know.

AugustAdoulin posted...

I like your skirt! Don't get rid of it :o I'm not trans, but I work with a lot of women, and maybe you could try using a body shaper or something like? Spanx o r a corset like thing. You might be able to get a bit more of a feminine shape with that. It is all about proportions. Even if your legs and shoulders are big, a smaller waist would help balance it out

And your face is pretty enough as it is!

Aw, thank you! Well, if you guys think I should keep it... I've never heard of "spanx", but I have heard of others using corsets. I actually knew someone who was trying to become a girl and they used a corset. It couldn't hurt to get one...

QuantumScript posted...

you could potentially pull off a brunette jodie foster type of look down the road but right now you still look like a dude.

Finally, someone who believes what I've been saying. ;_; But in all honesty, if I don't look like a girl now, I probably never will. Like I said, hormones can't change that much, and I'm now at the halfway point. It takes 2 years to see the maximum effect of hormones, and I've just passed one year. I doubt one more year will make much of a difference, but we'll see.

TyYoshi posted...

Pretty sure you could get "str8" guys easily. I always wanted to become female as a young one but just grew up to be... a regular gay >_> Slightly jelly. Good luck though.

Ah, there's nothing about me to be jealous of. And yeah, when I'm out, I kinda hope guys find me attractive. Or girls. Basically, anyone that's attracted to girls. ^^; And thanks.

FrenchCrunch posted...

i would say you look more feminine than sayoria does

She can actually go to a beach wearing a swimsuit, so I know I don't look anywhere near as feminine as she does... But thank you.



So, since a lot of you suggested I try wearing something different, and went got the other outfit. Seriously, this is pretty much the only other thing I've got.







But since I know nothing about fashion or style, I have no idea if this is any better, or looks even worse. ;_; But you can get a slightly better idea what sort of body type I'm working with.
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And there we got some legs.
I must say that I like that skirt. And I see no problems with those hands, arms or legs. The right hand look a little big in the last photo, but it might be the angle.
And Perfect Dark, good game. What is that arcade stick? It seems kinda plastic and reminds me of the Nes.

If I may ask, if it aint too personal... are you going to keep the little member or cut it away?
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No, no, women can have some masculine traits without looking male.
Like for instance some female athletes can have such traits, but are are still plenty female in appearance.
Having some traits that are associated with guys doesn't automatically make someone look like a guy. A number of women in my family have rather broad shoulders.

You do NOT look like a 'man masquerading as a woman'. You look like a woman who is sturdily built.

...really struggling to make my thoughts into coherent sentences. I assure you it's all intended to be positive and motivating, so hopefully it doesn't just sound like rambling.
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TC i would really try not to reaffirm your current feelings about how you look, as mentioned there are women with masculine features who are considered strong and feminine, people such as Serena Williams, Pink, Rosario Dawson, Fergie etc so even if you did nothing you would fit that category.

Also why do you think shaving the bone on your face wont work? Ive seen really awesome results on those really crappy plastic surgery shows that my wife watches.
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Foppe posted...

And there we got some legs.
I must say that I like that skirt. And I see no problems with those hands, arms or legs. The right hand look a little big in the last photo, but it might be the angle.

Thanks. ^^ But you can't really see how masculine my legs look from the knees and up. Trust me, it would look terrible if I tried wearing anything shorter, or mini-skirts. And considering I'm wearing a slimming color, you can't really notice how big my arms are, even if the sleeves are more form-fitting. I'm cheating a lot, here...

And I doubt it's the angle. Like I said, someone I know told me a few months ago, "You have really big hands." One of the reasons I try to avoid wearing nailpolish. I don't want to draw attention to how masculine they are.

And Perfect Dark, good game. What is that arcade stick? It seems kinda plastic and reminds me of the Nes.

Yes! I'm surprised someone noticed that! One of the greatest games of all time! And one of my favorites. ^^ And it's actually a "Super Advantage", kinda like the "NES Advantage", except it was for the Super NES.

If I may ask, if it aint too personal... are you going to keep the little member or cut it away?

Oh, I doubt you could ask anything that would cross the line with me. I fully intend to get rid of it, but financially, I might as well be trying to get to Mars. I honestly don't think I'll ever see it happen in my lifetime. Even for something like changing my name, that costs $300, so I doubt I'll be even able to do that for awhile.

HitTheGroundWal posted...

No, no, women can have some masculine traits without looking male.
Like for instance some female athletes can have such traits, but are are still plenty female in appearance.
Having some traits that are associated with guys doesn't automatically make someone look like a guy. A number of women in my family have rather broad shoulders.

I doubt this broad... ^^; And if we're being honest, these traits do come from an inherent masculinity. But I understand that you mean. That's a good point.

You do NOT look like a 'man masquerading as a woman'. You look like a woman who is sturdily built.

...really struggling to make my thoughts into coherent sentences. I assure you it's all intended to be positive and motivating, so hopefully it doesn't just sound like rambling.

Hm... :/ Kinda wish I looked more cute and feminine... Especially since everyone says I have a shy and timid personality. Kind of at odds with the appearance you're describing... But I guess it's not too bad. And don't worry about it, I understand what you're trying to say. ^_^ Thank you.

Kind of reminds me of something that happened back in December, though. I was kind of with a guy and we were cuddling, and his head was resting near my chest, and he was like, "So big... I feel almost like a kid again." And I was like, "Is that a bad thing?" and he was like, "...Kinda..."
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I've seen worse, good luck on your journey.
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ReignFury posted...

TC i would really try not to reaffirm your current feelings about how you look, as mentioned there are women with masculine features who are considered strong and feminine, people such as Serena Williams, Pink, Rosario Dawson, Fergie etc so even if you did nothing you would fit that category.

Also why do you think shaving the bone on your face wont work? Ive seen really awesome results on those really crappy plastic surgery shows that my wife watches.

Serena Williams is actually who came to mind when reading Wal's post. Kind of had to Google the others when you mentioned them, though...

And someone once showed me a couple "before-and-after" pics of facial feminization, and in all honesty... Those that looked pretty masculine didn't really look much more feminine, and those that already looked like a girl just looked like a slightly different girl. From what I saw, it didn't seem to change that much, unfortunately... So that's why I figure there's not much point. Then again, it's not like it's gonna make me more masculine, so I guess it wouldn't hurt...
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You look great.

I'm rooting for ya.

[Thumbs up]
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Don't be so hard on yourself. I started at 30 myself, so I know it is a struggle to come to love yourself, but it is a journey you need to make. There isn't a girl out there that doesn't struggle with some aspect of their body, it is all about not getting swamped by it. There are clothes for EVERY body type.

I am a bit under the two year mark on HRT myself, and just about two months past SRS, so I've had a lot of adjustment to go through. You just have to determine what you want and reach for it.
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Yes! I'm surprised someone noticed that! One of the greatest games of all time! And one of my favorites. ^^ And it's actually a "Super Advantage", kinda like the "NES Advantage", except it was for the Super NES.

I spent a long time trying to figure out the cartridge in the pic before I looked at the other pics.
Didnt know that it even existed, have only seen the Scoremaster before.

And I think that everybody cheats, even I do that. You look good in that skirtlength, so there is really no need to go shorter if you dont want. And if you do, remember what I said about stockings/pantyhose/long socks, they make even the manliest leg look better.
Hands are harder to play around with. Some girls have bigger hands so I wouldnt think too much about them, but it exist different fingerless gloves if you really want to try something.
The lower parts of your arms look fine, so dont be ashamed of showing them.
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you do have masculine features, but there are plenty of cis-women who have them as well.
you're not ugly and you do still have a year left to see some more results

if you do still want to go through with surgery and such, I don't think it's a bad idea. I have a friend who transitioned and she did the adam's apple and jaw/cheek shaving and she's very happy with that. anecdote and all, but still

but seriously, don't be so hard on yourself.
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Another thing youve got going for you is height, at 5'5" people arent going to mistake you for male imo.

Also one avenue for money could be gofundme, write your story on buzzfeed and an army of the right people will root for you.

Best luck, looking forward to more updates.
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Malcrasternus posted...

You look great.

I'm rooting for ya.

[Thumbs up]

Oh, hey! ^_^ I recognize you from the FIM topics! Thanks.

Sylph posted...

Don't be so hard on yourself. I started at 30 myself, so I know it is a struggle to come to love yourself, but it is a journey you need to make. There isn't a girl out there that doesn't struggle with some aspect of their body, it is all about not getting swamped by it. There are clothes for EVERY body type.

Well... to be honest, it's hard for me to not think, "But at least they actually look like girls" or "It's not some aspect, it's the entire thing" or thinking how others I know don't have to worry about wearing specific clothes for their body type. I guess the journey you refer to is learning to love myself? Just liking myself would be a huge accomplishment. But one of the reasons I hate being out in public is because I know how I look, and I hate how people see me. It's one of the reasons I keep my head down and try to avoid looking at others. The other being jealousy (what a surprise) at how much better others look.

I am a bit under the two year mark on HRT myself, and just about two months past SRS, so I've had a lot of adjustment to go through. You just have to determine what you want and reach for it.

You actually got the surgery done?? Wow... That must have been super expensive. I heard that you can get the surgery done after 1 year of hormone treatment, so I guess you got that. ^^ How has it been for you? Your appearance and everything? Anyway, what I want isn't physically possible... I wasn't born that lucky. I guess I'll have to learn to settle for something else. (Although, the comments here are making me think what I have isn't that bad...)

Foppe posted...

I spent a long time trying to figure out the cartridge in the pic before I looked at the other pics.
Didnt know that it even existed, have only seen the Scoremaster before.

And I think that everybody cheats, even I do that. You look good in that skirtlength, so there is really no need to go shorter if you dont want. And if you do, remember what I said about stockings/pantyhose/long socks, they make even the manliest leg look better.
Hands are harder to play around with. Some girls have bigger hands so I wouldnt think too much about them, but it exist different fingerless gloves if you really want to try something.
The lower parts of your arms look fine, so dont be ashamed of showing them.

Kinda sucks that I have to be stuck with stockings/pantyhose, but... Maybe it could be a neat "trademark" look for me. You know, assuming it goes well. Fingerless gloves? That's a new suggestion I hadn't heard of yet. And yeah, I guess my forearms look okay. ^^ One of the reasons I don't mind elbow-length stuff.

prince_leo posted...

you do have masculine features, but there are plenty of cis-women who have them as well.
you're not ugly and you do still have a year left to see some more results

if you do still want to go through with surgery and such, I don't think it's a bad idea. I have a friend who transitioned and she did the adam's apple and jaw/cheek shaving and she's very happy with that. anecdote and all, but still

but seriously, don't be so hard on yourself.

True, I do have one more year, but don't expect me to come back looking drastically different or anything. There's surgery for the adam's apple? I honestly had no idea... I thought it was impossible to change that. Luckily, I don't have a very big adam's apple. Probably the only feminine thing I was born with. And it's a little difficult, but I'll try not to be so hard on myself.
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ReignFury posted...

Another thing youve got going for you is height, at 5'5" people arent going to mistake you for male imo.

Also one avenue for money could be gofundme, write your story on buzzfeed and an army of the right people will root for you.

Best luck, looking forward to more updates.

I doubt anyone automatically suspects I'm a girl just because I'm 5'5. ^^; Also, can you really get money for something like that? I mean, I had heard of crowdfunding stuff like kickstarter of course, but... is it really possible to get people to donate to me for stuff like facial reconstruction, or surgery? I mean... wouldn't that seem incredibly selfish? Do people really do that?

And thanks. ^^ I'll remember to keep you guys updated, then.
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Kisai posted...

Kinda sucks that I have to be stuck with stockings/pantyhose, but... Maybe it could be a neat "trademark" look for me. You know, assuming it goes well. Fingerless gloves? That's a new suggestion I hadn't heard of yet. And yeah, I guess my forearms look okay. ^^ One of the reasons I don't mind elbow-length stuff.

That sounds good.
I know a girl that used to cut herself on her forearms when she was younger, which gave her lots of scars.
She always cover it up with long gloves or some kind of "long headband", I dont know what they are called. Some of them are really cute, so I thought that it must exist some good shorter ones as well
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Honestly, you look pretty good TC, pretty androgynous imo. I've definitely seen women who look more masculine than you. I feel like you should definitely try having more self confidence.
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Kisai posted...

Well... to be honest, it's hard for me to not think, "But at least they actually look like girls" or "It's not some aspect, it's the entire thing" or thinking how others I know don't have to worry about wearing specific clothes for their body type. I guess the journey you refer to is learning to love myself? Just liking myself would be a huge accomplishment. But one of the reasons I hate being out in public is because I know how I look, and I hate how people see me. It's one of the reasons I keep my head down and try to avoid looking at others. The other being jealousy (what a surprise) at how much better others look.

Honestly, you would be surprised at how normal those feelings are for even natural girls though. How many girls starve themselves because they hate the way they see their bodies? How many stay at home crying when they could be outside? You need to learn to love who you are. I learned this first-hand, but how can you like anybody else if you can't like yourself? When you wear yourself with confidence, you will be surprised at the results, both in how you look, and how people react to you. As for the jealousy, I suspect this is tied into the not liking yourself bit, but you do also need to let this go regardless.

Kisai posted...

You actually got the surgery done?? Wow... That must have been super expensive. I heard that you can get the surgery done after 1 year of hormone treatment, so I guess you got that. ^^ How has it been for you? Your appearance and everything? Anyway, what I want isn't physically possible... I wasn't born that lucky. I guess I'll have to learn to settle for something else. (Although, the comments here are making me think what I have isn't that bad...)

Well, it was a bit expensive up-front because I got it done in Canada. It was $25000 Canadian. Going to get reimbursed by insurance, just waiting on that because I had to file it after the fact. I dunno, I worried about my appearance for maybe the first six months but my thing has always been the need to be socially reacted to as a girl, and I have that now. At least half of that is how you talk and carry yourself, and the other half is how you look. I'll give you a pic of how I look

I recommend not relying as much on how you think you look, and rely more on how others react to you as being more accurate.Just don't be confused, you don't have to be pretty to look like a girl, so I guess keep that reality in mind to temper the unrealistic goals. I hope you have a few good friends to help you out because it helps alot to escape the echo chamber of your own thoughts on how you look to get insight to your looks.


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Cute.
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Sylph posted...

Honestly, you would be surprised at how normal those feelings are for even natural girls though. How many girls starve themselves because they hate the way they see their bodies? How many stay at home crying when they could be outside?

That's... not really the same. They don't have to worry about going out in public and being seen as a guy. They don't have to worry about the wind, or the heat, fighting against every little detail just to maybe be seen as androgynous, let alone an actual girl. When I go out, I know how people see me.

You need to learn to love who you are. I learned this first-hand, but how can you like anybody else if you can't like yourself?

I never really understood this... I like other people just fine. I like tons of people. Just because I don't like myself doesn't mean I can't like others. (Now getting others to like me, now that's another story...)

When you wear yourself with confidence, you will be surprised at the results, both in how you look, and how people react to you. As for the jealousy, I suspect this is tied into the not liking yourself bit, but you do also need to let this go regardless.

I don't think I can stop feeling jealous. It's something I'll probably always feel for the rest of my life... Trying to get me to stop would probably be like trying to get me to stop liking games, or wanting to be a girl. Also, it's kinda hard to be confident with an appearance like this...

Well, it was a bit expensive up-front because I got it done in Canada. It was $25000 Canadian. Going to get reimbursed by insurance, just waiting on that because I had to file it after the fact. I dunno, I worried about my appearance for maybe the first six months but my thing has always been the need to be socially reacted to as a girl, and I have that now.

Wow. You're rich. And that's what I want too obviously, but of course you have that now. You actually look like a girl. ^^ No wonder why you don't worry about your appearance.

At least half of that is how you talk and carry yourself, and the other half is how you look. I'll give you a pic of how I look

Well... For one, I don't have a feminine voice. So surgery for that will probably be needed. And two, feminine body language isn't something that comes naturally to me like you or others... Which is another thing that gives me some doubt. Even if it's something that's sort of a "learned" trait, I have no idea how I could even begin doing that, especially with this body. Also, I normally don't like seeing pictures of others like this, but you actually do look pretty, as mentioned before.

I recommend not relying as much on how you think you look, and rely more on how others react to you as being more accurate.Just don't be confused, you don't have to be pretty to look like a girl, so I guess keep that reality in mind to temper the unrealistic goals. I hope you have a few good friends to help you out because it helps alot to escape the echo chamber of your own thoughts on how you look to get insight to your looks.

Well, it's kind of hard to trust that. I have a general rule of thumb regarding female pronouns, if that's what you're referring to by "how others react to you": old people and drunk people don't count. If a younger person were ever to say that though, that would probably mean a little more. And... that's true, I guess you don't have to be pretty. ;_; I suppose if I have to accept reality here... I don't really have anyone to talk to, though. But like I said before, I'll admit that some of the encouragement here has been kind of a positive influence. I might feel a liiittle better. Just a little. Maybe 1% better. ^_^; But it's still been helpful.
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Foppe posted...

That sounds good.
I know a girl that used to cut herself on her forearms when she was younger, which gave her lots of scars.
She always cover it up with long gloves or some kind of "long headband", I dont know what they are called. Some of them are really cute, so I thought that it must exist some good shorter ones as well

Sorry to hear about that... And do you mean like those little bands you can tie around your arm? Or am I thinking of stuff you'd only see in a video game?

Anime_Killer17 posted...

Honestly, you look pretty good TC, pretty androgynous imo. I've definitely seen women who look more masculine than you. I feel like you should definitely try having more self confidence.

Well... as mentioned, it's a little difficult to have self-confidence when the best I can do with the appearance I was born with is androgynous... But if you think I don't look that bad, then I guess I'll try. ^^
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Well, I am certainly not rich, but I am well off. Either way, that was about two years worth of saving for me, so it isn't like it was nothing.

I'm not sure about looking completely like a girl, that isn't totally realistic, but I do accept that I do pretty well.

As for voice, keep in mind that the surgeries for it won't give you a range you already can't reach, it just keeps you from reaching the low notes anymore. You could already reach those higher ranges with practice and effort. The surgeries are also kinda risky and sometimes come loose anyways, so be careful with that.

But yeah, I do recommend you try to steer yourself to a generally more positive outlook. I don't think you are doing so badly, just keep working on it. I mean I am too, so it is always a work in progress.
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Eh, throw some makeup on and you're all set. I was thinking you'd be jacked, definitely not too masculine.
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TheGoldenEel posted...

don't see why you'd think you'd need any sort of facial surgery tbh

you look just fine

Also ur cute
I honestly can't see any masculine traits in ur pics either
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you too huh?
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Eh, throw some makeup on and you're all set. I was thinking you'd be jacked, definitely not too masculine.

I was wearing makeup. ¬_¬ That's the only reason my face looked as smooth as it did. There's a limit to how much I can get away with, though. Too much, and I end up looking more masculine again. And I don't want to end up looking like a clown, or drag queen. Maybe the most visible I'd want my makeup to be is eyeliner, assuming it works for me...

Sylph posted...

Well, I am certainly not rich, but I am well off. Either way, that was about two years worth of saving for me, so it isn't like it was nothing

Being able to afford $25,000 is just "well off"? ;_; And you were already saving up a year before you even started on hormones? I'm kinda impressed...

I'm not sure about looking completely like a girl, that isn't totally realistic, but I do accept that I do pretty well.

Well, if people in public think you are a girl, then you must look like one. You don't think saying you look like a girl is realistic? Well if your appearance doesn't look like a girl, then I definitely have no chance... ^^ But obviously you do, so I don't know why you would ever suspect otherwise.

As for voice, keep in mind that the surgeries for it won't give you a range you already can't reach, it just keeps you from reaching the low notes anymore. You could already reach those higher ranges with practice and effort. The surgeries are also kinda risky and sometimes come loose anyways, so be careful with that.

...Are you sure? I mean, I saw a YouTube video once someone did before they got the voice surgery and after, and their voice sounded much more feminine. And yeah, I've heard there are some risks, like losing your voice entirely, but I rarely speak anyway because of my voice... But if you're right, and somehow what I saw was incorrect, then there's not much hope of sounding like a girl. My voice can't change like that.

But yeah, I do recommend you try to steer yourself to a generally more positive outlook. I don't think you are doing so badly, just keep working on it. I mean I am too, so it is always a work in progress.

Well, you've got quite a lot more to be positive about than I do. ^^ So you shouldn't have anything to worry about. And yeah, I guess maybe I'll try being more positive. Everyone in this topic has been saying I should, anyway. Maybe they have a point...
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

you too huh?

You've been on hormones for a year now, too?? Really?

Kanaya413 posted...

TheGoldenEel posted...

don't see why you'd think you'd need any sort of facial surgery tbh

you look just fine

Also ur cute
I honestly can't see any masculine traits in ur pics either

Aww... I think you guys are being too nice. ^_^ But thank you.
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Kisai posted...

You've been on hormones for a year now, too?? Really?

nonono i just meant that you are also a trans person.


like i have no problem with that but man, there's an oddly large amount of trans folk on ce. it's weird.
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DocileOrangeCup posted...

Kisai posted...

You've been on hormones for a year now, too?? Really?

nonono i just meant that you are also a trans person.


like i have no problem with that but man, there's an oddly large amount of trans folk on ce. it's weird.

You're one, too? ^^ That's neat. You haven't started hormones, though? And I dunno how many there are, but I guess there are quite a bit.
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NO

I am not a trans person

I am just saying it's weird that there are so many of you guys here
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I usually stay out of these topics, but fwiw your face has a feminine, estrogenic look to it. Give it time, puberty takes a lot longer than two short years...

Plus if you're 5'5 you're going pretty well and can't have that big of a frame.
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Kisai posted...

And do you mean like those little bands you can tie around your arm? Or am I thinking of stuff you'd only see in a video game?

No, its like a tube of fabric that you insert your arm into. Like a sock for the arm without the foot... well hand part.

Kisai posted...

I was wearing makeup

Im surprised to see this, would have never guessed that. But she got a point, there are multiple before and after pictures of pornstars using makeup and they look like two different persons. Ive seen makeup stores having individual how to guides on evenings because we all got different lines in our faces and showing/reducing exactly what lines are pretty individual. Im not saying that you are doing it wrong, just that you might find something that makes you happier.

DocileOrangeCup posted...

like i have no problem with that but man, there's an oddly large amount of trans folk on ce. it's weird

Transpersons have been more acceptable lately, which means more of them have left the closet and being more open about it.
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Make your butt muscles crazy big, girdle your waist and get boob implants.

I dunno.
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Have you tried looking up vocal feminization guides and trying to alter your voice? You might be surprised what you can actually do if you work at it as far as range.
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EdgeMaster posted...

I usually stay out of these topics, but fwiw your face has a feminine, estrogenic look to it. Give it time, puberty takes a lot longer than two short years...

Plus if you're 5'5 you're going pretty well and can't have that big of a frame.

From what I've heard, hormone treatment's effects max out at 2 years. Apparently, there are sometimes exceptions, but I guess they're kinda rare. Also, you make it sound like 5'5 is small, but I feel bigger than pretty much every other woman I see in public...

Foppe posted...

No, its like a tube of fabric that you insert your arm into. Like a sock for the arm without the foot... well hand part.

I don't think I've seen that particular article of clothing before... Assuming it doesn't make my arm look bigger, I could try that out.

Im surprised to see this, would have never guessed that. But she got a point, there are multiple before and after pictures of pornstars using makeup and they look like two different persons. Ive seen makeup stores having individual how to guides on evenings because we all got different lines in our faces and showing/reducing exactly what lines are pretty individual. Im not saying that you are doing it wrong, just that you might find something that makes you happier.

Well, like I said earlier, if I wasn't wearing makeup, you would have definitely been able to see some stubble. Unfortunately, I'm one of those guys that, after they shave, you can still see it. ;_; Then again, the only thing I was wearing was foundation, but regardless of how much I put on, I'd want my appearance to look natural anyway.

BettyWhite posted...

Make your butt muscles crazy big, girdle your waist and get boob implants.

I dunno.

I can't believe I just got advice from the second best Golden Girl. Thanks, Betty White!

Sylph posted...

Have you tried looking up vocal feminization guides and trying to alter your voice? You might be surprised what you can actually do if you work at it as far as range.

I dunno... I know pretty well what ranges my voice is capable of, I think. I almost don't go a single day without humming along to the music I'm playing. I've used my voice a ton, so I'm pretty sure I know my voice's range better than anyone. (Then again, maybe I don't work it out as much as other people would...) If I keep my voice soft and quiet, I think I can kinda make it sound feminine (if only because it's so hard to hear), but any louder and it gets pretty obvious it's a guy's. Admittedly, I have once or twice been "mistaken" for a female on the phone, but I think those were lucky flukes...
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Amanda Lepore might be able to help you. :o She looks amazing post-transition and she has a hit music career too. No one can determine her age because no one is sure what parts of her are real or not but that is part of the mystique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu5Q6zTICXk
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how are those big broad shouders?

seems liek insecurity to me, you look fine.
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orcus_snake posted...

how are those big broad shouders?

seems liek insecurity to me, you look fine.

I'm beginning to think the pictures I chose are beyond "misleading" and closer to "dishonest". ^^; Trust me, no girl would ever be born shoulders this broad. Even someone I knew commented that they were the only thing about me that wasn't feminine. And when I showed him the size of my upper arms, he said it was "bulbous". But if these things don't seem that noticeable, maybe it shows that I'm pretty good at hiding it. (You know... with certain clothes...)

AugustAdoulin posted...

Amanda Lepore might be able to help you. :o She looks amazing post-transition and she has a hit music career too.

I looked up images of her on Google, and I do not have anywhere near that kind of body type. They have really tiny, slender shoulders and slender arms, and a pretty slim body. It seems like they were born with a much more feminine appearance than I was. ;_;

No one can determine her age because no one is sure what parts of her are real or not but that is part of the mystique.

...Have they had that much, um... plastic surgery done?
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