Poll of the Day > Spiderman Vs Batman.

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Scientist vs Detective.
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Batman already beat him.
And the Detectivecis pretty scientic himself.
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Spiderman although Batman has the superior rogues gallery.
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Spider-Sense?
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Batman. Spiderman seems to be little more than a constant pain-train ever since OMD and I don't really care to see him suffer anymore. So Batman almost by default. Plus didn't they recently replace Spiderman? If so then how could a non-Peter Spiderman stand up to flipping BATMAN?!
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Unbridled9 posted...

Batman. Spiderman seems to be little more than a constant pain-train ever since OMD and I don't really care to see him suffer anymore. So Batman almost by default. Plus didn't they recently replace Spiderman? If so then how could a non-Peter Spiderman stand up to flipping BATMAN?!

We got multiple Spidermen.
I guess the biggest ones are Peter, some black guy in an alternative universe and Spiderman 2099 from the future.
Peter got possessed by a dying Doc Octopus that took over his body and decided to be a better Spiderman, which gave us a more technological Spiderman.
In the end, he realized that Peter was better and took suicide, giving back the body to Peter.
So the big question is which Spiderman and when in time we take him.
I mean, he was more powerful with the symbiote. Or when he had that armor from Tony Stark. Or when he got those powers from that spidergodess which got retconned away. When he could produce his own web or used cartridges?
Or some other alternative version of him?
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Spiderman
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Spiderman for life.
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Batman wins because he has the black costume while Spiderman wears red and blue. I speak for all Batman fans when I say this.

Spider-Man, because he has a sense of humor.
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In pretty much every way spiderman would win.

Batman has more toys buy spiderman doesn't need them.
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Depends. Is there prep time? If yes, Batman. If no, Spider-Man.
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jedirood posted...

Depends. Is there prep time? If yes, Batman. If no, Spider-Man.

Ummmm, no. Why do people just assume that if prep time is ever allowed that only Batman gets it? In this scenario, there is a person who could prep just as good as Batman could, AND he has the added bonus of being able to just outright beat Batman if they just bumped into each other.
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Batman, with his eyes close, and one hand tied behind his back.

Because...he's batman.
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the one that has actual super powers + iron mans tech
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Look, superman has a major weakness Batman could exploit, but even that is totally stupid (why dosn't he just wear a lead suit, or even line his outfit with led...not like he can't handle the weight). Add in super vision + heat vision allowing you to destroy batman from a distance (and x-ray vision to find him), and yeah, no contest.

But whatever, superman has a weakness so if batman is prepared and superman isn't, then yeah, you could have batman win.

But spiderman?

There is no scenerio where spidey is caught un-aware due to his spidey senses, which ditches on of Bats biggest advantages.

Spidey can move around faster then him (even with his vehicles), has way better reflexes, is WAY stronger (Even if bats uses a suit), can take way more damage and honestly is smarter then Batman as well (he just doesn't rely on tech gadgets much, but he could in a pinch).

Batman may be a better detective, and the only way I see him having any chance against Spidey is by figuring out his secret identity and using Aunt may etc against him, basically creating a deadly spider trap with them, and then actually being smart enough to use it to kill spidey.

In any direct confrontation, Bats is gonna be spider food pretty much.

Also spidey has a sense of humor so he wins automatically.
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Unless things are hugely tilted in Batman's favour for some reason Spidey should roll over him.
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jedirood posted...

Depends. Is there prep time? If yes, Batman. If no, Spider-Man.

What's a prep?
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batman

his weapons and gadgets give him the edge

spiderman's super human abilities aren't insane like hulk or flash.

this topic is going to turn into a which version spiderman vs which version of batman
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You cant really put that much weight on his Spidersense, because Spiderman has been defeated and beaten in the past.
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The only person who wins in any fight between two animal-themed superheroes: Kraven.
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Batman, mostly because he's far more experienced and is a brilliant tactician.

Foppe posted...

Unbridled9 posted...

Batman. Spiderman seems to be little more than a constant pain-train ever since OMD and I don't really care to see him suffer anymore. So Batman almost by default. Plus didn't they recently replace Spiderman? If so then how could a non-Peter Spiderman stand up to flipping BATMAN?!

We got multiple Spidermen.
I guess the biggest ones are Peter, some black guy in an alternative universe and Spiderman 2099 from the future.
Peter got possessed by a dying Doc Octopus that took over his body and decided to be a better Spiderman, which gave us a more technological Spiderman.
In the end, he realized that Peter was better and took suicide, giving back the body to Peter.
So the big question is which Spiderman and when in time we take him.
I mean, he was more powerful with the symbiote. Or when he had that armor from Tony Stark. Or when he got those powers from that spidergodess which got retconned away. When he could produce his own web or used cartridges?
Or some other alternative version of him?

If you're doing that, you'd have to allow one of the other versions of Batman, including the supernaturally empowered Damian Wayne, the mechsuit-wearing psycho Jean Paul Valley, the gun-toting Jason Todd, and Batman Beyond Terry McGinnis... and that's not counting the Elseworlds shit like Batmage and one-offs like Green Lantern Batman.

wolfy42 posted...

Look, superman has a major weakness Batman could exploit, but even that is totally stupid (why dosn't he just wear a lead suit, or even line his outfit with led...not like he can't handle the weight). Add in super vision + heat vision allowing you to destroy batman from a distance (and x-ray vision to find him), and yeah, no contest.

But whatever, superman has a weakness so if batman is prepared and superman isn't, then yeah, you could have batman win.

But spiderman?

There is no scenerio where spidey is caught un-aware due to his spidey senses, which ditches on of Bats biggest advantages.

Spidey can move around faster then him (even with his vehicles), has way better reflexes, is WAY stronger (Even if bats uses a suit), can take way more damage and honestly is smarter then Batman as well (he just doesn't rely on tech gadgets much, but he could in a pinch).

Batman may be a better detective, and the only way I see him having any chance against Spidey is by figuring out his secret identity and using Aunt may etc against him, basically creating a deadly spider trap with them, and then actually being smart enough to use it to kill spidey.

In any direct confrontation, Bats is gonna be spider food pretty much.

Also spidey has a sense of humor so he wins automatically.

Actually, Spider-Man *does* have weaknesses because his spidey sense can be disabled (and it just doesn't kick in at all in some cases), his webbing can be disabled, etc. Plus Batman has access to far better tech (including mech suits) and has a better chance at catching him unaware.

Batman meticulously researches his opponents and would easily exploit Spiderman's weaknesses.
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Spiderman

Cause Batman is lame.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Spiderman

Cause Batman is lame.

Fighting words.
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Foppe posted...

You cant really put that much weight on his Spidersense, because Spiderman has been defeated and beaten in the past.

and we all know Batman has never been defeated and beaten ever
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Zeus posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

Spiderman

Cause Batman is lame.

Fighting words.

Don't get mad at me just because you like a terrible character.
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Depends on if the writer has been jacking off to Batman for at least a couple of decades like everyone that DC lets touch a title with him in it.

If they get a writer who hasn't worn his dick raw by thinking of Batman, Spidey will win.

JOExHIGASHI posted...

spiderman's super human abilities aren't insane like hulk or flash.

His strength alone is enough for him to literally kill Batman with a single punch.

Foppe posted...

I mean, he was more powerful with the symbiote.

Only in adaptations (cartoons, etc). Not in the actual comics.

Lobomoon posted...

jedirood posted...

Depends. Is there prep time? If yes, Batman. If no, Spider-Man.

What's a prep?

It's Batman's Mary Sue superpower.

KthulhuX posted...

Foppe posted...

I mean, he was more powerful with the symbiote.

Only in adaptations (cartoons, etc). Not in the actual comics.

Pretty sure the symbiote learned to produce its own web while Peter still used cartridges, and that it got a bigger healing factor than Peter normally got.
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KthulhuX posted...

Lobomoon posted...

jedirood posted...

Depends. Is there prep time? If yes, Batman. If no, Spider-Man.

What's a prep?

It's Batman's Mary Sue superpower.

Pretty sure that his superpower is that he has already thought of all possible encounters, no matter how impossible they may look, and already prepared for them.
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VeeVees posted...

Foppe posted...

You cant really put that much weight on his Spidersense, because Spiderman has been defeated and beaten in the past.

and we all know Batman has never been defeated and beaten ever

I guess Bane doesn't exist, then. Or Darkseid. Or the entirety of Earth-2(in which the age of heroes literally ends with death).
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jedirood posted...

VeeVees posted...

Foppe posted...

You cant really put that much weight on his Spidersense, because Spiderman has been defeated and beaten in the past.

and we all know Batman has never been defeated and beaten ever

I guess Bane doesn't exist, then. Or Darkseid. Or the entirety of Earth-2(in which the age of heroes literally ends with death).

Pretty sure it was sarcasm.
And didnt he die in Pre-52 Earth 2 as well?
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Foppe posted...

Pretty sure that his superpower is that he has already thought of all possible encounters, no matter how impossible they may look, and already prepared for them.

Pretty sure that's not a super power, it's just stupid.

"What's you're super power?"

"I plan things."
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When exactly does he do all this planning?

He has to train continually.
He has to pretend to be a rich playboy.
He goes out and fights the common criminals every night.
He has to sleep fairly regularly, so he doesn't die.

And yet he still somehow has time to come up with contingency plans for things that are ridiculously unlikely to ever happen....which kind of implies he spends even more time coming up with plans for things that ARE likely to happen.

Maybe his superpower is that his days last 24 years instead of 24 hours.

He meditates into ~1 hour microsleeps that are as good as a full night of sleep.
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KthulhuX posted...

When exactly does he do all this planning?

He has to train continually.
He has to pretend to be a rich playboy.
He goes out and fights the common criminals every night.
He has to sleep fairly regularly, so he doesn't die.

And yet he still somehow has time to come up with contingency plans for things that are ridiculously unlikely to ever happen....which kind of implies he spends even more time coming up with plans for things that ARE likely to happen.

Maybe his superpower is that his days last 24 years instead of 24 hours.

He doesn't have a day job. He pays people to work for him. He could just go out once a week or a month to keep up the image. He could fight criminals for a like a few hours a night. So most of the day is free.
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Spiderman is stronger, faster, and actually has superpowers. Spidy sense could rek all of batmans plans.
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I'm not a big batman fan, in fact he's pretty much a super hero lex luthor as far as I'm concerned, but he could totally beat spiderman by laying a trap for him.

As always it would come down to him being able to plan for the encounter in advance and work around spidermans weaknesses.

So ....I'm Batman (had to say it).

What I would do is monitor spiderman a bit to get a "sense" for how his spidey senses work. What happens if there are multiple threats from different directions? How far in advance can the spider sense warn him etc?

Once you know the limits there are ways to get around it. For instance, rig a building to explode, lure spidey into the middle of the building and then blow up the building once he is too far inside to get out quickly if his spider senses go off. Might not be enough to kill him, but will bury him, so have trucks of concreet ready to come and cover the whole mess (including spidey). He needs to breathe, so he will die eventually.

All his strength won't help him from drowning either, so you could use that to kill him if you can lure him over water and knock him out or tie him up etc.

Or just plan things out so he actually offs himself (have his aunt may captured and being tortured and force him to kill himself or you won't stop).

Tons of ways he could win, but he needs to plan for it and control the situation, and Spidey can't know he is the enemy.

In any one on one fight, spiderman wins.

As far as which character is better, for me spiderman wins easily.

Batman's super power is pretty much having the writers figure out how he can win in any situation with his limited abilities, or writers imagination I guess.

Spidey actually has super powers.
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Thunder_54 posted...

Spiderman is stronger, faster, and actually has superpowers. Spidy sense could rek all of batmans plans.

Batman has defeated stronger, faster and more powerful superpowered persons.
And the Spidersense still allows Spidey to get captured and beaten up.
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Spider-man wins 9.9 out of 10 times in any realistic setting. The Writers with the last .1 . In fact, Spider-man is basically the anti-batman.

wolfy42 posted...

What I would do is monitor spiderman a bit to get a "sense" for how his spidey senses work. What happens if there are multiple threats from different directions? How far in advance can the spider sense warn him etc?

Once you know the limits there are ways to get around it. For instance, rig a building to explode, lure spidey into the middle of the building and then blow up the building once he is too far inside to get out quickly if his spider senses go off. Might not be enough to kill him, but will bury him, so have trucks of concreet ready to come and cover the whole mess (including spidey). He needs to breathe, so he will die eventually.

2 things wrong here. 1)The only way possible for Batman to learn of the Spider-Sense is to face Spidey, and pretty much everyone agrees that Bats doesn't wanna do that. 2)Blow up a building & then cover it all over in concrete? Not only would that not work(find me the building that isn't Wayne Enterprises that Batman could escape faster than a faster than Batman Spider-Man), but that could kill innocents & that's something that Batman only does in the Nolan films.

Or just plan things out so he actually offs himself (have his aunt may captured and being tortured and force him to kill himself or you won't stop).

Tell Bruce to go talk to Kingpin about what happens when you bring Aunt May into things.

Tons of ways he could win, but he needs to plan for it and control the situation, and Spidey can't know he is the enemy.

So again one sided prep. Which wouldn't happen.

Batman's super power is pretty much having the writers figure out how he can win in any situation with his limited abilities, or writers imagination I guess.

Well, that and...
-Being stronger than a Olympic power lifter, yet having the body of an Olympic runner
-Mastering 127 martial arts in 8 years, when it takes real people who've mastered a few different styles like 20 or more years
-Mastering detective work, sleuthing, tracking, and forensic science in the same 8 years he learned martial arts
-Learning to build and drive/fly/pilot cars, jet planes, and boats/submersives....in the same 8 years that he learned detective work, sleuthing, tracking, forensic science, and 127 martial arts
-Learning ventriloquism, method acting, make up, and being a master of disguise....in the same 8 years that he learned detective work, sleuthing, tracking, forensic science, building & drive/fly/pilot cars, jet planes & boats/submersives, and 127 martial arts
-Learning lockpicking and escapism....in the same 8 years that he learned ventriloquism, method acting, make up, being a master of disguise, detective work, sleuthing, tracking, forensic science, building & drive/fly/pilot cars, jet planes & boats/submersives, and 127 martial arts
-Etc.
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Gundammike posted...

-Being stronger than a Olympic power lifter, yet having the body of an Olympic runner
-Mastering 127 martial arts in 8 years, when it takes real people who've mastered a few different styles like 20 or more years
-Mastering detective work, sleuthing, tracking, and forensic science in the same 8 years he learned martial arts
-Learning to build and drive/fly/pilot cars, jet planes, and boats/submersives....in the same 8 years that he learned detective work, sleuthing, tracking, forensic science, and 127 martial arts
-Learning ventriloquism, method acting, make up, and being a master of disguise....in the same 8 years that he learned detective work, sleuthing, tracking, forensic science, building & drive/fly/pilot cars, jet planes & boats/submersives, and 127 martial arts
-Learning lockpicking and escapism....in the same 8 years that he learned ventriloquism, method acting, make up, being a master of disguise, detective work, sleuthing, tracking, forensic science, building & drive/fly/pilot cars, jet planes & boats/submersives, and 127 martial arts
-Etc.

In many ways, Batman comes off as less realistic than many powered characters.

The building could be deserted and even scheduled to be demolished, just spidey wouldn't know that.

And a simple camera would let Bats set it off from a safe distance.

Many cameras around the town, or people hired to film spidey when he fights villians would give bats the footage he needs to determine how his spidey senses work. Actually just footage that was already available would probably be enough.

And I started it all off saying that he would only win if he had the ability to prep and spidey had no clue he was coming for him.

As far as Aunt May and what happens if you involve her, I don't consider Batman a superhero, but he is smart and knows how to set a trap far better then the kingpin. He could totally pull it off.

Batman is the ultimate HUMAN hero, able to learn things super fast and has a ton of skills, but he has no real powers at all. His strength is near optimal for a human, his speed/reflexes as well, but that is nothing compared to spiderman.

Martial arts won't mean anything against spiderman either, and honestly learning multiple forms of martial arts (i actually took 4 at the same time for a few years (T-kangs Kung-fu-Karate-taekwando-juno). It's impressive that he mastered multiple forms, but again, not a super power.

Batman could win if he decided to be a villian or just thought spiderman was evil or something and needed to be taken out. The whole building/concreet setup is just one way to do so (many others exist). Most importantly spidey has been knocked out and beaten many times before and it has been filmed so bats can see exactly what it takes to take him out, and plan for that in advance.

Get him to rescue someone in a pool and electrify the whole thing for instance, or incinerate him with a rocket, or seal him in a room and remove all the o2, etc etc.

There are many ways to take him out, and a smart batman would have failsafes if the first 1 or two ways didn't work.
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Death Battle already proved Spider-Man wins under a specific set of circumstances. If those circumstances aren't met, Batman wins. There are many variables to consider(is it to the death, does either hero get time to prepare, what version of both heroes, is help allowed, will Spider sense affect the outcome, is it New York city or Gotham city, etc.), so a solid answer isn't possible due to these factors.

Bruce vs. Parker? Spider-Man wins

Terry vs. Miguel O'Hara? Batman.

It depends, in the end
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Or just plan things out so he actually offs himself (have his aunt may captured and being tortured and force him to kill himself or you won't stop).

So the best way for Batman to win it to become a villain?

KthulhuX posted...

Or just plan things out so he actually offs himself (have his aunt may captured and being tortured and force him to kill himself or you won't stop).

So the best way for Batman to win it to become a villain?

is he that different from one already?
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If Batman knows that Spiderman would survive, and that nobody else was around, then I can see him bringing down a house on Spidey in order to defeat him.
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