Current Events > This 19 y/o Utah Kid was DENIED an ORGAN Transplant because he smoked WEED!!

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Full Throttle
04/13/17 10:07:03 PM
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Do you think it's fair to deny organ transplants to people who smoked weed?


19 y/o Riley Hancey from Utah, a Pneumonia patient was DENIED a life-saving transplant because he smoked MARIJUANA!!

He became sick over Thanksgiving and was put on life support and was admitted to the hospital...the doctors said he needed a double lung transplant to survive but denied him because they found THC in his system!!

His father, Mark was in the room when a doctor told his son he was going to DIE as Riley broke down in tears after he said "You will die. You better get your affairs in order. She was willing ot let him die over testing positive for marijuana. This is what shocked me"

Mark said Riley doesn't usually do drugs but had some weed after thanksgiving dinner when he met up with an old friend. He said "it's not like he's a smoker for 30 years and had deteriorating lungs because of that

Marijuana stays in the body for a month after use but exists father for some infrequent users.

Officials at the University of Utah Hospital refused to talk about this case but says they follow international guidelines for transplants and makes decisions on case by case. They said they don't give organs with patients with active alcohol, tobacco or illicit drug use or dependencies

Utah is one of the holdout states that hasn't legalized marijuana for either recreational or medical use

They family is trying to transfer him to 6 other hospitals before the University of Pennsylvania stepped up and agreed to perform the surgery as a pair of lungs became available on March 31st

Mark said his son was healthy after the 8 hour surgery and it made all the difference as he's still fighting and doing well. He will spend the next year in Pennylsvania as the parents will take turns traveling back and forth to be by his side.

A YouCaring page has been set up since insurance won't cover the costs and they have raised more than 23,000.

Do you think it's fair to deny organ transplants to weed users?

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StarReaper13
04/13/17 10:09:23 PM
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They literally would have let him die over smoking weed. What the hell.
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Manocheese
04/13/17 10:11:09 PM
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Fair, next. Why should we waste a precious organ on a drug addict when there are plenty of deserving people in need?
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cjsdowg
04/13/17 10:12:08 PM
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WOW they are horrible people.
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I4NRulez
04/13/17 10:13:49 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Officials at the University of Utah Hospital refused to talk about this case but says they follow international guidelines for transplants and makes decisions on case by case. They said they don't give organs with patients with active alcohol, tobacco or illicit drug use or dependencies


it sucks but its fair. Thats the rule for any transplant
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TheRealItachi
04/13/17 10:14:00 PM
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It being weed is completely irrelevant - the fact that he smokes ANYTHING, period, means he does not deserve the lung transplant. Transplants are not easy to get, which is why they have such extremely stringent rules for them. The fact that he would smoke while having such a problem with a lungs, shows that he doesn't take care of them, and somebody else deserves the transplant instead.
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EdgeMaster
04/13/17 10:15:05 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Fair, next. Why should we waste a precious organ on a drug addict when there are plenty of deserving people in need?


Here we go....
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TommyG663513
04/13/17 10:15:29 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Fair, next. Why should we waste a precious organ on a drug addict when there are plenty of deserving people in need?


Found the troll post
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voldothegr8
04/13/17 10:16:35 PM
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They family is trying to transfer him to 6 other hospitals before the University of Pennsylvania stepped up and agreed to perform the surgery as a pair of lungs became available on March 31st


Thanks fucking god, that other doctor should have her medical license revoked.
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tripZ504
04/13/17 10:18:39 PM
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TheRealItachi posted...
It being weed is completely irrelevant - the fact that he smokes ANYTHING, period, means he does not deserve the lung transplant. Transplants are not easy to get, which is why they have such extremely stringent rules for them. The fact that he would smoke while having such a problem with a lungs, shows that he doesn't take care of them, and somebody else deserves the transplant instead.



As a smoker i agree with that. Way it should be.
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Returning_CEmen
04/13/17 10:19:44 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Fair, next. Why should we waste a precious organ on a drug addict when there are plenty of deserving people in need?

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ShinigamiSoul
04/13/17 10:19:47 PM
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fair, necks
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ZCheveyo
04/13/17 10:21:47 PM
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Okay....I have a lung disease and will be looking at having to get this exact transplant very soon.

Lungs are the second hardest organs to harvest, especially lately since so many different things can damage them....and they need to go to people who are completely deserving of them. The list for lungs is not small, and there is a reason why they are so strict on the rules.
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TheBiggerWiggle
04/13/17 10:23:26 PM
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Morally I disagree with this, however the rules are the rules. Organs are limited and should be limited to those that follow every rule.
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Seaman_Prime
04/13/17 10:24:13 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
They family is trying to transfer him to 6 other hospitals before the University of Pennsylvania stepped up and agreed to perform the surgery as a pair of lungs became available on March 31st


Thanks fucking god, that other doctor should have her medical license revoked.

would you still want to revoke her license if she was instead gonna transplant new lungs to someone close to you that did not have a history of smoking?
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Omnislasher
04/13/17 10:24:17 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
Okay....I have a lung disease and will be looking at having to get this exact transplant very soon.

Lungs are the second hardest organs to harvest, especially lately since so many different things can damage them....and they need to go to people who are completely deserving of them. The list for lungs is not small, and there is a reason why they are so strict on the rules.


and let me guess you totally completely deserve them, right? you're a huge fucking deal. unlike this other kid cuz he smoked a couple blunts in his day?

fucking high horse you're on
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Returning_CEmen
04/13/17 10:27:53 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
ZCheveyo posted...
Okay....I have a lung disease and will be looking at having to get this exact transplant very soon.

Lungs are the second hardest organs to harvest, especially lately since so many different things can damage them....and they need to go to people who are completely deserving of them. The list for lungs is not small, and there is a reason why they are so strict on the rules.


and let me guess you totally completely deserve them, right? you're a huge fucking deal. unlike this other kid cuz he smoked a couple blunts in his day?

fucking high horse you're on

He never implied that.
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Medz8606
04/13/17 10:28:36 PM
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Psycho_Poodle
04/13/17 10:28:40 PM
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smoking weed is evil and sinful
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K181
04/13/17 10:33:16 PM
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Look, I've seen this stuff firsthand at my hospital. Organs are in much higher demand than supply, so the plan is always to prioritize patients that provide the best option for longest life after transplant. Younger patients supersede older patients and those that don't smoke or drink or do drugs for various organs of need are higher than those that do.

With lungs, smoking of any kind is a major no-no due to the increased sensitivity and risk of infection or outright rejection that you're at post-transplant. The last thing any hospital wants is to waste a pair of lungs on someone that smokes anything regularly and keeps doing it after a transplant and potentially risks the organ.

That being said, that's usually something that's done for people while they are on a wait list, rather than before, and it sounds like the doctor went way overboard with the way they went after the kid, but I do get it.
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StarReaper13
04/13/17 10:35:41 PM
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I find it funny that a majority of posters itt are seemingly ignoring the fact that another hospital is doing the transplant in spite of this knowledge.
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awesome999
04/13/17 10:36:50 PM
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I know reports of alcoholics getting liver transplants over a non drinker just because he was rich

Fuck the system

I'll try to find it (the report)
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Sayoria
04/13/17 11:13:57 PM
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Denying someone a lung transplant because that person is irresponsible with lungs?
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Manocheese
04/13/17 11:43:34 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
I find it funny that a majority of posters itt are seemingly ignoring the fact that another hospital is doing the transplant in spite of this knowledge.

Surely you don't expect us to actually read the article?
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The Eternal Flame
04/13/17 11:46:54 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Fair, next. Why should we waste a precious organ on a drug addict when there are plenty of deserving people in need?

Aren't you literally a brony? How can you think of anyone else as degenerates?
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04/13/17 11:50:13 PM
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Psycho_Poodle posted...
smoking weed is evil and sinful

Lmao
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Manocheese
04/13/17 11:50:53 PM
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The Eternal Flame posted...
Manocheese posted...
Fair, next. Why should we waste a precious organ on a drug addict when there are plenty of deserving people in need?

Aren't you literally a brony? How can you think of anyone else as degenerates?

Last I checked, liking or disliking a TV show isn't one of the criteria for receiving an organ transplant.
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Full Throttle
04/14/17 11:50:00 AM
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looks like it's tied
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Darklit_Minuet
04/14/17 11:56:20 AM
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The doctors who decided this should be stripped of their right to practice. They ignored their hippocratic oath. Do no harm my ass, they were willing to let a kid die because he smoked a harmless plant
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gamepimp12
04/14/17 11:56:51 AM
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Looks like one of those things where laws and rules haven't really kept up with public opinion
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LightHawKnight
04/14/17 11:59:11 AM
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Since he is under 25, his brain is still developing, in case weed can cause damage to the brain at that point can't it?
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pkmnlord
04/14/17 12:00:37 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Mark said Riley doesn't usually do drugs but had some weed after thanksgiving dinner when he met up with an old friend.

One would think he'd want to toke up before thanksgiving dinner, not after. Those munchies would make that dinner twice as delicious as it'd be completely sober and just regular hungry.
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JamaalCharles39
04/14/17 12:36:37 PM
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Isnt it bad to operate on someone while theres THC in their system? Ive heard that but I dont know if its true.
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Roxborough4Ever
04/14/17 12:37:17 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
They literally would have let him die over smoking weed. What the hell.


but the healthcare is free
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itachi15243
04/14/17 12:51:38 PM
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JamaalCharles39 posted...
Isnt it bad to operate on someone while theres THC in their system? Ive heard that but I dont know if its true.


No it isn't. It's not gonna cause harm or risk unless you're still high or something.

At least for most surgeries. Not sure on transplants.
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Sami1000
04/14/17 1:00:01 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
ZCheveyo posted...
Okay....I have a lung disease and will be looking at having to get this exact transplant very soon.

Lungs are the second hardest organs to harvest, especially lately since so many different things can damage them....and they need to go to people who are completely deserving of them. The list for lungs is not small, and there is a reason why they are so strict on the rules.


and let me guess you totally completely deserve them, right? you're a huge fucking deal. unlike this other kid cuz he smoked a couple blunts in his day?

fucking high horse you're on


He didn't say anything like that calm the fuck down. Also, you are attacking person with lung disease, who will also need a transplant at some point. You think THAT'S COOL?
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WhiteAngel50
04/14/17 1:04:36 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
They literally would have let him die over smoking weed. What the hell.



Well maybe you shouldn't be smoking weed. I'm glad they denied him. Maybe he'll learn his lesson when he is dead.
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AdviceMan
04/14/17 1:04:52 PM
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That's cool.

If the lungs don't go to him, they'll go to someone else. Someone is gonna die.
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fire_bolt
04/14/17 1:27:37 PM
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Fair, next. The legality of pot isn't the issue here
They deny people transplants for drinking too and alcohol IS legal.
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itachi15243
04/14/17 1:30:43 PM
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Another hospital did give him the transplant for all of you wishing he would've have died for smoking weed a few times.
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JE19426
04/14/17 1:34:17 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
The doctors who decided this should be stripped of their right to practice. They ignored their hippocratic oath. Do no harm my ass, they were willing to let a kid die because he smoked a harmless plant


What makes you think these doctors made a Hippocratic oath?
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Paragon21XX
04/14/17 1:40:13 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
The doctors who decided this should be stripped of their right to practice. They ignored their hippocratic oath. Do no harm my ass, they were willing to let a kid die because he smoked a harmless plant

Not all medical schools administer the Hippocratic oath these days contrary to common belief. A survey a number of years ago revealed that less than half of surveyed schools give the Hippocratic oath or some modified version of it.
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zinezinzadan
04/14/17 1:48:28 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
I find it funny that a majority of posters itt are seemingly ignoring the fact that another hospital is doing the transplant in spite of this knowledge.


I wish they weren't.
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DirkDiggles
04/14/17 1:54:23 PM
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There is a very strict guideline on who gets transplants. Smokers and drinkers get pushed further down the transplant list because of their past habits and choices. Transplants are decided on by a panel of doctors, not just one. If a majority of the doctors found that he wasn't deserving of new lungs, there has to be more to the story that is left out, after all, this is a duckbear topic. He loves to omit facts in his stories.
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Darklit_Minuet
04/14/17 2:04:18 PM
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JE19426 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
The doctors who decided this should be stripped of their right to practice. They ignored their hippocratic oath. Do no harm my ass, they were willing to let a kid die because he smoked a harmless plant


What makes you think these doctors made a Hippocratic oath?

It sounds to me like they made a hypocritical oath instead, denying people life instead of saving their lives
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voldothegr8
04/14/17 2:45:36 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
There is a very strict guideline on who gets transplants. Smokers and drinkers get pushed further down the transplant list because of their past habits and choices. Transplants are decided on by a panel of doctors, not just one. If a majority of the doctors found that he wasn't deserving of new lungs, there has to be more to the story that is left out, after all, this is a duckbear topic. He loves to omit facts in his stories.

Another hospital did the transplant.
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ZCheveyo
04/14/17 2:48:02 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
It sounds to me like they made a hypocritical oath instead, denying people life instead of saving their lives

You act as if the choice is "Save him or throw the lungs out."

They didn't choose to not save him, the lungs most likely went to someone that they decided to be a higher priority. That's how these things work.
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Gojak_v3
04/14/17 2:59:49 PM
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Didn't read, but if all other things being relatively equal and you have one patient that didn't smoke weed and one that did, you give it to the one that didn't. Especially when we are dealing with lungs. It would be crazy to give it to anyone that smokes anything.
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