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JaKyL25
06/19/12 10:54:00 AM
#101:


Lopen posted...
And I'd be perfectly fine with that but the problem is she lead into all of this with mental breakdowns before Punk's "I dig Crazy chicks" and before Kane was in the picture. So she can't be totally on the manipulative end of the spectrum. And there's enough evidence of her being manipulative that she probably can't be totally on the crazy end, either (though you could actually explain away everything she's done as whims of a crazy person, on a stretch)


Mental breakdowns, yes. Like SMuffin said, she lost the love of her life for the crime of giving him a good luck kiss. She was devastated for a month and kept trying to crawl back to Bryan and just make things right again, but he kept refusing. That was legit. There was no psychotic behavior or manipulation there, just a dark attachment to a dead ideal.

THEN Punk entered the picture, and THEN the "psycho behavior" started happening.

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Lopen
06/19/12 10:56:00 AM
#102:


I'm pretty sure she attacked Caitlyn and stuff before Punk was in the picture-- and more specifically, proclaiming that he digs crazy chicks. Also to take away from the theory is that... Punk really isn't buying into her at all. That's not manipulating Punk that's going into stalker mode on Punk which is sign of a crazy not a manipulator.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:00:00 AM
#103:


But yet she's still manipulating his success.

She flipped out on Kaitlyn because Kaitlyn dared belittle her pain over losing Bryan. Their conversation was going well and she was accepting Kaitlyn's outreach of support for helping her move on UNTIL Kaitlyn said "This pity party over Daniel Bryan has to stop."

*SLAP*

She wasn't crazy towards Kaitlyn without motive.

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Lopen
06/19/12 11:02:00 AM
#104:


Crazy with motive is still crazy, though!

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muddersmilk
06/19/12 11:02:00 AM
#105:


I think we have now spent more time discussing this angle then WWE Creative.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:03:00 AM
#106:


Lopen posted...
Crazy with motive is still crazy, though!


Right but it's not INSANE. There's a twisted AJ logic behind all of this, which is all very immature and self-centered but still goal driven.

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Lopen
06/19/12 11:05:00 AM
#107:


Crazy isn't always "I don't have a motive" it's more often "I have a motive but no one understands it."

Also manipulating his success is a kinda "crazy" goal in itself while we're at this.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:09:00 AM
#108:


I never said she wasn't crazy. Crazy like a fox is still crazy! I'm just saying that it's not some off-the-wall "wow what will that psycho do next?" crazy.

Manipulating his success also goes back to her relationship with Bryan. He used her to manipulate his success! That's what she knows!

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Kinglicious
06/19/12 11:10:00 AM
#109:


AJ being the savior of the divas is the best thing that happened to it in a long time.

It only took someone to be literally crazy.
Also I do love the premise of she too became addicted to being the best in the world. That's honestly rather brilliant and a new level, dragon's obsession with it was also hers. They're meant for each other.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:14:00 AM
#110:


My biggest fear really is that this angle loses Bryan in the background as it now becomes more about Punk and Kane and AJ.

Bryan is the catalyst of all of this and it is to him that the ultimate downfall should happen.

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Lopen
06/19/12 11:17:00 AM
#111:


Well I'm just saying as long as you think she's crazy then my interpretation of the events is totally a possible one. Which it'll end up being is all in the follow up.

Although I'll say regardless of which one it ends up being it'll still be annoying to watch for me all the same because she's either a tryhard by design or a tryhard by AJ's acting/physical shortcomings which is annoying to watch either way. But I'll at least be able to respect the writing/AJ's acting if it turns out that it's all intentional and over embellishing for MOTIVE.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:19:00 AM
#112:


I envision a day soon where Bryan realizes that maybe he underestimated AJ, that she really COULD be very useful to help win matches with, as she has been demonstrating recently.

And then he takes her back

And then she screws him over deliberately.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:25:00 AM
#113:


And Lopen is definitely not wrong in his assessment that we care more about this BECAUSE it's our dream girl AJ doing it.

If everything else was the same except the girl was played by Winter I doubt we'd all care as much.

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Lopen
06/19/12 11:26:00 AM
#114:


Winter is way better than AJ anyway.

Y'all are crazy.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:29:00 AM
#115:


I'm still upset that Russo didn't go with my "Winter is Angelina Love's Tyler Durden" storyline.

I'm just taking it out on her, I'm sorry.

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CoffeeNinjaB8
06/19/12 11:33:00 AM
#116:


I bet im late but I ****ing love this Kevin Steen shirt

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 11:34:00 AM
#117:


I hadn't seen that one, that's awesome.

Man, Steen vs. Richards 2 is like the ONLY thing worthwhile on the ROH PPV this weekend.

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06/19/12 12:12:00 PM
#118:


I have no problem with AJ going berserk.

I like it when WWE leaves their established cookie cutter wrestler types once in a while.

Also, we need more new wrestlers with respectable non-perfect win-lose records!

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TheCapisBack
06/19/12 12:16:00 PM
#119:


GTM posted...
I have no problem with AJ going berserk.

I like it when WWE leaves their established cookie cutter wrestler types once in a while.

Also, we need more new wrestlers with respectable non-perfect win-lose records!


The last 3 people to get this treatment were like Batista Orton and Cena. And Rhodes and Ziggler sorta, though their records kinda sucked.

So youre probably right!

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TheCapisBack
06/19/12 12:17:00 PM
#120:


Jakyl25 posted...
And Lopen is definitely not wrong in his assessment that we care more about this BECAUSE it's our dream girl AJ doing it.

If everything else was the same except the girl was played by Winter I doubt we'd all care as much.


I personally would care more.

Winter is basically MY dream "diva" though, so that's fair.

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GTM
06/19/12 12:30:00 PM
#121:


From: TheCapisBack | #119
The last 3 people to get this treatment were like Batista Orton and Cena. And Rhodes and Ziggler sorta, though their records kinda sucked.

So youre probably right!

sounds sarcastic cause we dont need more Ortons and Cenas >_>;

But I mean, there are too many matches on Smackdown where we know who's going to win nowadays.

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muddersmilk
06/19/12 12:39:00 PM
#122:


Actually if we had more Ortons and Cenas it would be better because that would mean the current two wouldn't have to do everything.

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Rad Link 5
06/19/12 12:47:00 PM
#123:


http://botchedspot.com/2012/06/18/following-the-blueprint/

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edwardsdv
06/19/12 2:29:00 PM
#124:


From: muddersmilk | #122
Actually if we had more Ortons and Cenas it would be better because that would mean the current two wouldn't have to do everything.

Precisely. It is no coincidence that Cena is ALWAYS in the main event, to the point where even Orton has been crowded out for the last couple years.

They need new stars, and that means pushing the right people. Right now they seem to only really want to push people with low ceilings. Punk was a complete accident and the roof for he and Bryan is kinda low for different reasons.

They do have a few "Sky's the limit" guys coming up though, like Richie, Antonio and (with the right push) Brad Maddox.

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Uglyface2
06/19/12 2:33:00 PM
#125:


I haven't been following wrestling in the last few months (new job, less energy for late nights), but I have been following AJ's Twitter account. All I've got to say is, it's sad that her career is only going to go as far as she can stick her tongue down people's throats.
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TimJab
06/19/12 3:50:00 PM
#126:


just found out i'm going to best in the world this weekend awww yeah

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SmartMuffin
06/19/12 4:37:00 PM
#127:


From: Jakyl25 | #113
And Lopen is definitely not wrong in his assessment that we care more about this BECAUSE it's our dream girl AJ doing it.

If everything else was the same except the girl was played by Winter I doubt we'd all care as much.


If they did a Madison Rayne crazy chick angle I might literally die.

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06/19/12 5:20:00 PM
#128:


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/63151095

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edwardsdv
06/19/12 5:52:00 PM
#129:


From: SmartMuffin | #127
From: Jakyl25 | #113
And Lopen is definitely not wrong in his assessment that we care more about this BECAUSE it's our dream girl AJ doing it.

If everything else was the same except the girl was played by Winter I doubt we'd all care as much.


If they did a Madison Rayne crazy chick angle I might literally die.

The way shes acting about this crush....you may need to prepare a will.

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SmartMuffin
06/19/12 5:53:00 PM
#130:


Except the crush is going to be Garrett which will probably just make me vomit.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 5:57:00 PM
#131:


That would confirm her status as crazy though!

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SmartMuffin
06/19/12 5:59:00 PM
#132:


I'm not sure I've ever actively hoped that a company would just totally forget about and abandon an angle before, but I certainly am when it comes to this one!

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voltch
06/19/12 6:02:00 PM
#133:


We need a 5th generation blue chipper.

Oh man that blue chipper, he's got a million dollar smile and all he does is wave to the crowd. There's no way he can fail.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 7:22:00 PM
#134:


SmackDown spoilers are remarkably uninspiring.

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FFDragon
06/19/12 7:22:00 PM
#135:


Smackdown is generally uninspiring.

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Wanglicious
06/19/12 7:24:00 PM
#136:


that's a good sign usually!
SD spoilers have a habit of being rather bleh or bad and then the show ends up being good.

also watching raw now, gotta say, slater got busted in like 3 parts from that shot, jeez.
and i've never seen anyone sell an ankle lock so well. especially a standing one.

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Wanglicious
06/19/12 7:27:00 PM
#137:


also, there is some serious amount of truth to ace saying that we're the losers as a result of that cena/show match.
i didn't know wwe ribbed its own matches too.

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XIII_rocks
06/19/12 7:34:00 PM
#138:


From: Jakyl25 | #134
SmackDown spoilers are remarkably uninspiring.

There's a few good-looking things about it I think.

Sounds like there's at least 3 solid matches, Show is done with Cena - or so it seems - and we might be getting a Ryder/Sandow feud which would be awesome.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 7:48:00 PM
#139:


FFDragon posted...
Smackdown is generally uninspiring.


You take that back!

If forced to watch only either Raw OR SmackDown from the Brand Split to present I would choose SmackDown in a heartbeat!

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MartinFF7
06/19/12 7:58:00 PM
#140:


I read the Superstars spoilers, steering clear of Smackdown spoilers... wrestling in a dark match won't preclude you from wrestling on SD, will it...? If so, I'll be disappointed!

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06/19/12 9:36:00 PM
#141:


From: Jakyl25 | #139
FFDragon posted...
Smackdown is generally uninspiring.


You take that back!

If forced to watch only either Raw OR SmackDown from the Brand Split to present I would choose SmackDown in a heartbeat!

From the brand split sure, but lately smackdown is 75% squashes.

Also smackdown has RAW rebound so you still get raw during smackdown anyways!

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SmartMuffin
06/19/12 9:37:00 PM
#142:


Smackdown has Sandow, so it wins. Also less Cena, Show, HHH, Johnny, etc.

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edwardsdv
06/19/12 9:38:00 PM
#143:


Fun Fact:

I havent watched a full episode of Smackdown when it aired since Wrestlemania.

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edwardsdv
06/19/12 9:39:00 PM
#144:


This is primarily because Impact on thursdays and not wanting to watch 4 hours of wrestling in two days.

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 9:55:00 PM
#145:


Honestly I don't think I've even seen 100 SmackDowns "when they aired" in the show's 13 year history.

Just because I catch every episode of everything WWE puts out there doesn't always mean I do it in a timely fashion. <_<

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SmartMuffin
06/19/12 9:56:00 PM
#146:


I haven't watched a single wrestling show when it aired in several years...

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JaKyL25
06/19/12 9:56:00 PM
#147:


You haven't ordered ANY PPVs in several years?

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SmartMuffin
06/19/12 9:57:00 PM
#148:


Oh, PPVs, sure. I get BFG and WM every year. THIS YEAR I got the rumble. That's about it.

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Dr_Football
06/19/12 9:58:00 PM
#149:


Dark segment: Jack Swagger comes to the ring, grabs mic. "that's right, say my name. I'm the Captain of the Combover, the All American American American Jack Swagger. I should be on this show in the main event, not Ziggler. There's greatness in me that wants to have spending money and get out and buy a new pair of shoes. I'm more man than anyone backstage. I do not suck. Look at my hair. It's like an ocean of blond riding on lightning."

HHH's music hits to a MONSTROUS reaction. He asks for the mic from Sawgger, kicks him in the gut and Pedigrees him. The music only stopped for 10 seconds. The crowd loved this!


2 straight weeks, not sure if this is good sign or bad sign >_>

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06/19/12 10:01:00 PM
#150:


From: SmartMuffin | #148
Oh, PPVs, sure. I get BFG and WM every year. THIS YEAR I got the rumble. That's about it.

I have only ordered Money in the Bank and Elimination Chamber from WWE in the last year.

From TNA I ordered Final Resolution, Sacrifice, Slammiversary, and I went to the theatre for Lockdown.

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