Board 8 > Board 8 Mafia Discussion Topic 37 - North Pole has finally arrived.

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EDumey
01/10/12 3:04:00 PM
#351:


If we were to do Hidden Alt Maf, we'd need to do the signups somewhat privately. Unless you're purposely typing differently than you normally would, I'm fairly sure it would be tremendously easy for me to pick out who is who. Take out my word bank of players, and it gets a little bit more difficult.

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Achromatic
01/10/12 3:05:00 PM
#352:


I would bet a tremendous amount of cash and prizes that if I wanted to not be known I would not be known!

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Lopen
01/10/12 3:10:00 PM
#353:


From: manticore16 | #350
Pedagogical=/=Logical?


If you're doing something "pedagogical" that doesn't actually teach you anything, that's pretty illogical, yes.

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SBell0105
01/10/12 3:12:00 PM
#354:


I can read people pretty well in person.

On the internet? Not so much.

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htaeD
01/10/12 3:15:00 PM
#355:


but would the scumteam know who is who?

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masterplum
01/10/12 3:22:00 PM
#356:


From: SBell0105 | #340
you can only sign up as an alt that no one knows?


This one

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manticore16
01/10/12 3:22:00 PM
#357:


Lopen posted...
From: manticore16 | #350
Pedagogical=/=Logical?
If you're doing something "pedagogical" that doesn't actually teach you anything, that's pretty illogical, yes.


Actually… no, you're right, I haven't gotten that much better at reading people. Or lying. Or bluffing. Or holding firm and debating my point and actually having it hold up.

Dammit. Why can't I actually take things from the life lessons that I want to learn?

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masterplum
01/10/12 3:23:00 PM
#358:


From: htaeD | #355
but would the scumteam know who is who?


If they wanted to share!

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Lopen
01/10/12 3:27:00 PM
#359:


I'm pretty sure you're being facetious there, but you shouldn't be.

Message board mafia is a game. Getting better at lying there, reading people there, debating there, it doesn't have any bearing on actual social situations. You might get better at doing these things on a message board but I don't think that's even the case. The problem is that mafia presents a scenario that isn't particularly like things you'd debate about or lie about or read people on in a real social situation.

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Luis_Sera89
01/10/12 3:33:00 PM
#360:


Playing a game under unknown alts with unknown entrants should definitely happen at some point, if only for the fact it would be hilarious.

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SBell0105
01/10/12 3:34:00 PM
#361:


masterplum posted...
From: htaeD | #355
but would the scumteam know who is who?
If they wanted to share!


I can't imagine how impossible the game would be and how awesome.

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htaeD
01/10/12 3:38:00 PM
#363:


Plum is already host of 2012, even if he doesnt host it

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masterplum
01/10/12 3:38:00 PM
#364:


From: Luis_Sera89 | #360
Playing a game under unknown alts with unknown entrants should definitely happen at some point, if only for the fact it would be hilarious.




This summer it will happen.

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Lopen
01/10/12 3:43:00 PM
#365:


To be fair knowing you Ulti I'm pretty sure you always think you run circles around your friends in debates

You just think you do it better now because you get better looking every day so to speak, and just happen to play mafia now so you may falsely attribute it to that

I don't know maybe I'm wrong. I feel if you're good at conversational skills you'll be intrinsically better at mafia with regards to some things, but I feel message board mafia is so far removed from social situations (in more than one way) that it won't really help you. Then again psychology is a powerful thing so maybe just thinking it helps you will help you. *shrug

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Luis_Sera89
01/10/12 3:45:00 PM
#366:


Although posting restrictions on low karma alts may be an issue.

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MysteriousStan
01/10/12 3:46:00 PM
#367:


Which is why the game will be over the summer. Gotta make those alts now and build up that karma!

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SBell0105
01/10/12 3:48:00 PM
#368:


So then No Moderators allowed to sign up.

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htaeD
01/10/12 3:52:00 PM
#369:


poor Ngirl

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SBell0105
01/10/12 4:00:00 PM
#370:


not like she wouldn't replace out anyway

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masterplum
01/10/12 4:15:00 PM
#371:


I just looked it up, after one day you can post 30 messages a day. That should be enough I would assume, as it would be 60 messages per game day. nobody NEEDS more then that.


Still, it would be useful if everyone made a hidden alt now so that they hit the 75 Karma no posting restriction barrier.

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Achromatic
01/10/12 4:18:00 PM
#372:


From: masterplum | #371
I just looked it up, after one day you can post 30 messages a day. That should be enough I would assume, as it would be 60 messages per game day. nobody NEEDS more then that.


Still, it would be useful if everyone made a hidden alt now so that they hit the 75 Karma no posting restriction barrier.


I am offended.

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masterplum
01/10/12 4:21:00 PM
#373:


From: Achromatic | #372
I am offended.


well then I would make your hidden Alt now!

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Uguu_of_Death
01/10/12 4:23:00 PM
#374:


Lets do this!

I totally forgot this was my sig here!

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Panthera
01/11/12 5:42:00 AM
#375:


Hidden alt mafia needs to establish in advance whether it's within the rules or not to hint at "who you are" so I know if I can try to provoke Ulti into revealing himself by implying I was Ulti and then acting like such a moron he'd never be able to tolerate watching his name be besmirched <_<

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masterplum
01/11/12 7:42:00 AM
#376:


You can lie about your identity just as you can lie about your role



I thought of this for a while last night, I have some great ideas for it.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 8:20:00 AM
#377:


Most people would be pretty terrible at concealing it, I think.

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EDumey
01/11/12 8:23:00 AM
#378:


If my goal was to conceal my identity, I'm sure I could change my style enough to fool you guys. However, if my goal is to win a game of mafia, I'm fairly sure it won't take way too long to figure out. Enough people have problems playing the game in general, it's somewhat more difficult to fake while still being effective.

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SBell0105
01/11/12 9:58:00 AM
#379:


I think we'd all be acting like Ulti.

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htaeD
01/11/12 10:11:00 AM
#380:


in fact we should all just call ourselves Ultimaterializer2/3/4 and such
bwhahaha

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OInsaneOne32
01/11/12 11:51:00 AM
#381:


Ulti Mafia!

Where everyone acts like Ulti.

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neonreaper
01/11/12 12:00:00 PM
#382:


no one can guess who the other people are until the game is over

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Articuno2001
01/11/12 2:34:00 PM
#383:


literally obsessed

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OInsaneOne32
01/11/12 2:49:00 PM
#384:


Also, everyone will auto-vote whoever they think is dowolf.

But seriously, I think this Unknown Alt Mafia game needs to happen. I fully expect people to try to personify other people's play styles.

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masterplum
01/11/12 4:45:00 PM
#385:


I have officially started making roles for Hidden Alt Mafia

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BakusaiTenketsu
01/11/12 5:32:00 PM
#386:


Signups would be simple. Everyone PMs Plum with their Main account with the name of their Alt account. Plum simply updates the Signup thread with the alt names only.

I dont really think it would matter if scum know who the personas behind their alts are, but it would be cool if they did stick with the Alt status only. The thing that I really like about this game is how much it will return to the root of what mafia is. Notoriety should be fairly minimized, and we can actually see skill at work, and who does and doesn't have it.

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SpeedYoshi
01/11/12 5:34:00 PM
#387:


alternatively, just host the game on invasionfree or something

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 5:35:00 PM
#388:


Well, the concept is nice, but I don't think it'd work out in practice.

I mean, can you imagine eaed writing with a posting style that doesn't make it completely obvious who he is?

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 5:35:00 PM
#389:


From: SpeedYoshi | #387
alternatively, just host the game on invasionfree or something


That's a pretty high-tier typo.

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masterplum
01/11/12 7:48:00 PM
#391:


From: UltimaterializerX | #390
plum really isn't the guy who should host something like that though.




Why?

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eaedwards6400
01/11/12 9:19:00 PM
#392:


From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #388
Well, the concept is nice, but I don't think it'd work out in practice.

I mean, can you imagine eaed writing with a posting style that doesn't make it completely obvious who he is?


Thank you very much.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
01/11/12 9:20:00 PM
#393:


In a way, that practically proves my point, in that it was difficult to imagine.

Just seems weird.

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eaedwards6400
01/11/12 9:25:00 PM
#394:


It would be simple the make a persona I feel the real trouble would probably be the train of thoughts. Some people think differently than others.

Like would a Chris or an Ulti be able to hide their arrogance enough to make it last? Would I be able to stop myself from putting my foot in my mouth? Would Reg be able to stop himself from raging? It would be like asking us to be completely different people.

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MajinZidane
01/11/12 9:56:00 PM
#395:


hidden alt mafia should be run on an invisionfree board imo. host makes all accounts however he sees fit, assigns you a username, and role/flavor.

that way there is no problems w/ posts and we eliminate metagaming usernames.

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Achromatic
01/11/12 9:58:00 PM
#396:


From: eaedwards6400 | #394
It would be simple the make a persona I feel the real trouble would probably be the train of thoughts. Some people think differently than others.

Like would a Chris or an Ulti be able to hide their arrogance enough to make it last? Would I be able to stop myself from putting my foot in my mouth? Would Reg be able to stop himself from raging? It would be like asking us to be completely different people.




this is pretty insulting considering how well I disguise myself every game.

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kinged6400
01/11/12 10:09:00 PM
#397:


Achromatic posted...
From: eaedwards6400 | #394
It would be simple the make a persona I feel the real trouble would probably be the train of thoughts. Some people think differently than others.

Like would a Chris or an Ulti be able to hide their arrogance enough to make it last? Would I be able to stop myself from putting my foot in my mouth? Would Reg be able to stop himself from raging? It would be like asking us to be completely different people.


this is pretty insulting considering how well I disguise myself every game.


Insulting or not. You still understand my point.

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masterplum
01/11/12 11:46:00 PM
#398:


From: MajinZidane | #395
hidden alt mafia should be run on an invisionfree board imo. host makes all accounts however he sees fit, assigns you a username, and role/flavor.

that way there is no problems w/ posts and we eliminate metagaming usernames.


I think thats too much hassle to be honest.


It would be to your advantage to not have your identity known, so I would think the username disguise would be up to you

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SBell0105
01/12/12 4:11:00 AM
#399:


metagaming usernames?

How hard is it to just make a random username that has nothing to do with anything?

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SpeedYoshi
01/12/12 5:29:00 AM
#400:


From: masterplum | #398
It would be to your advantage to not have your identity known


not necessarily

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