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I dunno I tried dog in Vietnam and it was pretty delicious.

This is the definition of a cold take, TC.

Kitt posted...

Shit's so high class, I had to bust the Supreme shirt out.

Curious! What are those 3 vintages watches in the middle, and the pocket watch on the back of your hand?

Tried.

Meh... Scratching the side of the case by having them next to each other? No thank you.

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Smallville posted...

Yeah but casios. are not sapphire crystal. Sapphire cr is very important. Stay away from like fashion watch automatics like Kenneth Cole, Chinese movements, terrible

Sapphire crystal is nice, sure, but definitely not inherent for a "good" watch. They only started featuring sapphire crystal in the 80s iirc. Prior to that they used plexi crystals or mineral crystals. Both of which were fine, particularly plexi crystals which had the possibility to be brought back to like new condition by using polywatch paste.

There are plenty of vintage watches with plexi crystals that look amazing and work perfectly as daily drivers! Honestly, sometimes I prefer it over sapphire crystal, as some companies either use a low quality AR coating, or too much AR coating. The AR coating can scratch or smudge, thus defeating the purpose of the sapphire crystal. The crystal might not be scratched, but it will still appear as though it's scratched if the watch company did a clumsy job. This is why Rolex only adds AR coating on the underside of the sapphire crystal.

Smallville posted...

oh you're asking me for a pic right? i thought you were asking another guy in this topic. I don't have a pic but i have a bunch of citizen eco drives, citizen radio controlled some seiko quartz and and a seiko solar. Do any other watches give you better bang for your buck than those watches? One hamilton swiss automatic

Honestly, hard to beat those in terms of value for money... But then again, you can buy a Casio F-91W and everything pales in comparison when speaking of value for money. What I will say though, if those watches speak to you in terms of design, fit and feel then it's a fantastic watch for the money. There are several brands I'd consider a ripoff when it comes to value for money, but the ones you mentioned aren't even close to that.

Smallville posted...

i remember you winged, you have a breitling right? Those are on avg even more expensive than omegas iirc.

Hey! Yeah I've got several Breitlings amongst other brands (Omega, Rolex, Patek Philippe, etc). The core models of Breitlings are roughly on the same price as Omega. Depending on the model though you can get more value for money with either brand, but both are quite strong. They both have history, iconic designs, and robust watches. On the lower end of both brands I think Omega offers better value for money with their manufacture "coaxial" movements. Breitling still hasn't made the jump to manufacture calibers for their time only or time & date watches.

Do you also think that usually swiss automatics are better than japanese automatics, and obv better than chinese automatics on avg.

It really depends on what you mean with "better". Japanese movements are unbeatable when it comes to value for money. You can get an Orient with an Epson movement (Japanese), or a Seiko 5 with a 7S26 movement for around 100 if you buy preowned. Swiss movements are considerably more expensive. The finishing isn't necessarily better either, nor is the realiability - it really depends on the watch brand. Watch brands can order movements from Sellita or ETA (both Swiss, non in-house movements) and decide on what finishing level they'd like to have on said movements, or if they want the movement regulated/tested to cosc levels. These are aspects that can drastically increase the price! Finishing doesn't make a watch movement more robust, reliable, or accurate.

Chinese movements aren't bad as they're basically knockoff Swiss movements that had their patents run out. More often than not, the finishing, overall "feeling" of any kind of interaction like winding, setting, chronograph pushers is quite poor. This is obviously reflected in the very low price, so despite being Swiss myself, I'm definitely not criticizing the Chinese.

TC, what are some of the watches in your collection? Got a pic?

I'm also really into watch collecting!

To answer the question. Oven clock, wall clock, table clock, and all my mechanical wristwatches. As I have quite a few of those, I'm used to setting my watch in the morning, I enjoy winding and setting my watches. It's an enjoyable 30-40 seconds for me personally.

Zurich, Switzerland.

If you're gonna talk about how expensive it is here, salaries are adjusted for it.

Anyway. Good luck.

Yes. I moved into a new condo with my family early this year. We basically got an extra room & floor compared to the last condo. I put all my games and consoles down there but rarely even get the chance to play any more so when I do I just end up playing in the living room. The times I have played in the game room (located downstairs) it was when I played Halo online with a high school buddy to avoid waking up the family.

The_shibe posted...

Im telling you, Russia had to do with the Israel thing too

Most conspiracy theories are stupid - this one is very very likely to be the truth though. Classic Putin BS this shit I tell you.

While I definitely consider myself on the liberal side, "slightly" anything beats "hardcore" anything as I feel "hardcore" comes with so much more BS. It would be annoying to have someone make their liberal-ness their entire personality - so yeah, no thanks.

I mean, a 36/40 IS A 9/10. Hardly a flop.

From what I heard it's more difficult than the other 2D Mario games, perhaps that pulled the score down? In my book that's something positive.

Really excited to play it.

pinky0926 posted...

I wrestled with a girl and her experience with wrestling made her better at it than me. Is that your idea of a story too wild to be possible?

It's the physical contact with a girl that got him. To some people that's simply an impossibility.

If you're in for something dark then I highly recommend Kaiji. It really goes deep into the dark side of human nature. You will 100% enjoy it.

Last Saturday morning. They were great. It's a breakfast I never have to push my kids to eat, so we like having them on weekends sometimes.

"Adults"

Judging one person.

Okay.

Smashingpmkns posted...

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Lmao

lmao indeed, but I can imagine Trump's security detail might have a thing or two to say if he held the gun next to Trump properly.

That looks dry as fuck. Wouldn't even take one bite of that shit.

cjsdowg posted...

Do you have to have one of those meat spinning things for those ?

Yes. Don't believe I've ever seen a Kebab place without those spinny things.

cabcalloway1983 posted...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk&pp=ygUTbXIgcGluayBkb2Vzbid0IHRpcA%3D%3D

Mr.Pink is on point here.

Fuck tipping culture, and fuck the fact that servers aren't paid a decent wage. Am I the one who should solve the problem by tipping? No fucking way. I happily tip if the service is exceptional, but more often than not the service is subpar to average - in these instances I won't even tip 1 cent.

For the record, I live in Switzerland, where the minimum wage for servers is around the equivalent of $25/hour. Though if I lived in the US, I would stick to this principle.

faizan_faizan posted...

Some need to floss, some don't. Not everyone's teeth are the same.

Everyone needs to floss. The only exception is if there are gaps between all your teeth, making it possible to get between them with regular brushing. This is the case with children with baby teeth.

Adults with regular teeth with no gaps need to floss. There are places you simply will not reach with regular brushing, and those are prone to getting holes.

Beef bowls
Katsudon
Burgers
Dner Kebabs

Yum...

I could not agree more.

Shenmue 1 and 2
Phantasy Star Online
Dead or Alive 2
Skies of Arcadia
Jet Set Radio
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2
Power Stone
Ikaruga (although this was originally an arcade game)
Rez
Soulcalibur

And many more. What a great console... *tears*

People don't drive motorcycles. People ride motorcycles.

Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario World
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Bros. 2
Super Mario Lost Levels

Never did play Yoshi's Island, but it's on my list.

If you're older than 10 years old and are still mixing up "your" and "you're" there's also an issue.

JebronLames posted...

really, the watch industry is as strong as ever? i thought that wasn't true. Is that just the swiss watch industry?

I should have been clear "luxury watch industry", of which the largest part is obviously Swiss. Japan and Germany are also substantial within the watch industry but yes, as a whole the luxury watch industry is doing incredibly well at the moment.

reincarnator07 posted...

A $10 Casio will tell better time than any mechanical watch, yet I don't think most people would tell you that it's a superior watch to even a Tag Heuer, let alone something like a Rolex or Omega.

All of the brands that you've mentioned here are accurate enough for every day use and way too inaccurate for anything where precise timing is required.

This is true. Mechanical watches have transcended from tools to luxury objects. Buying a mechanical watch isn't something you purchase for precision more than it is an appreciation of craftsmanship. The watch industry is going stronger than they've ever been going, so clearly the watch industry is onto something here. Physical objects that are seemingly unnecessary in today's age (luxury watches) still seem to be relevant. It's a shimmer of hope in this day and age where we own less and less (thanks, subscriptions) and rent, lease, subscribe etc. more and more.

KazGT6 posted...

The Seiko 5 sports was off like half a min per day the ,Cole, worse

Yeah unfortunately -30s may still be within their tolerances, but just on the worst possible side. You can bring it to a competent watchmaker who will regulate it for you. It'll take the watchmaker 15 minutes and he can check that it's around +-3-5 seconds on the timegrapher.

KazGT6 posted...

I've had like 2 fashion watches automatics--Kenneth Cole, a bulova automatic and a Seiko 5 sports automatic all pretty terrible

The Kenneth Cole... Yeah, not really for me. At all. I've held them before and they just do nothing for me at all.

A Seiko 5 Sports though, great sports watch for an affordable price. I own an SKX009 which is kind of the predecessor of the Seiko 5 Sports. both watches you could buy and never look back for the rest of your life.

KazGT6 posted...

Hey winged, what do you generally think of upper level Japanese movements or Chinese movements? Or medium level Japanese...etc...?

I love and own several Japanese watches myself. I love anything from the low end (sub 200) to the high end (5 digits). It really depends how punchy a watch can be within their price bracket. An Orient Bambino Small Seconds costs less than $200 and uses a Japanese, robust movement made by Orient (owned by the Seiko Group). It has hacking seconds, a manual wind feature and will run for 10+ years without a service.

Higher end Japanese watches are phenomenal as well and generally represent incredible value. Grand Seiko's finishing is incredible for the money you pay, however up until recently their finishing was really only incredible when looking at the case, dial, dial furniture, and hands. The movements looked pretty good too, but weren't amazing - until recently. When they introduced the Grand Seiko 9SA5 with the Grand Seiko White Birch, this changed completely. Their movements have finally come to the level of the rest of the watch, which is also reflective of their price. Grand Seiko have been moving up market in the last few years which I'm completely okay with seeing as they are developing higher quality timepieces. This is saying quite a lot, because as mentioned before they have been creating excellent watches since the 60s.

On Chinese movements... I'm really not a fan. The finishing is all machined (nothing wrong with that) but they are known to have problems. The difficulty is that when these movements have problems, it's very hard or even impossible to find a watchmaker who will touch them. It's usually cheaper to throw the watch away and buy another. This kind of defeats the purpose of a mechanical watch for me, so I generally stay away. Don't get me wrong there are Chinese movements that have featured very expensive functions like a tourbillon that are impressive because they manage to do it for a very low price. But the problem, again, if it breaks, you can throw it away.

The Japanese have a strong history in watchmaking, and it really shows. The quality is excellent and the prices are more than fair. You will get most bang for buck with Japanese watches. Below you'll see a picture of a Seiko Alpinist Ginza Edition I've acquired in 2021. It's just an example of insane value for money. The dial is beautiful and changes depending on how light hits it. It's reminiscent of the cobblestone floor in front of Ginza's first Seiko boutique. You have a 3 day power reserve movement, 200m water resistance, a screw down crown and a bracelet. If you wanted something Swiss with the same features, you will be paying closer to 4000. This Seiko however cost me $800.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/0/AAMtjIAAEyUE.jpg

Fluttershy posted...

not gonna lie kinda curious what the differences between the movements are. i can kinda picture what you mean when you say 'better finishing' like shit is just snappy.

Well basically, ETA and Sellita are so similar that it's extremely hard to tell them apart. This is because ETA, who designed, developed, patented and created their movements lost their patents after X amount of years, and were therewith not allowed to call these movements their own anymore. Sellita, another Swiss movement manufacturer essentially copied these movements and are now selling them to all kinds of watch companies. The Swatch Group chairman Nick Hayek Jr. has stated numerous times that he intends to stop supplying other watch companies with the Swatch Group's ETA movements which made companies like Sellita grow incredibly fast inside the last decade.

The movements are practically indiscernible because you can order the same movements with different grades of finishing. A time only ETA 2824 and Sellita's SW200 are the same movement. But if you see an ETA 2824 with worse finishing than a SW200, that doesn't mean Sellita's is better (and vice versa). If anyone claims one is better than the other, that's a great way of knowing said person doesn't know what their talking about. The answer is: It depends which level of finishing the respective watch company has ordered. Also worthy of note, a watch company can order an unfinished movement, and do the finishing themselves. This means they buy a movement for around $100 and invest 30-40 hours per movement, which obviously drives the price up substantially.

Kenissi on the other hand is a movement manufacturer created by Tudor, Rolex's sister company. They (unsurprisingly) make movements for Tudor watches, but have also began supplying other watch brands as of recent. Norqain, Breitling, Oris and others. I've heard that Chanel has purchased a stake as well, but this is something I don't know much about. Kenissi movements are known to be very robust, but in my humble opinion are not pleasing to look at. I find them quite boring looking and the finishing really isn't anything to write home about. I'm not criticizing Kenissi, they are purposely not finishing the movements to a high standard to be as affordable / accessible as possible. All 3 movement manufacturers create great and reliable movements, but ETA and Sellita have the advantage that they can be serviced by any competent watchmaker.

What I mean by better finishing is really how pleasing a movement is to the eye. Yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but if we're talking about bevelling, cote de Geneve, perlage, and various other kinds of finishing, these are reserved for more high end movements. If you've seen a Tudor movement before, which use Kenissi, there is barely any finishing on the components (clearly reflective of their relatively low prices). If you get a higher grade Sellita or ETA, you will notice the finishing has a 3 dimensional look to it, with polished edges and bevels having a beautiful mirror finishing without or with barely any inconsistencies.

It's very hard to say but I'd say all 3 brands are roughly on the same level. Breitling has different price brackets within their brand. Their models they have in their catalog which use their manufacture caliber B01 are in the upper price bracket within their brand. They reserve the B01 for Navitimers, Premiers, Chronomats, and a few more. I personally do not see IWC's chronographs as superior to Breitling's chronographs, in fact I'd say the Breitling in-house chronographs are a league above IWC despite being lower in price.

IWC has been trying to establish themselves as a premier brand above the likes of Omega and Breitling, but to be completely honest I see them as inferior. They use mainly Val Fleurier movements, which are relatively affordable movements acquired through their own group's movement manufacturer. They use Val Fleurier to make movements for Panerai and entry level Vacheron Constantins as well amongst others.

If we're talking about Breitling's entry level models, which use ETA movements, Kenissi movements, or Sellita movements, I'd say IWC is on par or possibly slightly above in terms of quality, finishing etc. But they are priced accordingly, in fact, IWC's watches are prices well into the 5 digits. Some of their 8 day power reserve big pilots (46mm diameter) are sold for around what a Rolex Daytona costs at retail, which I'm sorry if you like IWC - it's a shameless ripoff.

Onto the subject of Omega. Omega is a fantastic value for money brand, but their prices have been creeping up since the pandemic. Their Speedmaster Professionals have seen 3 price increases ever since they updated it with the new 3861 movement. Luckily the 3861 was a very worthy upgrade:

-Brand new anti magnetic movement
-Coaxial escapement
-Superior bracelet which got a quick adjustment clasp system introduced in January this year
-Slightly more refined case design
-Higher quality dial
-Better finishing on the movement

These are reasons you won't hear me complaining about Omega's price increase from 2021. The further price increases since 2021, while annoying are still within a range where I don't see how anyone can call them greedy. This is unlike IWC and many other brands within Richemont - where humungous prince increases have happened despite not increasing the quality or even sometims DECREASING the quality! I'm looking at you Panerai!!

So all in all. I think in Breitling's case, it really matters which models we're looking at. If we're looking at models with the B01 movement, I see those Breitlings on the level of Omega watches. IWC on the other hand, I see them as inferior to both brands despite being more expensive! In the end, quality aside, you should get what you want. If you just like the look of the IWC, then that's the watch for you. All I can speak about is the value for money for what you actually get. Omega on the other hand compared to Breitling has a way more consistent quality in terms of case and movement finishing, dial quality, packaging, bracelet, clasp, reliability etc. All of their watches (save for a few insane pieces with productions of less than 20 pieces a year) have a very similar level of quality with price differences due to complications rather than using lesser quality / non in house movements for certain models like the way Breitling does it. On this subject btw. I have it on a good source that Breitling will soon stop using non in house movements and will (finally) develop non chronograph manufacture calibers instead of purchasing from different movement manufacturers like they've been doing since decades.

I'm gonna be honest I kind of liked the mask. Sure I didn't like it all the time, like when it was hot and stuff. But I kinda enjoyed the anonymity.

7 months. Moved here in January.

Yakuza
Final Fantasy
Zelda

Like 5 minutes ago, actually.

If there's a suggestion I can make, it's learn as much Japanese as you can before going!

Grats!

In certain countries with declining birth rates this would be a good thing. But how often does it happen these days?

ZannoL posted...

Fall weather is so nice

My favorite season. Temperatures are pleasant and colors are beautiful

Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2, assuming Kojima was the one to remake them.

Honorable mention: Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2 remakes with Nocturnes engined would have been pretty bomb as well.

Alone: Zelda: TOTK
With friend: Judgment

Caffeine has zero effect on me, as in, I can sleep right after an espresso. My best friend and I would play video games at my house 3-4 times a week from 10pm to about 4am. We'd make ourselves a coffee at 2-3 in the morning every now and then and would always laugh about how weird it was.

Those were the good old days... Now I have 2 daughters, and whenever I try to stay awake past 1am I'll fall asleep in any position that isn't standing...

I remember having to run into the grocery store because I forgot something, and had to leave my 2 and 4 year old alone in the car for like 3 minutes. I was going as fast as I can to keep the time as short as possible and felt so bad while I did it.

These MFers left an 11 month old ALONE in their car for 3 HOURS!

What. The. Fuck.

Shenmue 3. People who played it and waited almost decades for it like me will know where I'm coming from.

While it had its moments and it was certainly an ambitious project, it was kinda just... Bad...

It's funny, I still really look forward to games despite having almost no time to play them. Had my first daughter in 2018 and second in 2020 and all my free time is spent with them. The only time I have time for myself is from their bed time (about 21:00) till midnight or shortly after, so like 3-4 hours a day if I'm disciplined about it.

Yeah it's crazy how good it is. I played and finished it about 10 years on the GBC and loved every second of it. Then played the remake on the Switch and again, loved every second.

I sincerely hope Nintendo brings back more topdown Zelda games.

As with many things. Legalize with regulation.

On an unrelated note: How are the watch purchases going TC? Did you finally get called on your OP?