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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 8:04:14 PM
#51
That's not the right way to phrase it; it's not they who let down Marvel. it is asinine to attract best-selling writers from outside of comics in the hopes that they will draw in readers commensurate with their stature and expect that a splashy New York Times article a year before those comics launch will be enough to market the books. You cannot expect a reader familiar with Gay or Coates but generally unfamiliar with comics to understand that if they walk into a comic book shop (which itself is a big ask and an antiquated model) to buy a comic the day a comic releases that their sale is effectively worthless. They can't go after an audience that buys outside of the direct market and cancel books before they even have their first trade. Marvel is in the business of selling comics. If they want to cling to a market that consistently undercuts their efforts, they have to be willing to put in the work to make readers understand that they need to pre-order books months in advance to have an affect on sales. Do not leave that on the creators, because not every person is Kelly Sue DeConnick and is willing to put in the money and time to market their book before it's out. Comics and comic sales are dumb, Marvel is not unique in this, but they've proven time and time again that they are worse at selling books than DC or other outlets.

Black Panther and Black Bolt are two of the finest comics in recent memory. Coates got Black Panther. His book is a beautiful contrast to the hard cuts of Priest, his comic structure has a poetic rhythm to it. Ahmed's dialogue in Black Bolt is second to none. His characters all have unique voices, and both what they say and how they say it ties back into the books themes. They did their job. Marvel didn't do their's.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 7:15:46 PM
#40
LapisLazuli posted...

I love Laura which is why I don't really want to read that.

Counterpoint:

EKSM3vS
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02/20/18 7:09:13 PM
#147
Into the Breach will be $15. Not a bad price.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 7:00:32 PM
#34
swordz9 posted...
Im not even sure if the only library in my town is open still

You have described my own personal hell.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 6:54:46 PM
#32
Have you thought of subscribing to Marvel Unlimited? It's a pretty great service, if you don't mind being 6 months behind on current comics. They usually run promos around releases of big movies too, maybe you can get a free month.

Libraries are good places to go for comics as well.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 6:47:56 PM
#30
Marvel has some great books (many of which they cancelled in December, in a move that makes a lot of sense today). You're not getting Ta-Nehisi Coates, Roxane Gay, Saladin Ahmed, or Nnedi Okorafor at DC. Unfortunately, because Marvel is bad at selling comics, you're probably only getting them briefly at Marvel.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 6:42:39 PM
#27
CeraSeptem posted...
To be fair Mister Miracle is a great fucking book

It's also written by Tom King (hey Marvel remember when you had Tom King) and had a good marketing push, but also, it's Mister Miracle, if this book is outselling the fucking Avengers you need to take a look at yourself.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 6:32:02 PM
#23
Flash routinely outsells the Avengers, for instance. Mister Miracle, admittedly early in its run, is outselling a lot of Marvel books. The X-books have collapsed, for a variety of reasons. Marvel's recent history is a lesson in how to not sell comics.

swordz9 posted...
Does this mean Logan is coming back?

dude read All-New Wolverine, Laura is great
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 6:18:47 PM
#17
ClyTheCool posted...
It's events that killed me reading marvel. Those suuuucked.

Events and relaunches have been used by Marvel to diminishing returns over the last decade. So it makes sense that Marvel are now offering a 'Fresh Start' with absolutely no details on why this is needed, what they did wrong, what will be different this time. This is pretty basic stuff. A big reason DC has been able to eat Marvel's lunch, apart from consistency, is goodwill efforts, whether it's cheaper comics for consumers, or offering returnable comics to retailers with Rebirth (very important!). You're not alone.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 5:52:34 PM
#13
CeraSeptem posted...
Because changing creative teams and direction is hugely, vastly, incredibly different from rebooting the entire history of characters?

I think if you'll look at the recent history of Marvel and DC comics, you'll find that DC books are more stable in direction and creative teams than Marvel books, and people have responded in kind, with traditionally strong Marvel books low in current run counts getting outsold by lower tier DC books in the 30s. This is not something that happened before Marvel hit on their relaunch fetish.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 5:49:23 PM
#10
what's fun is that after Avengers stops shipping weekly in April, it'll be 10 issues shy of 700, virtually assuring another renumbering in 2019.
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TopicMarvel rebooting their comics AGAIN
iiicon
02/20/18 5:40:42 PM
#7
Marvel had four waves of Marvel NOW! between 2012-2014, did All-New, All-Different Marvel in 2015, Marvel NOW 2.0 in 2016, and Legacy was last September.
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TopicBest Game of 2017 Elite Eight **Horizon Zero Dawn vs Super Mario Odyssey**
iiicon
02/20/18 3:51:20 PM
#4
Mario
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TopicBurnout Paradise Remaster coming to Xbox One and PS4
iiicon
02/20/18 3:27:54 PM
#4
if this doesn't have girlfriend they shouldn't even bother
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02/19/18 11:10:02 PM
#144
what's life without imperfections
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02/19/18 10:41:59 PM
#142
haha, PSN refunds. good joke.

I never played original Dissidia so I dunno how it compares!
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02/19/18 10:38:11 PM
#139
9HDsy5O

what have i done

what have i done
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02/19/18 3:59:18 PM
#135
I'm on board with MGS2's particular brand of bullshit. Where that game fails for me is that Big Shell is such a terrible level, and it's like two thirds of that game.
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TopicBest Game of 2017 Elite Eight **Nier: Automata vs. Resident Evil 7: Biohazard**
iiicon
02/19/18 3:48:53 PM
#6
Nier
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02/19/18 3:03:46 PM
#128
oh I never played Peace Walker on an actual PSP. Emulated on PC or PS3 the way to go.
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02/19/18 2:58:28 PM
#125
how about those mana games huh
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02/19/18 2:56:28 PM
#123
Peace Walker is fine. There's some egregious story moments. It stretches too little content over too much game. But the gameplay and structure is solid. It's handheld MGS5.

MGS2 at 14 though? Woof.
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02/19/18 1:18:55 PM
#119
This is the only bad one.

And it's very bad.
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TopicMega Man Legacy Collection 1+2 hits Switch on May 22nd
iiicon
02/19/18 1:09:41 PM
#20
ninkendo posted...
surprised they're actually selling it as one package and not separate ones

looking into this, and it appears that MMLC2 is a digital code. would've been nice to have all 10 games in one cart

edit: oh that was just covered
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02/19/18 1:06:53 PM
#117
TopicMega Man Legacy Collection 1+2 hits Switch on May 22nd
iiicon
02/19/18 1:02:52 PM
#15
Taloquin1914 posted...
Now a Megaman X collection?

<insert "Shut up and take my money">

they're doing that.
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TopicMega Man Legacy Collection 1+2 hits Switch on May 22nd
iiicon
02/19/18 12:57:32 PM
#12
Weakupedia posted...
Nintendo is gonna half to address the dpad issue on the pro controller before i even think about getting this

quarter they gonna do
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TopicWhat 5 games would you liked to see get remaked and remastered?
iiicon
02/18/18 5:55:36 PM
#33
is this topic just a front to get people talking about shadow man
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02/18/18 5:43:34 PM
#115
well it is one of the greatest games of all time, after all
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TopicOverwatch: Lunar New Year event live now, ends on March 6th.
iiicon
02/18/18 5:43:17 PM
#173
my last two legendaries have been the Mercy Lunar New Year skin and her Imp skin, neither of which I like very much
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Topichelp me figure out where i'm at in demon's souls
iiicon
02/17/18 9:21:01 PM
#19
hello
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02/17/18 8:29:27 PM
#113
my nuanced opinion is that it's a prettied up new Contra game and I just don't care about that style of game.

the kids are enjoying it though.
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02/17/18 6:11:49 PM
#111
breaking news: I don't like Cuphead one bit.
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TopicHow is Hollow Knight?
iiicon
02/17/18 4:10:04 PM
#32
iiicon posted...

dude play dark souls

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TopicHow is Hollow Knight?
iiicon
02/17/18 10:45:59 AM
#23
transience posted...
I hate the Dark Souls comparison. how is Hollow Knight at all similar?

dude play dark souls
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Topichelp my butt is trying to kill me
iiicon
02/16/18 11:46:57 PM
#2
butt sledge
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TopicBest Game of 2017 Round 3 **Xenoblade Chronicles 2 vs. Prey**
iiicon
02/16/18 9:28:36 PM
#12
prey
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02/16/18 9:24:10 PM
#108
breaking news: Cuphead is hard
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TopicPSN Flash Sale: Mass Effect: Andromeda $10, Injustice 2 UE $32, SMB $1.50
iiicon
02/16/18 9:05:09 PM
#15
infamous second son, or, we wanted to make a game about native americans but didn't want to consult any of the pacific northwest indigenous nations, so we recreated atrocities committed against native americans, repurposed terminology that has specific meaning among aboriginal people to demonstrate we don't know what we're doing, cast white dudes to play all our native americans, and had a genocidal ending for good measure.
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TopicGiant Bomb 2018: This Website is Very Good
iiicon
02/16/18 5:38:07 PM
#237
I hate this SOS game.
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TopicDo you like the "non-cutscenes" that games have?
iiicon
02/16/18 2:33:37 PM
#17
they're called in-engine cutscenes
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TopicPSN Flash Sale: Mass Effect: Andromeda $10, Injustice 2 UE $32, SMB $1.50
iiicon
02/16/18 1:37:23 PM
#5
Also, the Titanfall 2 singleplayer campaign is a top 5 first person shooter campaign
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TopicPSN Flash Sale: Mass Effect: Andromeda $10, Injustice 2 UE $32, SMB $1.50
iiicon
02/16/18 1:34:39 PM
#2
everyone should buy the Metro bundle in anticipation of Exodus
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TopicWhat are the best RPGs you can play on an emulator now?
iiicon
02/16/18 1:15:45 PM
#9
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (PPSSPP)
The Last Story (Dolphin)
Baten Kaitos (Dolphin)
Breath of Fire 2 Retranslation Patch (Higan)
Trails in the Sky (PPSSPP)
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne (PCSX2)
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iiicon
02/16/18 11:58:54 AM
#106
Or the crowdfunding campaign for a Switch version of Rollercoaster Tycoon.
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02/16/18 11:41:15 AM
#104
Atari getting into cryptocurrency is at least a lot more on brand than the Iced Tea company that pivoted to cryptocurrency.
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TopicRadiant Historia: Perfect Chronology *Spoilers*
iiicon
02/15/18 9:06:23 PM
#13
Punnyz posted...
port + Extras?

this one
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TopicRadiant Historia: Perfect Chronology *Spoilers*
iiicon
02/15/18 7:43:56 PM
#8
Forgot I ordered this. Then I learned it was out on Tuesday rather than the usual late week 3DS releases. Then I learned my copy from Amazon won't arrive until next week. Good stuff.

KamikazePotato posted...
Is the music updated?

Nope.
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TopicWhat are some good or popular games you do not like?
iiicon
02/15/18 3:20:33 PM
#18
BetrayedTangy posted...
Frankly it's an unfinished, mess of a game that costs way more than you get out of it

it's a $30 game with an average playtime of 200 hours
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02/15/18 2:21:53 PM
#94
Don't have it on DS?
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