Lurker > colliding

Absurd doesn't necessarily mean bad. I would agree that there is a lot of absurdity in FFVIII, but it's also quite brilliant. It's also not really more absurd than what happens in X, and people rarely complain about that one as much as they complain about VIII. Junction system sucks though sorry!

To make this not a secret FFVIII topic:

I'm going to choose to ignore Kitase or whoever says that 7 and X are in the same universe. I think he was just doing it for the clicks. I'm also going to ignore all the X-3 audio drama stuff that's supposedly canonical and really really bad.

Spirits Within just existing and nearly destroying the brand/company is a great answer. I want to give them kudos for taking risks but it's just a terrible movie.

10/10

Again, I'm giving this and the prior case tens because taken together I truly think it's the third best case in the series after 2-4 and 3-5

Kotetsu534 posted...

More interesting combat arenas, with more structures and positioning based encounters (makes the interplay between range and melee more interesting, think Eligor and Airbuster in Remake).

For sure agree with this.

Like West Side Story
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57 . Wald Wales

The thing about living in a big city like Crossbell is you got to get used to crime. For example, warring gangs. On one hand you've got the red gang, who loves heavy metal and beating people up. Their leader is this guy named Wald who has a secret crush on the rival gang leader and everyone knows it but he can't say anything cause toxic masculinity. He's been known to get roided up and destroy the slums every once in a while.

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56 . Wazy Hemisphere

On the other hand, you've got the blue gang, who are religious fundamentalists who also enjoy beating people up. His name sure is something. I guess it's cool, but maybe it's too cool? Other notable aspects of Wazy: he's a sex worker, he's a secret member of the Churchy version of Ouroborous, and he sucks just like every fist-based / unarmed Trails party member.

Up next: The nicest characters in the Trailsverse

Kill Bill: Taito Style

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60 . Walter, the Direwolf

Yeah, it's kind of hard to take this guy seriously due to his character design. But he's the real deal Evander Holyfield when it comes to Taito style, and I'm not talking about Bubble Bobble. He's so serious about martial arts that he killed his girlfriend's dad in a duel. What's wrong babe? He started it?

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59 . Kilika

Speaking of said girlfriend, Kilika starts off as a Bracer Guild desk person, which is a pretty unflattering position in the Trails universe (apologies to Michel) and ends up becoming Calvard's version of Lechter. Quite the glow up. It's cool that there's more to her character besides "Walter/Zin love triangle" nonsense.

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58 . Zin

Speaking of Zin, remember when you bought Trails in the Sky for the PSP because Board 8 recommended it to you, and remember how you read the instruction book and saw a picture of Zin and thought "I can't wait to meet this Fei Fong Wong looking-guy - he's probably really interesting and likable based on this blurb" but then you met him and realized he's altogether pretty average in every regard? No? Just me?

Don't get me wrong, Zin's totally a cool bro but he's overshadowed by what ends up being one of the best playable parties in JRPG's. Sorry man.

Up next: The neverending battle between blue guy and red guy continues

10

I get around the "incomplete" nature of both of these cases by giving them both 10's.

Villains I don't know what to do with
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62 . Xeno and Leonidas

If any characters were to be a package deal it's these two. They stand out like a sore thumb in CS2 but by the end of the CS4 I found them surprisingly endearing. The fact that there are people reading this list who are in the middle of CS2 are making me feel bad about spoilers but I did say "reader beware."

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61 . Alan Richard

The main antagonist of FC, Alan Richard is still one of the series' more sympathetic villains, despite being a relatively minor charcter. Sky 3rd really adds a lot to what was already an interesting foundation.

In all honesty, these two entries probably should've come before the last three but oh well.

Up next: Calvardian Representation

Blatant sex appeal
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65 . Scherazard

Scherazard, pictured here moments before disaster, is Board 8's second favorite silver-haired woman known for whipping. No one's beating Franziska for that title. I know for a fact there are people who genuinely dislike the alcohol stuff in Trails. I totally respect where they're coming from. Personally I don't have a problem with it, so the ranking has more to do with her being overall more boring than you'd think. For being the sex appeal character she's weirdly lawful good. And the romance with Olivier felt really kind of out of nowhere, but I'm not sure if that's her character's fault or just bad writing.

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64 . Musse Egret

You can't spell regret without Egret. That's just facts. Musse, pictured here satisfying a part of the Falcom fandom I never want to meet in person, is Trouble. Musse makes FF7 Remake Jessie look prim and proper. The thirst can never be quenched. She's also like a genius or some such nonsense able to plan ten thousand moves ahead just cause. The degree to which the sex appeal is a performance to throw people off is up for debate (unless you're nasty and end up romancing her, in which case may God have mercy on your soul).

"In all 14,000,605 futures, how many do we actually NOT get embarrassed while playing this game in front of people?"

*zero sign*

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63 . Instructor Sara

I admit it, Sara's hot. Like Schera, perhaps the drinking will catch up with her someday, but when you're 25 or whatever knock yourself out. She's both fun and flirty! But yeah, CS3 took it too far by having her ACTUALLY kiss Rean (even just on the cheek) as part of the main storyline. Just a smidge too desperate with that one. If players want to embrace their hot for teacher fantasy by spending all their bond points then fine, but don't make her canonically smitten with the student she met when he was 16. I could not care less about North Ambria either so her backstory in those later games wasn't all that compelling.

Up next: My two dads

Leonhart4 posted...

Is it worse than the Anthony Bennett draft?

It's the worst "all-time" according to some

8.5

Quite good. This case really lets you know that you're playing an honest to goodness high quality AA game again

pyresword posted...

Modern Trails is afraid to be dark I think (to its great detriment), but Sky and Crossbell really weren't.

I honestly don't think anything comes close to Renne's backstory in those games. Maybe Kevin's but that's also Trails 3rd. The cult itself gets mentioned in Zero but the way it's described is way tamer than what's in 3rd.

2B

Gran Turismo
Ridge Racer Type 4
Mario Kart 8
Wipeout

I'm not Okay (I Promise)
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67 . Beryl
Simply love this little creeper. She's not particularly helpful in any way, but I dig an out of place gloomy NPC. Not a lot to say here. Maybe I should've put Claire or Julia on the list but what can I say? I like Beryl more.

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66 . Renne

"Renne sucks."

To elaborate, I don't think she's all that bad a character, but I do find her kind of annoying. She's like the dictionary definition of a "hat on a hat." First she's a spy-type gothic lolita character. Then she's a mech-character. Then she's a hacker. Then she's a redeemed character and kind of just becomes a hanger-on to Estelle and Joshua (weirdly making them less interesting in a way). Then there's her tragic backstory, which still feels like a weird anomaly in a series that is usually afraid to do dark violent stuff. It would be like if there was one episode of Avatar that had r*pe and graphic torture. Also her backstory just kind of "exists" in Trails the 3rd but doesn't really impact any other scene that features Renne in any other game.

Up Next: Problematic Waifus

v_charon posted...

I think the writing is on the wall now. Thinking Nuggets in 6. Pretty unfortunate for long-time fans of the team to have to witness all the overhyping and hoopla the media gave us; at the end of the day, we just aren't ready for a title run. Edwards is too young and perhaps after all, KAT isn't going to be the second guy they need.

way too early to say this, but I'm the king of the reverse jinx so I see what you're doing

7

pretty good but saying it's the best case in either game is unhinged seabass

8

It's the only case where you can hear susato's objection theme

man thibs really didn't want to call time out huh

no new posts today due to mother's day mood disorders

Who's the best Trails mom? It's clearly not Irina.

had to come here to discuss how cursed the pistons are

it's a bad draft so it probably won't matter that much anyway

Missile

Can we get some better names, please?
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69 . Bleublanc, aka Phantom Thief B

"Ha hah! Nice!" (said in Bleublanc's voice)

Everyone's favorite member of the Phantom Thieves summons his persona and becomes... this. He's really into beauty. He can freeze you by your shadows like Peter Pan. He likes to lead the party on wild goose chases following arcane riddles. I assume his name means "blue white" which would make his first name Red obviously. While his rivalry with Oliviert is kind of interesting, I must say his schtick gets old pretty fast. CS4: Playing as him is cool but doesn't necessarily add anything to the character.

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68 . McBurn, the Almighty Conflagration

It's a tale of two names. First, "McBurn" is the stupidest thing I've heard in a while, stupider than Bleublanc. Is he a Scottish Nobleman? Is he a discarded McDonald's menu item? Is he Scrooge McDuck's drag racing alter ego? Secondly, "the Almighty Conflagration" is trying way to hard. But then again, it's a trails thing. We live in a world with "the Golden Rakshasa" and "the Radiant Blademaster" after all. He burn stuff make go boom. He very strong. CS4: He from a different world and have scary final form. Burninate the countryside indeed.

Up next: Goth girls

Mordin Solus

If the knicks win game 3 they end up winning the series

If this ends up 2-2 then indiana wins it in 7

XIII_Rocks posted...

So I'm up to the date now.

How cringeworthy and bad is it? I've been putting it off for a couple of days.

it's honestly impressive how little of this game was cringey and bad considering the potential

*click click clack* "I'm in."
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71 . Jona Sacred

Jona Sacred, pictured here about to write an angry post about Fandom, is a top tier Pom Party player and a bit of hacker. Let me say: If you're mad that Jona's included, might I recommend that you look in the mirror? Perhaps we don't actually hate Jona because he's an annoying NEET shut-in. Perhaps we hate Jona because he represents what we hate about ourselves.

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70 . Campanella

The hacking doesn't stop there. Just when you think Campanella is some kind of magical fairy being from the dark ages, he/they're also showing up to hack the Crossbell geofront. Still one of the series's big mysteries, it's unclear if we'll ever find out Campanella's deal. My guess is that they're not "real" and are actually some kind of AI for the head honcho of Ouroborous. I also have a bad feeling in my bones that they're going to eventually reveal that Zemuria is a video game in the Xanadu universe, but that's neither here nor there.

Up next: Even more mysterious bad guys! Trails has bad villains.

I hope the Nugs don't get swept

NFUN posted...

what do you think "droll" means?

oops. I've been misusing that word forever. bad habit.

Thorn posted... what happened to character 73?

did they go to jail?

fixed

7

Cat flap is bad but I had fun

Go directly to jail if you want to romance
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74 . Sully Sullenberger

Sully is unique in that, as far as I know, she's a completely optional character in Zero and a pretty important character in Azure. So she's one of the few NPC's to graduate from having no face art to having face art (Mireille is another one, but she wasn't optional in Zero). A rags to riches story in many ways. You too can become a dancer even if you're born a Pokemon Trainer.

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72 . Princess Alfin

Annoying princess alert! So cringe. Between egging on Elise's incestuous infatuation with her brother and engaging in problematic flirtations herself, this girl simply needs to rein it in a little. You're like 14. Chill out. Take a cold shower. Take some lessons from Community: "Alfin's a little young, so we try not to sexualize her."

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71 . Alisa Reinford

Pictured here as "Magical Girl Alisa," Alisa is definitely not a "smol girl," but you should go to jail if you want to romance her since she's utterly droll. It's a crime to make the canonical girl this bad. I wonder how much of this is her English VA. I feel bad for her, because I just don't think she's given enough direction. But yeah she's terrible. Also her CS3 and 4 costume is atrocious - get it together Trails. Her arc is also basically "my mom is terrible, *confronts mom,* mom remains terrible, turns into terrible mom."

Up next: Get jacked into the matrix

Denny's/Ihop/Waffle House/Steak n Shake all feel different from Applebee's to me. They're Chain diners.

Applebee's
Olive Garden
Cheesecake Factory
Red Lobster

2B or not 2b?

2B

Boring Young (ish) Guys
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77 . Machias

Machias Regnitz, pictured here threatening to be part of the party, is dull all over. His personality is dull, his moves are dull, his backstory is dull. If I remember right, he had a friend of the family/cousin/babysitter pass away, and lo and behold she has yet to be brought back to life/revealed to be an Ouroborous Enforcer. There's still time I guess. I'm not sure he's ever had fun in his life. Maybe when listening to an opera record alone in his room.

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76 . Kurt Vander

The New Class VII deserves a new Machias, and so we have Kurt. The problem is Class VII is only three people, and then it's only five people. It sucks to be in a three person class and one of them is a complete dud in personality. He's a serious lad who is self conscious about being a slim svelte Vander instead of a chunky one. Dude, it's fine, just enjoy the fact that you're handsome and really good at dual wielding. First world problems.

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75 . Detective Dudley (Do Right?)

Dudley walked so Machias could... crawl? I guess that's how that metaphor would work here. Dudley's got some cool S-Crafts. Other than that he's Crossbell's Josette: a gun-wielding party member who shows up at the end and no one wants to use. He's also kinda sorta part of the Guy Bannings mystery... between he and Sergei they really should've figured it out better than they did.

Up next: Smol girls (part 1)

Love is Like a River
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79 . Annabelle

Admittedly the least important character on this list when it comes to the Phantasmal Blaze Plan, Annabelle is nevertheless higher ranked than the great Cassius Bright due to the twists and turns in her romance with...

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78 . Kenneth, Lord of the Lake

... this dude, who simply cannot be bothered to learn military science while the fish are calling. Sure, they're dirty nobles, so they don't really understand what it means to live off the land. Still they're a better couple than Estelle and Joshua and Scherazard and beer.

Up next: *pushes glasses up nose*

You down with OP People? No, not really!
Hot takes ahead. Let me remind you all that this list is just for fun!

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82 . Aurelia K. Le Guin

As the rest of this list will show, I have nothing against strong female characters. What I have issues with is a character who was barely utilized in CS2 suddenly being the strongest person in the world in CS3 and 4. I feel like she wasn't introduced in a way that makes me care about her, and so she just ends up being strong for the sake of being strong. I don't know anything about her other than that she's pretty and strong, and pretty strong.

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81 . Victor Arseid

This guy really gets the crap beat out of him over the series, which definitely puts him above Aurelia. He feels a bit more like a real person, albeit a real person who wears a stupid hat sometimes (and then a real person who wears a stupid mask sometimes). Great VA too. HOWEVER, he's still an overpowered guy who prevents the player from actually feeling like they've achieved anything by coming to the rescue all the time.

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80 . Cassius Bright

Yeah, I said it. Unlike Aurelia, Cassius is introduced in a sympathetic way, and I genuinely like him in CS2, but he's still just too OP for me to take seriously. I get that his OP-ness (say this out loud) is supposed to be juxtaposed with his goofy fatherly nature and his failure to save his wife and all that but I can only take so much Cassius-worship.

Bottom line: I don't like the super-strong supporting cast person who's either 1) never challenged, 2) loses an arm and is still the second strongest person alive, and/or 3) partial to saving the day too much. It's bad writing!

Up next: The best romance in Trails

6

It's fine. I probably like it a bit more since I was familiar with Soseki before I played the game and was pleasantly surprised.

dowolf posted...

Scarlet's kinda been rescued from the scrappy heap and maybe should be higher?

Yeah after the earlier post about Grimwood I'm trying to not mention Reverie stuff. That's fair though.

Dos Vidanyas Comrades
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86 . Gideon
85 . Vulcan
84 . Scarlet

It's kind of weird that these characters had code names (Comrade, G, V, & S respectively). Their actual names are code names too basically, unless their Christian name is Gideon (which I guess is from the bible to be fair).

I put them in this order. They're all kind of Kojima villains. Gideon's just an angry academic who can't get tenure. Vulcan is Vulcan Raven with hair and without the indigenous appropriation. Scarlet's secretly religious and only has one eye. You will regret your words and actions. And by that I mean, you'll regret that Rean saves her in CS2. She's probably the best one though cause she's got layers.

Anyway, the best thing about these characters is that they make you feel bad for Crow. I guess they make you hate Osborne too, but he doesn't exactly need the help.

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83 . Garcia

I feel like Garcia probably has his fans, considering that he's kind of cool in Azure, what with breaking Lloyd out of the pokey and all. On the other hand, can I remember any notable qualities about him besides "strong former jaeger?" The answer's no, and there's a lot of strong ex-jaegers with a bit more presence. Nice face turn though, and I remembered him BEFORE I remembered the actual main villain of Zero (Joachim) who doesn't make the list at all, despite being such a chill fishing dude.

Up next: Trails's obsession with power levels rears its ugly head

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I don't think there's a future for AAA gaming.

The writing's been on the wall for a while. It's simply grown too big

Final Fantasy VI (Super Nintendo)

Live a Live (Super Nintendo)

Demon's Crest (Super Nintendo)

Contra: Hard Corps (Sega Genesis)

Policenauts (PC

yeah I love it

It's a code

1+2 =3
2+9 =11
9+9+9+8=35

It's coming out March 11, 2035

Gropebell Arc

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88 . Mariabell Crois

Is drill hair still a thing? I know it was big in anime for a while there. Whatever the case may be, drill hair is one of Mariabell's saving graces. I don't remember if Mariabell actually physically gropes Elie in the way Shirley does but if not physically, she's doing so mentally for sure. She's also really into creepy dolls, which is a major red flag. There's story stuff that makes her kinda sorta interesting but other than that she's one of those anime women whose main purpose is to go "Aaah ha ha ha" every once in a while.

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87 . Ilya (many apologies for stealing someone's youtube thumbnail)

Y'all, we've only scratched the surface of the horny. Poor Rixia. At least Ilya was punished for her idol hands by having a chandalier dropped right on her dome. Let this be a lesson to keep your hands to yourself you sickos. Say it with me now Falcom: "being a woman does not make it okay to sexually assault women."

I could put Shirley here to complete the trio but I think she's a little better than this.

Up next: Some hot ILFS

9

This one legit gave me chills. Probably the peak of the first game.

Trails into Miscellany: The Legend of Who Cares (I couldn't think of a way to link these thematically)
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91 . Elise Schwarzer

God is dead, and your Elise/Rean fanfic killed him.

Someone get this poor girl to a family therapist. Doting on one's brother to this degree is typically a sign of an abusive household. For the record, Estelle and Joshua is also extremely gross but then Elise comes in and asks them to hold her virgin daiquiri. She's also S-tier boring; no one likes a prim and perfect angel.

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90 . Neithardt

Instructor Neithardt, who certainly has a first name but damned if I'm bothered to look it up, pictured here displaying the casual sexism this series is known best for. However, he did wife up Elliot's hot sister, so I'm sure there's some fucked up NTR doujin material for you nasty freaks out there.

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89 . Prince Cedric

Did this series need yet another blond white guy? I can't tell them apart after a while. One of the major plot points around Prince Cedric is how he was a whiny baby in one game and suddenly wasn't the next. He never actually stops being a whiny baby though. Surely they could've come up with a better character to pilot the red megazord.

Up next: The Gropings Will Continue Until Morale Improves

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I would say it's worse than any of the main 3 DRs. It's better than UDG, though.

correct.

playing this with decent load times and less slowdown will probably make it decent.

however, story-wise it's actually quite bad. It's an interesting experiment as to how the future of danganronpa might look but I think you gotta have trials.

AriaOfBolo posted...

I am ready to update this tag
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in terms of cultural significance I stand by this! but yeah I was probably trolling someone when I said this originally.

fair warning I just listed trails characters until I got to 100 so don't be expecting very many deep cuts here. everyone you expect will be on it, and yeah cedric's gonna be on it.

it's not estelle