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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:49:30 PM
#136
nicklebro posted...
anything of actual substance that I can see?

well there's plenty in post 120, but you dismissed the entire thing
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TopicBest Community bit
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:44:22 PM
#34

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TopicImagine two people shooting each other and the bullets collide in mid air.
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:40:58 PM
#2
bout tree fiddy
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:35:24 PM
#129
nicklebro posted...
averagejoel posted...
nicklebro posted...
averagejoel posted...
nicklebro posted...
You seem to have very little knowledge of Peterson in general, from your ignorance on Bill C16 to his stance on transgender people to his knowledge on Marxism and post modernism. Instead of demanding I do your homework for you, why don't you just listen to him and see what he actually has to say rather than just believing whatever you've read about him online. You might just learn something.

are you going to address anything I actually said or do you concede?

Did you not see me call out your blatant ignorance? Are you going to display a modicum of knowledge about anything you just mentioned and prove you're even worth responding to? I mean you said so much wrong in so short a span that I can't imagine this conversation going very far if I have to stop to explain everything to you every post.

you attempted to argue that Peterson was left-leaning. I gave you multiple examples, several of which are directly from your source, which makes me doubt this conclusion. I concisely explained why that video did not support your conclusion that Peterson was left-leaning.

you claim that this guy's ideas are so great, yet you don't even seem to know anything about him.

O ok, thank you for your opinion.

still waiting on your supposed evidence that Peterson is left-leaning
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TopicGunman held dozens of churchgoers hostage until being disarmed by a student
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:34:19 PM
#16
acab
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:30:05 PM
#127
nicklebro posted...
averagejoel posted...
nicklebro posted...
You seem to have very little knowledge of Peterson in general, from your ignorance on Bill C16 to his stance on transgender people to his knowledge on Marxism and post modernism. Instead of demanding I do your homework for you, why don't you just listen to him and see what he actually has to say rather than just believing whatever you've read about him online. You might just learn something.

are you going to address anything I actually said or do you concede?

Did you not see me call out your blatant ignorance? Are you going to display a modicum of knowledge about anything you just mentioned and prove you're even worth responding to? I mean you said so much wrong in so short a span that I can't imagine this conversation going very far if I have to stop to explain everything to you every post.

you attempted to argue that Peterson was left-leaning. I gave you multiple examples, several of which are directly from your source, which makes me doubt this conclusion. I concisely explained why that video did not support your conclusion that Peterson was left-leaning.

you claim that this guy's ideas are so great, yet you don't even seem to know anything about him.
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:08:01 PM
#123
nicklebro posted...
You seem to have very little knowledge of Peterson in general, from your ignorance on Bill C16 to his stance on transgender people to his knowledge on Marxism and post modernism. Instead of demanding I do your homework for you, why don't you just listen to him and see what he actually has to say rather than just believing whatever you've read about him online. You might just learn something.

are you going to address anything I actually said or do you concede?
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 8:12:05 PM
#120
nicklebro posted...
All forms of Liberalism are quite clearly on the left side of the political spectrum.

uh

no

this is blatantly incorrect, and I have no idea how this idea could even have occurred to you

And if you need one then sure, he supports universal healthcare.

this might be a decent start if he was American rather than Canadian, but it would still necessitate a lot more information than this.

if you want me to accept that he is left-leaning, I'm going to need many left-wing positions that he supports, and many right-wing positions that he condemns.

the fact that he's anti-collectivist, in my mind, inherently keeps him out of any leftist ideologies, so you're going to need all the more evidence for that.

the fact that he became famous for protesting against a transgender protection bill on the laughable notion that it would restrict free speech (another stereotypical right-wing "anti-PC/pro-Free Speech" position) is another strike against this idea.

in addition, he's a fucking university prof who has spoken at length about Marxism but has never, to my knowledge, done an actual deconstruction of the ideology, focusing instead on certain areas where the Soviet Union did bad things (and simultaneously giving cartoonish exaggerations of those bad things).

to top it all off, he's obviously aware that his audience is largely right-wing (at least, I hope he is). has he done anything specifically to disavow them beyond disavowing collectivist ideologies as a whole?
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 7:41:49 PM
#113
nicklebro posted...
https://youtu.be/lhEG69ZGwUI?t=206

Just listen to the man himself.

he says he's a classic liberal. that is not a leftist ideology.

"hopefulness" does not make someone lean "to the left", and conscientiousness does not make someone lean "to the right"

again: which leftist ideas does he support, and which right-wing ideas does he condemn?
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 7:12:26 PM
#107
-Gavirulax- posted...
averagejoel posted...
nicklebro posted...
Anteaterking posted...
nicklebro posted...
But for another liberal to point out the flaws and pitfalls of liberalism is eye opening and incredibly useful.


He describes himself as a "classical Liberal". Most historians consider modern liberalism to be disjoint from Locke/Smith style liberalism, so it's not really a case of someone self-criticizing a group they belong to.

I'm simply referring to him being on the left as opposed to being on the right.

he isn't on the left though. he seems to me like one of those radical centrists, at best


lmao, uh huh, we centrists are so radical wanting to take the best from each side rather than the usual blanket bullshit which envelops the majority when it comes to politics.

any good ideas from the right were co-opted from the left
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 7:04:49 PM
#104
nicklebro posted...
averagejoel posted...
nicklebro posted...
Anteaterking posted...
nicklebro posted...
But for another liberal to point out the flaws and pitfalls of liberalism is eye opening and incredibly useful.


He describes himself as a "classical Liberal". Most historians consider modern liberalism to be disjoint from Locke/Smith style liberalism, so it's not really a case of someone self-criticizing a group they belong to.

I'm simply referring to him being on the left as opposed to being on the right.

he isn't on the left though. he seems to me like one of those radical centrists, at best

I mean he himself says he's on the left, I'd like to know why you think he isn't though.

enlighten me: which leftist ideas does he support, and which right-wing ideas has he condemned?
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TopicNoted intellectual heavyweight Jordan Peterson argues with a bot on Twitter
averagejoel
02/16/18 6:57:23 PM
#101
nicklebro posted...
Anteaterking posted...
nicklebro posted...
But for another liberal to point out the flaws and pitfalls of liberalism is eye opening and incredibly useful.


He describes himself as a "classical Liberal". Most historians consider modern liberalism to be disjoint from Locke/Smith style liberalism, so it's not really a case of someone self-criticizing a group they belong to.

I'm simply referring to him being on the left as opposed to being on the right.

he isn't on the left though. he seems to me like one of those radical centrists, at best
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TopicAnybody here would prefer to have a blue collar job?
averagejoel
02/16/18 5:32:37 PM
#24
KazGT6 posted...
averagejoel posted...
KazGT6 posted...
what does that fist mean?

it's a symbol of solidarity among the working class. it can also be used as a sort of salute

isn't that also the symbol for the howard stern show?

I have no clue
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TopicAnybody here would prefer to have a blue collar job?
averagejoel
02/16/18 5:26:43 PM
#19
KazGT6 posted...
what does that fist mean?

it's a symbol of solidarity among the working class. it can also be used as a sort of salute
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TopicWhich language would you choose knowing these
averagejoel
02/16/18 5:24:37 PM
#13
I have some Japanese relatives. it would be nice to be able to converse with them in Japanese.

also I could help translate stuff
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TopicAnybody here would prefer to have a blue collar job?
averagejoel
02/16/18 5:22:42 PM
#15
CanuckCowboy posted...
Omnislasher posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
white because i'd rather work my mind than my body


work your mind while working your blue collar job; it's the perfect scenario


Also this.

Never understood how people figure carpentry and the like doesn't involve the brain. There are hundreds of types of white collar jobs that involve far less brain power than building a house from the ground up.

architects are kinda a mix of white and blue imo
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TopicAnybody here would prefer to have a blue collar job?
averagejoel
02/16/18 5:21:16 PM
#14
I've worked multiple blue collar jobs before and didn't really mind the work itself at all

I've worked 1 white collar job and also liked that

I guess my current job is more pink collar with a little blue mixed in, but it's my favourite yet. I hope to stay here for a while
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TopicShampoo is bad for your hair.
averagejoel
02/16/18 4:59:12 PM
#6
Asherlee10 posted...
No one wants to smell your dirty hair while you try to adjust to not using shampoo, though.

apparently you can use baking soda
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TopicIf there's a 1/7 chance you draw a specific card, and you draw 7 cards
averagejoel
02/16/18 1:20:50 PM
#25
Alkaloid posted...
This is easily proven false by looking at pokemon encounter rates.

Beldum has a 1/10 chance of appearing in the grass of Mt. Holukani in Gen 7. But it took me significantly more than 10 encounters to find one. (I didn't count, but it was over 30.)

Ergo, you cannot simply multiply the rate by the trials.

Also, Admiral is correct that the number of cards doesn't matter. (Similarly, the number of pokemon doesn't matter; it's infinite.) We can still draw conclusions based entirely upon the rate and number of trials, assuming (as he said) that we draw from the same pool of cards each time.

the number does matter though - op is correct if the number of cards is 7
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Topic2nd date with a Haitian girl tonight. what can we talk about?
averagejoel
02/16/18 1:14:06 PM
#1
the first date we talked about the imperialist exploitation of Haiti's people and land by France and, later, the US, but I want to discuss something new this time. What are some things Haitians like to talk about?
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TopicI'm confused why Black Panther is such a controversial subject here
averagejoel
02/16/18 1:08:09 PM
#28
DarthAragorn posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
I expect it to be good I'm just skeptical of the insane hype it's getting

its getting hype because people are excited about it. not because they're claiming a bad movie is good. they haven't even seen it yet...they're just excited to see it. there's nothing wrong with that.

I mean I've seen it compared to Shakespeare soooo

everything has been compared to shakespeare
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Topic2nd date with an Italian girl tonight, what can I talk to Italians about?
averagejoel
02/16/18 12:29:50 PM
#3
her asshole neighbour named Tony
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TopicI'm confused why Black Panther is such a controversial subject here
averagejoel
02/16/18 12:27:45 PM
#3
i wonder why a message board full of people who read a tabloid with a "black crime" section hate a movie with an all- or almost-all-black cast. what a mystery
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TopicIf there's a 1/7 chance you draw a specific card, and you draw 7 cards
averagejoel
02/16/18 11:25:22 AM
#2
this is only true if the total number of cards is 7
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Topicworst job interviews you've ever had?
averagejoel
02/16/18 11:03:09 AM
#18
I've never really messed up an interview, but there was one interview I had where I was seriously misled by the interviewers
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TopicCan you explain what "confirmation bias" is?
averagejoel
02/16/18 10:49:54 AM
#37
thanosibe posted...
averagejoel posted...
thanosibe posted...
averagejoel posted...
HydraSlayer82 posted...
Leftists only reading huffpost. Rightists only reading breitbart.

one of these things is not like the other
Here's your example TC.

unless you have the mindset that "these sources must be equally bad because they are equally distant from the Reasonable Centrist position", they are not equally bad
People are equally as bad at dismissing the argument of someone when those sources are used, as you did in that post. Trying to insinuate that huffpost isn't as bad as breitbart in the general sense is literal conformation bias. It would be different if we were talking an actual specific article.

Breitbart is a white supremacist tabloid. Huffpost is not.

QED
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TopicWere you bullied when you were in school?
averagejoel
02/16/18 10:22:00 AM
#11
quite a lot in elementary school. I changed schools for unrelated reasons and it stopped
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TopicCan you explain what "confirmation bias" is?
averagejoel
02/16/18 10:20:00 AM
#24
thanosibe posted...
averagejoel posted...
HydraSlayer82 posted...
Leftists only reading huffpost. Rightists only reading breitbart.

one of these things is not like the other
Here's your example TC.

unless you have the mindset that "these sources must be equally bad because they are equally distant from the Reasonable Centrist position", they are not equally bad
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TopicCan you explain what "confirmation bias" is?
averagejoel
02/16/18 9:34:05 AM
#11
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...
If you want an example, read any argument people make for Link beating any other character in a fight. Not that he cant beat any, but hes only ever put against folks way out of his league.

the thing about this is that Punching Out Cthulhu is kinda Link's specialty
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TopicCan you explain what "confirmation bias" is?
averagejoel
02/16/18 8:56:27 AM
#5
HydraSlayer82 posted...
Leftists only reading huffpost. Rightists only reading breitbart.

one of these things is not like the other
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TopicHas a villain in Star Wars ever been played by an Asian actor/actress?
averagejoel
02/16/18 8:19:03 AM
#5
pretty sure Rose's actor is vietnamese
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TopicThe MeToo thing really infuriates me
averagejoel
02/16/18 1:34:05 AM
#38
Solid Snake07 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
averagejoel posted...
ok then. you're blaming women for not being assertive instead of men for being fucking creeps


Does hitting on a woman make you a creep?

it does if you're in a professional setting and you're her coworker or her superior. it's definitely creepy and inappropriate in any situation where you have any authority over her


A boss hitting on their employees is not okay for obvious reasons. And continuing to hit on a co-worker who has made it clear they aren't interested is obviously not okay.

good. I'm glad you agree. now just stop blaming women for something that isn't there fault and it'll be fine
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TopicThe MeToo thing really infuriates me
averagejoel
02/16/18 1:23:24 AM
#35
Solid Snake07 posted...
averagejoel posted...
ok then. you're blaming women for not being assertive instead of men for being fucking creeps


Does hitting on a woman make you a creep?

it does if you're in a professional setting and you're her coworker or her superior. it's definitely creepy and inappropriate in any situation where you have any authority over her
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TopicThe MeToo thing really infuriates me
averagejoel
02/16/18 12:51:06 AM
#16
Solid Snake07 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
billcom6 posted...
you have bad opinions


Then please elaborate on where my flaw is

blaming women for not being assertive instead of men for sexually assaulting them


Stop making up strawmen just cause you don't actually have a point. Assault is assault and is a criminal matter. I'm talking about inappropriate behavior in the workplace. Like sexual jokes and shit like that.

ok then. you're blaming women for not being assertive instead of men for being fucking creeps
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TopicThe MeToo thing really infuriates me
averagejoel
02/16/18 12:44:26 AM
#6
Solid Snake07 posted...
billcom6 posted...
you have bad opinions


Then please elaborate on where my flaw is

blaming women for not being assertive instead of men for sexually assaulting them
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TopicDo you think that when many people make trump to hitler comparisons that...
averagejoel
02/15/18 12:01:07 PM
#4
Trump's popularity is due to xenophobic pandering. ideologically, they're very similar
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TopicMore trouble for #metoo leader Christina Garcia
averagejoel
02/15/18 10:41:51 AM
#3
today I learned that some people think #MeToo has leaders
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Topicmother gets 7 days in jail for baptizing daughter
averagejoel
02/15/18 10:15:53 AM
#5
myfox8
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TopicJordan Peterson trying to pick a fight with a Zizek Quotes twitter bot
averagejoel
02/15/18 9:52:18 AM
#9
Romes187 posted...
averagejoel posted...
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/963536145215733760

amazing. I wonder if he'll delete the tweet once he realizes


Hah still can't argue with his points huh?

It's sad watching the Marxists attempt to derail him. It's more sad there are still Marxists.

Good day

his points have already been thoroughly debunked. if you won't recognize that, it's on you
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TopicJordan Peterson trying to pick a fight with a Zizek Quotes twitter bot
averagejoel
02/15/18 9:09:30 AM
#1
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/963536145215733760

amazing. I wonder if he'll delete the tweet once he realizes
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Topic"Socialists just want to stay home, and play video games all day"
averagejoel
02/14/18 3:03:25 PM
#27
Mike_Stanton posted...
averagejoel posted...
Romulox28 posted...
Genocet1 posted...
Romulox28 posted...
thats kind of the endgame of socialism though, fully automated society where all your needs are provided and there's no incentive to work more than you have to, basically the NEET dream

Translation: I have no clue what socialism is.

care to enlighten me how im wrong?

generally, the idea is that your needs are provided if you work. this is contrary to the current system, where many workers do not have their needs met, and some have far more than they need while doing no work.

CEOs don't do any work lol

they certainly don't do any work that contributes to the production of any goods
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Topic"Socialists just want to stay home, and play video games all day"
averagejoel
02/14/18 2:28:54 PM
#23
Romulox28 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Romulox28 posted...
Genocet1 posted...
Romulox28 posted...
thats kind of the endgame of socialism though, fully automated society where all your needs are provided and there's no incentive to work more than you have to, basically the NEET dream

Translation: I have no clue what socialism is.

care to enlighten me how im wrong?

generally, the idea is that your needs are provided if you work. this is contrary to the current system, where many workers do not have their needs met, and some have far more than they need while doing no work.

true... until you achieve actual communism, and in today's day and age the goal most people would probably have for a society would be that it's more or less fully automated to meet their needs

I don't believe that human labour will ever be completely obsolete, but it's true that the total amount of necessary labour will be reduced over time. in the long run, this is a positive thing. it's important, though, that the benefits of this reduced labour go to everyone instead of just the elite
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Topic"Socialists just want to stay home, and play video games all day"
averagejoel
02/14/18 2:16:25 PM
#17
Romulox28 posted...
Genocet1 posted...
Romulox28 posted...
thats kind of the endgame of socialism though, fully automated society where all your needs are provided and there's no incentive to work more than you have to, basically the NEET dream

Translation: I have no clue what socialism is.

care to enlighten me how im wrong?

generally, the idea is that your needs are provided if you work. this is contrary to the current system, where many workers do not have their needs met, and some have far more than they need while doing no work.
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TopicWhat was the most fucked up post you ever saw on GameFAQs? >_>
averagejoel
02/14/18 2:02:17 PM
#107
DirkDiggles posted...
When fenderbender said it was alright to fuck a horse.

holy shit I completely forgot about that
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TopicHave you ever heard the word "synecdoche"?
averagejoel
02/14/18 1:23:54 PM
#7
my favourite synecdoche is the song "Goodbye Porkpie Hat"
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Topic'Black Panther' Is Marvel's First Genuine Masterpiece
averagejoel
02/14/18 12:23:22 PM
#7
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
How is a country that dont exist a shithole?

"how can Batman be the hero Gotham deserves when neither Batman nor Gotham exist?"
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TopicWhat was the most fucked up post you ever saw on GameFAQs? >_>
averagejoel
02/14/18 12:20:01 PM
#70
Genocet1 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Genocet1 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Genocet1 posted...
Please don't associate all leftists with people like this. Most of us just want to peacefully and lawfully throw Republicans out of power

and who would you like to replace them with?

Democrats.

I regret to inform you that you are not a leftist

Well, personally I'd like to replace them with socialists. But that will not happen. So I'll take Democrats.

it will not happen within the current system. which is why a revolution is necessary.
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TopicWhat was the most fucked up post you ever saw on GameFAQs? >_>
averagejoel
02/14/18 12:17:45 PM
#68
Genocet1 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Genocet1 posted...
Please don't associate all leftists with people like this. Most of us just want to peacefully and lawfully throw Republicans out of power

and who would you like to replace them with?

Democrats.

I regret to inform you that you are not a leftist
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TopicWhat was the most fucked up post you ever saw on GameFAQs? >_>
averagejoel
02/14/18 12:16:48 PM
#65
Genocet1 posted...
Please don't associate all leftists with people like this. Most of us just want to peacefully and lawfully throw Republicans out of power

and who would you like to replace them with?
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TopicWhat was the most fucked up post you ever saw on GameFAQs? >_>
averagejoel
02/14/18 12:16:12 PM
#64
thelovefist posted...
averagejoel posted...
thelovefist posted...
- An active user here arguing the age of consent should be lowered to 7 years old.
- An active moderator here saying that youtube comments laughing at someone being raped were, "pretty awesome"
- An active user here saying that there is a current class war underway and that killing the bourgeoisie was ok since in times of war killing enemy combatants was ok.
- An active user here saying that a trans woman is biologically the same as a woman.

2 of these things are not like the other 2

"I've said two of these things before so they're ok."

that's not why they're ok
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