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Antifar 02/16/18 9:15:31 PM #1:	Police then shot the student http://www.wlox.com/story/37504096/identity-of-suspect-new-details-on-shooting-at-faith-city-mission-released One man remains hospitalized tonight with non-life threatening injuries following an officer involved shooting [Antifar's note: JFC what a torturing of language] at Faith City Mission today. What's normally a place of worship turned into a crime scene when a man entered Faith City Mission with a handgun. "They said there was a gun in the building everyone started running all different ways," said Clay Murdock, a student at Faith City Mission. Murdock said he tried to get as many people inside their sound room as possible. "We're standing in there and everyone starts praying," said Murdock. "I went outside to see what was going on if I could get more people in there and right when as I went outside the guy was standing right in front of me with the pistol." Murdock said he then ran outside. Amarillo Police said the initial came in around 8:54 a.m. and indicated there was an armed suspect inside who had 100 to 150 people held hostage in the chapel. Sergeant Brent Barbee said officers entered the building when they encountered an individual who had a handgun. "The officers fired shots that struck the man," said Barbee. "After some additional investigation, they've learned that the man that the gun may have taken the firearm away from the original suspect in the call. The man who originally had the gun has been taken into custody." That man taken into custody has been identified as 35-year-old Joshua Jones, who is an apparent regular at Faith City. "He comes in here all the time, every day," said Murdock. "He sleeps right over there in that alleyway. He seemed like a nice enough guy." Faith City Mission Outreach Director Raymond Gonzales echoed that statement, saying he's never noticed any odd behavior. "Just yesterday I shook his hand and asked him how he was doing," said Gonzales. "He said 'I'm doing great.' It was a great day." While Faith City Mission will be closed pending the investigation, they are confident that all trust will be restored. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896228741] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Police then shot the student http://www.wlox.com/story/37504096/identity-of-suspect-new-details-on-shooting-at-faith-city-mission-released <quote>One man remains hospitalized tonight with non-life threatening injuries following an officer involved shooting [Antifar's note: JFC what a torturing of language] at Faith City Mission today. What's normally a place of worship turned into a crime scene when a man entered Faith City Mission with a handgun. "They said there was a gun in the building everyone started running all different ways," said Clay Murdock, a student at Faith City Mission. Murdock said he tried to get as many people inside their sound room as possible. "We're standing in there and everyone starts praying," said Murdock. "I went outside to see what was going on if I could get more people in there and right when as I went outside the guy was standing right in front of me with the pistol." Murdock said he then ran outside. Amarillo Police said the initial came in around 8:54 a.m. and indicated there was an armed suspect inside who had 100 to 150 people held hostage in the chapel. Sergeant Brent Barbee said officers entered the building when they encountered an individual who had a handgun. "The officers fired shots that struck the man," said Barbee. "After some additional investigation, they've learned that the man that the gun may have taken the firearm away from the original suspect in the call. The man who originally had the gun has been taken into custody." That man taken into custody has been identified as 35-year-old Joshua Jones, who is an apparent regular at Faith City. "He comes in here all the time, every day," said Murdock. "He sleeps right over there in that alleyway. He seemed like a nice enough guy." Faith City Mission Outreach Director Raymond Gonzales echoed that statement, saying he's never noticed any odd behavior. "Just yesterday I shook his hand and asked him how he was doing," said Gonzales. "He said 'I'm doing great.' It was a great day." While Faith City Mission will be closed pending the investigation, they are confident that all trust will be restored.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/16/18 9:17:35 PM #2:	Fuckin hell... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896228841] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Fuckin hell...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 02/16/18 9:20:55 PM #3:	... --- Hey what's going on in this thread http://i.imgur.com/6fpKRW8.gif http://i.imgur.com/RNZi0gk.gif <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:896228991] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_wwKd_ 02/16/18 9:22:00 PM #4:	Wait. They shot the hero? --- Yeezy Season Fast Approaching. What Would Kobe Do? LoL GT:YeezusWest <cite>_wwKd_ posted [p:896229035] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Wait. They shot the hero?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 02/16/18 9:22:52 PM #5:	SM FUCKING head --- Bangers https://open.spotify.com/user/1226504071/playlist/3X4SSY5tgxTTgdwlkmoH9F <cite>MrK3V posted [p:896229085] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>SM FUCKING head</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/16/18 9:25:00 PM #6:	_wwKd_ posted... Wait. They shot the hero? When police arrive to a scene after being called about a gun attack, they don't magically know who the "hero" or "villain" is. They saw the student holding the gun and made an assessment I can't blame them for. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896229200] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>_wwKd_ posted...</cite> <quote>Wait. They shot the hero?</quote> When police arrive to a scene after being called about a gun attack, they don't magically know who the "hero" or "villain" is. They saw the student holding the gun and made an assessment I can't blame them for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 02/16/18 9:25:53 PM #7:	Tmaster148 posted... _wwKd_ posted... Wait. They shot the hero? When police arrive to a scene after being called about a gun attack, they don't magically know who the "hero" or "villain" is. They saw the student holding the gun and made an assessment I can't blame them for. "hey lets shoot the first person we see with a gun" --- Bangers https://open.spotify.com/user/1226504071/playlist/3X4SSY5tgxTTgdwlkmoH9F <cite>MrK3V posted [p:896229237] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_wwKd_ posted...</cite> <quote>Wait. They shot the hero?</quote> When police arrive to a scene after being called about a gun attack, they don't magically know who the "hero" or "villain" is. They saw the student holding the gun and made an assessment I can't blame them for.</quote> "hey lets shoot the first person we see with a gun"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/16/18 9:26:36 PM #8:	MrK3V posted... Tmaster148 posted... _wwKd_ posted... Wait. They shot the hero? When police arrive to a scene after being called about a gun attack, they don't magically know who the "hero" or "villain" is. They saw the student holding the gun and made an assessment I can't blame them for. "hey lets shoot the first person we see with a gun" For a call about a gunman holding hostages in a church. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896229277] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrK3V posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_wwKd_ posted...</cite> <quote>Wait. They shot the hero?</quote> When police arrive to a scene after being called about a gun attack, they don't magically know who the "hero" or "villain" is. They saw the student holding the gun and made an assessment I can't blame them for.</quote> "hey lets shoot the first person we see with a gun"</quote> For a call about a gunman holding hostages in a church.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
frozenshock 02/16/18 9:26:45 PM #9:	MrK3V posted... "hey lets shoot the first person we see" FTFY --- I don't hate people, people hate me. <cite>frozenshock posted [p:896229282] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrK3V posted...</cite> <quote>"hey lets shoot the first person we see"</quote> FTFY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 02/16/18 9:27:05 PM #10:	frozenshock posted... MrK3V posted... "hey lets shoot the first person we see" FTFY So true. --- Bangers https://open.spotify.com/user/1226504071/playlist/3X4SSY5tgxTTgdwlkmoH9F <cite>MrK3V posted [p:896229293] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>frozenshock posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MrK3V posted...</cite> <quote>"hey lets shoot the first person we see"</quote> FTFY</quote> So true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlkPopeIseem 02/16/18 9:27:19 PM #11:	This article is poorly written. Fucking headache reading it. <cite>BlkPopeIseem posted [p:896229302] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>This article is poorly written. Fucking headache reading it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnragedSlith 02/16/18 9:28:25 PM #12:	At least he survived. Hopefully he gets a good settlement out of it. --- ultimate milf hunter https://i.imgur.com/lCEdce6.gifv https://i.imgur.com/2N1Ezia.gifv https://i.imgur.com/ukJ6sPJ.jpg https://youtu.be/IDYaHvDiTr4 <cite>EnragedSlith posted [p:896229356] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>At least he survived. Hopefully he gets a good settlement out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/16/18 9:29:14 PM #13:	BlkPopeIseem posted... This article is poorly written. Fucking headache reading it. Yeah, it kinda dances around what actually happened here; the actual shooting is only described in a quote from the police. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:896229406] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>BlkPopeIseem posted...</cite> <quote>This article is poorly written. Fucking headache reading it.</quote> Yeah, it kinda dances around what actually happened here; the actual shooting is only described in a quote from the police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 02/16/18 9:30:49 PM #14:	But I thought cops were well trained and don't get enough credit according to some users here. --- http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:896229501] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>But I thought cops were well trained and don't get enough credit according to some users here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 02/16/18 9:33:31 PM #15:	Inb4 this wouldn't have happened if everyone had a gun. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:896229634] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Inb4 this wouldn't have happened if everyone had a gun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 02/16/18 9:34:19 PM #16:	acab --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:896229685] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>acab</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 02/16/18 9:35:13 PM #17:	No wonder why we never hear about all those heroes with guns that constantly run around save the day; the police keep on shooting them. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:896229718] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>No wonder why we never hear about all those heroes with guns that constantly run around save the day; the police keep on shooting them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 02/16/18 9:36:23 PM #18:	You cant blame the police because its confusing --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:896229789] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>You cant blame the police because its confusing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/16/18 9:37:55 PM #19:	I think if the guy who took the gun can stop himself from shooting the people that are surely going to shoot him, the cops can give the guy not pointing a gun at them the chance to put it down. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:896229865] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>I think if the guy who took the gun can stop himself from shooting the people that are surely going to shoot him, the cops can give the guy not pointing a gun at them the chance to put it down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/16/18 9:39:48 PM #20:	lderivedx posted... I think if the guy who took the gun can stop himself from shooting the people that are surely going to shoot him, the cops can give the guy not pointing a gun at them the chance to put it down. I mean, the cops were called for a hostage situation involving hundreds of people. It's probably far safer if you have a clear shot to take it then to risk the lives on 100 hostages. Like I have a issues with some of the stuff cops do, but I really don't see how you can blame the cops in this situation. They aren't psychics. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896229954] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>I think if the guy who took the gun can stop himself from shooting the people that are surely going to shoot him, the cops can give the guy not pointing a gun at them the chance to put it down.</quote> I mean, the cops were called for a hostage situation involving hundreds of people. It's probably far safer if you have a clear shot to take it then to risk the lives on 100 hostages. Like I have a issues with some of the stuff cops do, but I really don't see how you can blame the cops in this situation. They aren't psychics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/16/18 9:42:26 PM #21:	They're already risking the lives by even going in without trying to talk him down or (clearly) having no idea what's going on inside. That's just bullshit justifying trigger-happy cops. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:896230068] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>They're already risking the lives by even going in without trying to talk him down or (clearly) having no idea what's going on inside. That's just bullshit justifying trigger-happy cops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/16/18 9:57:49 PM #22:	lderivedx posted... They're already risking the lives by even going in without trying to talk him down or (clearly) having no idea what's going on inside. That's just bullshit justifying trigger-happy cops. Yea I understand the situation was reported to them as a hostage situation and they had no idea who the guy with the gun was but I highly doubt he pointed it at them. Their first and only reaction is to run in and immediately shoot? I dont think thats how hostage situations are supposed to be handheld to begin with... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896230801] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>lderivedx posted...</cite> <quote>They're already risking the lives by even going in without trying to talk him down or (clearly) having no idea what's going on inside. That's just bullshit justifying trigger-happy cops.</quote> Yea I understand the situation was reported to them as a hostage situation and they had no idea who the guy with the gun was but I highly doubt he pointed it at them. Their first and only reaction is to run in and immediately shoot? I dont think thats how hostage situations are supposed to be handheld to begin with...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 02/16/18 10:04:02 PM #23:	there was also a story recently about about a ccw holder who stopped a robbery. cops got there and thought he was the robber and shot him...after he complied and put his gun down. everyone in the store were yelling at the police to stop shooting him. --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:896231081] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>there was also a story recently about about a ccw holder who stopped a robbery. cops got there and thought he was the robber and shot him...after he complied and put his gun down. everyone in the store were yelling at the police to stop shooting him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eevee-Trainer 02/16/18 10:06:33 PM #24:	MrK3V posted... SM FUCKING head --- See me on Discord! ^.^ Eevee's Mystery Dungeon: https://discord.gg/V7hzcXd <cite>Eevee-Trainer posted [p:896231207] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>MrK3V posted...</cite> <quote>SM FUCKING head</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 02/16/18 10:07:57 PM #25:	Are people really blaming the cops on this one lmao fucking hell --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2fg0NcD.gif https://i.imgur.com/siUXDqo.png <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:896231271] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Are people really blaming the cops on this one lmao fucking hell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 02/16/18 10:09:38 PM #26:	This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!" --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:896231354] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 02/16/18 10:11:17 PM #27:	Dark_Spiret posted... there was also a story recently about about a ccw holder who stopped a robbery. cops got there and thought he was the robber and shot him...after he complied and put his gun down. everyone in the store were yelling at the police to stop shooting him. Damn, thats interesting. Got a link or more details? I gotta read that. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:896231433] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dark_Spiret posted...</cite> <quote>there was also a story recently about about a ccw holder who stopped a robbery. cops got there and thought he was the robber and shot him...after he complied and put his gun down. everyone in the store were yelling at the police to stop shooting him.</quote> Damn, thats interesting. Got a link or more details? I gotta read that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 02/16/18 10:24:16 PM #29:	Whoops --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:896232054] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Whoops</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 02/16/18 10:28:31 PM #30:	averagejoel posted... acab Came to say this --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:896232242] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>acab</quote> Came to say this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 02/16/18 10:32:50 PM #31:	And this is why churches are forming their own security squads. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:896232448] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>And this is why churches are forming their own security squads.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 02/16/18 10:33:33 PM #32:	I wonder how he was holding the gun, but regardless I'm glad he survived. It would be really bad if he did not --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:896232476] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>I wonder how he was holding the gun, but regardless I'm glad he survived. It would be really bad if he did not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 02/16/18 10:35:17 PM #33:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Damn, thats interesting. Got a link or more details? I gotta read that. http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article198292994.html --- Currently playing: Forza Horizon 3 - Dead Rising - Hitman <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:896232557] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Damn, thats interesting. Got a link or more details? I gotta read that.</quote>http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article198292994.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 02/16/18 10:37:58 PM #34:	This has to be on the cops. I usually defend them, but how did you not ask him to stop or freeze or get down or....well, anything? God knows he would have complied. I can't see any situation where this is anything other than they came in and just fired when they saw the gun. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:896232669] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>This has to be on the cops. I usually defend them, but how did you not ask him to stop or freeze or get down or....well, anything? God knows he would have complied. I can't see any situation where this is anything other than they came in and just fired when they saw the gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 02/16/18 10:42:25 PM #35:	r4X0r posted... This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!" Terrible post <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:896232890] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!"</quote> Terrible post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 02/16/18 10:43:39 PM #36:	_MorningStar posted... just fired when they saw the gun. Basically what it comes down to. They're little more than trained animals reacting to a stimulus If you really have to play Hero, don't let the police see you with a gun at any point. <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:896232935] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote>just fired when they saw the gun.</quote> Basically what it comes down to. They're little more than trained animals reacting to a stimulus If you really have to play Hero, don't let the police see you with a gun at any point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 02/16/18 10:46:42 PM #37:	scorpion41 posted... And this is why churches are forming their own security squads. Not really, that's usually more related to the same reason why most of salt lake city is under LDS control. To enforce their own laws. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:896233074] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>And this is why churches are forming their own security squads.</quote> Not really, that's usually more related to the same reason why most of salt lake city is under LDS control. To enforce their own laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alexanaxela 02/16/18 10:59:41 PM #38:	i thought texans brought guns to church --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. <cite>Alexanaxela posted [p:896233690] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>i thought texans brought guns to church</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 02/16/18 11:07:20 PM #39:	Imagine the outrage if the student was black. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:896233978] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Imagine the outrage if the student was black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duwstai 02/16/18 11:10:13 PM #40:	I would probably immediately discharge the mag and round in the chamber and Chuck that thing as far as possible.... After I subdued the guy anyway. No way I'd trust trigger happy cops to not shoot me in a situation like that. They are probably scared and all amped up and have no idea who the suspect is. --- balls <cite>Duwstai posted [p:896234088] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>I would probably immediately discharge the mag and round in the chamber and Chuck that thing as far as possible.... After I subdued the guy anyway. No way I'd trust trigger happy cops to not shoot me in a situation like that. They are probably scared and all amped up and have no idea who the suspect is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mister_Spyker 02/16/18 11:12:26 PM #41:	Duwstai posted... I would probably immediately discharge the mag and round in the chamber and Chuck that thing as far as possible.... After I subdued the guy anyway. No way I'd trust trigger happy cops to not shoot me in a situation like that. They are probably scared and all amped up and have no idea who the suspect is. that would leave you vulnerable to the shooter. --- Dear lord, Spyker just ripped his entire life apart in nothing more than a few paragraphs. Ouch... - RexSilver <cite>Mister_Spyker posted [p:896234177] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>Duwstai posted...</cite> <quote>I would probably immediately discharge the mag and round in the chamber and Chuck that thing as far as possible.... After I subdued the guy anyway. No way I'd trust trigger happy cops to not shoot me in a situation like that. They are probably scared and all amped up and have no idea who the suspect is.</quote> that would leave you vulnerable to the shooter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain 02/16/18 11:13:04 PM #42:	Something like this happened in a city I used to work in. Also kinda proves that concealed carry can be risky in situations like this. --- http://i.imgur.com/ZWNgMXL.jpg Formerly known as Will VIIII <cite>Villain posted [p:896234208] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Something like this happened in a city I used to work in. Also kinda proves that concealed carry can be risky in situations like this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 02/16/18 11:15:28 PM #43:	r4X0r posted... This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!" No one is going to argue with your stupid straw man argument. People just think there is room for improvement in law enforcement behavior beyond just shooting a person with a gun immediately. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:896234318] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!"</quote> No one is going to argue with your stupid straw man argument. People just think there is room for improvement in law enforcement behavior beyond just shooting a person with a gun immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duwstai 02/16/18 11:15:46 PM #44:	Mister_Spyker posted... Duwstai posted... I would probably immediately discharge the mag and round in the chamber and Chuck that thing as far as possible.... After I subdued the guy anyway. No way I'd trust trigger happy cops to not shoot me in a situation like that. They are probably scared and all amped up and have no idea who the suspect is. that would leave you vulnerable to the shooter. The second I got the gun id probably shoot him tbh. Fatally or otherwise. I wouldn't take any chances. Hypothetically anyway. Im not saying I could actually do any of these things if I was in that position, I have no idea how I would react. But if I got far enough to take his gun that's what I would do Kid has massive balls to disarm that guy. --- balls <cite>Duwstai posted [p:896234337] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Duwstai posted...</cite> <quote>I would probably immediately discharge the mag and round in the chamber and Chuck that thing as far as possible.... After I subdued the guy anyway. No way I'd trust trigger happy cops to not shoot me in a situation like that. They are probably scared and all amped up and have no idea who the suspect is.</quote> that would leave you vulnerable to the shooter.</quote> The second I got the gun id probably shoot him tbh. Fatally or otherwise. I wouldn't take any chances. Hypothetically anyway. Im not saying I could actually do any of these things if I was in that position, I have no idea how I would react. But if I got far enough to take his gun that's what I would do Kid has massive balls to disarm that guy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 02/16/18 11:21:34 PM #45:	Mister_Spyker posted... Imagine the outrage if the student was black. There's some mild outrage because the police shot the hero --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:896234594] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mister_Spyker posted...</cite> <quote>Imagine the outrage if the student was black.</quote> There's some mild outrage because the police shot the hero</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 02/16/18 11:24:15 PM #46:	And that is why I think it is stupid as hell for people to have guns. People pulling out their guns in a situation like this causes this to happen. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:896234705] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>And that is why I think it is stupid as hell for people to have guns. People pulling out their guns in a situation like this causes this to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_wwKd_ 02/16/18 11:27:34 PM #47:	I mean. If you disarm the dude. Tell someone to take the gun away and separate it from the scene. --- Yeezy Season Fast Approaching. What Would Kobe Do? LoL GT:YeezusWest <cite>_wwKd_ posted [p:896234857] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>I mean. If you disarm the dude. Tell someone to take the gun away and separate it from the scene.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 02/16/18 11:28:30 PM #48:	TommyG663513 posted... r4X0r posted... This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!" No one is going to argue with your stupid straw man argument. People just think there is room for improvement in law enforcement behavior beyond just shooting a person with a gun immediately. plus it was a HOSTAGE situation...they went in with that in mind. they had no idea the gunman had been disarmed....they thought the guy who saved everyone was the gun man....in what scenario is the proper response to a hostage situation to immediately run in, guns drawn and shoot the individual you think is the gunman? that sounds like a terrible idea... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:896234884] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>TommyG663513 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>This is one of those situations that's just shitty all around. When the police respond to a call if a person with a gun holding hostages, they can't say "Hey, throw your ID over here so we know if you're the bad guy or not!"</quote> No one is going to argue with your stupid straw man argument. People just think there is room for improvement in law enforcement behavior beyond just shooting a person with a gun immediately.</quote> plus it was a HOSTAGE situation...they went in with that in mind. they had no idea the gunman had been disarmed....they thought the guy who saved everyone was the gun man....in what scenario is the proper response to a hostage situation to immediately run in, guns drawn and shoot the individual you think is the gunman? that sounds like a terrible idea...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 02/17/18 12:34:48 AM #49:	What if it was a set up with the original shooter so they could sue the cops exactly for this purpose --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:896237620] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>What if it was a set up with the original shooter so they could sue the cops exactly for this purpose </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 02/17/18 12:43:37 AM #50:	Police watch the news too. They see the same innocent verdicts the rest of us do. They KNOW they will be found innocent. <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:896237927] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote>Police watch the news too. They see the same innocent verdicts the rest of us do. They KNOW they will be found innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGrindery 02/17/18 12:46:12 AM #51:	_wwKd_ posted... I mean. If you disarm the dude. Tell someone to take the gun away and separate it from the scene. If he's bigger than you, having a gun helps you have leverage. If I'm half your size and I manage to get your gun and throw it... What reason would you have NOT to beat my ass? <cite>TheGrindery posted [p:896238027] in Gunman hel... [t:76327254]...</cite> <quote><cite>_wwKd_ posted...</cite> <quote>I mean. If you disarm the dude. Tell someone to take the gun away and separate it from the scene.</quote> If he's bigger than you, having a gun helps you have leverage. If I'm half your size and I manage to get your gun and throw it... What reason would you have NOT to beat my ass?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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