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| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 7:18:46 PM #133 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...It's relevant to your point because it's arguably not the case that there's a meaningful subset of the population that is working a full-time job and unable to afford food or a place to sleep in at night due to their employer shafting them. you're blaming people for having a nice car, rather than employers for not paying a living wage, or (as was mentioned above) landlords for charging way too much --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 7:08:54 PM #130 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...It's relevant to your point because it's arguably not the case that there's a meaningful subset of the population that is working a full-time job and unable to afford food or a place to sleep in at night due to their employer shafting them. see, this is why I compared you to a caricature. you insist on deflecting to "poor people shouldn't get to enjoy things" instead of addressing the actual issue --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 6:53:47 PM #122 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...It's relevant to your point because it's arguably not the case that there's a meaningful subset of the population that is working a full-time job and unable to afford food or a place to sleep in at night due to their employer shafting them. there is, factually, a meaningful subset of the population that is working a full-time job and unable to afford food or a place to sleep in at night due to their employer shafting them. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 6:48:15 PM #118 | FLUFFYGERM posted... It's relevant to your point because it's arguably not the case that there's a meaningful subset of the population that is working a full-time job and unable to afford food or a place to sleep in at night due to their employer shafting them. if you want to go that route, then you might as well go full on chemtrails and flat-Earth conspiracies, because they're every bit as arguable as your idea. it's still wrong. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 6:38:52 PM #110 | FLUFFYGERM posted... And I responded to that with data that shows that it's not so simple. When 107 million working Americans (which is the majority of working Americans) are financing cars to the tune of an average $479 per month...you don't have an income / housing / food problem. You have a spending problem, because people in America have abandoned personal responsibility and are instead complaining about corporate America. your response was completely irrelevant to my point, so a rebuttal would be meaningless. "whoosh" is just as effective --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 6:22:03 PM #107 | FLUFFYGERM posted... A lot of things you said, particularly around violence, set off a lot of alarm bells for me. I dunno, you haven't given me any reason to trust your summaries/generalizations of what your opposition said/believes. read it for yourself (emphasis mine): Esrac posted... Seems closer to suggesting everyone should have equal access to these luxuries without having to consider the financial sense of purchasing these luxuries. And employers who don't pay even their lowest employees enough to afford them should be maimed or killed. the only thing I've said that's related to that was: if one of your employees, for one month, is unable to afford a roof over their head and food in their belly, you lose an eye. therefore, it is reasonable to believe that Esrac believes "a roof" and "food" to be luxuries that not everyone should have access to. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | is there anyone more pathetic than Maddox? |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 6:00:51 PM #5 | Angelina Jolie's son is an internet celebrity? --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 5:59:55 PM #105 | FLUFFYGERM posted... I went from being very religious to not being religious. That journey required a lot of deep and painful introspection, and admitting that I was wrong about a lot of things. I have many defects, but being "out of touch" on this stuff is not one of them. I'm more than able and willing to admit when I'm wrong about something. This topic and the other topic are not areas where I'm wrong, based on all the evidence I've looked at and provided. If I was wrong I'd admit it and adopt a different position. the only people agreeing with you here think that "a roof over your head and food in your belly" is a luxury. is that setting off an alarm bell for you? because it should be --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 5:19:35 PM #101 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Being pro communism is not showing any empathy at all. an inability to defend one's worldview is independent of being out of touch --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 4:48:15 PM #99 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Being pro communism is not showing any empathy at all. my only real point in this topic so far has been that you're out of touch, which is self-evident to anyone who can read your posts --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 4:30:35 PM #95 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Being pro communism is not showing any empathy at all. why do you think I've been quoting you with that gif of Lucille Bluth showing how out of touch she is? --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | "Exercise will fix your depression!" |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 4:09:54 PM #8 | it obviously doesn't fix it completely, but it can really help in the short-term --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 9:48:56 AM #91 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Being pro communism is not showing any empathy at all. if that were true, you would be so far gone into the negatives that you wouldn't even be visible from zero. you're acting like sitcom characters that are supposed to be caricatures of insensitive, unempathetic people --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:28:51 AM #79 | flussence posted... I love it when they go out of their way to sandbag respond every other post in the topic but the one destroying their arguments across multiple topics Poe's Law is broken --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:26:50 AM #74 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...flussence posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...And the point I made earlier is that your narrative is incomplete *Jim Halpert stares at the camera* --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:24:42 AM #70 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Millennials posted...Capitalism will be the downfall of us all. you are. as i said in the post you quoted --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:23:09 AM #67 | flussence posted... FLUFFYGERM posted...And the point I made earlier is that your narrative is incomplete because that would involve admitting a mistake, which requires some self awareness --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:19:25 AM #64 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Millennials posted...Capitalism will be the downfall of us all. you're cartoonishly out of touch --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:16:23 AM #59 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...Esrac posted...Seems closer to suggesting everyone should have equal access to these luxuries without having to consider the financial sense of purchasing these luxuries. And employees who don't pay even their lowest employees enough to afford them should be maimed or killed.  --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:09:50 AM #51 | Esrac posted... Seems closer to suggesting everyone should have equal access to these luxuries without having to consider the financial sense of purchasing these luxuries. And employees who don't pay even their lowest employees enough to afford them should be maimed or killed. itp: a roof over your head and food in your belly is a luxury --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 2:02:04 AM #45 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...averagejoel posted...you're spectacularly missing the point here. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | When you're waiting for the waiter, doesn't that make you the waiter? |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:54:57 AM #8 | WHY do we DRIVE on a PARKWAY but I POOP in a URINAL --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:53:33 AM #38 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...you're spectacularly missing the point here. "millennials: stop buying avocado toast if you want to afford a home" --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:49:31 AM #34 | Lorenzo_2003 posted... averagejoel posted...I propose a consequence for employers: if one of your employees, for one month, is unable to afford a roof over their head and food in their belly, you lose an eye. the idea is to create an actual tangible consequence for employers who don't properly compensate their workers. I'm certainly open to other options --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:47:07 AM #31 | FLUFFYGERM posted... That's not the point. You don't need to finance an expensive vehicle in order to have fun or to enjoy life. If you make these big purchases too soon, you stunt your financial growth. Saving money and investing early is better. You can enjoy a nice car later when it's a blessing. you're spectacularly missing the point here. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Can someone recommend me some comedies on Netflix or Hulu. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:41:59 AM #13 | BoJack Horseman is the best current comedy show, bar none --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:37:53 AM #25 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...Paper_Okami posted...Questionmarktarius posted... ah, yes. the classic "stop doing anything fun or enjoyable and in 2 years you can have a savings account with $600 in it". thank you sir. you've changed my life --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:29:25 AM #20 | solosnake posted... What can change the nature of a man? changing that man's environment --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:28:41 AM #19 | Sativa_Rose posted... The profit motive created almost everything you own  --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Sometimes I think profit is intrinsically evil. |
| averagejoel 02/04/18 1:26:04 AM #14 | Paper_Okami posted... Questionmarktarius posted... yeah "I am able to eat for the next two weeks as long as I don't miss a day of work and spend money on nothing else" is a pretty fucking low bar. someone who lives like that is not "gaining" much from an exchange I propose a consequence for employers: if one of your employees, for one month, is unable to afford a roof over their head and food in their belly, you lose an eye. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | (Serious) Can you dislike cops even if you never personally had a bad experience |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 7:29:19 PM #22 | darkprince45 posted... TheVipaGTS posted...You can be critical of anyone without having direct interactions with them. Some cops do bad things and we can see that the system is set up horribly to deter those bad things from happening. Ill never understand why demanding better of an organization that is far from perfect is such a bad thing. cops aren't bad because of the actions of a few. they're bad because they're cops. the issue is not the individual cops, but the job itself. as part of their contract, cops agree to enforce all laws, including those that are unjust and cruel. there are good people, and there are cops who are otherwise good people, but there are no good cops. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Young US Jews Write 700 Letters of Solidarity to Ahed Tamimi |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 2:47:22 PM #1 | More than 700 Jewish young people from the U.S. wrote letters of solidarity to Ahed Tamimi, the iconic Palestinian 17-year-old who was arrested by Israeli authorities last month and charged with 12 counts including assaulting an occupation soldier and stone throwing after a video of her slapping a soldier at her homes yard went viral. https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Young-US-Jews-Write-700-Letters-of-Solidarity-to-Ahed-Tamimi-20180203-0004.html --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Do you have an autism spectrum disorder? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 2:07:17 PM #11 | the question in the topic title and the question in the poll are different --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is it ethical to cure people who aren't neurotypical? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 2:00:43 PM #139 | COVxy posted... I have, thus far, found a single study on a shady journal which used pretty uncontrolled methodology. I've said this several times throughout the topic, but you should read Neurotribes. Steve Silberman covers the history around this much better than I can. you're pretty clearly not listening to me, so I'm not interested in continuing this conversation any further. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is it ethical to cure people who aren't neurotypical? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 12:34:59 PM #135 | foreveraIone posted... averagejoel posted...why are you so hung up on this idea? you're usually a pretty reasonable poster I googled "aoc" and found like 6 different meanings for the acronym, so you're gonna have to be more specific here --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is it ethical to cure people who aren't neurotypical? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 12:33:36 PM #134 | COVxy posted... averagejoel posted...why are you so hung up on this idea? you're usually a pretty reasonable poster honestly I'd be at least semi-satisfied with results that didn't include PTSD among them --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is it ethical to cure people who aren't neurotypical? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 12:00:49 PM #131 | COVxy posted... So you'd say that communication, IQ, being able to do every day tasks like brush your teeth or communicate that you're hungry, these are just yardsticks that neurotypical people value? Not at all important for those with autism? why are you so hung up on this idea? you're usually a pretty reasonable poster --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is it ethical to cure people who aren't neurotypical? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 11:52:44 AM #129 | COVxy posted... You think that IQ, language, and adaptive behavior are just neurotypical things? ABA bases its "evidence" on the idea that autism is a behavioral problem. it isn't. ABA reinforces behaviour based on how it appears outwardly to neurotypical people, not on whether or not it's actually adaptive. it forces kids to do things all day every day that will never feel natural to them, and in most cases make them very uncomfortable. it's using itself as its own measuring stick - it's based on neurotypical people measuring "success" as suppressed autistic behaviours and more "normal" "functional" (read: neurotypical) behaviours. success should be measured by focusing on the autistic person's happiness and self-worth, rather than how well they can pass as neurotypical. Not according to the data. ABA produces reliable benefits, while the research on TEACCH is mixed at best. "benefits" yes, PTSD. great benefit there. I'll gladly take mixed research over that. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Which of the four major sports takes the least amount of skill to play? |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 9:53:08 AM #12 | Ilishe posted... You legit didn't mention the most popular sport in the world. football is the most popular sport in the world --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Waluigi is an inversion of a reflection. |
| averagejoel 02/03/18 1:36:02 AM #28 | it's really fucking me up that you need both Wario and Luigi to derive Waluigi, but you don't actually need Mario --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Waluigi is an inversion of a reflection. |
| averagejoel 02/02/18 10:08:24 PM #24 | Ninja-Yatsu posted... Questionmarktarius posted...averagejoel posted...3khc posted...Waluigi is the worst character. They really need to flesh him out. I think a game where Waluigi causes mischief in other games - creating weird glitches and such - and then gets trapped in them and has to play through the mess he created to get out of it, would be really cool --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Waluigi is an inversion of a reflection. |
| averagejoel 02/02/18 9:42:58 PM #20 | 3khc posted... Waluigi is the worst character. They really need to flesh him out. could not disagree more with the first sentence. strongly agree with the second. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Waluigi is an inversion of a reflection. |
| averagejoel 02/02/18 9:29:28 PM #11 | it's pretty wild that this is the easiest-to-grasp example of hyper-reality. this thing explains in one paragraph what it took me months of reading and re-reading Baudrillard to understand --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | ITT: Harry Potter is a Jedi. |
| averagejoel 02/02/18 9:17:12 PM #14 | Bad_Mojo posted... FreshOverlord posted...Aren't Jedi basically space wizards that happen to be swordsmen? JK Rowling has explicitly said that a muggle with a gun would beat an ordinary wizard. Harry isn't a particularly great wizard, so this probably holds true for him too. Jedi... are much stronger than ordinary people with guns --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is gentrification a bad thing? |
| averagejoel 02/02/18 6:02:38 PM #25 | FLUFFYGERM posted... averagejoel posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...what is gentrification? definitions are important New York. Toronto. Vancouver. basically the entire state of California, but particularly San Francisco. --- peanut butter and dick |
| Topic | Is gentrification a bad thing? |
| averagejoel 02/02/18 5:54:29 PM #16 | FLUFFYGERM posted... what is gentrification? definitions are important a bunch of rich people moving into an area and driving up property value so the original inhabitants can no longer afford to live there --- peanut butter and dick |
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