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Zangulus posted...

Precisely what I thought of.
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DrCidd posted...

Maybe she did the patch test, but administered it improperly.

mrduckbear posted...

she followed the patch test as issued, she waited just 30 minutes rather than the recommended 48 hours

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Lokarin posted...

That's an undue leap; we have no information other than what the teacher/principal (or whoever) claims. No credible witnesses. There could have been legitimate abuse, or blackmail, or any number of things. It could even have been overstated as is and it was just a sit-in and that's all and he was just assmad. But I'm not gunna let y'alls underplay a suicide.

Presumably, the details of exactly what transpired will be investigated and considered in the lawsuit. There's no way any of us can know either way, but based on the information given, it absolutely sounds like suicide was a gross overreaction and he had preexisting mental health issues.
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Lokarin posted...

Someone was murdered for a thought crime (ya, I consider suicide murder...)

Harassment is not a thought crime, and while there's a solid case to be made for charging people with murder for driving somebody to suicide, that's reserved for cases like that chick who egged her boyfriend on when he was attempting suicide, not a principal who reasonably punishes a student. That he killed himself is evidence of pre-existing mental illness, not that the punishment here was unreasonably traumatic.
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LinkPizza posted...

Because it can always be a medical procedure.

And nobody's suggesting that medical circumcisions be stopped. That would be idiotic. This is entirely about the elective ones.

LinkPizza posted...

it takes away the chance of a medical problem later.

In which case, if circumcision is the only viable treatment for that medical problem, they just get circumcised then (except by then, they'll be old enough to agree to that themselves).

LinkPizza posted...

As I said, they technically do get to choose. But its literally in favor or uncircumcised.

And that could not possibly matter less. Once again: the end result doesn't matter. Only that they are given the choice. There is no right or wrong choice for them to make for themselves, so trending one way or another is not a bad thing. What's bad is taking away the choice entirely.

LinkPizza posted...

Fair as in a fair choice. Thats all.

In what sense does the choice need to be "fair"? Why do you think that concept has any value here?

Aculo posted...

ok bro, enjoy your balantis, hypospadias, phimosis and paraphimosis, ok?

when your wangus is in pain, inflamed and smelling awful, you can say it was all your choice, ok?

Hypospadia is a birth defect (where the urethra opens somewhere further down the shaft of the penis, rather than at the head, for the medically disinclined in the audience), not something you develop. It's also not unique to uncircumcised people (except in the sense that we're all born uncut), though it is sometimes treated by circumcision. You should probably actually try to understand what you're talking about, rather than just googling health problems that are more common in uncircumcised guys and pasting the names in here.

Furthermore, being uncircumcised is not a guarantee of developing any of those, much like having teeth doesn't guarantee that you'll develop oral health problems. The logic you're employing here is literally the same as saying that it's a good idea to surgically remove people's teeth at birth so they never get cavities and are less likely to develop gingivitis. Sure, it's an effective prevention tactic, but it's also stupid.
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Charocks posted...

A scummy lawyer was trolling youtube and saw neckbearded reviewers throwing tantrums over the game and is trying to make a buck.

Lemme tell you something; there is very little legal standing for this "case". You have a datacap? Not Betheda's problem. You encountering glitches in a game that they openly stated would have issues? Buyer's remorse isn't a valid reason. Any other shallow arguement? Not Bethesda's problem.

If you can't stand this "injustice"? Sell your electronics and your house, buy a cabin in the woods, and crawl into your safe space and sob to yourself.

In all honesty, the lawsuit probably won't succeed, you're right. A very important distinction needs to made here between "Bethesda will lose this lawsuit" and "Bethesda deserves to lose this lawsuit and/or face major backlash for this." The former ignores that US law tends to be very pro-corporation and Bethesda has done everything they can to avoid having to take legal responsibility for the quality of their product, which is just unrealistic. The latter is a statement based on the fact that Bethesda sold a rushed, barely-playable game and tried to fix it with a patch so large that many players won't be able to download it for another month (if ever), and are refusing to issue refunds to people who have a problem with that. That's not only realistic, but arguably the only reasonable response.

People are quick to dismiss these complaints as "you should have known better than to buy a Bethesda game at launch," but that attitude completely absolves Bethesda of any accountability for making the unplayable game in the first place. The unplayable state of Fallout 76 is entirely Bethesda's fault, and holding them accountable for that is not only perfectly reasonable, it should be considered a moral obligation for anyone that values quality control in games. They've been given a free pass on that front for far too long.
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Judgmenl posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Plus, no reason to ride a scooter in bad weather conditions.

I've rode a bicycle in a blizzard before. There is plenty of reason to ride a scooter in bad weather conditions.

It does, however, really suck (the worst was biking in ice pellets with a headwind). It can also be pretty dangerous (bike or scooter), given that you have no protection against any cars that may lose control due to the adverse conditions, and you yourself are significantly more likely to lose control (when it comes to maintaining traction, 4 wheels>>>>>>>>>2 wheels).
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LinkPizza posted...

adjl posted...

helIy posted...

it's really not Bethesdas issue if you're unable to get the patch to play your online-only game, though.

it's your job to understand your own internet limitations.

And it's their job to make a functional game, and accurately state the system requirements that will be needed to make it work.

You could probably expect the usage to be high if youre going to have to be online to play it anyway though, right. I mean, you wouldnt be able to cry about not playing the game because you ran out of data while playing the game, right? I feel your internet limitations are the players fault, tbh...

Which is why I added the edit about reasonable expectations. It is an online game. It's going to use some bandwidth just to play, and you're going to have to download patches. That's a given, and nobody can really complain about that. A 56 GB patch a week after the game launched, however, is a whole lot more than anyone can be expected to predict.
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http://blog.logicalincrements.com/

The main site there is handy for deciding on your parts to begin with, but most importantly, their blog highlights some of the best deals from this past weekend. You can sift through that to try and figure out what you might have been paying, and give you at least a rough ballpark of what hardware and prices to hope for moving forward.
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helIy posted...

it's really not Bethesdas issue if you're unable to get the patch to play your online-only game, though.

it's your job to understand your own internet limitations.

And it's their job to make a functional game, and accurately state the system requirements that will be needed to make it work. A 56 GB patch is well outside the realm of reasonable expectations for game patches, especially when there's virtually no advance notice given for it.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

If I remember correctly, patches correct errors, they are not additive.

If you have to download them separately, that's additive. The amount of space it takes up on the hard drive is largely irrelevant to that point, especially when we're talking about capped internet connections.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's assumed functional, not advertised as such, and a free repair was issued.

But it's not a free repair for anyone with a metered connection. Downloading that patch will cost many people their internet usage for the rest of the month. As they can't fix the problem in those cases, Bethesda can reasonably be expected to recall the dysfunctional product from those customers, which would include issuing a full refund.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Isn't it embarrassing to live in a country that makes you grovel for repairs and lets you throw cash down the drain to be told "the issue has been resolved"?

You know, you probably would have looked better if you just said "you're right, what I said was stupid," instead of saying a different, equally-stupid thing and trying to pretend the first never happened. Just sayin'.
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helIy posted...

adj, fallout 76 did not have a day 1 patch.

the people who had to re-download the entire game had to, because the beta client and the full release were treated as separate things, even though the beta version was just literally the full game. so everyone was all, "but I already have it just change the launcher". people buying it now are only downloading the patch released a week later.

That is slightly different, then. Still, expecting a refund if one is unable to get the patch that makes the game playable is pretty reasonable.
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You can keep an eye out for other sales through the year. Make note of the prices you had wanted to pay now and watch for similar prices.
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Judgmenl posted...

If I could reasonably get a license to operate a scooter without learning to drive a car (f***ing road laws in Massachusetts) I would. I am not learning how to drive a metal death trap ever.

That's stupid. Learning how to drive a car isn't going to hurt you, and it makes a lot of sense to have it as a prerequisite for operating any other motor vehicle (the same laws, plus it's good to be able to understand how cars are driven so you can understand their limitations and the challenges other drivers are facing (i.e. blind spots)). If you want to be able to drive a scooter and you need a general license first, go get your general license and stop your paranoid whining.
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Nade Duck posted...

at this point i think it's just tradition.

That. Originally, it was because Melee was super rushed and they happened to have similar enough body types to make it work. Since then, it's just been a matter of avoiding change, because fighting game fans get uppity when established characters see major changes.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's the intended requirements, and if it's not met, a recall should be made for a free fix. As it happens, the fix comes in the form of a patch so you don't have to send away your game.

And if that patch causes the game to exceed the advertised system requirements, it's perfectly reasonable to expect them to issue a refund to those who are no longer able to meet the updated requirements. Furthermore, this is a day 1 patch that is mandatory to make the game playable, not one that was issued later, so it should have been included in the system requirements from day 1, and nobody should have been able to download the game before that change was made.

Quite simply, if a game requires a 100 GB download to run, and the system requirements only say 50 GB, that's false advertising. The publisher is responsible for ensuring system requirements are accurate.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Suing a game company because you don't like their craftsmanship is bad because it's sad and embarrassing.

Penalizing a company for refusing to issue a refund on a dysfunctional product that they falsely advertised as working is the basic premise of any sort of consumer protection, whether it's in the form of formal laws or in the form of lawsuits and legal precedent. Acting smug because you're protected by European law while looking down on people who have no such laws and instead rely on lawsuits to accomplish exactly the same thing is pretty laughable.
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Generally, no. If I've got them on and I need to grab something quickly, I'll leave them on instead of taking the time to take them off and put them back on, but most of the time, I take my shoes off as soon as I come in.
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I feel like this didn't happen, but if it did, this guy sounds like a "my uncle works at Nintendo" sort of person.
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LinkPizza posted...

In my town, that amount of people would completely fill 6 buses, and about half of a 7th. If that many people were going in that direction at the time, you would definitely need a lot of buses for that. And I know where I live, it's only one bus per hour.

Yeah, that would have to change. Note that those people can come from any number of places, so that could actually be 6 or 7 routes that converged on that one road, but if everyone was taking the bus, there would indeed need to be a bus more often than once every hour.

LinkPizza posted...

Sometimes, people don't use public transport because of the times. Like they would either get somewhere too early or too late.

That's another issue that would be solved with more frequent buses. You're always going to get spikes in ridership for buses that arrive at ~10-15 minutes to the hour, since those are typically ideal for people to arrive and start work on the hour, but if you've got buses running every 10 minutes, those who can be a bit earlier or later have that option. I have also seen routes run two buses at once at particularly busy times (like when school lets out).

LinkPizza posted...

Then you have the people that need to travel farther. People who commute out of the state to work everyday. Most public transport would probably be for around the city first,

Again, that's an issue that would be solved by park and rides. People drive in, park at a terminal, and an express bus carries them directly into another terminal in the city, from which they can catch other buses (or bike or walk to their final destination, ideally, but there aren't going to be that many terminals for express buses).

LinkPizza posted...

I don't like having to rely on public transport, especially in the state that it's in now.

And that's fair. In many places, the current state sucks. There was an article a couple years ago saying that people in my hometown were being turned down for jobs because they would be commuting by bus, because it was just that unreliable. It works in some cities, but for others, it's dismal.
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It was good, but I'd say the first was better (though not "pales in comparison" better). It's at least worth $6 and two hours of your life.
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wwinterj25 posted...

For a person like myself it's rather pointless having my own for of transport.

Again, that's because you live somewhere that wasn't designed around having a car. European cities don't have the same degree of urban sprawl that most North American cities do because it's cars that enable that sprawl. New York is a notable exception because the islandy nature of Manhattan meant the city's core grew to be extremely dense, rather than sprawling. If everyone in Manhattan drove, nobody could ever get anywhere, so effective public transportation exists.

LinkPizza posted...

That depends on what kind of bus you have. The ones in my city hold 31. The newer ones hold 32-33. But those number are in only ambulatory people got on...

So long as there are more than 2-3 people on the bus, it's still going to be an improvement over having them all in their own cars. Here's a gif that illustrates just how inefficient cars are: https://imgur.com/gallery/sCvRIEd

That's more than a little idealized, since it assumes that every one of those drivers/passengers would be on the same bus/train, but the fact of the matter is that car traffic takes up an absolutely massive amount of space compared to the alternatives. So many more people could be moved around cities if public transit and active transportation options were made more viable, rather than continuing to rely on cars and develop cities accordingly.

LinkPizza posted...

The problem would most likely be getting people to want to do that. And the money to get it started. Especially everywhere...

Yeah, public transit falls prey to a vicious cycle: It sucks, so people don't use it, so the demand isn't there to justify further investment/provide capital, so it keeps sucking. It's one of those problems where the only way to solve it would be a massive, up-front investment to make a really good system in the hopes that people would use it. Of course, there's also the option of adopting a congestion charge like London does to discourage people from driving in areas where transit is a viable option, helping to offset that investment while also ensuring the investment will be more worthwhile, but that's not going to be an easy thing to get past the voter base.

Revelation34 posted...

Also the passes would be much more since they'd be able to get away with it.

Not necessarily. If the majority of a city's occupants rely on public transit, reducing the cost of transit passes is an absolutely fantastic platform for a mayoral candidate to run on. Provided the city has some control over that, rather than outsourcing it entirely to a private company that would only adjust prices if competition existed, prices could be kept reasonable.

Alternatively, contract two or more companies to do it so they end up competing with each other. Public transit isn't necessarily a natural monopoly, so provided appropriate anti-collusion measures are in place to prevent the sort of oligopoly situation we currently see with telecoms, it could work.

Revelation34 posted...

Also even if you use a system like that a s***load of bus stops are not even close to homes. You would still need a car to get there.

Realistically, a 5-minute walk to get to the nearest stop is a reasonable standard, especially if you've got a system with buses that show up frequently and reliably (so you don't need to be there 20 minutes early to ensure you'll catch one that won't show up again for half an hour +/- 20 minutes). When that isn't feasible, there's always the option of park-and-ride stops with express buses for suburbs.Those are an easy option that would make a huge difference without much investment, but for whatever reason aren't nearly common enough.
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AnnoyedCops posted...

Any interesting characters revealed?

To my knowledge, the only characters that haven't been revealed yet are the DLC ones that are still in development, which I wouldn't expect to be in the game files.
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Smiffwilm posted...

Question. How can you tell they have, compared to any other day?

My thoughts exactly. Smash boards tend to be pretty insane regardless of any particular occurrences, especially pre-release.

Solid Sonic posted...

That. Damn. Plant.

Is awesome and hilarious and I'm kind of enjoying the widespread butthurt.
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Solid Sonic posted...

Far-Queue posted...

Who cares about spoilers in a fighting game?

WHO CARES ABOUT SPOILERS IN AN ACE ATTORNEY GAME?!!

Given that they're extremely story-oriented games whose gameplay revolves almost entirely around figuring out where that story is going, I'd imagine most people.

That said, the "who cares about spoilers in a fighting game" thing does disregard the fact that many people prefer the surprise of encountering unlocks and the like while playing the game, rather than being told about them beforehand. It'd be unreasonable to expect people to mark spoilers for discussing official trailer material, especially in a discussion that's obviously about that (if somebody really wants to go in blind, it's their responsibility to avoid such discussions), but openly talking about something that's been datamined is potentially inconsiderate, depending on the nature of it (i.e. "this one music track sounds good" is not a spoiler, "the final boss of the story thing is a chicken made of lego" would be).
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Judgmenl posted...

Infrastructure should be set up so that 90% of people do not have a need to drive, and the other 10% are those who live in areas where they need to as a necessity.

You're never going to hit quite those numbers without moving almost everyone into cities, but that is the sort of thing we should be working toward. The individual automobile is a hideously inefficient mode of transportation in terms of space required and energy costs (and, by extension, pollution), to say nothing of the safety aspects. The fact that North America has been designed around it is a terrible mistake that's been hamstringing city planning ever since.

LinkPizza posted...

That would take a lot and be pretty hard... not to mention, people wouldnt like it much...

People have rather latched onto the propaganda from the oil and automotive industries, yes.

wwinterj25 posted...

Must be American thing.

it is. Where so many of Europe's cities predate the commercial availability of the automobile, pro-car attitudes aren't nearly as pervasive over there. Most of North America's growth has happened since then, though, which means cities have been designed around the car, and propaganda campaigns that tout car ownership as a prerequisite for independence managed to take root pretty easily.
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SilentSeph posted...

Suddenly I'm more excited for the soundtrack than the roster

After Brawl's soundtrack, that's nothing new for me. Finding out that they're turning that up to 11 for this time around was pretty exciting.
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Muscles posted...

They still would have made a huge profit,

Oh really? Do elaborate on how you figured that out, because from where I stand, doubling production costs to create a movie that would sell to fewer people doesn't sound like the best business move. Perhaps you have more in-depth numbers than me, though.

Muscles posted...

though not everything is about money, some things should just be about the art

You ever notice how it's almost always entitled consumers who say things like "you should just do this for art's sake and not worry about money!", and not actual artists that are trying to make a living? People love romanticising the "starving artist" trope, but in the decidedly-less-romantic real world, starving kinda sucks. Professional artists create art in the hopes of finding some degree of financial success, not because they feel the world deserves their art at no cost. You've done nothing to deserve that sacrifice. Don't act like you have.
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DrPrimemaster posted...

What if I owned the game when it was new? I should still be able to own it.

Making copies of what you own is fine. Distributing those copies is not. Expecting Nintendo to make those copies for you is not.

DrPrimemaster posted...

Or what if they want me to rebuy the game because the new system isnt compatible.

In that case, they're selling the compatibility with the new system.

Revelation34 posted...

Yeah I agree with this. If you can prove you own an original copy of something then you should get something like a digital version as long as it's just like Earthbound with no changes to the game.

Provided you supply it yourself, sure. Expecting Nintendo to provide you with a free ROM just because you bought the game once is, once again, hilariously entitled and unreasonable.

Revelation34 posted...

They're really only going after them because of the eShop.

They only sought to claim monetary damages once they started being able to make money off of the software that was being pirated again? Imagine that!
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I don't think I've ever not found canned pasta to be unpleasantly salty. As a result, I can't say I've tried enough to pick a favourite.
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The thing with superhero films is that, as successful and popular as they are, it's only a handful of studios doing them (and really only one that's widely agreed to be doing a good job). I'm not sure you can really call them a fad if you don't have more studios trying to jump on the bandwagon, even if the end products are popular.
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Muscles posted...

They should have at least put it in the extended editions

The extended editions were already very, very long. There'd be a handful of people who'd want movies with literally everything in there no matter how many days they had to set aside to watch them, but not enough to justify the added costs of the additional filming.
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Lokarin posted...

Judgmenl posted...

I absolutely adore wraps, and I will only eat certain things in wraps.

Ya, a wrap is basically the exact same food you could have in a bowl... only with MORE CARBS!

Though fewer carbs than there would be in a comparable sandwich, while being in an even more convenient package.
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Yes.
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To be fair, there's a difference between wanting a franchise to do something fresh when it's releasing basically the same game on an annual basis and wanting a franchise to completely change genres.
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ninja_lootz posted...

It's value does.

And why should that happen? Specifically to the extent Rev is insisting it should?

ninja_lootz posted...

That and a games quality can drop relative to newer, better games that release later.

It can indeed, and there are a good many games that haven't aged well enough to be worth paying much for. That's very much on a game-by-game basis, though. If he doesn't feel that Earthbound has aged well enough to be worth paying much for, he's perfectly entitled to that opinion, and could voice it.
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Monster.
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So... you didn't actually pass it?
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-Komaiko54- posted...

I meant I hit a car and drove away. I didn't know you're supposed to stay and leave information

RedPixel posted...

You probably shouldn't be on the road

-Komaiko54- posted...

Look fam, that test was two years ago and I got like a 68 on the test anyway so nothing in driver's ed actually matters.

I needed at least an 80 to pass the written test. The fact that you got through with a 68 is kind of alarming. Regardless, you really shouldn't be saying that nothing in driver's ed matters while unambiguously demonstrating that you needed to pay more attention in driver's ed and probably shouldn't be on the road until you're reeducated. Being in denial about your ignorance really isn't helping your case here.
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OhhhJa posted...

Mead posted...

Im sure no one in the right wing media will say anything disparaging regarding this

Yeah I'm sure the daily show or john Oliver wouldnt have any quips to make of it were trump either

Quips which would largely be based on the fact that boasting about his virility is a part of Trump's identity. The same cannot be said of Obama.
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EclairReturns posted...

adjl posted...

what you did there

You mean how he basically described Super Mario for the Nintendo 64.

Yes, that.
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I'm disappointed in myself for taking until point #3 to see what you did there. In my defense, I didn't actually finish reading point #1, which might have given it away much more so than #2 did.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

If we're on the subject of Sakurai, I want a new Kirby Air Ride too.

I don't think I'd ever play anything else if I could play City Trial online (with a decent playerbase, since I know the unofficial option exists).
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If your gums do bleed when you brush your teeth, you likely have some degree of gingivitis and should brush (gently) and floss more often until that subsides.
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Lokarin posted...

adjl posted...

Lokarin posted...

My bro was expecting Diablo 3 for Switch, to which I laughed

Uhh, that came out today.

ya, that's the joke

Oh, okay. I thought this was another MHGU moment.
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Lokarin posted...

My bro was expecting Diablo 3 for Switch, to which I laughed

Uhh, that came out today.
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BADoglick posted...

Not to mention that edibles don't come in individually wrapped fun size pieces. Like you get a plastic tube with them unwrapped in there. No kid is just going to grab an unwrapped gummy over a twix or a reeses.

Especially where preexisting paranoia about tainted halloween treats usually results in parents throwing out any unwrapped candy anyway, unless they know exactly where it came from.
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Blighboy posted...

Character history and context is an enormous part of why Smash is such a fun and successful game. That's why it gets so much attention.

And you aren't losing that by including somebody lower-profile. If the whole game's roster were replaced by generic enemies from various series? Yeah, the game would lose that identity and people wouldn't be interested. But including one - particularly one as iconic and recognizable as a Piranha Plant - in a roster of 77+ is not going to bring about such an apocalypse. Hence the series didn't die the day the first person unlocked Captain Falcon or Ness.

Blighboy posted...

I know you've expressed the opinion before the SSB would be just as good if all the characters were wireframes, and I hope you know very few people would agree with that.

It would be just as good. It would not, however, be as attractive. Novelty sells games, but then novelty wears off, and it's the fact that it's a good game that keeps people playing and coming back for more.

Revelation34 posted...

_AdjI_ posted...

So's the idea that a fun concept should be thrown out because the character it's attached to isn't "important" enough.

"Fun" concept.

It's a stupid-looking plant that hops around in a pot murdering people. That's awesome, and anyone who tries to tell me to stop enjoying it can go fellate a geoduck.
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TheSlinja posted...

Piranna plant WHO ASKED FOR THIS

That's the brilliance of it. There's always gotta be some sort of ridiculous joke character, and what could be more ridiculous than a ****ing plant. It's beautiful.

Blighboy posted...

I can't wait to preorder the rest of the DLC without knowing what it is.

To their credit, at least he explicitly said that you should only buy the season pass now if you're confident it'll be worth it. Most publishers don't have the balls to do that.
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Pretty much everyone I know who's seen Venom enjoyed it. Maybe it's actually a good movie, and your obsessive purism is keeping you from giving it a legitimate chance?

Lokarin posted...

xjayguyx posted...

As soon as I was like 14-15 I realized at least 50% of the world's population is dumb.

Think about how dumb the average person is, and realize that half the world is dumber than that ~George Carlin

The problem with that statement is that "average person" isn't a statistical measure, it's an anecdotal observation. "Everyday person" would be more accurate, and even then, your perception of "everyday person" is going to be heavily skewed by the standard suite of perceptual biases (most notably, you notice remarkably stupid people more often than unremarkable ones and therefore give them more weight in your overall perception). You can't really apply statistical concepts to a non-statistical measure.

DPsx7 posted...

You're learning this now? Stupid people have made us the minority. We have too many things in place keeping natural selection from doing its job.

Watching cynical misanthropes pretend to understand basic biology while acting intelligent never gets old.
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