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TopicThis booster is hitting me harder than usual, I think.
Zonbei
03/18/24 1:04:30 PM
#10
Naysaspace posted...
The ad hominem covid wars are still alive and well I see.

Telling someone actively displaying they dont understand vaccines that they dont understand vaccines isnt ad hominem. There was no actual point being made for me to ignore in favor of a personal attack. I responded directly to what was said. Thank you for displaying you dont understand what ad hominem means.

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TopicWhere do you guys think me and this girl stand?
Zonbei
03/18/24 1:02:49 PM
#310
ryudo500 posted...
@Zonbei sorry t hear about that can I ask how you got over it or no?

and thank you that makes a lot of sense

I havent fully got over it, its fairly recent, but Ive had my heart broken a lot. Its just time and acceptance, really, and understanding there are other people out there. Im also poly though, so my other partner was very supportive.

As for the anxious attachment stuff, you just need to understand that worrying about people leaving is more likely to make them leave than anything else. Overthinking isnt conducive to a good relationship. You want to learn to love the people that love you back. I dont chase people anymore; anyone Im with, Im with because theyve showed just as much interest as me from moment one, and they are clear about it. If people want to spend time with you, they will when they can. Sometimes they will have other things to do, and thats okay too.

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TopicWhere do you guys think me and this girl stand?
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:50:17 PM
#306
ryudo500 posted...
@Zonbei

thats actually a good one. Better than poring my feelings thru text or saying what I wanted

take the chill road that leaves it open

Yeah, very much the better way to go.

I am telling you this as someone who has done a lot of work to move from anxious attachment to earned secure attachment, and has wavered recently due to a difficult breakup with the woman I was going to marry. Dont send that paragraph. Dont act like shes done something wrong, she hasnt. Give her the option to reach out at her leisure, if she wants, and leave it at that. Then go see a therapist.

Being chill like this has two upsides. One, perhaps shell rethink, miss you, etc. she may not, and you shouldnt expect it. Move on, but you may be surprised later.

two: shes less likely to tell other women in your area that you arent a safe person to date. People talk to each other about these things.

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TopicWhere do you guys think me and this girl stand?
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:45:51 PM
#302
ryudo500 posted...
Im not even gonna respond I dont know what to sayv

I want to say damn x sweating emoji with laugh its like that and soemthing about hit me up whenever she wants or something or ask if it was the flowers or carepafkage or something

idk my brother says to never ever text back or to do the paragraph about feelings but he said its over the answer has been there for a week

If you really have to say anything at all, literally dont do the sweating thing, and just send Hope your week goes well too, hit me up if you want to go out again some time. Nothing else. That is your only potential path forward, and you have to accept that it probably wont work and just move on. If she wants to see you, shell reach out.

I read this all and you keep ignoring good advice and changing what people tell you to send and making it worse. Dont do that. just say the chill thing and move on. Do not send a paragraph about feelings.

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TopicWhere do you guys think me and this girl stand?
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:42:04 PM
#299
ryudo500 posted...
Lmao this is so fucked

She got back to me this morning and like my brother said earlier tis weekend it was done no matter what this is what she said

@projectpat72988

my text on Friday was hey x how are you? hope all is well, wanted to let you know Ive been thinking about you

Its not fucked, youre intensely neurotic and have some serious issues with relationships and women. Frankly shes probably being too nice about it. You are not ready for a relationship with anyone. You just arent. You need to do a lot of work on your very clear anxious attachment, how you interact with people, and also like writing.

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TopicThis booster is hitting me harder than usual, I think.
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:01:11 PM
#7
VirtuousWrath posted...
People are really still doing this?

Yes, because unlike you, they understand basic medicine like how vaccines and boosters work.

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TopicAre Republicans a party of white nationalists?
Zonbei
03/18/24 11:52:36 AM
#101
maxpkmf posted...
I never ignored anything. Im not being called out at all. Just responding to the topic. 10s of millions of minority republicans. We arent white nationalists. Sorry.

Yeah, as we all know, there were absolutely no minorities complicit in the Nazis actions.

At BEST, youre okay with belonging to a party full of white nationalists. Which youre going to conveniently fail to address, right? Here is your chance.

And dont just repeat yourself about moving goalposts. I just got here and Im solely commenting on what you are currently saying. My goalposts are right here, set up right now.

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TopicAre Republicans a party of white nationalists?
Zonbei
03/18/24 11:50:43 AM
#100
Just_a_loser posted...
Is their party made up of these? No. Not every Republican is the same. And they aren't all racist.

But, all of the white nationalist neo nazis are on their side, which makes their side look worse.

If they arent racist, they wouldnt be a Republican anymore. Because of all the Nazis.


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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/18/24 2:15:56 AM
#311
Gurifisu posted...
What I find shocking is it's not even for something noble. Like really, they're gonna spend this much time and effort glazing for some millionaire celebrity because... What? They really liked I Am Legend?

As opposed to the people glazing for Chris Rock, notable piece of shit? Lol. Do you think theres only one side of the arguement, or did you think no one was going to notice you slipping your support for the other side in there while pretending you arent participating?

I straight up dont care about Will Smith, I just dont like when people are loudly wrong about things, and I think assholes should face consequences for being assholes. So many people get away with being as shitty (and wrong!) as they want and its turned the world into a cesspool, especially online.

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TopicHow do you feel about Wookieepedia including pronouns in character bios?
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:39:11 AM
#36
Sub_Tank posted...
It's redundant and inefficient for 99% of the characters, which is unbecoming of a website with the goal of presenting data in a clear and concise way.

Feel free to list the pronouns for all the characters who don't identify with their gender, but no serious people are questioning what pronouns Darth Vader uses.

Seems pretty clear and concise to me.

Wikis are constantly redundant, my guy.


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TopicHow do you feel about Wookieepedia including pronouns in character bios?
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:36:22 AM
#32
Just_a_loser posted...
It is interesting how often people jump to conclusions and assume I was outraged, instead of just curious of hearing CE's thoughts on the matter.

Defensive much?

Your first sentence is literally a passive aggressive dig at it, saying it wasnt necessary. Dont pretend to be a fucking fool.

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TopicHow do you feel about Wookieepedia including pronouns in character bios?
Zonbei
03/18/24 12:34:31 AM
#31
Just_a_loser posted...
Because, ya know, genders are often so confusing in Star Wars, and such things were totally necessary additions.

Like here, the bio for Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1c769f68.jpg

Its a fucking wiki. Providing in depth information to an obsessive degree is literally why it exists. Why did you make this fucking topic? Did you also need to know their fucking eye color? Was that somehow less evident than their pronouns?

god you people are exhaustingly shitty.

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TopicWhy Kids Don't Go Outside Anymore
Zonbei
03/17/24 11:38:20 PM
#25
Xenogears15 posted...
Because our culture has transformed its perception of what a good parent is. Part of that is now that unsupervised play is seen as bad parenting. So it just doesn't happen anymore.

Sad, really. Us older Millenials were the last ones to play outside in the summer, unsupervised.

Along with us losing a lot of third spaces, this is just not healthy.

Plenty of parents let their kids out unsupervised still.
you seem to be assuming affluent suburbs parents are the only ones that exist.

the real issue is that 1: theres nowhere to play 2: it fucking sucks outside for a variety of reasons including stroads, pollution and climate change and 3: electronic entertainment is literally designed to be more fun, and it is.

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Topicugh, this thing with the girl I like at work, I over thought it and it backfired
Zonbei
03/17/24 11:36:12 PM
#9
SomeGuyUO posted...
So my coworker invited two of us guys to the bar yesterday for today. I didn't want anyone else going so I was like 3 of us is good, and he said I'm going to ask the front department (hers) if they want to go. I didn't want them to go and I was hoping he wouldn't ask and he didn't. Then I was like they're gonna find out we didn't invite them, so I then asked her myself if she wanted to go and she said just text me tomorrow and let me know when you're going. So now we just had to ask the rest of her team.

So today I asked my coworker if we should ask the front department and he was like if you want to and I was all . I shouldn't have asked her then. So I asked her team they're welcome to join and then I texted her where we're gonna be at. She responded back saying she couldn't make it and I was a little relieved. I texted back no worries. Then she responded back asking if we would be down to go with her and her friends out tomorrow and I was just like uggggggghhh. I said yes and I told her my coworkers said yes too. I would have rather been at home these days but I learned that if you say no to invites like this you don't get taken into consideration anymore.


One: dont date your coworkers.
two: dont date your fucking coworkers.
Three: you need to go to the hospital. Youre having a stroke. Or I am trying to read this.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 11:32:08 PM
#309
Scardude posted...
Both argued right through what I brought up. That Chris rock is also in the wrong for other reasons. The slap is considered assault. If he had a glove. I think it would be assault with battery.

That is not what battery means.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 11:29:55 PM
#307
UnfairRepresent posted...
Another post that has plenty of time to point out how busy he is, far too busy to answer the most basic 2 yes or no questions. Yet the post he did make takes roughly 238 times as long as it would have taken to answer the 2 most basic questions raised.

And of course, only busy the moment you're stumped.

It's extremely telling.

Meanwhile the other dude (the one who brags that he laughs at and mocks assault victims) has literally resorted to nothing but insults.

Sorry, I just got home, so I wasnt able to respond to your meltdown about me having a life earlier. Youll notice that it has been four and a half hours or so. In the future Ill put everything on hold so I can reply to every bit of your incoherent rambling.

It absolutely would have taken me longer to actually respond to your endless bullshit than it did to type either of those. (Or this!) Cool you can just make up three digit numbers though, thats cute. You made it through 1st grade, clearly! Proud of you bud.

As it literally doesnt matter what I say because youre going to claim victory regardless, and youve been a bratty dick about me being busy, and all the sane people keep saying not to bother with you, Im going to stop bothering, and you can fuck off instead.

wow you didnt respond to my endless circular bullshit literally forever while I ignore everything you say except what I think I can twist, this just proves that blah blah blah wank wank I win eat me

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 7:12:27 PM
#280
UnfairRepresent posted...
I guess you don't live on planet Earh then

In this case Chris Rock but you said you and "everyone" laughs at any assault victim who was slapped or had no broken bones/scars.

Then you're just literally wrong.
An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

But it's literally assault.

This isn't even like a sneaky obscure legal definition. it's literally the basic A1 plain definition of assault used by the entire English speaking population across multiple countries for centuries....

Ok. Can you define assault for us? Since the dictionary and the rest of the English speaking popualtion has it wrong?

Notice he only "has things to do" once he's been completely stumped.

But he has plenty of time to point out how busy he is. Roughly 238 times as long as it would have taken to answer the 2 most basic questions raised.

It's extremely telling.

Fucking lmao

Thank you for doing exactly what I said you would. Do you understand how time works? I was free until about 3:50 PM, so I had plenty of time to say plenty of things. Then I had to drive to my exes place to hang out. Now Im there waiting for her to go find sunscreen and her hat for our walk, which is why Im free for roughly two minutes and decided to check in here for a laugh while Im waiting. Its called leaving your house, try it sometime.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 6:46:13 PM
#259
UnfairRepresent posted...
Never ever go to a stand up comic.

Also seek help.

I've said the exact same thing the entire topic. You still haven't even answered my initial question

This is "yet you particpate in society" level...

Yes if mugger lunges at you with a knife you have the right to defend yourself.
if a stand up comic makes jokes you don't have the right to jump on a stage and assault them while screaming profanity.

..

I shouldn't even have to explain that, the fact you're pretending you don't understand the difference is embarrasing. I'm fairly sure a dog understands the difference.

Agreed.

No that's bullshit. First off "Actively insulting" is intellectual dishonesty. Secondly, it's a stand up comic making jokes at a show. Even Will Smith himself does not deny he was in the wrong.

Chris Rock did literally nothing wrong and you have 0 right to assault a comic for cracking jokes. That's fundamentalist religion level.

Jesus Christ George Carlin would have turned you into a blood frenzy.

Assault victims are assault victims.

Going "No, I'll laugh at assault victims if I don't think they were beaten enough" is madness.

Hell the fact you keep having to both lie and edit out almost all the meat of all my posts just to double down on insulting assault victims proves that you know how fucked up it is.

Slapping a phone out of someone's hand is assault.

You're just wrong and exetremely weird.

Lmao. If you dont answer the question Ill berate you. If you say no, Im right. If you say yes, Ill insult you. Classic. Hot tip: a standup comic wouldnt call me out by name unprovoked and insult my wife for something she cant control.

I actually have things to do at this point in my day, sadly, so I wont have time to go over the rest of the dumb shit you said. (Yes, I know youre going to claim victory because I actually have places to be other than gamefaqs. Oh well.) Have fun continuing to pretend insulting someones wife for their medical condition is cracking jokes but yelling at them for it is screaming profanities, you disingenuous weirdo.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 6:29:18 PM
#244
Fluttershy posted...
My personal line

holy fuck how desperate are you for my attention? i wasn't talking to you. fuck off!

i'm actually embarrassed for you. i won't be feeding you any more attention from here. please spare me the embarrassment of having to watch you try for it.

Well, I'd categorize mental trauma as "lasting injury" as well.

that's a start.

Bro you are so fucking weird and narcissistic lol. I was responding to a post you made on a message board that could be construed as also applying to the things Id been saying. Get over yourself.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 6:26:42 PM
#241
UnfairRepresent posted...
I've been stabbed 3 times.

Chris Rock is an victim of assault.

They're both assault. When you insult victims and downplay assault you insult me and anyone else.

WTF....

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Ive also been assaulted, and I disagree with you.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 6:25:56 PM
#239
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'd argue climbing on stage during a show and assaulting the host/presenter/performer while screaming profanity etc would get you arrested unless you were a millionaire. And there's quantfiable cases of this happening over and over.

You're the one who keeps adding new things like "Only if they are rich" And then got furious at me for pointing out that it would happen no matter what.

Unless the guy doing the assault is a millionaire.

I can't think of a single case ever in history were a non millionaire has jumped on stage during a show, assaulted the host/performer while screaming profanity and not been arrested.

Please point out when this has occured.

Yes

And I've asked for evidence where this ever wasn't the case and you can't provide it

And more downplaying

1st guy: Host of a show were your job is to make jokes: "Made Jokes"

2nd guy: Jumped on stage and assaulted someone while screaming profanity.

"Well they both need to be punished for being silly also the 2nd guy shouldn't be arrested but I refuse to answer whetether I would be arrested if I did it."

So let me try another question. Do you believe you should be allowed to jump on stage during shows and assault performers while screaming profanities without being arrested?

Only a yes or no please

Assuming they actively insulted my wife just before that, and are literally directly addressing me and my family? Yes, I do believe I should be able to walk over to them and slap them without going to prison. (Being arrested is not the thing actually being discussed here, despite your constant attempts to drag the goalposts all over the place, but I also dont think an arrest needs to happen, just separation.) just as I believe that should be the case anywhere and I dont particular care if theres a stage and rich people involved.

Spoilers: He won't answer this one either

lmao

I agree they aren't comparable so why are you bringing it up?

No you can't argue self defense from a violent attack and a comedian cracking a joke are the same thing.

I can argue that theyre both breaches of decorum at the Oscars and thus both deserving of punishment specifically from the academy. Which is what I actually said.

Your example here would be if Chris Rock slapped Will Smith back after being slapped and knocked him out. It would be victim blaming to then say Chris Rock should be arrested for defending himself.

So you do agree there is behavior deserving of retaliation, you just disagree what behavior that is. Interesting.

You see, because you're blaming the victim, Chris Rock... Like you just blamed the Victim, Chris Rock fact you're bootlicking so far to even pretend a comedian cracking a joke at a show is the same offense as a violent mugger trying to stab you with a knife just so you can defend millionaires being above the law is insane.

Victim blaming is when you blame a victim for just living their life and then being attacked for doing things that had nothing to do with the attacker. Like wearing certain clothes or being in a certain place. Not actively insulting someone else and being openly antagonistic.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 6:11:59 PM
#222
Fluttershy posted...
But go off on how being touched ever is assault. I'm sure the people with bruises, scars, and broken bones appreciate that.

because hey fuck all the people without visible proof of it, right? i feel like you're advocating for a line at which people can draw and reasonably expect to get away with assault.

i am giving you a chance to refine your position.

My personal line is you got slapped once for being an asshole, which I think is a pretty reasonable line, tbh. (Anything beyond that is likely assault, but Im also fine with assaulting Nazis, for example.) Cant speak for Voidgolems views, I dont agree you need visible bruises or broken bones.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 6:04:31 PM
#216
UnfairRepresent posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pauwBE1Rxfw

So in other words "yes"

Right so now we've established that I've revealed that you know the answer is yes.

Pretty much everyone has said yes except the few people are defending millionaires being above the law

No one who isn't defending Will Smith has struggled to answer such an obvious question

You were assaulted on stage while hosting a show and the person who beat you while screaming profanities up didn't go to prison?

You're lying.

Or you're moving the goalposts to something not only no one has said, but have gone out of their way to specifically point out they weren't talking about

You were assaulted on stage while hosting a show and the person who beat you while screaming profanities up didn't go to prison?

You're lying.

Or you're moving the goalposts to something not only no one has said, but have gone out of their way to specifically point out they weren't talking about

You were assaulted on stage while hosting a show and the person who beat you while screaming profanities up didn't go to prison?

You're lying.

Or you're moving the goalposts to something not only no one has said, but have gone out of their way to specifically point out they weren't talking about

And constant insults just demonstrates that you have no point.

It just sounds like that you're bitter that someone got away with assaulting you so you want to see other people get away with assaulting dudes you dislike. You'd think you'd have a little empathy for Chris Rock if you're a victim of assault but instead you want him to be punished

You are literally victim blaming lol

You're arguing Will Smith shouldn't be arrested for assaulting Chris Rock but Chris Rock should be banned from the Oscars for a year because Will Smith assaulted him

That's fucking mental. That's like a Tier 3 sub of Simping


I feel like I had a stroke reading this. Can you like.. actually respond to whats being said and stop pretending youre having a totally different conversation? Youre claiming anyone climbing onto a stage and slapping a rich person would go to prison. Im telling you that MAY be true, but if so, how do you explain people getting beaten up and the assaulter not going to prison? The buffet must be that it was done on stage and to a rich person. So theres different justice for the rich and famous. This is pretty easy logic to follow bud.

How is it that I say maybe, leaning yes but its not 100 percent and even the maybe is due to the two tiered justice system and you go so yes then? Can you read?

Evidently not, since I specifically told you I didnt press charges (because I didnt want them to go to prison for being an alcoholic with BPD) and you are making up this fantasy about me being bitter they didnt go to prison.

Im arguing they should both be banned from the Oscars for varying amounts of time because they both did shitty things on stage that are against the decorum of the event. Nice try though.

I was a victim of assault for no reason. Chris rock got slapped for being a dick. The two things arent comparable lmao. And I still dont think the person who beat me should go to prison.

By your definition, if someone mugged someone with a knife and ended up getting knocked out and I said they deserved it, Id be victim blaming. Your confusion may be that you dont seem to understand any type of nuance whatsoever.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 5:50:33 PM
#210
NhojAnec posted...
@Zonbei I thank you for at least watching the video. May I ask why you think he didn't make any great points? I have to agree with him when he said that we do not have the right to assault someone over words. Plus in Will Smith's case, he was shown first in the audience laughing at Chris's joke. If he was trying to fight for his wife's honor why did he first laugh at the joke? He clearly thought it was funny.

Also what stupid beliefs does Jim have? The only thing I know about him is that he is very much anti-Trump.

mostly I disagree that we dont have the right to assault someone over words. Ill punch a fucking nazi for saying Nazi shit. If someone harms my partner emotionally and goes too far, Id be okay with someone hitting them too. Im largely a pacifist, but Im far from agreeing that violence is never the answer to anything. Especially violence that doesnt cause permanent harm. its very strange to me that the type of people who are most likely to say things like talk shit get hit and talk about shooting intruders and generally being totally okay with violence start clutching their pearls the moment will smith slaps someone.

also Carrey going Id sue him for 200 million for slapping me after I said some shit I shouldnt have is some disconnected rich person nonsense.

As for the laugh, he likely wasnt even paying attention and was laughing politely. People are just on autopilot sometimes, especially at boring ass events like this. Then he saw his wife was upset and his brain caught up. Happens to me all the time. Thats one explanation at least.

Anti-vax shit mostly, and some woo-woo metaphysical nonsense. Off the top of my head.

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TopicThe man has said sorry a hundred times..
Zonbei
03/17/24 5:48:46 PM
#209
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wut.

When in the holy mother of hell did I say that? You're the one insulting me over and over and over and bending over backwards to find excuses for the exact opposite. Including wanting to punish the victims of millionaires who don't get punished for crimes

I have explained how you said it. You think slapping rich people should always send you to prison, even though that demonstrably isnt the case for anyone else.

You're being intellectually dishonest. All you do is insult people, refuse to answer basic questions and be disengenious

No one said "If you slap anyone ever you will be arrested"
It's "If you jumped on stage at the Oscars or any major show, assaulted the host and screamed profanity would you be arrested?"

And you know the answer is yes. Hence why you keep having to be disengenious as fuck.

No, I know the answer is maybe. As Ive said repeatedly. Leaning towards probably, solely due to the elitist protection of the rich and famous to an extent that goes above the average person. Are you going to keep telling me my own thoughts, incorrectly, or

Question*

And it's not inane. It instantly destroys people like you defending simping for millionaires. Hence why you can't answer it and ONLY people pushing your agenda can't answer it

People pushing my agenda (ie reality) have answered it though? I dont agree with them it a set yes, but pretty sure its been said. So not only is your question a false dichotomy, youre even wrong that nobody has said yes.

No.

There would be no blood from slapping a fish to death.

But I love how you're comparing insane scenarios you pulled out of your ass of nonsese to actual events that happened and have happened multiple times.

God, youre so close to understanding the problem with what you keep doing. So close.

Will Smith did jump on stage and assault the host of the Oscars while cursing profusely.

Multiple non millionaires have jumped on stage and assaulted performers during shows.

Every single of the latter was arrested. Usually multiple accounts of Assault/Battery and criminal trespass. Possibly even more serious charges in some cases.

So when I ask, if it happened to you, would you be? The answer is yes. And you know the answer is yes but if you say yes, then you've admitted that it's absurd to simp for millionaires and argue Will Smith shouldn't be because he deserves to be above you in the eyes of the law due to his elite status.

Why not roll over so they can step on the other side of your face?

And boom.

More simping. Now it's literal victim blaming

I literally just told you that I was beaten up by someone and they didnt go to prison. Do you think pretending you cant read is going well for you?

I have literally told you if the answer is yes I would go to prison (and its a maybe, not a yes), then that means its due to elitism. Because again, you dont always go to prison for beating the shit out of someone, let alone slapping them. As evidenced by my actual life, as mentioned above.

Care to address any of that instead of gish galloping all over the place like a horse on adderall?

its cute you think appropriating terms you dont understand like victim blaming is going to get you anywhere.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:31:38 PM
#201
NhojAnec posted...
@Voidgolem

Jim Carrey disagrees with you and I urge you to listen to what he said because he makes a great point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd9qrDtXq0E

I love the man as an actor, but Jim Carrey has historically had a few astoundingly stupid beliefs. Id view disagreeing with him as a pretty much a wash. (I did listen to what he said, I didnt hear any great points.)

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:27:46 PM
#199
NhojAnec posted...
The man has said sorry a hundred times..

But he never actually apologized to Chris Rock personally. He just made a public apology probably written by his publicists.

Probably because Chris Rock deserved to be slapped lol. Has Rock apologized for being a piece of shit to his wife?

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:25:22 PM
#197
Fluttershy posted...
i FOUND IT and HE'S BEAUTIFUL

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f65e76db.jpg

Looks like a Jojo character but with weird extra eyes. Is he Dio

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:23:38 PM
#196
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't agree and it is quantifiable because it's happened and the people go to jail.

You're basically arguing "I can't say you'd go to jail if you ran someone over with your car because hypothetically I can make up scenarios were you get away with it."

Once again, utterly disengenious

Funny how everytime people are stumped they go right back to insults and refusing to answer.

And once again, it's solely the people defending millionaires being above the law who do this. No one else is this dishonest.

Stop the evasions just admit it. The answer is yes, you know it's yes. You're solely pretending not to know that to defend Will Smith.

No it doesnt.

It's literally assault

All the people saying "It's just a slap, you don't get arrested for a slap!" are devaluing actual assault (and insulting assault victims)

And surprise surprise, the person downplaying and defending Will Smith being above the law wants the Victim to be punished.

Its not quantifiable. Whether you go to prison for slapping someone has multiple possible outcomes based on various factors including human emotion and choices based on that. It can go either way.

You're the one who thinks millionaires should have special protections; if I slapped a random person for being a dick I would most likely not go to prison. I have had the actual hell beaten out of me by someone, had the cops show up and take pictures of the damage, and that person didnt go to prison. (Because I didnt press charges.) You are talking out your ass, as usual.

Is it fun, posing inane questions and then when you get called out pretending people are evading them? Let me try. If you walked into the ocean and slapped an endangered fish to death, would a shark come after you, drawn by the blood? Yes or No? If you dont answer Im going to accuse you of evasion and imply it means your entire premise is wrong despite the question having nothing to do with it, and if you do Ill ignore it and pretend you never did.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:13:38 PM
#190
Voidgolem posted...
to call this assault devalues actual assault. I'd say five years is probably acceptable though you don't make scenes like this in public without some kind of repercussion

Id agree with five years, as long as Chris Rock is banned for at least 1 year for being a piece of shit as a host. Don't go up there after being allowed that privilege and use it to shit on people, that cant be up to the standards of this super important pointless movie organization.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:12:07 PM
#189
hereforemnant posted...
That's what he doesn't understand though, as funny as the meltdowns have been in here, his question has been a false dichotomy from the beginning. Only siths deal in absolutes & blah blah blah. Bringing up a dog & cancer ward child getting slapped is even more fucking absurd lmao, I think that's moving the goalposts in addition to being hyperbolic right??

It absolutely is. And Im pretty sure he understands it, but he likes to unfairly represent other peoples views. I dont even think hes a troll, I think he just sucks as a person.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:07:58 PM
#186
Fluttershy posted...
i'd literally jump accounts if you talked shit about him

you think i'm being over-the-top here, i think i was warned for it?

Is that supposed to mean something to me? What does jumping accounts accomplish? Are you going to say mean words to defend the fictional anime man?

Yes. Youre being over the top here. Your ability to get even more over the top about it doesnt change that. If anything it proves my point.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:07:08 PM
#183
VeggetaX posted...
Yes anyone prolly not as privileged as Will would prolly go to jail for that night, or not if they post bond, for assault especially if the victim press charges. Is anyone disagreeing with this?

Yeah its a probably, but its a very strong probably. If they dont press charges you might not go to prison though.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 5:06:13 PM
#181
UnfairRepresent posted...
I don't think that's true.

If they wheeled a Make a Wish kid onto the stage at the Oscars to do something and you jumped up and assaulted the random kid, you'd also go to prison. I also think if security tried to intercept you and you assaulted them, you'd still go to prison. If there was a dog on stage and you ran up and started slapping the dog, you'd go to prison

The crime is jumping on stage and assaulting the host

Also once again note how EVERY SINGLE user who licks the boots of millionaires can't answer the question with a yes or a no. Not a single one. All they can do is disengeniously downplay it in the most see-through excuses.

That says it all.

I mean. I cant answer it because it isnt an easily quantifiable question. You may or may not go to jail. There is no absolute yes or no here.

I would lean toward yes, Id probably go to jail, but as mentioned thats more because of the elitist way of protecting the rich and famous.

Im not even going to address your stupid false equivalence about slapping a dying child. Come on man. (Okay Ill address it a little. That person would need psychological help more than anything.)

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:54:57 PM
#173
BloodMoon7 posted...
Hey now there's some good anime men out there. Don't be hating bro.

Fair, but Fluttershy is being hilariously over the top about some specific anime dude

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:54:28 PM
#171
Fluttershy posted...
huh. well thanks, wasn't expecting that. that's a reasonable criticism, but i'm not sure i agree with it. i've done a lot of different character concepts. i guess if you're bored of horror themes, it is what it is

to be fair, now that i actually expressed that to an artist, i think maybe a lot of it is on me. i really do envy what you're capable of.

i've avoided posting in your topics because i draw arguments but i am a fan, even if i grouse about it here. the infection au is bugging the fuck out of me right now though. i think it's really easy to draw bones hanging out and sores.

zonbei, shut the fuck up and stop having a meltdown.

fucking lmao.
You got called out. I have no emotional investment here, I just got here. There isnt even the barest hint of a meltdown, just me explaining to you and then making fun of you for acting like a brat.

so of course your go to is no u

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:51:19 PM
#167
Fluttershy posted...
i appreciate that. it's funny how my haters have been an AI techbro, and then this dude

you'd be all over the infection AU going through the mlp artist community right now, i'm sure.

Youre projecting

you're writing like half a paragraph to try to explain it when i'm not. convincing is brief. try again.


wait wait wait wait. Youve been yelling about how nobody can tell you how youre projecting, and then when someone does, you go wow you wrote half a paragraph, doesnt count! What the fuck is wrong with you lmao.

You are having a meltdown. You are projecting those emotions onto someone else. Done.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:49:30 PM
#165
UnfairRepresent posted...
Thank you.

It's weird right? It's such a remarkably easy question to answer yet a select few who really like insulting people can't do it.

Your point that youd be in prison for slapping a rich person on stage doesnt back up what you think it does. Thats a two tiered justice system. Youd only be in prison because theyre rich and famous. (If you went to prison at all, which isnt a guarantee.)

in a fair world, slapping anyone once doesnt send you to prison. Except important political figures I guess.

You're arguing against yourself and you dont realize it because youre, you know. You.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:47:04 PM
#163
Fluttershy posted...
Who is that?

that's Ryomen Fucking Sukuna

no one cares about anime man number 7000

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:46:46 PM
#162
Fluttershy posted...
what even would i be projecting? i actually answered the question. holy shit, bad form my dude. take the rest of the day off for your own sake you're so toast!

haunt some other topic defeated ghost of an argument past, rattle your bitter chains elsethread


Youre projecting your feelings about your current emotional state, the one where youre having a meltdown over defending UnfairRepresents, a person who sucks, onto someone else. Deep down you know youre being irrational and unreasonable, so youre projecting those feelings towards yourself onto someone else. Thats what projection is.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:44:00 PM
#157
VeggetaX posted...
I'm 100% sure a slap wouldn't be this downplayed if it happened to someone you like.

If the person I like was acting like a total piece of shit, Id feel the exact same way. Yall keep talking about privilege and shit, but rock thought he was safe from consequences because he was up on a stage and theres decorum and blah blah. Turns out sometimes you still get hit for talking shit.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:38:36 PM
#149
Number090684 posted...
Fuck Will Smith. Not only did he do it, he initially refused to apologize and didn't face any legal consequences. He used his status and influence to get away with a crime and that makes him a piece of shit.

If you clutch those pearls any harder theyre going to shatter.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 4:36:36 PM
#223
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Yeah thats actually my most right wing viewpoint as well, lol.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 1:44:00 PM
#209
mustachedmystic posted...
I know exactly what they are, telephone pole sized metal rods deployed in satellites that utilize kinetic energy instead of explosives. It is not a complicated system to implement, and is not illegal by any international convention or treaty. The only thing stopping us from acknowledging that we possess them, if we actually do that is, is that it would establish a precedent for other nations to develop them.
Edit: tungsten does not emit ionizing radiation, and therefore is conventional.

We dont possess them, and they are actually WILDLY complicated to implement, and basically not remotely worth it. I know you think you know what youre talking about because you heard about how cool they are once, but no. Insanely expensive, take prohibitively long to actually deploy, (you have to de-orbit the rods) and arent as destructive as you think. They
will not be raining down anywhere.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 3:51:42 AM
#148
mustachedmystic posted...
For fuck sakes, look at a map. Russia cannot even invade its neighbor for witch it bas a 1900 mile land border. You cannot possibly think they can raise an army to cross the Bering straight, and overwhelm Alaska, before we would literally rain hellfire from air, space, and ground. We would use every conventional weapon we have on them. Rods From God would rain down on Moscow and St. Petersburg.

You dont seem to know what Rods from God means. Hint: they dont currently exist as a weapon we have, they probably never will, and they certainly wouldnt be conventional.

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Zonbei
03/17/24 2:37:45 AM
#131
SkittyOnWailord posted...
Yes, Biden probably did a better job than Trump. Both of them are kinda bad choices imo, for different reasons. I'd prefer if there were better choices on both sides.

.. PROBABLY?

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:19:36 PM
#77
ai123 posted...
This is supposed to be the standard now. Just to convict a person. Never mind execute them.

Right, which is why it costs so much to execute someone. Which is why we shouldnt bother because its a waste of money, and just get rid of the death penalty entirely.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:18:55 PM
#76
ForsakenHermit posted...
Personally I can't agree with any justice system that doesn't allow at least de facto life imprisonment. Some people are too dangerous to ever be released even if apparently rehabilitated. It's incredibly hypocritical to be against the death penalty because an innocent could be killed because of human error and support a system that could allow a dangerous and guilty person to go free and potentially kill innocent people. Some people need to be locked up forever. Be humane to them but their right to freedom shouldbe forfeited.

Assuming they cannot be rehabilitated even after trying? Sure.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:09:54 PM
#69
runewalshPSiv posted...
Immigration. If you didn't come here through the proper legal channels then get the fuck out.

Like the people who settled America?

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:08:42 PM
#68
PurpleOutsider posted...
Death penalty. If we still try to say that prison is supposed to be rehabilitation, then I don't think life in prison makes sense. We've already determined that they should never be integrated into society ever.

Thats more an argument for not having life in prison as a penalty than it is for killing people. If someone truly cannot be rehabilitated, sure, but should at least try.

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