Current Events > what's your most far right viewpoint?

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Enclave posted...

Neither of those are particularly right or left wing viewpoints. You regularly have people on both the left and right cancel people and reject art due to who the artist is.

Gwynevere posted...

I'm not gonna pretend people on the left don't participate in cancel culture, but that's definitely not exclusive to the left. Look at how conservatives reacted to bud light featuring a trans person, or the satanic panic of the 80s, stuff like that

Fair points, I just know I've had friends lay into me when like, a song by a (legitimately) shitty-as-a-person artist pops up on one of my playlists and stuff like that, or refuse to watch Baby Driver becaus Kevin Spacey is in it, and I'm just like, come on. Yeah, they're shitty people, but Baby Driver's still a good movie. >_>

Guess that still doesn't make it an inherently political stance though. Pretty much all of my friends are liberal, so I guess I just kinda made that association.

cjsdowg posted...

Illegal immigration suppressed the wages of African Americans. And the Democrats don't care because they know that Republicans are so evil and racist that would stop black people for switching over en masse.

how does illegal immigration suppressed wages of African Americans?

The_Popo posted...

End womens suffrage

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People are finally realising the flaws of it now, so I dunno if this is even a right wing view anymore, but I despise therapy speak.

metralo posted...

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Women's right to vote.

ellis123 posted...

Women's right to vote.

So you want women to be banned from voting ?

Derwood posted...

I cant think of a single thing that a right winger has said in the past 20 years that I agree with

Same. Everything they say is something I can never agree with.

ellis123 posted...

Women's right to vote.

right. Why would any freak want this?

kage_53 posted...

So you want women to be banned from voting ?

I am not The_Popo, why are you asking me? Of course I like women being able to vote.

metralo posted...

right. Why would any freak want this?

Being a not good person?

Sorry, just thought we would all be on the same page of what that means if we are in this thread

The only thing I could think of is the death penalty, however even that wasn't far right because I wanted for more stringent standards than right-wingers want for executing someone.

And even though a part of me still believes in that, ultimately I have sided against it due to innocent people who are executed.

pjnelson posted...

Pro-life (ferus) pro-capital-punishment (screw murderer lives) gun owning Democrat here.

Amazing that you could actually type out "pro-life" and "pro-capital-punishment" literally word to word without seeing the disconnect.

You're not pro-life, your pro-forced birth or pro-fetus, just like many other right-wingers (not saying you're a right-winger, however this is the company you keep with on these hypocritical views) who want children to suffer after they out of the womb, support wars, and support the state executing people.

metralo posted...

Sorry, just thought we would all be on the same page of what that means if we are in this thread

Not everyone here is necessarily a centrist/leftist, some people are actually right-wingers. A right-winger can have a viewpoint that they view as their "furthest right", in this case it's the belief that women should not be allowed to vote.

metralo posted...

right. Why would any freak want this?

It's probably (though not definitely) safe to assume it was said as a joke. Even most extreme right-wing types don't support taking that away yet.

Trumble posted...

It's probably (though not definitely) safe to assume it was said as a joke. Even most extreme right-wing types don't support taking that away yet.

There are right-wingers seeking office who have literally said this. Mark Robinson in North Carolina and John Gibbs in Michigan are 2 examples.

If they feel confident enough to say it as candidates seeking office it's because they feel like enough of their base will support such notions. After all, the GOP's sole MO these days is seeking approval of their base and trying to out fascist other Republican candidates in order to be seen as the most favorable candidate to their base.

I'm pro-choice, pro "the Wall", pro death penalty, anti guns, anti recreational marijuana, anti religion in schools and government, pro fixing the environment and stopping global warming, and I want very high taxes for the rich.

Someone tell me what that puts me in. Dem or Repub.

SkittyOnWailord posted...

I'm pro-choice, pro "the Wall", pro death penalty, anti guns, anti recreational marijuana, anti religion in schools and government, pro fixing the environment and stopping global warming, and I want very high taxes for the rich.

Someone tell me what that puts me in. Dem or Repub.

Well you're 3/9 on traditional "right-wing views", so it should be pretty obvious where you land.

However, I will also say that a lot of those left-leaning views you hold aren't inherently Dem either because that party can be really disappointing at times when it comes to doing the right thing. Quite a few of your views are further left than the Dem party itself is.

Kradek posted...

Well you're 3/9 on traditional "right-wing views", so it should be pretty obvious where you land.

However, I will also say that a lot of those left-leaning views you hold aren't inherently Dem either because that party can be really disappointing at times when it comes to doing the right thing. Quite a few of your views are further left than the Dem party itself is.

Yeah, idk. The more I read about it, the more I don't think I really fit in with either side. For presedents, I liked Clinton, Obama, and Trump. Didn't like Bush or Biden.

SkittyOnWailord posted...

Yeah, idk. The more I read about it, the more I don't think I really fit in with either side. For presedents, I liked Clinton, Obama, and Trump. Didn't like Bush or Biden.

Ok, you've got to explain how you actually like Trump more than Biden, because that's straight-up illogical. Especially since you also liked Obama, and Trump is the anti-Obama. Like, the dude literally considered himself that and made it his mission to undo everything Obama did.

Kradek posted...

Ok, you've got to explain how you actually like Trump more than Biden, because that's straight-up illogical.

I somewhat liked his border policies, though not to the extreme he did.
My second reason isn't political at all. It was funny watching him and seeing the random stuff he would do. It was like watching a comedy sitcom.
I just find Biden boring.

I didn't really care for most of what either did, but at least Trump was entertaining. Probably not a very good reason to like him, huh?

SkittyOnWailord posted...

I'm pro-choice, pro "the Wall", pro death penalty, anti guns, anti recreational marijuana, anti religion in schools and government, pro fixing the environment and stopping global warming, and I want very high taxes for the rich.

Someone tell me what that puts me in. Dem or Repub.

Did Mexico ever pay for that?

Probably something fiscally related

SkittyOnWailord posted...

I somewhat liked his boarder policies, though not to the extreme he did.
My second reason isn't political at all. It was funny watching him and seeing the random stuff he would do. It was like watching a comedy sitcom.
I just find Biden boring.

I didn't really care for most of what either did, but at least Trump was entertaining. Probably not a very good reason to like him, huh?

It's not, especially not with the harm Trump did to the country, its institutions, faith in elections, faith in facts & reality and the further damage he promises to do if he gets back in the White House.

However, I do appreciate your honesty so I'm not going to lambaste you for it.

I'll grant you that a clown is more entertaining than someone who takes governing seriously, however the Office of POTUS is not meant to be the main attraction of a circus. Biden may be boring, however that's because he's actually doing and has done great things for Americans due to taking the Office seriously.

ooger posted...

Did Mexico ever pay for that?

I heard that after seeing what happened on Jan 6th, Mexico built the wall right away and Canada were looking into building one too.

I think people on the left should own guns.

Smashingpmkns posted...

I think people on the left should own guns.

I understand why you think that's a right-wing view, however many leftists actually hold this view because it's the most logical defense against right-wingers with guns.

I see the logic behind it, however due to my own personal stance on guns I don't agree with the desire to own in general, though I do see their logic. More Dems/leftists/progressives/liberals own guns than a lot of people on the right think because they don't make it a core aspect of their identity and talk about it every opportunity they get.

Id say the death penalty. While yes we need some hardcore regulations on that shit because god knows how many innocent lives have been lost because of it but I will not shed a tear for those who legitimately have been that much of a danger to people or have gotten away with killings to the degree they have gotten before being arrested.

Kradek posted...

however many leftists actually hold this view because it's the most logical defense against right-wingers with guns.

I see the logic behind it, however due to my own personal stance on guns I don't agree with the desire to own in general

Yeah man that's why I said it lol

Smashingpmkns posted...

Yeah man that's why I said it lol

I understand, though in fairness I guess you probably weren't saying it was a right-wing view, just the closest it gets to being such.

Kradek posted...

I'll grant you that a clown is more entertaining than someone who takes governing seriously, however the Office of POTUS is not meant to be the main attraction of a circus. Biden may be boring, however that's because he's actually doing and has done great things for Americans due to taking the Office seriously.

Yes, Biden probably did a better job than Trump. Both of them are kinda bad choices imo, for different reasons. I'd prefer if there were better choices on both sides.

Ive done a few voting tests and policy checkers and its basically only a single migration point. The two most leftist parties here share my concerns with how migration is handled and how we should make sure migration isnt needed as much, but they dont want a temporary migration stop or funnel until those things are fixed and with how things are now with housing, fair spread of migrants in the country, weird nitrogen laws, issues with construction of housing in an already overpopulated country, violence in the asylum centers between different groups of migrants and companies who keep fighting for shittier rules and wages for migrant workers thats just not possible. The weird thing is that letting migrants come in with no end in sight is a leftist stance here, while the reasons for those are almost exclusively right wing. We got people like Wilders screaming about a total stop, but the big wigs wont agree when certain sectors like most of the flower business and nursing are a total scam and relies on slavery and human trafficking.

We could solve half the issues above tomorrow but we wont because were the most bureaucratic country in the world and the government itself hates non-whites openly (dont look up the childcare benefits scandal if you want to sleep well tonight) so they dont care about actually fixing issues for them.

SkittyOnWailord posted...

Yes, Biden probably did a better job than Trump. Both of them are kinda bad choices imo, for different reasons. I'd prefer if there were better choices on both sides.

.. PROBABLY?

I guess it would the defense budget. I always have been, and still are that for America to protect its interests around the globe, a strong military is of upmost importance.

Probably zoning, regulation and red tape regarding building housing and things in general.

We need to make it easier to build things such as housing, public transportation, power lines, nuclear plants, solar, wind farms, etc

I'm just YIMBY as fuck.

mustachedmystic posted...

I guess it would the defense budget. I always have been, and still are that for America to protect its interests around the globe, a strong military is of upmost importance.

This. I personally feel some countries would invade us in a split second if they felt we where weak. We hold a lot of influence and also hated by many.

If they want us to bomb, we should bomb.

I like daylight savings time. No need to change that.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

This. I personally feel some countries would invade us in a split second if they felt we where weak. We hold a lot of influence and also hated by many.

Sure, Russia, and China. Luckily we have 2 oceans, and Canada as a natural barrier to invasion that costs us nothing.

ShaneMcComez posted...

I like daylight savings time. No need to change that.

That's not affiliated with any party, ideology, or side of the spectrum. A year or so ago both parties overwhelmingly voted to end it, but it ultimately went nowhere.

Also, it's nonsense that only existed to conserve energy during WWI, I honestly don't know what you would like about. Arizona doesn't even adhere to the asininity, demonstrating it's not essential to anything.

mustachedmystic posted...

and Canada as a natural barrier to invasion that costs us nothing.

Lmfao, bruh. WTF do you expect us to do? We're still waiting on the US to sell us F-35's and our Navy is even worse off. Our military is way fucking behind y'all. We won't be able to do shit.

Againt Trans women competing in same sports with CIS women, especially combat sports.

Kradek posted...

Arizona doesn't even adhere to the asininity, demonstrating it's not essential to anything.

Arizona has an actual reason for not adhering to it though.

electricbugs2 posted...

Arizona has an actual reason for not adhering to it though.

Their reason is they didn't stupidly vote to approve it like every other U.S. state (that existed at the time) did.

Regardless of their reasoning for deciding against it, that is the reason they don't have it; because they didn't vote to have it. That's literally the only reason it exists in the rest of the nation.

It's just bullshit created during WWI to preserve oil (which public lamps used back then for lighting) so more could be used for the war effort.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/02/21/daylight-saving-time-purpose-explained/11275474002/#:~:text

electricbugs2 posted...

Lmfao, bruh. WTF do you expect us to do? We're still waiting on the US to sell us F-35's and our Navy is even worse off. Our military is way fucking behind y'all. We won't be able to do shit.

You dont have to do anything, eh. Its your mass. If Russia would try a land invasion, we would see it the moment they cross the straight. We would have a million troops massed at our border before the Russians could advance south of The Yukon

Kradek posted...

Their reason is they didn't stupidly vote to approve it like every other U.S. state.

I mean, sure, but it's because of the climate that they didn't vote for it.

mustachedmystic posted...

You dont have to do anything, eh. Its your mass. If Russia would try a land invasion, we would see it the moment they cross the straight. We would have a million troops massed at our border before the Russians could advance south of The Yukon

I hope you're right. Unlike Ukraine, I don't see us being able to do shit against Russia, paper tiger or not.

Kradek posted...

That's not affiliated with any party, ideology, or side of the spectrum. A year or so ago both parties overwhelmingly voted to end it, but it ultimately went nowhere.

Well then I guess I don't have any far right viewpoints, or at least none that I know.

Kradek posted...

Also, it's nonsense that only existed to conserve energy during WWI, I honestly don't know what you would like about. Arizona doesn't even adhere to the asininity, demonstrating it's not essential to anything.

I like having that extra hour of daylight in the evening during the spring and summer time, and same with fall/winter having an extra hour of daylight in the morning. Also I don't have a sleep schedule, and it doesn't affect me and my day-to-day activities. It's a pure selfish reason why I like it.

ShaneMcComez posted...

I like having that extra hour of daylight in the evening during the spring and summer time, and same with fall/winter having an extra hour of daylight in the morning. Also I don't have a sleep schedule, and it doesn't affect me and my day-to-day activities. It's a pure selfish reason why I like it.

Well that's fair, I appreciate the honesty.

Also, the plan they voted for recently in Congress would have made the time setting with the extra hour of sunlight the permanent time, so you would have been satisfied with that because you still get what you want, only on a permanent basis.

electricbugs2 posted...

I mean, sure, but it's because of the climate that they didn't vote for it.

I hope you're right. Unlike Ukraine, I don't see us being able to do shit against Russia, paper tiger or not.

For fuck sakes, look at a map. Russia cannot even invade its neighbor for witch it bas a 1900 mile land border. You cannot possibly think they can raise an army to cross the Bering straight, and overwhelm Alaska, before we would literally rain hellfire from air, space, and ground. We would use every conventional weapon we have on them. Rods From God would rain down on Moscow and St. Petersburg.

mustachedmystic posted...

For fuck sakes, look at a map. Russia cannot even invade its neighbor for witch it bas a 1900 mile land border. You cannot possibly think they can raise an army to cross the Bering straight, and overwhelm Alaska, before we would literally rain hellfire from air, space, and ground. We would use every conventional weapon we have on them. Rods From God would rain down on Moscow and St. Petersburg.

You dont seem to know what Rods from God means. Hint: they dont currently exist as a weapon we have, they probably never will, and they certainly wouldnt be conventional.

Zonbei posted...

You dont seem to know what Rods from God means. Hint: they dont currently exist as a weapon we have, they probably never will, and they certainly wouldnt be conventional.

I know exactly what they are, telephone pole sized metal rods deployed in satellites that utilize kinetic energy instead of explosives. It is not a complicated system to implement, and is not illegal by any international convention or treaty. The only thing stopping us from acknowledging that we possess them, if we actually do that is, is that it would establish a precedent for other nations to develop them.
Edit: tungsten does not emit ionizing radiation, and therefore is conventional.

mustachedmystic posted...

I know exactly what they are, telephone pole sized metal rods deployed in satellites that utilize kinetic energy instead of explosives. It is not a complicated system to implement, and is not illegal by any international convention or treaty. The only thing stopping us from acknowledging that we possess them, if we actually do that is, is that it would establish a precedent for other nations to develop them.

I'd be all for it if everyone agreed to get rid of nukes in favor.