Current Events > The man has said sorry a hundred times..

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Fluttershy posted...

oh my god shut the fuck up please
(my bad, forgot about you)
(i said i wouldn't feed you any more attention but i forgot, consider being more memorable going forward to help me out)

Nothing says "I don't care" like stopping to edit your post three times to really highlight how little you care.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Assault victims are assault victims.

Agreed.

Getting slapped is not. Next.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Hell the fact you keep having to both lie and edit out almost all the meat of all my posts just to double down on insulting assault victims proves that you know how f***ed up it is.

Which assault victims have I insulted, be specific :|

UnfairRepresent posted...

Slapping a phone out of someone's hand is assault.

Disagree. That's property damage.

Depends on what is done and the incident in question

those terms are clearly laid. if you can't answer the question, don't respond to the post.

Nothing says

drizzt i live rent-free in your head. please continue to serve as my personal REO speedwagon.

Fluttershy posted...

those terms are clearly laid. if you can't answer the question, don't respond to the post.

there was no question posed. You stated it was assault. I said it depends.

you knew what i was questioning you on even if no actual question was posed. don't be like that.

what you don't understand is that people who commit assault don't get to set the terms of what is assault. because then they'd always set it one level ahead of what they commit.

if you don't want to protect people from being slapped, the people who want to assault others will just slap the fuck out of everyone. i think you get that, you're just being insincere because you don't want to concede anything in a forum argument and your ego is at stake.

Voidgolem posted...

Everyone who bumps into you in the subway has "Assaulted" you from your definition here. Is that what you want to work with?

It's not "My Definition" it's "The" definition

Used by everyone except you while you brag that you laugh at victims.

I'm unpleasant

Yes

for pointing out that you're being extremely weird over this?

"Man you're weird for pointing out that I'm redefining words solely so I can mock victims."

what the fuck....

Voidgolem posted...

It's toxic to say that there should be a definite standard higher than a slap when it comes to charging people for crimes?

You're being intellectually dishonest. You're downplaying what happened like all the people defending Will Smith

He jumped on stage at a show (in this case the Oscars) and slapped Chris Rock while screaming profanities and threatening him. On film in front of thousands of witnesses and 30 cameras.

That's textbook assault, you almost couldn't picture a more basic fundamental open and shut assault.

Going "So just accusing someone of a slap is all it takes to charge someone for crimes!?" is so disengenious it makes Donald Trump look honest.

But yes you are exetremely toxic and so that was post.

okay, every person that's bumped you in the subway has assaulted you. You may now claim to be "a victim of assault". Go for it.

If someone in the subway intentionally shoulders you while walking by with violent intent then yes, they assaulted you. I think there was an entire scene in Joker about this very situation.

Even if you didn't break your leg or had no scars.

Why are you pretending this is hard to understand.....?

UnfairRepresent posted...
Going "No, I'll laugh at assault victims if I don't think they were beaten enough" is madness.

going "I am an assault victim!" when you haven't actually been assaulted is insulting to assault victims, I think. And merits mockery.

(in general, since you keep misconstruing this. You have been, at least allegedly, so you are not included in this consideration)

UnfairRepresent posted...

Used by everyone except you while you brag that you laugh at victims.

the people I laugh at are, categorically, not victims. But you've latched onto it as a talking point so.

UnfairRepresent posted...

"Man you're weird for pointing out that I'm redefining words solely so I can mock victims."

what the f***....

Wrong.

UnfairRepresent posted...

You're being intellectually dishonest. You're downplaying what happened like all the people defending Will Smith

He jumped on stage at a show (in this case the Oscars) and slapped Chris Rock while screaming profanities and threatening him. On film in front of thousands of witnesses and 30 cameras.

That's textbook assault, you almost couldn't picture a more basic fundamental open and shut assault.

Open and shut something. I disagree that it's assault. Does merit punishment whatever it is.

UnfairRepresent posted...

If someone in the subway intentionally shoulders you while walking by with violent intent then yes, they assaulted you. I think there was an entire scene in Joker about this very situation.

Even if you didn't break your leg or had no scars.

Why are you pretending this is hard to understand.....?

If someone in the subway bumps into you with no lasting injury, and you describe it as "assault", I am going to assume you are intentionally being disrespectful to people and will treat you accordingly. Is that difficult to understand?

Voidgolem posted...

Agreed.

Getting slapped is not. Next.

It literally is.

An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

In what world is going up to someone and slapping them in the face while cursing and threatening them not assault?

Which assault victims have I insulted, be specific :|

The ones you said you laughed at because they didn't have broken bones.

Disagree. That's property damage.

You can disagree all you want. You're wrong.

Or at the very very least it can be both.

Seriously. what the fuck.

Look how far we've gone. We've now reached "Well I've redefined the English language and if we do that then we can downplay what Will Smith did."

UnfairRepresent posted...

Never ever go to a stand up comic.

Also seek help.

I've said the exact same thing the entire topic. You still haven't even answered my initial question

This is "yet you particpate in society" level...

Yes if mugger lunges at you with a knife you have the right to defend yourself.
if a stand up comic makes jokes you don't have the right to jump on a stage and assault them while screaming profanity.

..

I shouldn't even have to explain that, the fact you're pretending you don't understand the difference is embarrasing. I'm fairly sure a dog understands the difference.

Agreed.

No that's bullshit. First off "Actively insulting" is intellectual dishonesty. Secondly, it's a stand up comic making jokes at a show. Even Will Smith himself does not deny he was in the wrong.

Chris Rock did literally nothing wrong and you have 0 right to assault a comic for cracking jokes. That's fundamentalist religion level.

Jesus Christ George Carlin would have turned you into a blood frenzy.

Assault victims are assault victims.

Going "No, I'll laugh at assault victims if I don't think they were beaten enough" is madness.

Hell the fact you keep having to both lie and edit out almost all the meat of all my posts just to double down on insulting assault victims proves that you know how fucked up it is.

Slapping a phone out of someone's hand is assault.

You're just wrong and exetremely weird.

Lmao. If you dont answer the question Ill berate you. If you say no, Im right. If you say yes, Ill insult you. Classic. Hot tip: a standup comic wouldnt call me out by name unprovoked and insult my wife for something she cant control.

I actually have things to do at this point in my day, sadly, so I wont have time to go over the rest of the dumb shit you said. (Yes, I know youre going to claim victory because I actually have places to be other than gamefaqs. Oh well.) Have fun continuing to pretend insulting someones wife for their medical condition is cracking jokes but yelling at them for it is screaming profanities, you disingenuous weirdo.

Two things can be true

Intentionally hitting someone in the face is assault.

UR needs to shut the fuck up

UnfairRepresent posted...
In what world is going up to someone and slapping them in the face while cursing and threatening them not assault?

...this one?

UnfairRepresent posted...

The ones you said you laughed at because they didn't have broken bones.

Who? I said be specific instead of making up scenarios to be angry at.

UnfairRepresent posted...

You can disagree all you want. You're wrong.

Or at the very very least it can be both.

Seriously. what the f***.

Look how far we've gone. We've now reached "Well I've redefined the English language and if we do that then we can downplay what Will Smith did."

I disagree that it can be both.

"You're downplaying what he did!"

No. I simply disagree with the taxonomy. It was a bad thing and he deserved punishment for it. Theatrics like "IT'S ASSAULT" devalues the argument you are attempting to make :|

I actually have things to do at this point in my day, sadly, so I wont have time to go over the rest of the dumb shit you said. (Yes, I know youre going to claim victory because I actually have places to be other than gamefaqs. Oh well.)

sure thing. pick fights you can win, next time. oops, you were out of your depth.

i hope this experience teaches you about your own capability. like take whatever idea you have of yourself and cut it in half.

Voidgolem posted...

going "I am an assault victim!" when you haven't actually been assaulted is insulting to assault victims, I think. And merits mockery.

Ok but Chris Rock is an assault victim.
And shouldn't be mocked for being assaulted.

No one should be mocked because a weirdo slapped them in the face while screaming profanity.

the people I laugh at are, categorically, not victims. But you've latched onto it as a talking point so.

But...

1. They literally are Victims
2. Even if you do this (fucking absolutely bizarre) dance where you redefine words. You're still laughing at someone for being cursed at and slapped.

That's Saturday morning cartoon villain level. That's something Skeletor would do.

Open and shut something. I disagree that it's assault. Does merit punishment whatever it is.

Ok but you're disagreeing with undisputable facts.

An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

In what world is going up to someone and slapping them in the face while cursing and threatening them not assault?

And disageeing with facts while bragging that redefined words and now mock victims for using them correctly is super fucked up.

And personally insulting to me and other victims of assault on top of that. Please don't do it. It's immensely disrespectful and a complete middle finger to assault victims. If you've randomly decided a bunch of victims don't count for some reason, keep that to yourself and get some professional help.

If someone in the subway bumps into you with no lasting injury, and you describe it as "assault", I am going to assume you are intentionally being disrespectful to people and will treat you accordingly. Is that difficult to understand?

If they intentionally shoulder block you with the intent to hurt you?

Yes that's extremely difficult to understand because it's fucking bonkers both on an emotional level and on the basic comprehension of both English words and cause and effect.

So just to be clear, if there WAS a lasting injury? That would be assault?
But if there wasn't? It's not?

So if Chris Rock came out tomorrow and said he got brain damage from the slap? You'd now agree it was an assault?

like imagine all the assault you could get away with if there were specific qualifications for it.

it only takes a second. that might be a second too much to ask?

Voidgolem posted...

...this one?

I guess you don't live on planet Earh then

Who? I said be specific instead of making up scenarios to be angry at.

In this case Chris Rock but you said you and "everyone" laughs at any assault victim who was slapped or had no broken bones/scars.

I disagree that it can be both.

Then you're just literally wrong.
An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

"You're downplaying what he did!"

No. I simply disagree with the taxonomy. It was a bad thing and he deserved punishment for it. Theatrics like "IT'S ASSAULT" devalues the argument you are attempting to make :|

But it's literally assault.

This isn't even like a sneaky obscure legal definition. it's literally the basic A1 plain definition of assault used by the entire English speaking population across multiple countries for centuries....

Ok. Can you define assault for us? Since the dictionary and the rest of the English speaking popualtion has it wrong?

Fluttershy posted...

sure thing. pick fights you can win, next time. oops, you were out of your depth.

i hope this experience teaches you about your own capability. like take whatever idea you have of yourself and cut it in half.

Notice he only "has things to do" once he's been completely stumped.

But he has plenty of time to point out how busy he is. Roughly 238 times as long as it would have taken to answer the 2 most basic questions raised.

It's extremely telling.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Ok but Chris Rock is an assault victim.

Hard disagree.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Even if you do this (f***ing absolutely bizarre) dance where you redefine words. You're still laughing at someone for being cursed at and slapped.

I am laughing at someone making a mountain out of a molehill in a bid for sympathy points. The actual slapping and cursing notsomuch, that should be discouraged I think.

UnfairRepresent posted...

And disageeing with facts while bragging that redefined words and now mock victims for using them correctly is super f***ed up.

And personally insulting to me and other victims of assault on top of that. Please don't do it. It's immensely disrespectful and a complete middle finger to assault victims. If you've randomly decided a bunch of victims don't count for some reason, keep that to yourself and get some professional help.

I'm not the one desperately battling to play up a years old celebrity faux-pas

UnfairRepresent posted...

If they intentionally shoulder block you with the intent to hurt you?

An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person

who's redefining words now? "Assault is assault" or something. So they bumped you without your permission.

:|

UnfairRepresent posted...

So just to be clear, if there WAS a lasting injury? That would be assault?

I would say it merits investigation and redress, perhaps to the point of being called assault, yes.

UnfairRepresent posted...

So if Chris Rock came out tomorrow and said he got brain damage from the slap? You'd now agree it was an assault?

Sure.

Fluttershy posted...

like imagine all the assault you could get away with if there were specific qualifications for it.

it only takes a second. that might be a second too much to ask?

I mean, people -do- get away with it, at least per the definitions you and UR are so desperately attempting to push. So what's the point you're attempting to make here?

Jesus H Christ....

UnfairRepresent posted...

In this case Chris Rock but you said you and "everyone" laughs at any assault victim who was slapped or had no broken bones/scars.

we all laugh at people who make mountains out of molehills. It's a nontrivial portion of why society is in the state it is in, largely because people cause so much noise with the attempts that nothing gets -done-

I am not saying that's a good thing.

Voidgolem posted...

I mean, people -do- get away with it, at least per the definitions you and UR are so desperately attempting to push. So what's the point you're attempting to make here?

Once again I will reiterate the basic point

This isn't "My" definition like I've pulled a quote from a 17th century legal book from Alabama.

This is the basic definition used by everyone, everywhere, all over the world. Both in legal circles and general conversation.

Walking up to someone and intentionally slapping them in the face while screaming threats and profanity is assault. Regardless of if severe injury occurs or not.

Level of injury might affect a sentence or judgement in a court case. But it's assault either way. Demanding it's not assault and mocking victims is weird and fucked up.

You're talking like this is a debate and not just you being factually wrong about something immensely basic. And it's sticking a middle finger up at victims while doing so.

Including me for the record.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Once again I will reiterate the basic point

This isn't "My" definition like I've pulled a quote from a 17th century legal book from Alabama.

This is the basic definition used by everyone, everywhere, all over the world. Both in legal circles and general conversation.

Walking up to someone and intentionally slapping them in the face while screaming threats and profanity is assault. Regardless of if injury occurs or not.

Level of injury might affect a sentence or judgement in a court case. But it's assault either way.

You're talking like this is a debate and not just you being factually wrong and sticking a middle finger up at victims while doing so.

I ask again

which victims have I put a middle finger to, specifically

Voidgolem posted...

I ask again

which victims have I put a middle finger to, specifically

UnfairRepresent posted...

In this case Chris Rock but you said you and "everyone" laughs at any assault victim who was slapped or had no broken bones/scars.

Also by extention, any assault victims. So millions of people including me.

But like everyone defending Will Smith you've ignored pretty much literally everything I've said or asked, just solely so you can downplay it

UnfairRepresent posted...

But like everyone defending Will Smith you've ignored pretty much literally everything I've said or asked, just solely so you can downplay it

what part of "he did a bad thing and deserved to be punished for it" is impossible for you to comprehend in your weird obsessive argument here?

The man slapped someone on stage at one of the most prestigious events in hollywood. 10 years seems about right.

In your case, the part where you furiously argue against the English language itself solely you can pretend it wasn't assault just so you can downplay it and then brag that you laugh at assault victims.

Still waiting for your definition by the way, since the one everyone else in the world uses is wrong apparently.

UnfairRepresent posted...

In your case, the part where you furiously argue against the English language itself solely you can pretend it wasn't assault just so you can downplay it and then brag that you laugh at assault victims.

Still waiting for your definition by the way, since the one everyone else in the world uses is wrong apparently.

Answer the question.

What part of "He did a bad thing and deserved to be punished for it" do you not understand?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6c90629e.jpg

Voidgolem posted...

What part of "He did a bad thing and deserved to be punished for it" do you not understand?

...wut

I did answer that

You just quoted me answering it O_o

"In your case, the part where you furiously argue against the English language itself solely you can pretend it wasn't assault just so you can downplay it and then brag that you laugh at assault victims.

Still waiting for your definition by the way, since the one everyone else in the world uses is wrong apparently."

I guess in other words the part where you downplay his actions and insult assault victims by pretending "a bad thing" wasn't assault for reasons you literally cannot explain.

I mean I've posted the definition like 8 times now and asked you explain what yours is and why you use a different one and you literally have not responded to that ... While bragging that you laugh at assault victims.

UnfairRepresent posted...

...wut

I did answer that

No, you did not. You did however make up a lot of shit that objectively did not happen.

get off your victimization complex for -three seconds-, seek therapy if you need to. But stop trying to make it my problem.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I guess you don't live on planet Earh then

In this case Chris Rock but you said you and "everyone" laughs at any assault victim who was slapped or had no broken bones/scars.

Then you're just literally wrong.
An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

But it's literally assault.

This isn't even like a sneaky obscure legal definition. it's literally the basic A1 plain definition of assault used by the entire English speaking population across multiple countries for centuries....

Ok. Can you define assault for us? Since the dictionary and the rest of the English speaking popualtion has it wrong?

Notice he only "has things to do" once he's been completely stumped.

But he has plenty of time to point out how busy he is. Roughly 238 times as long as it would have taken to answer the 2 most basic questions raised.

It's extremely telling.

Fucking lmao

Thank you for doing exactly what I said you would. Do you understand how time works? I was free until about 3:50 PM, so I had plenty of time to say plenty of things. Then I had to drive to my exes place to hang out. Now Im there waiting for her to go find sunscreen and her hat for our walk, which is why Im free for roughly two minutes and decided to check in here for a laugh while Im waiting. Its called leaving your house, try it sometime.

BTW, has everyone noticed that the people defending Will Smith and downplaying his actions all to a man can't answer basic questions or respond to/make basic coherant points?

Then very quickly run away.

Meanwhile the dudes who don't think millionaires should be above the law have 0 issues whatsoever responding to questions or making basic points?

Funny that innit

UnfairRepresent posted...

BTW, has everyone noticed that the people defending Will Smith and downplaying his actions all to a man can't answer basic questions or respond to/make basic coherant points?

Then very quickly run away.

Meanwhile the dudes who don't think millionaires should be above the law have 0 issues whatsoever responding to questions or making basic points?

Funny that innit

You are a sad, strange little person, and I hope you one day receive the help you clearly need.

Zonbei posted...

Fucking lmao

Thank you for doing exactly what I said you would. Do you understand how time works? I was free until about 3:50 PM, so I had plenty of time to say plenty of things. Then I had to drive to my exes place to hang out. Now Im there waiting for her to go find sunscreen and her hat for our walk, which is why Im free for roughly two minutes and decided to check in here for a laugh while Im waiting. Its called leaving your house, try it sometime.

Another post that has plenty of time to point out how busy he is, far too busy to answer the most basic 2 yes or no questions. Yet the post he did make takes roughly 238 times as long as it would have taken to answer the 2 most basic questions raised.

And of course, only busy the moment you're stumped.

It's extremely telling.

Meanwhile the other dude (the one who brags that he laughs at and mocks assault victims) has literally resorted to nothing but insults.

he hit you with the reddit finisher

UnfairRepresent posted...

Meanwhile the other dude (the one who brags that he laughs at and mocks assault victims) has literally resorted to nothing but insults.

It's extremely telling that you have resorted to saying things that outright never happened as the core premise of your argument.

Points to consider. Did Chris rock go past his limit on what he should have joked about.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/frontburner/the-joke-that-made-it-to-the-supreme-court-of-canada-1.5916209

Currently in the Supreme court. If Will Smith went this route instead. Would it have been better?

Voidgolem posted...

It's extremely telling that you have resorted to saying things that outright never happened as the core premise of your argument.

Voidgolem posted...

If you claim to be an "Assault victim" from being slapped, you are getting laughed at. By everyone.

Voidgolem posted...

actually be an assault victim and you won't get laughed at

"He...he slapped me! When I was being a rude asshole in public!" yeah yeah do better.

Voidgolem posted...

going "I am an assault victim!" when you haven't actually been assaulted is insulting to assault victims, I think. And merits mockery.

the people I laugh at are, categorically, not victims. But you've latched onto it as a talking point so.

And you still won't post your definition of assault since you claim you're opposed to the one everyone else uses, but you will talk about how much an asshole Chris Rock is for..... telling jokes when he's a Comedian. Hmmmmmmmmm

An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

In what world is going up to someone and slapping them in the face while cursing and threatening them not assault?

Spoilers: He will never answer these questions

UnfairRepresent posted...

And you still won't post your definition of victim since you claim you're opposed to the one everyone else uses

Saying you would get laughed at for everyone for saying "getting bumped in the subway is assault!" is not "bragging about laughing at assault victims". It is an objective observation of reality.

But you clearly have unresolved trauma regarding this. I hope you one day have the help you need.

UnfairRepresent posted...

In what world is going up to someone and slapping them in the face while cursing and threatening them not assault?

This one. We've been over this already :|

If it were, we would see more repercussions than "Rich Idiot is banned from Rich Idiot party"

UnfairRepresent posted...

Spoilers: He will never answer these questions

Called it

Voidgolem posted...

If it were, we would see more repercussions than "Rich Idiot is banned from Rich Idiot party"

If the guy who assaulted Chris Rock wasn't a millionaire, there would have been

Dude would be arrested for assault (at least 2 charges) and criminal trespass. Would likely be in jail right now

This is the point. Smith got away with it because he's a millionaire and users are either flat out defending it or are downplaying it while talking shit about Chris Rock.

Some people are so fucking bizarre that they are literally reinventing words (although they refuse to tell us what the new definition is) just purely so they can defend Will Smith.

He said sorry a hundred times????

did he though? I know he didnt for the longest time. I know he even refused to

UnfairRepresent posted...

Called it

Seeing as you have nothing else in your life besides this obsessive argument, perhaps because you're a troll or otherwise just genuinely unpleasant person:

"WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF ASSAULT THEN!?"

An act that results in lasting physical or mental trauma. I don't feel "got slapped" falls into that category but then again I am not a lawyer or a doctor and it is not my job to set that bar. Could definitely get him with trespass for jumping the stage, I think.

Now answer my question, seeing as you've been waffling over this for fifty posts now:

Voidgolem posted...

What part of "He did a bad thing and deserved to be punished for it" do you not understand?

Be specific. These words. Not the words you made up because you got upset.

UnfairRepresent posted...

If the guy who assaulted Chris Rock wasn't a millionaire, there would have been

Dude would be arrested for assault (at least 2 charges) and criminal trespass. Would likely be in jail right now

This is the point. Smith got away with it because he's a millionaire and users are either flat out defending it or are downplaying it while talking s*** about Chris Rock.

Some people are so f***ing bizarre that they are literally reinventing words (although they refuse to tell us what the new definition is) just purely so they can defend Will Smith.

I am defending nobody. I simply disagree with the taxonomy you are attempting to push.

ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU ARE EVIDENTLY DAMAGED:
Voidgolem posted...

What part of "He did a bad thing and deserved to be punished for it" do you not understand?

Voidgolem posted...

An act that results in lasting physical or mental trauma.

That's just wrong.

It's just factually incorrect and also silly. Your own absurd example of "Someone bumping into you in the subway" could cause physical or mental trauma.
A brutal beatdown by 9 people could result no lasting physical or mental trauma. Yoselle Greenstein was once assaulted by a gang of Anti-semites. He won the fight and beat them all up.

By your logic he assaulted them because they all got injured and he didn't.

Nietzsche had a mental breakdown watching someone whip a horse and never recovered

Stick the correct definition literally everyone else in the world uses:

An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

The one you made up on the spot to downplay this assault is terrible

Voidgolem posted...

I am defending nobody. I simply disagree with the taxonomy you are attempting to push.

It's not "me attempting to push" it's universial. It's what the word means. it's common parlence, it's dictionary defined.

The people in the building watching it happen LITERALLY texted "Will Smith just assaulted Chris Rock" when it happened.

Other people who have done the same thing got arrested and are serving jail time for assault....

Voidgolem posted...

What part of "He did a bad thing and deserved to be punished for it" do you not understand?

...wut

I did answer that

You just quoted me answering it O_o

"In your case, the part where you furiously argue against the English language itself solely you can pretend it wasn't assault just so you can downplay it and then brag that you laugh at assault victims.

I guess in other words the part where you downplay his actions and insult assault victims by pretending "a bad thing" wasn't assault for reasons you literally cannot explain.

I mean you do realize this isn't a debate? You're just objectively wrong... As much as we can understand any objective reality on this earth....

IF you ran up and slapped Chris Rock while he was on stage, you would be arrested for assault

I can just imagine your defense lawyer burying his head in hands and going "Take whatever plea they give you and do not say a word to anyone" as you tell him your plans to lecture the jury that it's not assault to walk up to someone and slap them the face while cursing and threatening them. Then laugh at the prosecution for not understanding what assault means and the victim deserves mockery and laughter.

UnfairRepresent posted...

That's just wrong.

It's just factually incorrect and also silly. Your own absurd example of "Someone bumping into you in the subway" coult cause physical or mental trauma.

Nietzsche had a mental breakdown watching someone whip a horse and never recovered

Yes, and in those cases I would agree it's assault. I don't know why you're having such difficulty processing this beyond your strange victimization complex.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I mean you do realize this isn't a debate? You're just objectively wrong.

if it's not a debate why are you still here.

UnfairRepresent posted...

IF you ran up and slapped Chris Rock while he was on stage, you would be arrested for assault

Quite probably! Except I wouldn't do that. The rich have their own sets of rules, after all, and I would not be surprised if they tried as much as possible to make whatever stick that they could.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I can just imagine your defense lawyer burying his head in hands and going "Take whatever plea they give you and do not say a word to anyone" as you tell him your plans to lecture the jury that it's not assault to walk up to someone and slap them the face while cursing and threatening them. Then laugh at the prosecution for not understanding what assault means and the victim deserves mockery and laughter.

why would I lecture the jury instead of a random traumatized individual on the internet that is insisting on fighting me over nothing? Do you think everyone is as insane as you appear to be?

If it helps:

Were I to be slapped for my opinion here, I would be insulted, yes, but I wouldn't consider it assault unless you knocked a tooth out or something.

Now, if you wanted a secondary discussion on "The rich shouldn't have their own set of rules", I'd be wholeheartedly in agreement. I'd still disagree with your taxonomy here, but y'know

Voidgolem posted...

Yes, and in those cases I would agree it's assault. I don't know why you're having such difficulty processing this beyond your strange victimization complex.

Because it doesn't make any sense lol

It's so stupid to reject the obective definition used by everyone and invent your own language that redefines words.... and then your own is so bad that it doesn't make a lick of coherent sense and is completely inadequate

if it's not a debate why are you still here.

Because you literally begged me to answer your question... and I was in this topic before you lol.

Also because I want you to stop being so weird and insultign victims.

Quite probably! Except I wouldn't do that. The rich have their own sets of rules, after all, and I would not be surprised if they tried as much as possible to make whatever stick that they could.

Indeed and that sucks.

It sucks that Will Smith wasn't arrested due to elitism, it sucks his ban wasn't permanent, it sucks that people want it reduced and it sucks that people like yourself are trying to downplay it.

why would I lecture the jury instead of a random traumatized individual on the internet that is insisting on fighting me over nothing? Do you think everyone is as insane as you appear to be?

Trust me, if this was a court case you'd find out just how "insane" all these people are who use the basic legal (and common parlence) definitions of words are to criminals who commit crimes.

You might almost say that words matter.

If it helps:

Were I to be slapped for my opinion here, I would be insulted, yes, but I wouldn't consider it assault unless you knocked a tooth out or something.

Ok but you're factually wrong.

An analogy

"If someone stole my car here and drove away. It's a bad thing but it's not Grand Theft Auto. It would only be Grand Theft Auto if the car was more valuable. I laugh at people whose cheap crappy cars get stolen. A dude who says he's a victim of GTA because someone stole his KIA deserves mockery. A GTA victim is someone who has their Rolls-Royce stolen "

It's such a fucking bizarre thing to say, completely incorrect, completely pointless and insulting.

Makes me wonder why in the holy hell you saying it.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Because it doesn't make any sense lol

It's so stupid to reject the obective definition used by everyone and invent your own language that redefines words.... and then your own is so bad that it doesn't make a lick of coherent sense and is completely inadequate

It is clearly not the definition used by everyone, or else we'd see it used a lot more.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Because you literally begged me to answer your question... and I was in this topic before you lol.

Also because I want you to stop being so weird and insultign victims.

ONCE AGAIN: Point to where I insulted victims. Actually insulted. Not the objective observation that if you claim to be an assault victim when you haven't been assaulted you're getting mocked by the general populace.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Indeed and that sucks.

It sucks that Will Smith wasn't arrested due to elitism, it sucks his ban wasn't permanent, it sucks that people want it reduced and it sucks that people like yourself are trying to downplay it.

I disagree that the event merited a permanent ban. That seems a very strange overreaction.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Trust me, if this was a court case you'd find out just how "insane" all these people are who use the basic legal (and common parlence) definitions of words are to criminals who commit crimes.

You might almost say that words matter.

They do matter! Which is why your insistence on putting them in my mouth is very tiresome. Do better, please.

UnfairRepresent posted...

"If someone stole my car here and drove away. It's a bad thing but it's not Grand Theft Auto. It would only be Grand Theft Auto if the car was more valuable. I laugh at people whose cheap crappy cars get stolen. A dude who says he's a victim of GTA because someone stole his KIA deserves mockery. A GTA victim is someone who has their Rolls-Royce stolen "

It's such a f***ing bizarre thing to say, completely incorrect, completely pointless and insulting.

Makes me wonder why in the holy hell you saying it.

except...that analogy doesn't work.

So the core premise of your argument is that you cannot actually read. Got it.

oh, they do this a lot, then? Noted.

Voidgolem posted...

It is clearly not the definition used by everyone, or else we'd see it used a lot more.

but we do?

Millions of people every day? Every lawfirm (english speaking) in the world? The dictionary? The people in the room when it happened?

What the fuck are you on about....

ONCE AGAIN: Point to where I insulted victims. Actually insulted. Not the objective observation that if you claim to be an assault victim when you haven't been assaulted you're getting mocked by the general populace.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80723760/979422461

And no, the general populace will not mock someone for being slapped in the face and having threats and profanities yelled at them by a lunatic.

They'd also all call it assault. Since it's about as textbook assault as you can get. If someone asked me to make up a hypothetical example of assault, it would pretty much be that.

I disagree that the event merited a permanent ban. That seems a very strange overreaction.

It's what would happen to anyone else

They do matter! Which is why your insistence on putting them in my mouth is very tiresome. Do better, please.

except...that analogy doesn't work.

So the core premise of your argument is that you cannot actually read. Got it.

I still can't tell if this is trolling "Lol look at me I'm projecting so hard about all the things I'm doing"

But either way I don't get it

if you're just pretending to be so bizarre that you ignore objective reality just to mock assault victims while screaming everyone else is doing what you're doing... That's even worse than doing it because you legitimately believe it

Either way:

An assault is the illegal act of causing physical harm or unwanted physical contact to another person, or, in some legal definitions, the threat or attempt to do so.

make a physical attack on.
"he pleaded guilty to assaulting a police officer"

noun
noun: assault; plural noun: assaults

a physical attack.

"his imprisonment for an assault on the film director"

That's the definition

"An act that results in lasting physical or mental trauma."

It's just factually incorrect and also silly. Your own absurd example of "Someone bumping into you in the subway" could cause physical or mental trauma.

A brutal beatdown by 9 people could result no lasting physical or mental trauma. Yoselle Greenstein was once assaulted by a gang of Anti-semites. He won the fight and beat them all up.

By your logic he assaulted them because they all got injured and he didn't.

Hell if Will Smith had broken his hand when he slapped Rock, by your logic, now Rock assaulted Smith.

As we covered earlier going "It's not assault now but if Rock turned out to have brain damaged then it now retroactively would be assault that I laughed at him for." is bananas.

Stick the correct definition literally everyone else in the world uses.

There's really nothing else I can say here. Trolling or not you're now just going "Actually reality doesn't matter." which there is no response to.