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I feel like it should be noted that the leaders of the most successful activist movement in recent US history, the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's, were very concerned with optics. Their actions were all carefully stage managed to appeal to the broadest possible audience. Rosa Parks was specifically chosen for the Montgomery bus boycott for example, because she was considered very appealing and sympathetic, as opposed to another woman who was a single mother. The activists knew how their opponents would respond and attempted to address those issues with their approach.

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I can see this leading to a (continued) rise in prominence for boutique theaters like Alamo Drafthouse that focus more on a complete "experience" with dinner and drinks served during the movie. Maybe even bring back entire evening programs, with shorts and double features all being included in the ticket price.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Of course they won't eliminate it entirely but do you seriously see as much for single video games and TV shows as much as you do for any given Marvel movie? Those ad campaigns are inescapable, they tie in with so much shit.

For Marvel sure, but there's not much on par with Marvel in terms of advertising. I live in the NYC area and overall I see way more billboards/subway advertisements for TV programs than I do for movies.

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I mean, I see tons of "in person" advertising for television and video games as well, so I don't know that this would eliminate that much of the marketing costs.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/sonam_sheth/status/1334314029649694734

Amazing

I'm not sure I follow the logic here. If she thinks that all Chinese people look the same, how would requiring ID help? If anything it would make the situation worse for her.

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The Featured Picture today is pretty great though, tbf.

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Did you know ...

that music critic Greg Kot described "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang" as "despicable misogyny", but listed it among his guilty pleasures because the "rawwwk doesn't get much rawer"?

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Cheap Trick - The Flame

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Gladys Knight & the Pips - Midnight Train to Georgia
Quad City DJs - C'mon N Ride It (The Train)

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Out of curiosity, I went to this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Actress

to see how they were addressing this, and I see that they have changed the name in the table to Elliot Page, although I don't know if this will stand as it seems to contradict what was done on the 1976 Summer Olympics page, where the decision was made to keep Bruce Jenner as the listed winner of the decathlon. Thoughts?


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Corrik7 posted...

What is so dire about his personal situation? Lol

He has hundreds of millions (maybe just tens of millions?) of dollars in loans that are about to come due, and now that he is no longer President the IRS will make a final decision on their audit of the massive tax refunds he took during the Great Recession, which he might also be forced to partly pay back.

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Peace

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Carly Simon - You're So Vain
Bob Marley - Redemption Song

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Turkey

Just thought of Thanksgiving food in general.

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You can see family and friends without having to have a 10-15 person Thanksgiving/Christmas dinner though. Just have smaller groups meet up instead. I agree that there are people who are very dismissive of how lockdowns can effect people's mental helath, and who are being very unhelpful in trying to find ways to work with others and come up with safe ways to go on living and keep everyone from losing it.

However, that is not what's going on with these large affairs. Is someone's mental health going to deteriorate because they only saw 2 of their cousins this holiday season instead of all 7? Is someone's mental health going to deteriorate because they drove to Thanksgiving instead of flying? Is someone's mental health going to deteriorate because they can't kiss Grandma on the cheek and stay a safe distance away from her at some family dinner? No, of course not, and the fact that people can't be bothered to take such relatively simple precautions belies what their true motivations are.

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Sofi de la Torre - Vermillion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhD9ZpW5h-8

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It's really stupid that fun entry is the default option though. Like, why? I don't think it used to be that way, and it's perfectly logical to assume that it would not be. I actually made the same mistake myself once, although it ended up not mattering.

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Adventures of Winnie the Pooh

Someone mentioned it in that theme song topic a day or two ago.

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Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes
Dolly Parton - Jolene

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Carole King - So Far Away

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Toyota

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National Geographic Theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdHhyTnjpQ

Soul Train Theme - "The Sound of Philadelphia":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB17o8n5jjI

NBC Nightly News - "The Mission":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAzc-P9uMpI


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Man, this will really put a damper on Ricky Schroeder's car-

Oh wait, never mind!

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Great analysis of Lindsey Graham by Hilton Als:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHt8UnoBbu2/

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnR0_BiXMAclNoF?format=jpg&name=small

Umm...Did Dinesh D'Souza not see how that movie ended?

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Starcraft

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Jeopardy and Match Game are still in, so I don't see the problem. Family Feud went out too early, but the Steve Harvey seasons are so horrible it's understandable.

The Utility Man posted...

To be fair, I don't think we're even choosing the winners in most of these either. lol

On this note, has a mod or someone been alerted to the stuffer? I know that it probably sounds petty, but stuffing the same person's polls day after day for two straight years has to count as Harassment, no?

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This is true all across society/culture, and has led to a much more fractured world. There is so much media to consume that people just go for what is most familiar to them personally. I know that this has been blamed on people becoming more biased in general, which is true, however I believe the chain of causation in that claim is reversed. The original impetus here was pragmatism/the paradox of choice: "There's so much to choose from, why don't I just stick to my favorite?" and this has in turn led to people becoming more biased in general.

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red sox 777 posted...

There's a statute that Congress passed that says that if the House and Senate disagree, whichever set of electoral votes certified by the state's governor controls. But I think there's a good argument that that statute is itself unconstitutional, as the Constitution clearly gives sole power to choose electors to the legislatures, and doesn't give any authority to the governors.

Supposing that SCOTUS finds that statute unconstitutional, and the House and Senate deadlock, I guess the next question is whether the House has to vote on a new President. If they do, they would vote 1 vote per state so Trump would win. But supposing the Democrats flee DC and try to deny the House a quorum? I think the Senate chooses the Vice President, so they vote for Pence as VP (or, if this is all planned before the electors vote, at least one of the R electors switches his VP vote from Pence to Trump and the Senate can vote for Trump as VP directly).

Then inauguration day comes without a new President, so the newly elected Vice President (either Trump or Pence depending on how well this is planned) becomes President.

But this is all so antithetical to our democratic tradition that it's hard to imagine this working. Much like the Queen dissolving Parliament and ruling from the throne.

The VP Senate vote is only between the Top 2, so you'd need the majority of GOP electors for that.

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The House has to accept the Electoral College Votes, correct? If so, I don't see what the point of the Republican legislatures changing the electors is even if they succeeded. The House would refuse to accept the results, would appoint Joe Biden Speaker, and he gets inaugurated on 01/20 anyway.

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Brad Pitt

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The reason why we're discussing "Defund the police" instead of Democratic candidate messaging is because the former is the topic of conversation at the moment. We've discussed candidate messaging on previous occasions, and now we're discussing this. What's the problem?

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I mean, I'm completely sympathetic to the cause and when I first heard the phrase "Defund the police" I assumed it meant to remove funds entirely. That is how the word "defund" is used in common parlance, regardless of what the dictionary definition might be.

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Happy Veteran's Day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujBYvVLevXk

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red sox 777 posted...

TBQH, the way the media and Twitter have handled this is really awful. Even if there is no evidence of any fraud, the way they are censoring people claiming there is fraud looks awful. At some point, one needs to treat censorship as a confession. So when Twitter includes a message below a Trump tweet saying "there is no evidence of this" one can read that to actually say "we confess this is completely accurate." Same with the media - it's not your job to decide if evidence is credible. Report the evidence, and the public will decide that. If you insist on not reporting what the evidence and making the conclusory statement that it is not credible, the next step is for the public to infer that the evidence is credible and even compelling.

And if it's actually not, well, that's your fault for reporting in a way that that is the most reasonable inference the public can draw.

Determining the credibility of statements of public figures should literally be one of the media's core jobs, but please go ahead carrying water for these fascist attacks on the "enemy of the people."

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I've always heard that Mickey Mouse gets plenty of write in votes each year. Were the people saying that just full of s***?

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Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


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Never Say Never Again

Why?

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The issue with the polls seemed to be the turnout numbers they were estimating among white working class males. At least that's what I heard initially. The areas where Democrats met their numbers were all areas where there was big GOTV effort on the Democrat's part to counteract that.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/normative/status/1326035765646807040

Absolutely correct imo. The GOP thought they could control the crazy, and at the end of the day they were helpless as it became Trump's party.

Mainstream conservatives never learn. The planter class thought they could control the secessionists. They couldn't. The German conservatives thought they could control the Nazis. They couldn't. And so on and so forth.

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https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/15/07/65/20217186/3/1200x0.jpg

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Truly a prophetic work:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e3/Network_%281976_poster%29.png/220px-Network_%281976_poster%29.png

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Can a foreign news agency call it at least? Does the BBC rely on the AP, et al for its numbers?

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

I always felt like Trump was like L Block. At first his results were only so-so and were taking advantage of his hardcore support to stay alive in multi way polls. But, his power grew over time until he was strong enough to start winning. Due to all the mailed ballot counting timing, I think he even had L Block like trends in some states this year.

So does that make Biden Pikachu? A much worse performance than you'd expect based on name recognition in his first runs, goes away for a while, then comes back and cleans up.

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Navajo Nation precincts in Arizona voted 97% for Biden.

..Maybe. I'm having trouble finding a link to any solid numbers that back this up, other than what's in the linked article, which seems to conflate the precincts and the counties they are in.

https://twitter.com/guprofbc/status/1324727990438211584

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxjm8egW_wk

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Let's get that dang Clark County drop from NV already.

Remember that Fox News already called AZ and is sticking by it (I don't think either MSNBC or CNN have called AZ). If NV drops a big one that kills Trump, I'd be looking at Fox News to call the election first, which would be... so goddamn good.

Every possible scenario for calling the election is great:

NV: Fox has to call it first
PA: Biden's birth state
GA: A huge achievement

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL3EZwSJAh0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3nPLfG9gZY

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red sox 777 posted...

I've only heard of two of those people, and I was speaking about non-politicians. That said, did these politicians ever call out their co-partisans on the left for making such statements? Did other Democrats?

What statements are you referring to? Random comments online? Of course public figures aren't responding to those. When it comes to more prominent incidents, I have plenty of examples.

Kathy Griffin was condemned by left moderates, including politicians, for that picture with Trump's head. Michelle Wolf was heavily criticized by left moderates for her speech at the White House Correspondent's dinner.

I've read articles by Kelefa Sanneh criticizing White Fragility and by Zadie Smith (admittedly not an American, but published in an American magazine) debating attacks on cultural appropriation.

There was an open letter published in Harper's this summer and signed by numerous intellectuals, many of them moderate/liberal criticizing the rise in cancel culture online.

This is all rather scattershot, but without having any actual examples to go off of, I'm just doing what I have off the top of my head.


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