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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Wigs has single handedly turned me into a Mets hater tbh.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2019/02/05/cubs-joe-ricketts-racists-emails-islamophobic-backlash/2782712002/

https://twitter.com/DanCGoldberg/status/1215004013390913544?s=19


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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Yeah they've never been one to go for the experienced manager type though. I think it would be a bad idea to get someone with 0 familiarity with the team so far. It should be someone from within or someone they got to final interview stages with.

Either way they'll fuck it up because everything the wilpons do they fuck up

Too bad the media didnt fucking go after their throats

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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The media turned this into a mets story when it had nothing to do with the mets. MLB decided to not punish beltran or any players. The Wilpons are cowards for not standing by their guy.

Fuck the Astros/Red Sox for cheating & getting the Mets caught in this when they had nothing to do with this shit, & for getting a WS out of the scandal while the Mets just get the scandal. Fuck the media for blowing this out of proportion and being THE reason Beltran was let go.

And FUCK THE WILPONS for botching this situation so badly.

Again. MLB fully cleared every Astros player. There was absolutely no reason for this at all.

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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This is 100% the media's fault. They pushed the fuck out of this and it got beltran "fired". Now do you see why I get so fucking angry all the time that the media covers up and underreports the wilpons bullshit? If the media put any kind of fucking pressure at all on the wilpons and called them out they would've been gone fucking years ago. If they put the same effort they put into this beltran shit as they put into the every fucking criminal thing the wilpons do?

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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Beltran just stepped down. Official. It's unfair the mets got dragged into this bullshit.
The Mets being thrown into a state of chaos due to a cheating scandal that didnt even benefit them is truly something else.

This sucks. Unfair to the Mets that its come to this, that they were so greatly affected by a cheating scenario they had nothing to do with and a then-player had to step down from a now-managerial role completely unrelated to his actions.

I think on the other hand, it's not like he was a long tenured veteran manager they needed to protect and not having to deal with a cloud like this potentially looming all season could've been a bad distraction. Having to get a new manager on short term notice will hurt though.

Ok well now unless you want to have double standards, every 2017 Astros player needs to be released from their respective teams right? Sorry JD Davis even though you only had like 60 AB that year.

Oh gerrit cole is a pitcher? Sorry you knew about it. Time for the Yankees to punish you and what a bad look if they dont!!!!

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

It'll be a shame is Beltran gets fired. I was looking forward to seeing him manage the Mets. I assumed there was no way they'd fire him for his role in the scandal, but apparently they're really struggling to find a way to address it. It's not looking good for Carlos.

The media is also big time to blame here for blowing this way out of proportion just because his name was dropped in the report in an innocuous way. But there's also no reason for them to be as over protective of him as they would be if they had a veteran 10+ year manager. I would've liked to see him too but it would suck to deal with the daily ramifications of this as a fan, even if I think everyone is wrong about this- he's being labeled as a "ringleader" when it appears to be that is blatantly not true, unless there's something we don't know. That was never said anywhere, and yet it's being reported as such by the NY media. They're upset Beltran lied to the media (which he did) and then told the truth to MLB, so they're dragging him and trying to force him out (and it's working apparently)

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Emeraldegg posted...

I was under the impression that they namedropped him because he was the one instance of a guy who's in a manager spot now, but was also a player at the time of the incidents, rather than naming him as a sort of implication of guilt, so they felt the need to clarify why they weren't going to punish him.

I haven't read the whole statement so maybe I"m just wildly wrong but that was the impression I got just reading conversation and tweets about it.

My guess was that was why they named him but really it's just a guess. MLB was super irresponsible to name him haphazardly as they did without context. It's like they singled him out but they didn't explain why (which leads me to believe it was just because they said "....players did things (including Beltran)" to specify they considered him a player, not a manager.

Either way, this situation reallyfucking sucks for the Mets. While I believe firing him is the stupid and wrong thing to do because it makes no sense unless other then-players also getpenalized... like why should Beltran be penalized by his team, not MLB, while Altuve, Correa, Gurriel, Cole, Verlander, Marisnick, etc etc all get off scot-free?

On the other hand, if they do decide to keep him, this is going to be such a fucking distraction all year long. it's going to come up and be asked basically daily and it's just going to leave an annoying cloud over the whole season.

And the sad part is none of this at all came of the Mets doing. The Red Sox and Astros were the ones who cheated- and got rightly punished- and yet the Mets have to suffer the consequences of their cheating as well even though they were not involved whatsoever with this- they hired Beltran well before this came out. It's a lose-lose situation for them, both decisions involve more bad than good, and for once they're in a shit situation that was not their fault at all- they're being punished for something they didn't do. And of course, they haven't made a decision yet and they always let shit like this fester. Also awful of MLB for them to put a gag order on everyone about this, so the Mets basically won't even be allowed to make a statement it sounds like unless they directly are saying they're keeping or firing.

This all really sucks. Fuck the Astros and Red Sox. They cheated and got World Series wins and a scandal. The Mets just got the scandal part.

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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Meow1000 posted...

So the Sox did the proactive thing and fired Cora

The Mets aren't firing Beltran until its hilariously too late because Mets right

Mets should fire Beltran takes are hilariously awful. Whether or not you agree, MLB absolved all the players and none are being punished. Why should the Mets punish Beltran in light of MLB saying they are not at fault? Further I'd you think the Mets should do something despite MLB saying they're ok, then it follows that you think every other former or current Astro who may or may not possibly have been involved should also be punished no matter what team they're on right?

Like this is absolutely brutally bad take to think he should be fired as a Met for something he did as an Astro when MLB already cleared it. Feel free to not like the fact he, or any Astro participated in the scheme cuz it sucks that this happened but it makes literally 0 sense for him to get fired over it unless you are going to suspend or "fire" every Astros player which is stupid. The coaches and higher ups are the ones at fault here. The players were likely just following orders

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https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/ek9zmz/agdq_vod_thread_2020/

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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And yeah cora is gonna get destroyed

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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Luhnow and Hinch will just get another job at some point, not sure why everyone think no one is shameless enough to do it.

I think the punishment is severe enough though the cash fine should've been way more than 5M. That's the limit a team can be fined via the CBA but that rule is dumb .

Also it's probably fair enough to not fine any players over this because as the bottom of the totem pole it's too stringy to say who was going along with this because they felt they had to for fear of getting cut or something. Limiting punishment to people of power makes sense but the players , Beltran included, should at least have to face some kind of smaller punishment I think. Make them all attend cheating is bad seminars (lol) and do community service and public apologies and all that. Like a slap on the wrist but it's better than nothing at all.


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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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hooooooo

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tag to actually read all this when im back from the magfest

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bumpo

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Bros bros bros

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<B>Switch to Cardinals</B>

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Level 7
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Level 4 TB: Redskins +10.5, Eagles -4.5

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Tiebreaker: 8
Tiebreaker 2: 290

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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yea lots of teams have done nothing at all really. A lot of them aren't trying to (or claiming to) compete this year, Cubs aren't one of those obv. There's also "trying to" unload talent and actually doing it so that all still remains to be seen.
The Mets are one of many teams that are worse off this year than the end of last year so far.

but hey if I were a Cubs fan I'd have the thing I've been waiting my whole life for and I would not be complaining (I just mean this honestly not as a putdown or anything)

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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omg the mets signed betances after all an actual good thing

ok keep going

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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seems like they are pursuing Price in a trade also

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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Ryu to the Jays. 4/80. A steal at that price. Truly embarrassing the Mets weren't in on that instead of Porcello or whatever

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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yup. something the mets should've been in on instead of overpaying porcello especially since they saved like all of cespedes' contract~~~~

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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QB jackson
RB chubb
WR hopkins

bonus seahawks/packers

tiebreaker level 6 - packers -0.5

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I did cuz why not, but I don't get the flu either way.

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profDEADPOOL posted...

Didn't she die to send him a message, and that message is why Rey was able to kill him(if she didn't heal him right after doing so)? That's what I thought happened in that scene, because Leia's voice is what distracted Ben in the fight...

Ohhh that makes way more sense. The way it was set up, it was right after Rey "kills" him so I thought it was some kind of tie to that

Murphiroth posted...

As for Jedi voices there was Yoda, Anakin, Obi-Wan (both actors), Qui-Gon, Mace Windu, Aayla Secura, Luminara Unduli, Adi Gallia, Ahsoka Tano, and Kanan Jarrus. So a mix of main characters from the PT and OT, background Jedi from the PT, and two characters from TCW and Rebels.

Ahh I'll have to listen for at least some of the ones I recognize on a 2nd view


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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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i thought it was pretty obvious that the Chewie death was a fake out when it happened if only because you didnt physically see him die. That scene was still great though, when she unexpectedly uses the force lightning

Stormtroopers getting mind tricked was funny again like it was in TFA

I kind of missed who the female bounty hunter was, her relation to Poe and why she was so willing to help given what appeared to be her situation on a heavy sith planet

And Leia dying from thinking Ben was killed only to have him revived like 5 seconds later. Should've waited before making assumptions tbh.

Anyway it had its flaws but still the best of the 3 imo. Carrie got top billing which was cool

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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I was wondering if any of those jedi voices were actual identifiable Jedi from other medium. other than Yoda obviously. Like was Obi wan's voice in there? Or someone from anything else besides the main series?

I laughed thinking about how C3PO was built to not be able to read Sith... by kid Anakin!?

Han's appearance was great, nostalgia bomb be damned

Why did the other systems all of a sudden respond to the distress signal now, but not in TLJ during that battle?

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

That's pretty fucking pathetic of the Mets then. Will be even worse if he signs with the Phillies.

I'm surprised there's been nothing about the Yankees having any interest in signing him. Most fans want him back. And while the Yankees do have a strong bullpen, Betances makes them even better than 2019's bullpen since he never really got a chance to pitch. Assuming he's healthy for 2020 of course.

Yeah at 10M 1 year that's worth a shot for really any team to take a shot on. Contender or not

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WiggumFan267 posted...

without making a single MLB signing for the bullpen

Just realized I should clarify cuz they did sign brach to a small mlb deal (and this deal is fine but more is needed obv) but he was there last year, I meant a MLB addition (either sign or trade but theres no need to trade for relievers yet for them...).

But hey CHASEN SHREVE IS HERE. and I assume matz is going to wind up in the bullpen or traded because they are dumb. Given they have 6 sps the only options are: move one to bullpen (Wacha said they already told him he was a starter but could be lying), trade one, or 6 man rotation. I hate all these options except for like Porcello/Wacha in the bullpen ain't happening

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Mets reportedly have no interest in Betances as he wants a 1 year 10M deal. Which is really not much at all especially considering they just fell into $60M. How the fuck are these people allowed to own a team again?

The mets are going into 2020 with the worst bullpen era in franchise history (and only 5th worst in MLB in 2019 because juiced balls but...), without making a single MLB signing for the bullpen. While claiming you are trying to win. Like, the fuck?

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RaidenGarai posted...

ran into one with the Mets suggesting Edwin Diaz

nope

trading Diaz right now would be one of the dumbest things they could do, since he's at such low value right now. that would also be the front office admitting defeat and their egos are way too big to ever do that anyway, so I have no idea what rumors youre reading, but this sounds more like someone's cooked up idea lol

also thats way way too much anyway. I ain't trading anything valuable for a reliever, period. Smith is one of the guys they are most likely to trade though for the reason you said yes, if teams see sufficient value in him, which I am not sure I would because he's such a valuable bench piece and those are important as you said. But if you can get a valuable enough piece for him, then do it.
Generally tho from a depth point of view, they really are not in a place to be trading anything away from the MLB team, but they kind of have to given their budget constraints EVEN THOUGH THEY JUST WINDFELL INTO 25M LAST YEAR AND ANOTHER 20M THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE CESPEDES RENEGOTIATED CONTRACT AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO REINVEST IT BECAUSE FUCK

also, I do value personality because this is the team I am rooting for and I want to like them, and I really would have a hard time with Hader on my team. And Dom is one of the more likeable guys on the team, I'm still dealing him where it makes sense but it makes me sad

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

The Mets should probably focus on building a bullpen of solid relievers instead of making another trade for one elite piece.

yes, they need 1-2 "solid" pieces to build around, but they're mostly gone already, because this front office doesn't care about winning at all. It's not like these solid BP guys getting signed are ultra expensive or anything and like I said they JUST GAINED LIKE 25M IN "LUXURY TAX" CAP ROOM THAT THEY CONVENIENTLY WAITED TO ANNOUNCE UNTIL EVERYONE MEANINGFUL SIGNED and also any statement about the luxury tax being a determent is fucking horseshit anyway since its only like a 20% penalty if you're < 10M over... and also the Mets salary as we already know is fudged to make it look better than it actually is- so the Wilpons can claim they are a top spending team when in reality they are bottom 3rd.

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2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Level 7
pass garoppolo
receive godwin
rush d. henry

bonus: Shaquil Barrett

tiebreaker Level 6
Rams -7.5

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2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

https://twitter.com/jaseidler/status/1205613046187675649?s=19

*thinky face*
(Sorry for going back and forth between accounts btw... was easier to do Twitter links from my phone for now)

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Here if you want the post btw

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1205598295655141376?s=19

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Like my team just said they are done adding bullpen to the worst bullpen in baseball because they added 2 pieces who have been part of the bullpen the last 3 years and they weren't even a resign or anything. Like it's just a blatant lie. Its mindboggling that he said this and is using it to justify the owners cheapness

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I'm not saying you can't be mad, but almost every time you post it's rehashing the same exact complaints every single time. And quite frankly you are very over-dramatic. I get you're passionate about the Mets and baseball, but it wouldn't hurt to calm down a bit at least.

Also I may be a Yankees fan, but I want to see the Mets win too. I can't say I want to see them win as badly as you do, but obviously I want my dad to see his team win a World Series again too.

Sorry man. What can I say. I need to vent it often.

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Old complaints, new reasons to spur on those old complaints

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

The mets overachievedast year at 86 games mostly because they didnt suffer much in the way of major injuries. Now the starting rotation has been downgraded a ton and the rest of the team is basically the same. Dont forget the FO tried to say Stroman replaced Wheeler when they were literally both in the same rotation at the same time for the 2nd half.

If the mets have an average amount of Injury luck last year (average for MLB, not the mets) they probably win 83 or 84 last year. 86 happened under best case scenario circumstances.

So this year I'd say best case/no injury scenario is 84 but they're gonna have some more injuries and the other NLE teams are all better (except the Nats so far but I bet they're not done) so as of right now I put them at 80 wins. Which would be unacceptable given the level of talent they have with some.of these guys but that's the way it is these days. I guess I shouldn't be mad about that though, right?

Like you look at cole and strasburg deals vs degroms and tell me you cant build a winner around that? The only way that's possible is if you're not trying to win.

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Also Porcello isn't that bad. He's not necessarily good either, but I imagine he's going to bounce back this year.

The move makes.more sense if you have other better signings to balance ce it out except the acquisition made and next years outlook ENTIRELY relies on like 7 different people having bounceback years. Porcello. Wacha. Diaz. Familia. Cano. Cespedes. Lowrie. (Assuming they dont offload Lowries contract with a high end prospect for the express purpose of not having to pay him). That's not how you operate a team if you're legitimately trying to win.

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neonreaper posted...

MLBs new drug program sounds good at first glance - they test but only punish if the player doesnt stick to a treatment program

Agreed, maybe the first good thing Manfred has done in his tenure

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I'd be surprised if they didn't get any relievers at all. They're not necessarily going to get anyone good though.

https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1205176095470784512?s=19

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Man you are the most insufferable baseball fan I've ever seen.

If they're still being cheap and making bad decisions when Cohen's tenure as owner kicks in then I can understand the constant whining. But for now, what's the point? You know they're not going to do what you want them to do.

Also Porcello isn't that bad. He's not necessarily good either, but I imagine he's going to bounce back this year.

Are you asking what's the point in whining about having someone who owns your team not give a fuck about winning? So you're saying g mets fans should just be cool they have owners and a GM lying to everyone and selling a garbage product trying to pass it off as competitive , cheaping out year in and year out for the last 20 some years, and not being smart with the money they do choose to spend?

Why the fuck should I not be fucking mad about that? This coming from a Yankees fan? You have no fucking idea what it's like. You dont have to fucking deal with this. You dont have to have it fucking depress you and affect your mood because you dont have to ever worry about it and winning just comes natural . You've gotten to experience the joy several times I've been dying for for over 30 years.

I want to see my team win for once in my goddamn life. Each year they're owned by these miserable piles of shit makes that less and less likely. I dont want to just fucking punt the next 5 years of this. Why shouldn't I fucking complain about my team that doesnt try to win and finds new ways to sink to new lows every day?


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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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Mets had the worst bullpen era in franchise history. Didnt add at the deadline last year. Didnt add anyone in the offseason this year. They say " were not gonna add anyone because last year it was too volatile. We're good with not changing anything in what was the worst bullpen we've ever had and still claiming we would like to compete while the rest of our team got worse and everyone else got better"

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https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1205180391566409729?s=19

Now They are literally saying they are done adding relievers when they have not added anyone of note and had literally the worst all time bullpen era in franchise history because "we experienced volatility in the market last year"

AGAIN. THEY HAD THE WORST BULLPEN ERA IN FRANCHISE HISTORY LAST YEAR. AND DID NOTHING TO FIX IT AT THE DEADLINE DESPITE LYING TO THE FANBASE AND SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO COMPETE TO JUSTIFY NOT TRADING WHEELER AND SIGNING STROMAN AND NOT FIXING THE BULLPEN.

and now they CONTINUE TO SAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO FIX THE BULLPEN?????????
WHAT THE FUCK???????

again. they do. Not. Care. About. Winning.
Not. One. Fucking. Bit. This is literally proof positive. The Wilpons simply do not want to invest any more money in this team because they are going to sell in 5 years (maybe). So this is a huge fucking conflict of interest to allow guys to own the team who have a fucking exit strategy. There is no reason even, less than before, for the wilpons to want to spend on this team.

This is why this should not be a 5 year plan. This should be NOW. How can MLB allow someone to continue to own a team when they know they are going to sell in years?? What kind of sense does that make??????

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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
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Porcello is an awful pitcher as is Wacha so it's awful when you fucking say you are trying to compete for 2020 and are all in and your response to that is to significantly downgrade your team while the rest of the entire division significantly improves

THEY'RE NOT FUCKING INTERESTED IN BETANCES BECAUSE THEY ARE CHEAP FUCKS WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THIS TO UNDERSTAND?????

THEY. DO. NOT. CARE. ABOUT. THE. TEAM. AT. ALL.

THEY. DO. NOT. CARE. ABOUT. WINNING.

Look at this fucking shit:

https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/1205176095470784512?s=19

THE GUYS WHO WERE IN THE BULLPEN ALL YEAR ARE "BULLPEN ADDITIONS" SO WE DONT NEED TO ADD ANYONE ELSE

Stop trying to defend these moves. They are not defensible in anyway for a team in the biggest market in the world that acts like it's on a Kansas City budget and is also fucking morons to boot


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~Wigs~ 3-Time Consecutive Fantasy B8 Baseball Champion
2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

Well my worst nightmares have come alive. They signed porcello for 10M. the wacha deal doesnt look bad now, instead this one does. THIS is the one I hate.

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2015 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION NEW YORK METS

thank god he's out of the NL East. That's literally the best move the Mets 'made' this offseason

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