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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 11:11:25 PM
#25
Paratroopa1 posted...
Forgive me for suggesting that a man who has completely reshaped all of a single party's politics around him might have the ability to sway people

Who has he swayed, exactly? Who, on the right, can you say with a straight face wasn't already there, or altleast willing to be if needbe?

I'll just have to agree to disagree, I guess. If we're dumbing "charismatic" down to mean "You say what the crowd wants to hear and they eat it up because they want to hear it, even if they'll turn on you in no time flat the second you stop saying exactly what they want to hear," then the entire Republican party is charismatic.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 11:06:56 PM
#20
Paratroopa1 posted...
That's literally how charisma works

I wouldn't say it's necessarily charisma, since being charismatic means more than people liking how you speak, but it does show he's atleast somewhat of an actual good speaker, since part of public speaking is tailoring your message to your audience. I'd argue not all good speakers are charismatic, but all charismatic people are good speakers. You can objectively be a good speaker, but if you fail to actually sway or make any meaningful connection with your audience, you're not charismatic.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 10:48:58 PM
#15
Honestly, thinking about it further, I think the intense rise we've seen in MAGA candidates also goes pretty far to show there's no actual charisma needed. There are countless of these types all over the country, getting the same reactions Trump gets, from the same people, by saying the same things. Are every single one of them charismatic? No, of course not. They're picking up the playbook because it's so easy, frankly. And not all of them are winning because, like Trump, they lack the actual charisma to sway people to their side that aren't already there.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 10:30:21 PM
#13
TheRock1525 posted...
Trump is very charismatic but absolutely is a bad speaker by any metric.

If I was going to make any concession whatsoever, I'd actually say Trump's a better speaker than he is charismatic, since he speaks in a way that his audience relates to.

Being charismatic means you can make people atleast okay with, if not outright for, something they don't want to hear. It means you can sway an audience, it means you can bring them around to your side through pure charm, wit, and what have you.

Trump had failed that numerous times, and the audience has shown a straight up willingness to turn on him for somebody who will continue to say what they want to hear, so I can never be convinced he's charismatic. Any time Trump has said something counter to what his audience wanted to hear, he tucked tail and backpedaled as hard as possible once they booed him. That's not charisma. Somebody charismatic holds onto their viewpoint and convinces everybody else to accept it, or atleast not reject it. He has never been able to do that, he has only ever resonated with people who already hold the same viewpoint.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 10:25:45 PM
#11
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Not to defend Trump or anything, but you can pretty much say the same about any politician. Bernie Sanders is only popular because of all the college dropouts that love to hear him talk about "erasing" student debts

I don't think Bernie's charismatic either, no. Actual charismatic politicians are, indeed, rare.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 10:24:58 PM
#9
KamikazePotato posted...
Do you honestly think, say, Ted Cruz would have been able to convince idiots to relate to him, even if he said the exact same thing Trump did?

Yes, actually, 100%.

If Trump stopped saying exactly what they wanted to hear, and if he stopped backpedaling as fast as possible every time he said something they didn't like, they'd 1000% dump his ass for a Cruz or DeSantis who ARE saying what they want to hear.

Again, a charismatic leader leads an audience, not the other way around.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 7:07:56 PM
#498
Like, let's be real, here. The Rock didn't get known for saying "it actually matters what you think a lot and I'm sorry for upsetting you, Austin is actually a pretty standup guy that you all clearly admire and I was wrong based on your reactions to me."

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 7:05:14 PM
#496
KamikazePotato posted...
Trump has a lot of charisma. It's just not the kind of charisma that appeals to you.

I think it's the opposite. He has no charisma unless he's saying something that directly appeals to you.

Charisma doesn't just mean you speak well, it means you can inspire thoughts/actions/etc. in others. Any time Trump deviated from things his crowds wanted to hear (such as when he was pushing the vaccine), they immediately turned on him, and instead of him inspiring them, they caused him to backtrack and change what he was saying. Somebody with charisma drives their audience, not the other way around.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/15/22 7:01:59 PM
#494
Dancedreamer posted...
Trump definitely has no charisma. As long as he's saying something they like, the right will follow him off a cliff. But when he promoted the vaccine, they booed him relentlessly.

This feels like the most telling thing. He proved completely and utterly unable to move his followers unless he says exactly what they want to hear.

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TopicI'm jumping from Android to iPhone.
StealThisSheen
06/14/22 8:21:52 PM
#52
The idea that Android devices never become obsolete is laughable. They absolutely do, if not literally, then atleast functionally. As an app developer that works on both iOS and Android apps, I've had to countless times dig through legacy code to rip out and/or rewrite code that no longer works in new Android versions, which often times will break things for older versions. You're literally at the mercy of the manufacturer, pretty much all of them cut off support after a few years, and only recently have they actually started to get close or match Apple's standard.

You're either being incredibly generous with the definition of "works," or very dishonest if you're trying to argue "I can turn on my 10 year old Android device and it works" with a straight face.

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TopicAnother 30 seconds of Sonic Frontiers gameplay
StealThisSheen
06/12/22 1:06:12 AM
#105
Yeah, Zippo has a horrible track record and has been banned from numerous communities. I just stopped following it, so I didn't know if anything actually legit surfaced since.

He tends to make his "leaks" and "insider information" from taking known information (spotty communication between SoA/SoJ, the developers having other projects with no Sonic Mania 2 on the schedule, etc.) and makes up shit that people will eat up by filling in blanks that aren't there.

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TopicAnother 30 seconds of Sonic Frontiers gameplay
StealThisSheen
06/12/22 1:00:06 AM
#103
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Yuuuup. Basically, Sega low balled them on a contract concerning them making additional cash based on sales because neither party expected it to sell as well as it did.

And then it did a tremendous amount of sales, and then the DLC did a ton of sales. And Sega refused to give them any further money in exchange for working on future projects. So I don't blame them--there's more money to be had if they make a game from their own studio at this point. It's really sad though because Sega could have fixed everything by giving them a bonus for such a successful project, especially since it was the only positivity Sonic had at the time pre-movie and Sonic Forces being a pile of shit.

Is there an actual source on this? The original story was broke by a known bullshitter, I can't seem to find anything from Christian Whitehead or PagodaWest on the matter, and Headcannon actually even did some work on Origins. There doesn't appear to be any proof Mania 2 was ever even thing.

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TopicPokemon Masters 8 Match-ups Revealed *SPOILERS*
StealThisSheen
06/11/22 11:34:43 PM
#5
Leon's the #1 trainer in the world in the series. He's not losing round 1.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/08/22 6:12:37 PM
#252
Yeah, I'm not sure of the logic behind the Rays thing. Disney can't move, but a baseball team sure can.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/06/22 7:40:56 PM
#149
Also they're getting ready to put forth legislation to ban minors from viewing drag shows.

You know, the important things.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/05/22 5:39:27 PM
#140
In much less important, but amusing and very confusing news, Rittenhouse's newest... grift? is to lie about going to college. In the winter, he claimed he was enrolled to attend in-person at Arizona State, leading ASU to straight up put out a statement saying he hadn't even applied. Now, he made a show of doing a college football style "reveal" that he's going to Texas A&M on the Charlie Kirk Show, prompting Texas A&M to say no, he has never been admitted.

I'm confused what he's gaining from this particular brand of lying.

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TopicStreet Fighter 6 full roster leak with character art SPOILERS
StealThisSheen
06/04/22 5:38:57 PM
#80
Excuse you. Unless Ken scored 4 touchdowns in a single game for Polk High, let's not sully the name of Al Bundy by even comparing them.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
06/03/22 11:13:53 PM
#135
Rep Louie Gohmert on Navarro indictment: "If you're a Republican, you can't even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they're coming after you"

This isn't a paraphrase. This is an actual quote.

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TopicStreet Fighter 6 full roster leak with character art SPOILERS
StealThisSheen
06/03/22 6:31:49 PM
#57
All said, I'm glad the SF2 regulars made the base roster. I love having them in the game, and this way they don't take up DLC slots.

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TopicJohnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial 2
StealThisSheen
06/03/22 5:59:33 PM
#432
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/thisiskyler/status/1532132605696548870?s=21&t=tgbmT7CGxx7-fYr9LkxdFQ

Cool and normal country we have.

I think we need to ignore dipshits like this. It was the correct verdict. Does it suck that stupid people are using it as a rallying cry? Absolutely. But let's be honest, if it went the other way, they'd be doing the same thing, only under the banner of "Johnny was treated unfairly!" Grifters gonna grift no matter what.

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TopicJohnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial 2
StealThisSheen
06/03/22 2:34:55 AM
#365
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
but only one of us is asserting they know the absolute truth, and its not me.

To be fair, while you may not intend to be doing so, you're also doing this by going "It'd be crazy to believe the cop," because then that leaves only one other answer. Definitively removing one of two answers is basically the same as definitively saying one answer is correct.

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TopicJohnny Depp vs. Amber Heard Trial 2
StealThisSheen
05/30/22 9:38:24 PM
#204
Nok_Su_Kow posted...
There's that clip going around with Heard taking notes but her pen hovering just enough to not actually be writing anything down, like a videogame npc in the background, her lawyer looking at it going "wtf is she doing?". Yeah she's a narcissist and putting on a show. To hell with her fake performance, fake defense, fake support.

Good lord, I just saw this. What.

There's also one where she's smirking and giggling and rolling her eyes while her own lawyer is up describing the supposedly absolutely horrific life changing beating that she took.

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TopicFavourite legendary/mythical pokemon? (Champions)
StealThisSheen
05/29/22 5:39:15 PM
#20
Anyhoo, voted Regice because I have a big love for the Regis in general.

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TopicFavourite legendary/mythical pokemon? (Champions)
StealThisSheen
05/29/22 5:38:32 PM
#19
NFUN posted...
?

Maybe assumed Suicune was Ice?

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TopicSomebody's getting married...
StealThisSheen
05/29/22 5:01:40 PM
#27
Congrats!

Rare "SEP being real" moment, but fear of commitment + enjoying being able to be so "no strings attached" has kept me from ever wanting to get tied down. But I'm starting to get older. I need to mature.

It's always nice to see B8ers find happiness!

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
05/28/22 11:14:51 PM
#66
masterplum posted...
Did you. Not have this happen to you before?

Typically when referring to a tragedy, they don't read the names accompanied by a gong that sounds like it's the Hunger Games. It's not the act itself, it's how they went about it.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 389: AR-15 Minutes of Fame
StealThisSheen
05/28/22 10:26:15 PM
#64
masterplum posted...
Is this not just him reading victims names?

Doesn't this happen everywhere?

You can't be serious

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TopicFunniest moment in the MCU? (Spoilers)
StealThisSheen
05/22/22 1:26:05 AM
#31
Johnbobb posted...
actually change my answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr-wOQSUWQk


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TopicChip & Dale Rescue Rangers (spoilers)
StealThisSheen
05/21/22 11:24:59 PM
#33
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Do you know the source of this? I'm curious what their exact wording was.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ugly-sonic-cameo-chip-n-dale-director-says-he-wants-to-thank-the-lawyers/

Its one of my favourite [cameos in the film], he said. I can speak to that. Its one of my favourite things in the movie. And Im very excited for people to see it I dont know what I should, what Im allowed to say [about it]. I think I will actually plead the fifth.
Rescue Rangers features other animated cameos ranging from classic Disney characters to more obscure creations. Speaking broadly about the process of securing them, Schaffer said he wanted to thank the lawyers.
It was super-important to me to get a bunch of third-party cartoons, because if this is going to be some sort of a celebration of animation, it cant just be a celebration of Disney animation, he explained.
The [characters] you see in the movie sometimes we had to try two or three other things before we found one that could be licensed.
It was a process. [] You dont usually come out of a movie and want to thank the lawyers, but we genuinely owe the Disney lawyers for being team players.
[They] super stayed optimistic about it, and really saw the value of the third-party stuff, and they had to really work hard. [] Its easy for me to go, like, Oh, it would be cool if My Little Pony was in the movie, and theyre like, running in the hallways []
But then [the lawyers] have to go call Mattel and pitch them the movie, and tell them its not making fun of [the characters], and then I have to get on, and then blah, blah, blah. So it was a process. But you know, it makes [the movie] so much better.

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TopicChip & Dale Rescue Rangers (spoilers)
StealThisSheen
05/21/22 11:19:16 PM
#31
The director implied "Ugly Sonic" was licensed in some way, but refused to say how, other than saying "I've gotta thank the lawyers for getting me the licenses we got however they had to get them." My guess is they basically unofficially got the okay from Sega/Paramount/etc., with the latter saying they didn't want to be credited so that they wouldn't be officially endorsing it.

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TopicI'm confused about what's supposed to be feminist or sexist.
StealThisSheen
05/21/22 8:02:14 PM
#35
Go away.

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TopicWhich of the two main "anything but" music genres do you least prefer?
StealThisSheen
05/20/22 8:41:01 PM
#27
I don't like both in their purest form, but both are tolerable when mixed with their best compliment.

Like, there are many rap + R&B songs I like, and likewise, there are country + pop songs I like. But I'm not a fan of either in their purest form.

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TopicDo you usually get more or less than the recommended 8 hrs of sleep a night?
StealThisSheen
05/17/22 8:23:00 PM
#8
masterplum posted...
Isn't 8 higher than the recommended adult amount?

The recommended amount is 7-9.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 10:34:12 PM
#243
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Explain how so? Any time a case of police incompetence gets enough mainstream attention, the hammer absolutely gets brought down on them, sometimes to levels that don't make sense given the crime committed. The BLM riots, Jan 6 riot and all the "trucker convoys" over the last 2 years have show that the police are very much scared of people "rising up"

Literally none of that has anything to actually do with what a police union does, other than a police union fighting to keep incompetent police from seeing any kind of consequences.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 10:18:56 PM
#239
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
This is false on a bunch of levels. The "employer/superiors" of the police are the government. Ultimately the employers/superiors of the government are the people.

Which, I'm sure, if you use your noggin, you'll see how that greatly differs from actually having a direct boss/superior that directly controls every day of your working life.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 10:11:06 PM
#236
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
LOL

Here we go with some likely "No true Scotsman" garbage

Normal work unions are designed to protect workers from the predatory practices of their employers/superiors.

Police have no employers/superiors to need to be protected from. They ARE their own boss. Thus, in practice, all a police union does is fight to keep them from being held accountable in court/etc. for their actions.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 9:09:01 PM
#217
masterplum posted...
One dude who wrote an AP article that got rewritten hours later is as much "The Media" as when Republicans say "The media" is out to get them.

The fact that it got redacted and reposted shows people are trying to improve

So I see you're sticking with the "it never happens this is only one occurrence" bit, huh

You're not even trying to pretend you argue in good faith anymore.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 8:50:24 PM
#214
masterplum posted...
In that context it absolutely would be a problem to label an 18 year old differently based on race

But that isn't what happened

But it happens all the time. That's the whole point. This is ANOTHER example of how the media portrays people differently based on race, not the only example.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 6:49:58 PM
#197
There's an ongoing history of the news media using language to make young white people sound more innocent and wayward, while young black people are referred to in ways that make them sound like knowing adult thugs. It goes beyond that, too. The twitter thread goes into pretty good detail. Word choice drives perception.

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TopicBlizzard reveals their diversity tool
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 6:22:24 PM
#196
UltimaterializerX posted...
I wouldnt block Lopen either. Ive removed most people off my list, because lifes too short for that stuff.

Beefing never ends so Ive stopped doing it.

I'd agree, but Lopen has made it painfully clear he's never going to engage with me in good faith, so I've got no need for that. He began posting in this topic not to discuss anything, but to mock me in hopes of starting a fight, which he pretty much even outright admitted to, and then he tried to insist it's all me. That's a bunch of noise not worth listening to.

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TopicBlizzard reveals their diversity tool
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 5:47:49 PM
#193
UltimaterializerX posted...
Your posts are fun to read. Thanks for having me back man.

I'm willing to give anybody a chance after awhile. I don't really like blocking anybody, but Lopen's first several posts in this topic had nothing to actually do with the topic and were just intended to antagonize me into a fight, which he got, and then he tried to say I'm the problem. Nah, done with that.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 5:27:45 PM
#191
the far left controls our all institutions

??????

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TopicBlizzard reveals their diversity tool
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 4:36:50 PM
#188
Dude spends his first several posts in this topic doing nothing but attempting to get me to fight with him, but I'm the problem and I'm the one that shouldn't be engaged.

Okay.

Sorry for all the derails, everyone. Can guarantee it won't happen again after this.

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TopicJohnny Depp v. Amber Heard Trial
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 3:08:10 AM
#412
I was gonna say, I thought "Believe women" WAS the slogan, and "believe all women" was basically what detractors tried to turn it into in order to make it easier to attack.

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TopicBlizzard reveals their diversity tool
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 2:16:25 AM
#157
MariaTaylor posted...
sure. personally I don't think it's actually valid for you to totally forget about it, and then once confronted with evidence just continue on. but either way, if you think you're justified, then so be it.

but I also feel that my stance is justified. while you may not consider yourself to be a part of the group, the reality is that if 10 people are arguing with me, and you are number 11, you're going to get remembered as part of the group. it's not about the severity of the argument, it's about the ridiculous extent of topic derailing from multiple users all nitpicking the same person.

(this topic itself is not a good example, for the record. well, it's a good example of foolmo's insanity but otherwise there is no real ganging up in this topic.)

as evidenced by my earlier post, I had remembered specifically arguing with you in the gun control topic. and I knew we had argued several times before, maybe not the exact severity or extent. but, once again, this isn't solely about you. it's a pattern of behavior involving multiple users.

as I said in my earlier post, maybe it's true (or not) that you were unfairly lumped in with others. but that only happened because you coincidentally were doing the same thing as some of them, at the same time as some of them. probably on multiple occasions, but maybe just one (with other misc arguing in between) if we want to give you the extreme benefit of the doubt. there are very likely other times we interacted where you never said the word maria. where either I or you used different usernames. or it just didn't get logged somehow. I'm also not going to read all of these old topics, so anything that you report is likely to have at least a slight bias in your own favor. and most importantly, even if you don't INTEND to do something, that doesn't mean that it's not happening. you can still be a member of a group all performing the same action, even if it wasn't premeditated.

I can accept this if you're willing to accept that I have a right to want to start to question things like what you mean by me "attacking" you, and the severity of the arguments, and so on, because you made a specific accusation of me that I regularly attack you, snipe you with comments, and so on. I truly don't believe that to be the case, and the current evidence available to me reaffirms that feeling. I understand that you may group me together with others when I'm on the opposite side of a debate, but you basically made an accusation that I was intentionally going out of my way to jump on your case regularly, which caught me off guard because I can promise you that is not the case at all. Hell, in the provided examples, we have just as many topics of being on the same side in an argument as there are topics with us on opposite sides.

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TopicBlizzard reveals their diversity tool
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 2:10:43 AM
#156
MariaTaylor posted...
and that topic involved a similar discussion where you claimed you never argued with me before even though I said you did

And to answer this, there don't appear to be any other topics about gun reform that we were both in, so it appears I was, indeed, not in that topic, which you even admitted at the time you couldn't truly remember if I was or not.

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TopicBlizzard reveals their diversity tool
StealThisSheen
05/15/22 1:57:22 AM
#151
Anyway, looking through those topics GMUN listed, we specifically directly conversed in these:

75161778, which wasn't an argument, all of our posts were actually basically "I agree"
75535616, us agreeing/on the same side of an argument
75929424, us agreeing/on the same side of an argument
76703323, I answered a question about Pokemon Go that you asked
76960932, we started to debate for like two posts, you admitted to saying you misspoke, and I responded with "Fair enough. My response doesn't really apply, then." and we stopped immediately.
77912594, you questioned me on something I said, I clarified, and it immediately stopped there.
-78290078, we did, indeed, argue about somebody (self-admittedly) being elitist over using save states, but you were the one who replied to me first to kick it off.
79958805, the aforementioned Fresh Prince joke, "why did you quote yourself?" exchange
-75264335, politics topic. We started to argue, with you seeming to reply to me first (though it may have started in the previous topic?) but it ended very quickly with you ending our discussion with: "no worries. I noticed you checked into the discussion a bit late. I was probably a bit harsh in my response but that's my tendency -- I often come off more harsh than I intend. despite my best attempts to be mostly literal and to avoid confusion by doing that. like it definitely was not my intention to make you feel as if you needed to apologize."
-76940029, aforementioned gun reform topic, but I feel it didn't even get heated much at all, and it fizzled out pretty quickly.

The rest were either me speaking about a character, like Maria Bramford, or referencing you as the topic creator when talking to somebody else. I bolded the ones where we actually argued, which was three times. One of them I felt was very civil, one of them we admitted we got off on the wrong foot and ended fine, and the only one I'd say got truly heated was the save state one, but you attacked me first. Three times over many years, and only one actually got heated. I feel like my position of not remembering being part of a group of users that gang up on you seems fairly justified.

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StealThisSheen
05/15/22 1:35:39 AM
#148
MariaTaylor posted...
the fact that you genuinely believed that you had NEVER argued with me

I didn't say this. I said I didn't remember having a history of ganging up and "attacking you," which implies I intentionally did it several times.

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StealThisSheen
05/15/22 1:30:45 AM
#145
GuessMyUserName posted...
*she

Sorry, I tried to fix it. I instinctively "he" everybody and I need to stop.

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StealThisSheen
05/15/22 1:26:54 AM
#141
MariaTaylor posted...
so I'm going to round a little bit in my favor here but, including this topic, that's 4 times in the last 5 years. I'm someone who only posts in a big topic like this once, maybe twice each year. as I said, if you put money on him as one of the candidates to be arguing against me, you'd probably come out ahead.

For what it's worth, I think they're saying we interacted in those topics, not specifically that I attacked you in them.

If you're going to count any time I've ever debated anything with you on anything as an attack, then there is literally nothing I can do about that other than never converse with you again.

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