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I'm more of an Epicurean.
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JigsawTDC posted...

PO tipped me off that you can find him on reddit. u/Nudojudo does have a lot of similarities to our nudojudo, but I am not sure if it is actually him.

It is.

If you dig back far enough in his post history, you can see him ranting about gnomes, which is a thing he did fairly frequently when we were doing the PotD D&D thing. That was sort of his "thing".

You can also find a few posts where he's talking about redstone engineering in Minecraft, and he was getting into that shortly before he left here as well.
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Or you could just sum it up because no one's going to bother to do that either.
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Veedrock- posted...

Did I miss PotD's declaration of sovereignty?

Most people here certainly seem to think they're more than qualified to run a country, we might as well.
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I don't eat eggs.

I don't mind eggs in other things (cake mix, French Toast batter, breaded chicken, etc), but I don't really cook and eat them straight at all.
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Atlantis is even more interesting when you realize a lot of the backstory for it is based on real stuff. It references a lot of the traditional Atlantis myth sources, from Plato to Ignatius Donnelly to Theosophy ideas, with a dash of just general New Age and sci-fi tropes thrown in.

It basically feels like someone sat down and did like years worth of research on every single major idea involving Atlantis that had been written for the last 2000 years and tried to hammer them all into one cohesive whole that could represent a single culture. It feels like so much effort wasted on an animated movie for kids who will mostly never appreciate any of that anyway.
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Zeus posted...

Hopefully or... hopfully? >_>
<_<
>_>

http://quotegeek.com/television-quotes/red-dwarf/976/
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Muscles posted...

I read that as Maynard James Keenan

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Spider-Man's probably easier to get into, and you'll likely finish it faster. God of War is a bit meatier.

If I were you, I'd play Spider-Man first as an appetizer and save God of War until second.
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I almost always play them for the story, so I generally drop difficulty to "Casual" or "Narrative" or whatever else they call the easiest setting. I have way more fun that way.

It's not even as if I CAN'T play them on harder difficulty (for example I beat games like Greedfall and Dragon Age on the highest possible difficulties because it's necessary to perfect/platinum the games), but playing that way takes the focus almost entirely off the story/characters/setting and moves the majority of my attention onto game mechanics, tactics, and builds, which isn't really the part I actually care about when it comes to RPGs in general.

Hell, I'll generally take a freeform tabletop RPG with almost no rules of any kind over one with tons of mechanics but an incredibly generic setting. If I want to think tactically I'm more likely to play a board game or 4x style video game.
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JigsawTDC posted...

Kefka and Trump differ in one crucial way: Kefka actually wins and achieves all of his goals before he dies.

I don't think you understand Trump half as well as you think you do if you think he didn't achieve most of his actual goals.

Not what he said his goals were, but what he actually wanted.

People wouldn't shut the fuck up about him for the last four years straight. That's basically what he's been trying to achieve for the last 40 years.

Kefka was all emo and depressed in the end. Trump will be jerking himself off from the ego-boost of having been President for years to come.
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Metalsonic66 posted...

I heard the plot was not totally terrible

I heard all the best story bits are in the first few hours, to sort of trick reviewers into giving it better scores and to try and get players invested, but then the later story is mostly shit and the whole thing sort of devolves into endless grind and attempts to push microtransaction BS.
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FatalAccident posted...

He seems slightly unhinged

So, an average PotDer then.
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Your suggestions are bad, and you should feel bad.
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A moment a majority of people barely remember happened and almost no one actually gives a shit about unless they're really desperate to try and find something to make fun of?
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I support Kefka. The other night I was at the opera, and a bunch of terrorists and a giant octopus ruined the show. We really need to get tough on that sort of thing.
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JigsawTDC posted...

In the world it's Pele, no contest.

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Zeus posted...

Namely, that if you plan on self-publishing, you should build up a number of works first then release them in a blitz. The other advantage to this strategy is that it lets you shop things around to traditional publishers. I kinda see the appeal to that kind of a strategy since if you're doing a series, unless you're a major name you're going to lose interest very quickly one book to the next and only mega-stars like GRRM can get away with long gaps between books.

It also has the added advantage of giving publishers what they want most - namely, series. Most publishing houses seem to be completely disinterested in stand-alone genre novels and sort of subtly encourage writers to commit to longer trilogies, or even more open-ended series (which is why you see so many new titles from no-name writers these days that are all "First Book of the Such-and-Such Cycle".

If you come to the table with multiple books already written, you show them that you're capable of producing content beyond a single story, and they can monetize the entire series across multiple books. It's less risk for them.
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Ogurisama posted...

Fucking Blizzarding outside

You're being showered by loot boxes, bad mobile games, and disdain for human rights issues in China?
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GunslingerGunsl posted...

You'd be surprised how many older PotDers are still around.

Old PotDers never die, they just grow more and more bitter.

Except Ail. She's totally dead.
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YoukaiSlayer posted...

Nope, but I have a gallstone so thats sorta similar.

This. With the added step that my gall stones got stuck in the bile duct, which is why, long story short, I no longer have a gallbladder.
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I was going to say Homestuck, but there's actually a fair bit of overlap there with the Undertale fanbase, so that.
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I_Abibde posted...

I recommend the World War I season.

My favorite season is probably season 3. Though my favorite episode of all is the 6th episode of the 1st season (The Black Seal).

It's definitely worth noting that the first season is very different from the ones that follow. I know people who hated the first season but who love the rest of the show.
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Zeus posted...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERyxFfMqDk

I expected this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI
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Tceles B hsup!
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You know it still exists, right?

Hell, you have both the modern version and the classic version now. Take your pick!
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Wait, they arrested Star Wars Kid?

This is an outrage!
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We're all old.

OOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDD!
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I definitely prefer salted.
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JigsawTDC posted...

As for the Assassin's Creed stuff, you've convinced me to give the next game after II a shot, because you and all my other friends recommending the series seemed to really enjoy that one. How I feel about that game will determine whether I play any of the others.

A lot of people considered Brotherhood to be their favorite game in the series for years. If you enjoy it, you'll probably enjoy most of the later games as well (though III might be a slog), though if you hate it the rest of the franchise may not be for you.

If you don't like Brotherhood, consider skipping ahead and playing Odyssey and see if you prefer playing that style of game instead, because it's different enough that you might like it even if you dislike the older games.
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Which one has more hentai scenes in it? I pick that one.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

do people actually read PO posts

Probably more than bother to pay any attention to yours, which would help explain your usual pissiness.
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JigsawTDC posted...

When I wrote that I mostly meant it jokingly and I was thinking of the Harry Potter universe where it seems every piece of media is canon to the same universe.

Potter fans don't even accept that anything Rowling herself says these days is canon, I feel like it's way harsher than that. I can't see the films being canon to the books. And I have absolutely no faith that the game is legitimately canon in any way (consider a large portion of the fandom doesn't even want to buy it for moral reasons).

I feel like it's probably more of a Lucas scenario, where the creator goes "Ehh, why the fuck not?" when you ask them if something is canon, because they don't really give a shit about canon, and realize saying it IS canon will sell more product. But when the time comes to write a new book or screenplay or whatever, they in no way feel beholden to pay any attention to "canon" established by anything other than their own work (the books for Potter, the first six films for Star Wars).

Then again, I have no real idea there, because I don't actually give a single shit about Harry Potter, and haven't at any point in my life, so most of what I know about the franchise just comes from pop culture osmosis.



JigsawTDC posted...

Speaking of Assassin's Creed, I dropped the series after II, but I have friends trying to convince me it is a solid series while at the same time complaining about the game design constantly. I can deal with bad game design if the story is good. What are your thoughts on the story of the series?

Game design doesn't change all that much over the years until Origins. Each successive game is mostly the same mechanics, just slightly refined here or there, and occasionally adding new elements (like ship combat becoming a thing in ACIII and then getting polished in ACIV and Rogue).

Speaking as someone who love story and barely cares about gameplay as long as it isn't completely broken, I find the mechanics of AC to be perfectly fine. It can be slightly awkward at times, and you're going to hate the game from time to time if you're trying for 100% completion, but if all you really want is to play through the story it's pretty good.

AC1 is fine, but can be a bit dry at times. Most people's love for AC started with ACII, where they polished up a lot of mechanics and introduced a much more interesting main character in Ezio. That arc goes through Brotherhood (which is awesome) and Revelations (which is slightly less so, but still good), before they finally move on to ACIII (which is kind of bleh, because Connor sucks and the story and setting may be the weakest in the entire series).

That's where a lot of people lost interest in AC, but ACIV does a pretty good job getting things back on the rails (the hail mary'd to PIRATES!), and Rogue was one of my favorite AC games up to that point.

There's a bit of an upgrade to the engine and graphics at this point (mainly because this is where the console generation changeover happened), which hurt Unity more than it helped (because it released as a buggy mess and everyone shat on it). Sadly, I can't tell you if it's any good (I avoided it because of the bugginess), though from what I've heard most problems are fixed and the game isn't that bad now.

Syndicate was next, and even though some people disliked it, I loved it. Probably my favorite AC game (again) at the time it came out. I liked being able to switch between the twins and play as whichever you preferred, with different quests leaning more into one or the other, and the overall plot was probably the most interesting for me.

Origins was the next game, and this is probably the most divisive one - a LOT of people hated the fact that they completely overhauled the gameplay so it stopped being completely focused on stealth and parkour and moved gameplay more towards actiony RPG with stealth elements (very similar to Shadow of Mordor). I can't really tell you if it's any good (I mostly skipped it because the setting didn't interest me all that much), but I played Odyssey (with the same sort of mechanics, only refined a bit and bringing back the fullscale ship combat from ACIII/IV/Rogue), and I absolutely loved it.

My only real problem with Odyssey was that, as far as I'm concerned, it has the absolute worst modern day scenes of any game in the entire franchise, but the past scenes in the animus were some of the absolute best for me.

I feel like I might skip Valhalla (I'm not super-interested in Vikings as a setting), though supposedly it's going to be using the same sort of mechanics as Origins and Odyssey, but with renewed emphasis put back on some of the stealthier elements again.

If you dropped the series after II, I'd definitely encourage you to try some of the other games (unless you stopped after II because you just absolutely hated everything about the gameplay and story), but only you can really say whether or not it appeals to you. AC1 - ACII - AC:Brotherhood - AC:Revelations - ACIII sort of form one story arc (the modern day scenes are all linked), ACIV and Rogue are both sort of stand-alone stories, and Unity and Syndicate are technically kind of linked - though in all of those cases, the modern day scenes are almost completely unimportant.

Origins and Odyssey have linked modern day scenes (which I hate), and I assume Valhalla will be tied into the same arc (which I will also hate), but you can still mostly ignore what's going on in the present and just focus on the interesting stuff happening in the past.
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JigsawTDC posted...

Isn't Tom Holland a little young to be playing Nathan Drake?

He's in his mid-20s. Yes, he looks/acts younger in the Spider-Man films, but he's only 5 years younger than Nate was in the first game.

Plus, there's this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tom_Holland_as_Young_Nathan_Drake.png

He looks fine.



JigsawTDC posted...

Is it canon to the games or is it a separate universe?

Almost certainly not, because almost no film based on a game ever is. Or most films based on any alternate media, for that matter.

Honestly, the only movie I can think of that even remotely claimed to be canonical is Assassin's Creed, but that's a problem anyway because it kind of contradicts canon in multiple ways and kind of doesn't work in the established lore.



JigsawTDC posted...

Will Naughty Dog release update patches to replace Nathan Drake's mo-cap animation with a face that looks more like Tom Holland's, a la Spider-Man?

Hah hah.

No.
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wolfy42 posted...

Just be sure it's cold enough out cause the effects suck if you don't die. My brother was homeless in Nevada and slept outside but didn't die, he got severe frostburn though and lost some toes. Drifting off may be pleasant but if you wake up I'm guessing it really sucks.

True, but presumably if you're freezing to death in a post-apocalyptic nuclear winter where the entire planet has basically turned into Antarctica, no one is going to be coming along to find you or save you.
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Nah. "Reap what you sow" explicitly says you will be affected by your own consequences.

Yes, but the mechanism by which said payback happens isn't necessarily addressed, which is why I said it that way.

Some people might argue that the universe itself somehow causes good things to happen to good people and bad things to happen to bad people as if it was some sort of natural principle. Almost like magnetism or "like calls to like". Others might call it karma (even though that's not really what the word means). Either way, an aloof force or principle that is deliberately judging and retaliating.

If you believe a god exists and that god cares about human behavior, then that god might be the cause, magically making terrible and possibly ironic things happen to people who've been bad. It's still YOUR fault (because you did the thing), but the punishment is being meted out by a conscious force that is deliberately reacting to your actions.

There's also the more materialistic argument, which is that negative consequences are mostly just a side-effect, and has no real conscious, natural, or supernatural source, and that you're basically just setting up situations in which you're more likely to suffer. ie, be an asshole to people, and people will start treating you like an asshole, so you won't have help when you need it. If you go around solving all your problems with violence, other people will eventually start viewing you as a violent thug and react to you accordingly, etc. You've sowed the storm, now reap the whirlwind.

The saying itself tends to lean more into the direct, materialistic assumption, but plenty of people use the phrase to imply "divine intervention" as well (ie, you go around making fun of people with cancer, you get cancer, you've been deliberately punished for your behavior in a way that isn't a direct and natural outcome of your behavior).

Of course, a real cynic would point out that none of this matters, because it isn't true anyway. Terrible things happen to good people all the time, and bad people constantly benefit from being bad, and we really only read morality into events as a psychological defense mechanism. We basically tell OURSELVES that there's some sort of primal system of judgement in place, or that events will naturally smooth out the pattern no matter what, because otherwise, we have to admit just how terribly unfair life is.



CyborgSage00x0 posted...

Destiny/judgemental god would be more of a "shit happens" line, since it implies something bad is happening to a person, regardless if they actually did anything to earn the bad thing happening or not.

Not really. "Shit happens" implies total lack of judgement or distinction (shit happens to everyone, no matter what you do). A judgemental god is specifically punishing you for things you did and rewarding you for good things you do (otherwise, it's a capricious or uncaring god, not a judgemental one).

As for destiny, it depends on how you DEFINE destiny. In a strictly deterministic model there's no such thing as good or evil anyway, and no one actually MAKES choices, as we're all pre-programmed to follow a specific path and have no power to ever deviate from it, even if we think we do. In fact, our attempts to deviate are themselves part of the original plan, and merely fulfill the plan precisely as it was established. But I was mostly talking about the looser definition of destiny, in the sense that evil people are generally destined to come to a bad end eventually, while good people will tend to have good outcomes (and again, it kind of depends on what force or principle is BEHIND destiny).

But basically, my point was that there's a difference between a scenario wherein shitty things are mostly happening to people who were themselves shitty, as opposed to shittiness just happening to everyone relatively equally and randomly.

Also, I've now written shittiness and shit happens so many times that I can't stop thinking of this:

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/10/18/religions-of-the-world-according-to-shit

(I used to have that on a t-shirt back in the 90s when I was in college)
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The one you really like, and think was the best one. Because you're wrong about everything.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Beast I am, beast I become.

Pigs we get what pigs deserve.

Gaze not into the abyss lest ye become a monster.

I'm not seeing the difference here.

Then you're being kind of obtuse.

The first is saying "You have to do shitty things to survive, or you'll wind up be even shittier when you inevitably lose control", and is a specific case that only really applies to vampires in a specific setting (where starving yourself turns you into a mindless hunger monster). You have to do evil, because the alternative is to risk unleashing even greater evil.

The second is saying "People suck, and therefore when shitty things happen to people they deserve it", which implies that Trent Reznor got picked on as a kid.

The third is saying "Be careful when you're fighting against shitty people, because you can turn into a shitty person in the process", which implies you start using "the ends justify the means" or "fight fire with fire" sort of rationales when you're opposing something, and in the process, start to become just as terrible as the thing you're opposed to. To understand evil is to risk identifying with evil, and in turn, becoming evil.

YES, all three involve someone being shitty, but the context in all three cases is different. Situations where one of those applies as advice doesn't really validate the other two. Each has an intended usage that is different from the others. The first and third are almost explicitly contradictory (one can't apply where the other is correct), and the second one is arguing a state where neither of the other two matter because there's no real alternative to being terrible.

Sure, any of the three are things you might expect an emo teen to come out with as if it makes them sound profound, but they still mean different things.



Zeus posted...

What about "You reap what you sow"?!

That's yet another variation. It's basically "Shitty things happen to shitty people."

It sort of fits somewhere close to the pigs one (which is arguing that everyone is shitty so everyone always deserves the shittiness), but that one is more sort of suggesting that the shitty things happen regardless while this one is sort of implying some mechanism is at work (whether destiny, a judgemental god, or just mechanistic determinism) to ensure that shitty things specifically happen to people who deserve them.

Those two you could actually fudge a bit to be more or less the same, but you could also easily interpret them in different ways.



shadowsword87 posted...

...Did you just quote VtM unironically?

No, I referenced VtM as part of a joke about vampires and then had to explain it unironically.

Though liking VtM is nothing to be ashamed of anyway. Not like, say, liking something like Eclipse Phase. ~shudder~
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

"Gaze not into the abyss" is what all variants boil down to. It's not as unique an idea as you seem to think.

Again, that's not really the same concept at all.

Nietzsche is basically saying "don't become what you oppose". Which is a distinctly different premise than either of the other two.

It's like saying the "Golden Rule" is the same premise because it just boils down to "don't be an asshole". It's oversimplification to the point of meaninglessness - in each case, they're effectively warning against entirely different things or proposing entirely different methodology.
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Freezing to death is actually fairly pleasant. You just sort of slowly go numb, drift off to sleep, and then just don't wake up.

For bonus points, you can accelerate the process and feel better on the way out if you get drunk.
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BlackJackCat posted...

He's intentionally being obtuse. He knows exactly the point being made and doesn't want to admit he's wrong. :)

Being contrarian is helly's entire reason for being. If he ever stopped, he'd cease to exist in a puff of logic.



ryanell666 posted...

Me thinks this isn't a game one should buy on Day One.

If we're going to be honest with ourselves, this is pretty much true for every game released in the last decade or so, and likely for the rest of our lives going forward.

Most games these days seem to come out hopelessly broken, and require at least a few patches before they're even acceptable, let alone good. People should generally be willing to wait at least a month (if not more) before jumping on any game. Especially since the extra time (and not pre-ordering) would allow more people to actually read reviews and get a feel for a game rather than getting burned by pre-release hype for shitty games.
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LuciferSage posted...

Literally a much nicer way of framing my sig...but a parallel line of thought for sure...

Not really. Trent's basically just saying "people suck".

"A Beast I am, lest a Beast I become" is "The Riddle" from Vampire: the Masquerade, which more or less boils down to "You're a monster now, because you have to prey on humans and drink blood. But if you don't do that, because you're trying to be a good person, you'll eventually starve yourself, lose control, and go into a berserk frenzy where you almost certain kill multiple people in incredibly savage ways. So you either have to accept the paradox that being a good person requires you to be a bad person, or you have to kill yourself."

The Riddle is just saying "Stop whining, nut up, and be a vampire."
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Zeus posted...

https://i.imgur.com/vvnHoZr.jpg

Wave might be better off if a vampire decided to turn him.

If it happens, Wave, just remember "A Beast I am, lest a Beast I become." That's important.
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Her initials are V M, she's either 65 or was born in 1965 (so is 55), and she self-identifies as a non-binary gender-queer who is still unsure of her identity. Obviously.
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funkyfritter posted...

It's definitely more functional in colder climates. Without something warm on getting out of bed in the middle of the night to use the bathroom when it's cold is torture.

I always used to associate thermal underwear with hunting, because the only people I knew who wore it were people who were planning to go sit quietly in a tree stand for hours and hours in the middle of November, so they needed the added warmth.
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Wanded posted...

you people do realize the second trump makes an account here 3/4 of potd would get insta banned for being offensive towards him, right?

We can only dream of such a glorious day.
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I found the other two to be annoying in various ways, I can't see this one being any different.
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Entity13 posted...

You can find separate but like, if not worse, with some ease. The problem is I'm not wasting valuable braincells in that search, and I'm sorry you had to go looking through people who are understandably upset. Upset people say and do stupid things.

The real problem is that people online never stop being upset. And they never stop saying stupid things.
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JigsawTDC posted...

I don't like this answer, so I'm going to accept PO's response and my head canon is now RDR, GTA, Manhunt, and Bully all taking place in the same reality.

He's not technically right anyway, because the existence of real cities doesn't automatically prevent the existence of fake ones.

In DC comics, they have cities like Gotham (which is basically just a corrupt NYC - it's literally named after one of NYC's nicknames) and Metropolis (which started out as a sort of fusion of Cleveland and Toronto, but which then kind of evolved into Chicago before kind of turning into NYC as well - which is why you get the famous quote from Denny O'Neil that Metropolis is NYC on the sunniest day in the middle of July, Gotham is NYC in the middle of a miserable November night). You'd assume that in a United States where heroes are adventuring in Metropolis and Gotham and Central City (somewhere in the Midwest) and Star City (sort of a Chicago analogue) and Coast City (basically LA/SF) and a dozen other cities wouldn't HAVE any real cities, because there'd be no room for them.

But NYC and Chicago other real cities still exist in the DC universe as well.

The DC Earth is canonically larger than the real world, which is how they can squeeze in extra cities and countries that don't exist in our world.

So there's no reason why both Liberty City AND NYC can't both exist in the same world. Even if it seems kind of stupid.

But like I said, Rockstar has never explicitly said that any of the games take place in the same universe (or that they don't), so if you want to assume they do, then you can assume they do. Or if you don't like the idea, then they don't and the things they have in common are just easter eggs.

But also like I said, they HAVE said that the "3D" universe (the GTAIII games) and the "HD" universe (GTAIV, V, Online) ARE two different universes. So it's possible that RDR could exist in the GTA V universe but not the GTA III one, or Manhunt and/or Bully could be related to one or the other but not both, or some other combination.
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The Wave Master posted...

Let's do this for the 4th time. We are under another damn hurricane warning.

On the plus side, hurricane season has to end eventually.
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