Lurker > MZero

Good morning friends

So looks like we're mislynching Lopen yet again huh

No that's just presenting data not trying to direct town

Anway I'm going to sleep might be back a few minutes before deadline

Obellisk posted...

his bold comment is funnier than the actual joke.

100% I actually lol'd

Lopen posted...

Doing what as town? We had one date game how could we.

I mean using math and stuff to decide the "optimal" and safe course of action instead of actually scumhunting

ItzKnightz posted...

You have to bold it

It was a joke lmao

Obellisk posted...

The Claw is no longer requesting the blood of the Dragon.

The Claw is not happy with the chain of votes.

#dayvig SBell

Lopen posted...

I said FD was encouraging a passive date scheme to allow scum to run over town with ease

FD insisted post-game he was doing what he would have done as town and just happened to be scum

Did Mzero tune out of this discussion or is her purposely misrepresenting the situation to get votes on FD

I didn't really read postgame that carefully

Either way anyone can say that, someone find proof of him doing it as town

htaeD posted...

While I appreciate that Mzero has a drive now, I do want to know what eveven was the suboptimal FD strategy he is referring too.
I am asking as the guy who died night1 and wants to check that game again

Basically trying to get the suspects to pair with the widely town read players at final 9 and then force them to pair at 7 so they couldn't pair at 5.

Or something like that anyway

Lopen posted...

Notably to defeat MZero's argument FD vehemently denied he was manipulating town as scum in valentine's mafia and claimed it was a good strategy

Why would he admit he was manipulating town

Remoraid and Octillery still gets me sometimes

Kirby321 posted...

This suspicion is justified, and I've said as much earlier in the day.

But I've never pegged MZero as one to start going for the "out there" theories as solid reasons to start a lynch.

FD could be manipulating town. But you have to ask: what does scum FD gain from pushing No Lynch?

His motive (or at least one of his motives) for pushing NL was that we won't force town power to claim. Of course, that is ideal but that also means we won't force scum to claim either, and forcing scum to claim is one of the best ways to bust them. Especially day 1 when they're locked into that claim for the rest of the game. Also, stalling out on No Lynch (he started pushing this less than half-way through the day) leads to a complacent down and kills all the momentum going into Day 2. Scum can also lay low if no one's getting pressured.

It's also an easy thing to push so you don't have to fake scum hunt. Just park yourself on No Lynch and call it a day. Very safe. As I recall in Valentine's FD isn't the best at faking suspicion as scum. He pretty much just said Ulti and I were scum by PoE because he liked everyone else. I don't really remember what he did early game but I don't remember him making a lot of pushes.

Lopen posted...

He's been a log as both alignments but being active before he absolutely has to is pretty much scum exclusive

I don't think this is true but I'm not about to go digging at 2am

Kirby321 posted...

You're avoiding my question.

Negative town points to MZero.

You're not voting anyone either so I don't feel obligated to answer your question

Corrik was a log last game as scum

*sounds good in theory

Oh wait, I just realized this is Valentine's mafia all over again. FD is trying to trick town into a sub-optimal strategy that sounds good in but doesn't hold up under scrutiny.

##Vote: FD

hail the claw

Kirby321 posted...

We are missing votes from MZero, Death, Red, Ctes, Knightz, and SBell.

Who do you six think are scum?

You're voting NL that's basically the same thing >_>

Lopen posted...

Ctes is the best lynch though

You don't say "I wanna lynch a lurker" and go at Lea before Mzero without an antitown agenda

Lopen posted...

Lea is one of the most active players on the board historically, I think she has earned that goodwill.

Your logic is backwards imo

Lea is one of the most active players, so inactivity is cause for concern. I am inactive as either alignment most of the time, so it's nothing out of the oridnary

Why Kirby over FD?

I will eat my hat if chang is scum

Obellisk posted...

Was Kirby in the game where mzero dayvigged me (I was scum)?

That was Day 2 tbf

Kirby321 posted...

There's nuance to this. Stop with the ignorant blanket statements.

No Lynch on any future day is dumb because we have information from flips. This D1 is no different from any other D1 in that we've got jack shit to go off of and any lynch that happens will be sheer luck more often than not.

On future days, we have more information to mitigate our worsened odds of finding scum. Today, we have extremely low odds of hitting scum, and we have absolutely zero info besides "Corrik shot IGCD" and the latter's flip to go off, which at best just tells us that Corrik is town and nothing else.

Suppose Lea is Cop. Then this day ends with either her getting lynched or her claiming. And if she lives and scum has a full-time roleblocker, Lea becomes completely useless.

Whereas if we just NL without any extra buzz, Cop Lea can safely get a scan.

I feel like we do pretty well on Day 1 in general and in fact blow it later on more often than not

Round 1: 4 Mega Man (1), Kirby (1), Sonic Heroes

Round 2: 12 MGS2 (1), Kirby and the Forgotten Land (2), Radio Songs (6), Mario (1), Chrono Cross

Bonus Round 1: 6 Starcraft, OoT, Elden Ring

Round 3: 18 Mario (2), FFXIII-2/FF2 (6), Metroid Prime/Metroid (4), Fire Emblem Engage/7 (6)

Round 4: 20 CJ, Ignis, Ichiban, Andross, Face McShooty (I've never heard Ignis, Ichiban, or 2B in English but I managed to get Ignis and Ichiban based on the line)

Round 5: 2 Pokemon Stadium 2

Bonus Round 2: 0

Total: 62

My answer to the question is the same as Johnny's, Mega Man has great music but I don't really like the games

In all seriousness I don't know if FD is scum or just spineless nut No Lynching because there are less scum than before is wild

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Then vote me. What a weak thing to say and not even cast a vote.

Is what I said wrong? No. We have less scum to potentially lynch today than we did before the game began, full stop. If you lynch me that chance is reduced to 0% because I am town. All you can do today is force claims out which is something scum WANTS now that their godfather is dead.

And yeah, there is a chance that scum could be lynched today, big fucking deal. It's a LOW chance and we can start pursuing lynches more aggressively tomorrow. That doesn't mean we can't still be sus of people today, just that I believe we should NL regardless of the sus because sus is often wrong and lynching or outing town power should absolutely be avoided. Last thing we need is for another power to claim for no reason.

scum really doesnt want to lose two today huh

Obellisk posted...

Ulti loves outside the standards of town and scum. If Ulti isn't doing something HE normally does it's concerning.

Trying to read Ulti is a fool's errand. Scan him and call it a day

Why is No Lynch leading wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp-Ys_iFwnM

Blaziken posted...

Weavile. From the same generation. >_>

Gliscor, also from the same generation

HURRICANE
+3 Torchic
+2 Buzzwole
+1 Solosis
-1 Eelektrik
-2 Aron
-3 Barboach

CLOSE COMBAT
+3 Totodile
+2 Chi-Yu
+1 Wurmple
-1 Shaymin
-2 Rattata
-3 Guzzlord

I got over 9000

Only thing that really comes to mind is beating the last Pantheon in Hollow Knight or clearing Through the Fire and Flames on Expert

Also the point of the game is too lynch scum so yeah trying to get people lynched if you think they're scum is pretty towny behavior tbh

ItzKnightz posted...

What do we know about Lopen? He's acting like he's scum. He wants to kill me by turning suspicion over to me so everyone votes for me to be lynched.

Town Lopen tends to try and lynch everyone at least once in any given game

Assume they're innocent most of the time

OJ probably did it tho

Find

PunishedBen posted...

Interesting stuff here. We're looking at two scum teams? This is how it worked in Tekken mafia right?

oh I skimmed right past this lol

could be scum teams but i don't think that's enough info to make that assumption

changmas posted...

inb4 lopen calls the claw 3rd party cult recruiter

Knightz, Lopen, and I are the only 3 without a listed nickname. Scum is typically around 25-33% of the game. Thus, one of us three must be scum based on math

Kirby321 posted...

Oh wait Wallz already provided everybody's nicknames in the player list.

10/10 host

Forgot to include Rik as Corrik7's nickname

Linkin

OBLIVION WING
+3 Furret
+2 Flareon
+1 Sandshrew
-1 Burmy
-2 Spiritomb
-3 Bewear

ELECTRIFY
+3 Nidoking
+2 Veluza
+1 Dondozo
-1 Froslass
-2 Audino
-3 Tympole

3rd > Zero > CS1 > CS2 > SC > FC >>> Azure

didn't finish CS3 so I can't rank it but I didn't like what I saw

ExThaNemesis posted...

Oh word? So you don't get how american corporations would harness this to maximize productivity by eliminating bathrooms from the workplace. You'd be locked in at your desk/station all day. Especially when they also stitch up something to either inject or feed you a ration at selected times.

work from home master race

ItzKnightz posted...

You could've signed up for a replacement yesterday but now you can't. You can only watch, not participate.

I can't speak for the host but I imagine signing up as a replacement is still allowed

shot

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Chrom
Ori

Absolutely. I'm sure it would take awhile to get used to, but after that I'm all in.

Grand_Kirby posted...

And if you would be okay with this, would you still step aside to a private area to do your business or do you think you would be able to let loose while in a crowd or in the middle of a conversation? Would it make a difference if you could do it subtly or not?

100% depends on if the smell gets out. I would think if we have the technology to teleport poop we would have some smell proof tech as well though

FFXV is my favorite game here but a lot of people don't like it, so I might recommend Persona 3 Reload instead

Cold Steel 3 made me drop the series completely so do with that info as you will