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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Man, I had no idea - and he's 55?!

Now I kinda feel bad that I most recognize him for his laughing meme and the Mummy scream. I think his only movie I've watched start to finish was Rain Man.

Watch Edge of Tomorrow. He stars in it and does a pretty great job (and the movie is really good too).
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not a great week in general
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KamikazePotato posted...

GuessMyUserName posted...

god forbid anybody call a murderer a nazi

No but you see *insert paragraphs of word vomit dancing around the issue*

It keeps happening!
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GuessMyUserName posted...

god forbid anybody call a murderer a nazi

No but you see *insert paragraphs of word vomit dancing around the issue*
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The Mana Sword posted...

I wish playing devil's advocate was able to give me as swift and as powerful of an orgasm as it apparently does for some of the people in this topic.

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SotC/MGS3 is completely irrelevant except in terms of managing how much a bandwagon can affect things. When it's not trying to solo the entire series, SotC is pretty much equal to MGS2.
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Advokaiser posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Then again, I didn't think MGS3 could beat MGS1 either...!

Hey, that was just pic factor and you know it!

...And maybe a case of rSFF to some extent. MGS1 is the most iconic in the franchise and technically the strongest one by itself, but I can see why people would think it looks out-dated in comparison, specially when being put in a 1v1 match.

MGS3 vs. MGS1 extrapolated using their 2015 results (before going head to head) had MGS3 winning with like 50.01%, so if there was rSFF there it was minimal.

People heavily overrate the MGS series drop. MGS2, 3, and 4 all did pretty much as-expected. 5 sucked but it was a new game that disappointed people so that's not surprising. 1 did seem to drop - it went from beating GSC in 2008 to being projected to lose to it in 2015 - and it's the flagship series title, so that's probably where a lot of the perception comes from.
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I can't believe that Loader Bot wasn't even supposed to be in later episodes and was saved at the last second. That would have changed a lot!
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Chillglad posted...

the Olympics has always been and should always be a celebration of peak physical form and pushing physical limits.

Some events in the last Olympics:

Archery
Dressage
Golf
Shooting
Table Tennis
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tag. Love this game
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Emeraldegg posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

swordz9 posted...

Wha why? The Olympics should be for actual athletes....

How do you define athleticism without including mental exertion? It's kind of a big deal to know what move to make in every sport.

I would argue that "sports" such as football, basketball, tennis, etc, all require both physical and mental exertion, while esports involves just mental exertion.

esports require a decent amount of physical exertion (there's a reason that competitive Melee players are slowly destroying their hands over time), and more importantly, a very large amount of physical finesse, which is more important than exhaustion when you look at what events the Olympics typically has.

Not sure amount it being in the Olympics though. It's still pretty young and I'd like to see certain games codified as esport standards first (LoL is close).
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I'm 100% okay with Bronn and Jaime plot armor. Jaime's story isn't even close to being finished and god damn Bronn is just too likable and offers a good contrast to all the noble posturing that goes on.
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Doomfists fist charge is pretty busted. Expecting nerfs for that sometime.
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Uncharted is really good in banter, but I don't think it can be considered the best when most semi-serious scenes are underwhelming. I think MGS is overall better in this regard - it can do silly and serious (often at the same time!) and make both work, so I put that series over Uncharted.

Nier 1 probably has the best overall voice acting I've heard in any game. Automata does a really good job too. Last of Us, Dragon Age, Mass Effect are all up there.
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10 out of 10
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swordz9 posted...

From what I've heard Tracer is literally the only character to not be touched for buffs and nerfs so how could she ever have been awful?

It's...a hypothetical example...

swordz9 posted...

You didn't even mention my Pharah comment either

Pharah is problematic, yes
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That happens. Like I said, there are League of Legends characters that have gone through five iterations. The majority of the cast has had a rework at this point. Some minor, some major. Standards evolve over time. It sucks when a character builds up an identity and it has to change, but them's the breaks. Some people will stop playing but it's necessary - and honestly the number of people that will actually stop playing because of unfavorable changes to a single character is extremely low. There's a bunch of characters in these games.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Like, at the end of the day, the most perfect balanced character imagineable is worthless if they're not fun. I don't care if he's better if he sucks, and yes, he would still suck if he went full defense. Boring is sucking. If Roadhog was defacto the best character in the game but still as boring as he is to play right now, he'd still be crashing towards a 0% pick rate for me, down from maybe the 40% he was at.

Deal with it? If Tracer had infinite dashes, would you be okay with Tracer fans telling people it shouldn't be removed because it was fun for them? Like, if the change makes you stop playing Overwatch, oh well. That's not everyone elses' problem.
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swordz9 posted...

Broken can also mean something is no longer good ya know.

No, it doesn't. Character go through phases of not being good ALL THE TIME. Roadhog is not a special snowflake in this regard. Balance is hard and it takes time to adjust. Sombra was awful for like 3 months after release, but they stuck with her kit and tuned it until she was in a good spot. They could have immediately given her some broken ability to make her viable but what would that have accomplished? Her mere prescense would have been shitty for the game.

Roadhog being able to be beaten in pre-nerf state does not mean he was okay, either. Peak Widowmaker was beatable and had certain counters but that didn't make her not awful to fight.

Honestly, the way you're talking it sounds like this is your first character-based multiplayer game. The ebb and flow of character strength is just something you have to get used to. Tracer is my favorite character and there's been times when she was awful. It happens. A character spending weeks underpowered is absolutely nothing in the scope of the big picture. Sometimes it takes literal years to fix them.
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Which is unfortunate but necessary. You'd be pissing off a lot more people by leaving it the way it was.

Like this is a pretty low-scale change as well. There's characters in League of Legends that have been reworked 5-6 times in drastic ways because their kits were (are) toxic garbage. Better to keep trying than to leave it the way it was.
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He's not broken. Broken means a playstyle that is unhealthy for the game. Roadhog is weak and can easily be fixed with buffs which are coming soon this isn't hard to understaaaand
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It will get better after people realize that a tanky frontliner who can pull enemies into his team is extremely valuable. He'll transition from being an assassin getting kills on his own to a tank setting up easy kills for his team. No other tank can do that without ulting. It's doubtful that he'll ever be as popular as he was - Offense is the most popular class and Roadhog was an Offense hero in disguise. He'll still find a strong niche over time if they buff him in the correct ways.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Roadhog going more defensive just means I won't play him anymore

Then you won't play him anymore. Overall game health trumps the desires of individual players for a character. Like I said, there's a reason they keep Widow in such an undertuned state.
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On the subject of Barriston - I still can't believe they killed him off so early. What an incredible waste. He was one of the most likable people on Dany's council and his Book 5 stuff is some of its best content.
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swordz9 posted...

I mean if you want something to soak up damage I'd pick D.Va, Reinhardt or Orisa before I'd ever pick Roadhog.

Which is why they're changing him to fit his role as a tank better. Character-based multiplayer games do this all the time when necessary.
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If they increase his defensive capabilities and make him less of an assassin and more of a frontliner who soaks up tons of damage and uses his hook to displace enemies (if his allies follow up on the hook then most enemies are going to be screwed regardless), then he would probably be quite good. Just not in the way people are used to him being good.
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They already said they're going to be buffing Roadhog. If you're hoping for his old hook combo, though, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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swordz9 posted...

What's wrong with him 1v1ing a lot of the cast?

What Roadhog used to do wasn't to 1 v 1 - it was to assassinate. It was equivalent to being headshot by a Widowmaker except it was much easier to pull off. You'd be randomly pulled into death and in many situations there little counterplay to it. You could try to position yourself and take cover, sure, but that Rein shield is going to go down eventually and half the time Roadhogs just flanked to get around stuff like that anyway.

I think the fact that Roadhog turned to garbage the second you nerfed his hook combo shows how busted his design philosophy was. It was such an overpowering move that the rest of Roadhog needed to be crap for him to be balanced overall. Making him tankier during his self-heal is a good first step towards pushing him into a healthier role that actually fits his classification of Tank.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/29/video-shows-u-s-border-officers-telling-mexican-teen-to-drink-the-liquid-meth-that-killed-him/?utm_term=.1b89004fe680

Seriously, the hell is wrong with the police?
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Persona 3. Out of those choices, P5.
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CoolCly posted...

He has a ton of health, can heal himself, and shotguns are inherently anti tank, and oh yeah he has a hook so he can pull people out of position and into his team. To say one shotting people was his entire kit is absurd.

I completely agree he's bad *right now* but that doesn't mean the correct design decision is for him to be able to one shot people to be good. I think the ideal design for him is that he's good at disrupting enemy team dynamics, is difficult to kill, and is good at killing tanks.

This exactly. Buff him so he's good again without having to rely on the stupid hook propping up his entire kit.
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Anagram posted...

I just don't get why other than money. Of all the things you could remake, why would you remake It?

Because the original series hasn't aged well and isn't a totally accurate adaptation of the source material to begin with. Also money.

Also it looks good so far -

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Roadhog's instant-kill hook combos were very very not fun for anyone except Roadhog. You can avoid them to an extent but it's equally as easy to get blindsided by them in a way that leaves very little counterplay in return. Arguments like 'Hanzo's Split Arrow can one-shot people too' don't hold water because Split Arrow is probably the worst ability in the game from a game design standpoint and it deserves to be changed too.

As far as Widowmaker goes, the game is horrible whenever she's remotely decent. She's antithetical to Overwatch's entire design philosophy. You can't change her because there's a large subset of people that will only ever play snipers in any game they can, but the next-best thing is to keep her as unpopular as possible.
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foolm0r0n posted...

It was an actual negotiation, not a choreographed dance of words like other GoT meetings. They were both struggling to convince the other person and they were both bad at it but kept trying. Kinda similar to King's Landing meetings with Tywin and Tyrion, but with protagonists instead.

This is really the biggest issue with the show by a wide margin. The plot changes are whatever. Some questionable choices but for the most part they did what they had to.

The writing of the dialogue, however, is very inconsistent - although it becomes consistently worse the more they deviate from the original material. A lot of it sounds like dialogue that's...well, written for TV. It's created to create entertaining soundbites and not much else. Characters set each other up for 'surprising' dialogue turnarounds and make a lot of witty quips. It can ruin the mood, both because it comes across as campy and because it betrays the fantasy aesthetic as they use a lot of phrases and wording that sounds more at home in a modern day setting.

I'm going to bring up two examples that were generally well-received but I had problems with. The first is Sandor's chicken scene in Season...4? It's entertaining and 'memeable' but it's not how Sandor or any real person would ever act or talk. It was way too silly. Another is Tyrion's 'I drink and I know things' line. It's way, way too on the nose and was a line created solely to make TV audiences laugh.

I think people focus way too much on some changes to plot or alterations to characters when compared to the source material - most of the time it ends up fine. The real issue that I think prevents the show from being able to meet/surpass the books is the dialogue writing. Season 1 copies a lot of lines verbatim and conversations easily sound the best in the series. Every season after that deviates from original dialogue more and more and it suffers every time. It's a huge pervasive problem in a show that is mostly talking!

It's especially weird because some TV-original writing is fantastic. Then you go to the next scene and it sounds like fanfiction. That's the problem with multiple writers working on the same thing, I guess.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/702141081027104769
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/702147760926011393

Wow was Ted Cruz disloyal to his very capable director of communication. He used him as a scape goat-fired like a dog! Ted panicked.

Ted Cruz does not have the right "temperment" to be President. Look at the way he totally panicked in firing his director of comm. BAD!

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Wait Mooch is gone already?? Jesus
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Also just realized I used the phrase 'double-edged sword' wrong. Whoops.

The Morty bot was probably the highlight of the episode for me. The way it waxed poetic about wanting to frolic through the streams and eat ice cream 'for real' was so over-the-top and dark.

Wonder if Summer is going to keep that tattoo.
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I feel like they've been mishandling Jerry's character for a while now. Using him as the punching bag works when he's causing his own problems. When he's in the right and still get punched, it just gets old. His decision to make an ultimatum in regards to Rick is already looking super justified, but the episode painted everyone's divorce angst as mostly being Jerry's fault. The episode also more or less showcased how awful a parent Beth looks like when Jerry isn't around to make fun of - can't tell apart her family from obvious robots for three weeks straight because they kept telling her what she wanted to hear. Very similar to when Jerry loved being in the illusion world because it was fulfilling all his life's wishes. Beth isn't called a loser by the wind though, also doesn't have her checks eaten by random dog (that was really random). This is a double-edged issue for me because it's both poor writing and not funny.

I do appreciate Morty growing increasingly tired of Rick's shit though.
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That entire stretch of plot is amazing. The return to Aball is fantastic and it somehow gets better from there.
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It's widely loved and likely always will be. There will be people who aren't fans but that applies to literally every piece of media in existence.
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pyresword posted...

"Oh ok. Let me just go back to Titania real quick. I guess maybe something of relatively minor importance will happen, but then I'll be at a clear break point and I can stop."

--pyresword, before he knew.

This happened to me too. A lot of stuff comes out of nowhere there!
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Not_an_Owl posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

The_Donald is having a meltdown.

I mean, even moreso than usual.

I don't understand why you subject yourself to that place.

I don't today is a special day.

By the way, FOX News.com put their article on the repeal fail at the bottom of their front page.
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The_Donald is having a meltdown.

I mean, even moreso than usual.
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ALSO, let's not forget to give props to Collins as well. She may not have had as much direct pressure as Murkowski did (as far as I know) but she still did the right thing when it counted.
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Felt like it would be relevant to re-post this image of Trump talking about healthcare, with Murkowski pictured on the right and Collins on the left.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/07/27/National-Politics/Images/Trump_25988-43906-4699.jpg?uuid=iNmatHMGEeeIOexI7EyuJQ
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I mean, you have to call for the vote eventually. I...think.
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So I'm reading up on the Murkowski write-in campaign, and when she declared she would still be running even though she lost the primary, McConnel told her that she would have no support from him in the future in any way whatsoever.

Reads so well after tonight.
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Jakyl25 posted...

If I gave you 4:1 odds that Trump will insinuate that McCain's vote was due to his tumor, would you take it?

I think this is the only time I've awaited Trump tweets on bated breath. I can't wait to see this implosion.
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Normally I'm against using @ to harass people and bring them into topics but SephG has been such a colossal piece of shit about this entire situation that I'm alright with it this time

What happenes after this? Do they re-do it again and hold ANOTHER vote?
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