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CSCA33 posted...

The underlined part came up in the past to defend JK Rowling for her retcon announcing that Dumbledore is gay, btw

The underlined part is not about fictional characters in any way

StealThisSheen posted...

We can read. The problem for you is that, no matter how many times you say "I swear I didn't make this topic for bigoted reasons," your complete and utter lack of ability to defend or make sense of the topic says otherwise, since you keep using alt right buzzwords.

And we're back to people just making shit up about me. What alt-right buzzwords am I using? What arguments am I failing to defend? You gave me "one more chance to save myself", and when I answered consistently with everything I've been saying this entire topic, you continued to attack me without ever acknowledging it. I have never seen myself taken in bad faith so horrendously like in this topic.

Ratchetrockon posted...

None I guess we just have totally different taste in games

What's your top 10?

StealThisSheen posted...

This, quite literally, makes no sense. If you don't care about the other topic, why did it "prompt" this topic?

The subject of the topic reminded me of a related (but not the same) subject. I explicitly said this 150 posts ago and it appears that none of you have the ability to read and have been dumping vitriol on me for absolutely no reason.

StealThisSheen posted...

Again, this one was done without attention being called to them. The only reason attention was called to them is because people like you flipped out over seeing a guy kiss another guy on TV. So why did you make a topic about it, in the first place, if you don't think attention should be called to it?

I do not care about the specifics of this because that's not what the topic is about. This is a completely different subject. The 9-1-1 topic PROMPTED this one; that doesn't mean this one is also about 9-1-1 or anything discussed in the topic because, again, I have not read it and I do not care about it. You keep putting these intentions that I don't have into my mouth for absolutely no reason despite my explaining over and over exactly what I mean.

bfslick50 posted...

There's a high power group that wants to limit the number of queer characters because of bigotry and they are often successfully able to point at international marketing to to justify their bigotry as a business decision. This pressures a lot of creators to change their story from intended purposes and hide that a character is queer. The people on twitter are sick of that and complain. You are taking aim at those complaints.

If you actually want it normalized, representation is a huge factor in normalizing it. A character just being queer without it being a plot point or a joke just as they could be British without it being a plot point or a joke is normalization.

I agree that representation is good and I have never said otherwise. That being said, good representation and normalization also includes making these depictions (or at least a lot of them) mundane and without attention called to them, and as I've already stated, there is a non-trivial amount of pressure on creators and actual real life people to do the opposite. In addition, there are plenty of people that are "openly" gay or trans or whatever, but tend not to explicitly state it to everyone they know because it simply isn't relevant 90% of the time.

teep_ posted...

PMD 2

XCX

MGS 3

I'm surprised there aren't any Uchikoshi games on there

Virtue's Last Reward, AI, and Remember 11 are all in the top 20, just not the top 10.

The cheap fucks only gave us 1 save slot

Glob posted...

Ive played three, but the only one I liked was Resident Evil 4.

I am dubious of the list though given the fact that RE6 is on there. I dont believe anybody really likes it.

Hi, it's me. I like it. Steam says I have 134 hours in it and I have beaten every campaign on the hardest difficulty.

FunWithAFryPan posted...

Its not correct to make prescriptions based on ideal circumstances.

A prescriptive statement is about how the world should be, also known as "ideal circumstances".

StealThisSheen posted...

It's literally only news-worthy BECAUSE people like TC complained about it, though. If they hadn't complained, it wouldn't have made news, in the first place.

Where have I complained about it?

bfslick50 posted...

This. No one complains when a heterosexual couple kisses. We should be aiming to treat everyone the same and TC is decidedly not doing that.

I'm literally doing that! That's what this topic is about! Being gay or trans or whatever should be normal and utterly unexceptional! That's what my second post in this topic was about!

FunWithAFryPan posted...

Trans is not a sexuality.

True! I made the title before the OP and didn't go back and change it. My bad.

StealThisSheen posted...

I'm gonna give you one more chance to save yourself, literally just one.

Here is the context:

The character didn't go on some soapbox to announce they're bisexual. They didn't announce they're bisexual at all. They just happened to have a scene where they kissed a fellow man.

Do you think this is "announcing" their sexuality? Please explain.

I'll preface this by stating that this has no relevance to anything I've said previously. Objectively, this is revealing new information to the audience that they didn't know before, so it is, in some sense, "announcing" it to the audience, but nowhere close to getting on a soapbox and delivering a speech to the world. It's also much better writing, obviously; a bi person tends to give more kisses to the same sex than announcements that they're bi to the world. As I've been discussing it, though, I wouldn't consider it an announcement. Unpacking (the game) has some really excellent diegetic storytelling to show that the main character is bi, and I love it for that.

DnDer posted...

I read it as don't feel pressured because there's no pressure to come out. That your friends aren't doing that to you, and you need to decide when it's right for yourself.

Because I know when I've had people come out to me, my first impression has never been, "Now, tell everyone else!" because friends don't do that.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/be97a2f2.png
This sure does read as "there is zero pressure to come out".

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

The discourse was literally just conservative backlash. The actor himself was very accepting of the role and of other lgbt relationships on the show.

Youre just pretending you didnt knowingly respond to conservative outrage with a you dont have to publicly announce your sexuality post. It was never good faith.

Where have I said a single word of negativity towards ANY of this? Please, find me a single instance of me talking disparagingly not just of this instance of a character's sexuality being revealed, but of ANYONE's sexuality being revealed in this topic. They aren't there, because you're just making shit up.

bfslick50 posted...

That's really fucking dense. If someone gets attacked for going to a play, do you say "people shouldn't have to go to the play if they don't want to" or do you say "don't fucking attacking people." I'm not saying only talk about the world's biggest issue. I'm saying within a issue prioritize. Like how we had to stop lynchings before we talked about housing redlining. Redlining is absolutely a huge fucking problem but lynchings had to be stopped first. There are a lot of people that feel afraid to express their sexuality, that feel afraid to write a character as they want to. That needs to be stopped first.

Yes, lynchings are obviously bad. That doesn't mean I'm not allowed to discuss redlining in any capacity until all lynchings stop, or that I need to make 7 topics about lynchings for every 1 topic I make about redlining.

DnDer posted...

An article that feels like the opposite of pressure to come out.

And it explicitly says "don't feel pressured to come out" because this is obviously a real phenomenon that affects people. You're arguing against yourself now.

Dudebusters posted...

Bro if you don't care why did you make a topic about it

This topic isn't about it, if you have the ability to read. I saw "character revealed to have x identity and Discourse surrounding it" and my mind made a connection to a somewhat related issue.

LeoRavus posted...

Who gets pressured into coming out of the closet? I think people announce it to sort of "normalize" homosexuality in society and not have to hide it. People are going to wonder why they're always hanging around one guy and talk about it, so might as well just be upfront.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-pop-culture/ heartstopper-star-kit-connor-says-forced-come-out-bisexual-rcna54975
This is the instance that immediately comes to my mind. Nobody should feel this amount of pressure to perform their identity.

Umbreon posted...

TC: Do you understand why your initial post came off as suspicious?

I have absolutely no idea what's going on in the 9-1-1 topic (because I don't care), but I imagine people from that topic are pretty emotionally charged right now and highly susceptible to reading bad intentions into statements that look similar despite being completely different. I cannot comprehend continuing to read those bad intentions into what I've said once I've made it utterly and abundantly clear that I don't have those intentions.

Fluttershy posted...

Okay, so you're just making shit up that I didn't say.

i did mis-phrase it but at the same time you still implied that there was something wrong with people who didn't act the way you liked.

maybe you didn't mean to imply that, but you did.

I didn't, and you're just continuing to just make shit up.

bfslick50 posted...

Lets first work on society not getting upset when it is announced. How is that not the bigger issue?

If you're so concerned about bigger issues, why isn't literally everything you post about concerning climate change or nuclear proliferation or world hunger or malaria? An issue being "bigger" doesn't mean I'm not allowed to talk about smaller issues, and I think it should be implicit in everything that I've said that people that get upset about people openly expressing and embracing their identities are bad.

Fluttershy posted...

Where have I said a single negative word about this specific instance or ANY instance of a character or person's identity being announced in the topic

when you said there was 'absolutely nothing wrong' about not sharing your identity you implied that there was something wrong with those who do.

Okay, so you're just making shit up that I didn't say. Cool! Let me make it very clear for you, then: There is absolutely nothing wrong with announcing your identity to the world. Go for it if that's what you want to do. By the same coin, however, there should be zero pressure on you to do so because that's what you do when you're gay or trans or any other number of things. I don't like to pull out my identity in topics like this because my arguments are equally correct regardless of who makes them, but I'm openly pan and I crossdress and my partner is openly non-binary. You need to stop reading the worst possible intentions into what I say for no reason whatsoever.

StealThisSheen posted...

I'm gonna spoil this for you: The character didn't "announce" they were bi. They just... Ended up being bi, and it was "revealed" by a character relationship. But them merely existing, as a bisexual character, is considered "announcing" it to people like you, apparently.

Where have I said a single negative word about this specific instance or ANY instance of a character or person's identity being announced in the topic

super_felicia posted...

If they want to share their sexuality, why not?
if they want to share their pronouns let them.
If they are making being gay or lesbian their personality in your eyes so be it. Just dont make a fuss about it and let them do whatever its their life not yours do what you like and stop criticising why do you care enough to make a topic theyre not effecting your life whatsoever

I have not said anything to the contrary in this topic.

Vicious_Dios posted...

What prompted this topic, tc?

The 9-1-1 topic, obviously, but I know nothing about the context. I'm talking much more generally about angry mobs of terminally online people demanding that authors stop "queer baiting" by not explicitly stating a character's identities, and even more specifically about that demand actual human beings announce their identities because they're otherwise "appropriating" an identity that they may be in proximity to. If we want to treat not being straight or cis like the unexceptional things that they are, we should not have the expectation that they MUST be announced.

Some people are gay or trans or any other number of things and don't feel the need to announce it to the world, and there is nothing wrong with that. The same should go for fictional characters and (I don't know why this needs to be said) celebrities. You do not need to perform your identity in order to be valid.

6/10 baybee

Silent Hill, Pokemon Snap, DKC, and Mega Man X.

Nakushi literally means "no joy" lmao this is so fucked up

The way pitchers are currently used is utterly unsustainable.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1a293854.jpg

specialkid8 posted...

With love and respect, you've got to abandon this hill. That game is butt and everyone knows it.

or maybe it's good (second best in the series) and you're literally telling someone they're not allowed to like a game

bump

I like the game and I want to play more

Warp tiles, as long as nobody else can use them

Kaldrenthebold posted...

I'm sorry, US leading a UN resolution on a ceasefire in Gaza...means Biden supports genocide? That's really weird, didn't think that is how it worked.

Yes Hamas says "leave Gaza we stay in power and maybe you'll get hostages". Sounds like such a good deal. Hey, let's negotiate. You give me your house and money, and I'll stop posting to you. Deal? Sounds great.

I also like that the clip you posted says directly, US is backing these talks. Guess US IS trying to do a ceasefire, eh?

What if, imagine this, we had a system of elections called primaries where, now hold on, we can vote in people we want to represent us? What if, wild idea, we can start at a local level and install people that we agree with and filter that up towards the top? Cause, now understand this, decades of foreign policy is not something that can flip a switch like that.

Also, congress controls the purse strings. So again, elect people locally that will do what you please.

This is so embarrassing to read if it was actually posted in good faith.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

It was in the UN resolution that was just vetoed by Russia and China.

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/russia-china-veto-us-led-un-resolution-on-gaza-ceasefire/ar-BB1ko3ZR

A UN resolution has already passed. This is irrelevant.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Also Hamas just rejected another ceasfire:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hamas-official-says-no-progress-in-ceasefire-talks-despite-the-movement-s-flexibility/ar-BB1l4L6u

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/773b1bca.png
This is very clearly Israel rejecting a ceasefire, not Hamas. Do you even read your own articles?

Kaldrenthebold posted...

And yes, it turns out, Israel is an ally and we have literal DECADES of foreign policy with arms sales to them. This surprises you?

Okay, hear me out: What if we DON'T provide weapons to a country that we know will use them to indiscriminately slaughter anyone and everyone in Gaza? What if, and stay with me on this, we actually use the fact that Israel relies on us for weapons to make them STOP carpet bombing babies, by not selling them any more weapons until they stop perpetrating a genocide?

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Newsflash: Biden is pushing for a cease fire.

Where? Was it in the $18 billion dollar sale of F-15s he just did? Maybe the thousands of 1-ton bombs he just sent to Israel?

WingsOfGood posted...

that makes no sense

how is Biden beyond the Pale

take a look at the picture again

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef62e46c.jpg

How is supporting and aiding a genocide beyond the pale I don't get it look at my shiny picture

WingsOfGood posted...

but how would it make him lose the election?

because people doing the thing the guy in the pic is doing

you are legitimizing the thought

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef62e46c.jpg

Most people that aren't going to vote for Biden over Israel think that both candidates are beyond the pale and not worthy of their vote, not that they're equally bad.

WingsOfGood posted...

?

"Biden supporting genocide is going to lose him the election" and "Biden is exactly as bad as Trump" are not the same statement.

GrandConjuraton posted...

The majority of Americans support Israel, and the people most concerned about it are people who probably wouldn't have voted anyway.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ed02b23f.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a1d54d28.jpg
Please at least pretend to know anything about what you're talking about, I beg.

WingsOfGood posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef62e46c.jpg

Who is saying this in this topic

GrandConjuraton posted...

Implying Biden could lose because of the Israel situation seems like a low IQ take.

Dismissing any concerns about this obvious issue that anyone with eyes can see is costing Biden seems like a low IQ take

He has the numbers in front of him and has had them for months. Unconditionally supporting Israel's genocide of Palestine is the #1 thing that is killing his electoral chances. All he has to do is use one iota of mountains of the leverage he has over Israel and it would stop overnight, and he simply will not do it.

bluezero posted...

I guess let the fascist dictator in? Is that the point of this topic?

Biden has all the leverage in the world to end this genocide and he refuses to use one iota of it. If he loses the election, it is his fault.

Torgo posted...

Or...people in general. Don't eat people meat.

I don't think it's specifically people brains that do that