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I'm hilarious all the time (imo), it's just rarely appreciated <_<

PunishedBen posted...

Poor Ben. No fans it seems

And that was before we found out the the emperor had no clothes.

Leafeon13N posted...

FD is right
Though i prefer we dont say where i work in public forums.

This is work at night and then work in morning.

My bad -_-

I guess I thought it was common-ish knowledge, I'll be appropriately vague moving forward.

Will have to take your word for that then >_>

It's a great flavor/role combination in any case so I'm still on board to believe it. And yeah, no known scum turns from mr spell.

follow up question when you say you crafted the whole thing, did that begin at "A Message from Mr. Spell:" or "Who is Mr. Spell?"

1 post per night phase?

Bowser
Claptrap
Steve

Quite the arsenal of video game based movie roles.

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ya'll keep saying math. It was just a simple replacement cipher with an indicated shift. No math was involved -_-

changmas posted...

also like

i mean we only have one flip to go off of but Stinky Pete's an actual villain and I'm host-confirmed Mr. Spell

Did you craft the entire message that was sent? Or just the code part at the end?

I'm sure red is already awake, Dodgers home game starts in less than 3 hours and so he'll either be at work already or on his way.

UltimaterializerX posted...

FD how are we on the list?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6b28fbfb.png

Believe this should be accurate.

PunishedBen posted...

Come on, why are you asking why? There are multiple town motivations to do so.

I'm not seeing a town result to this action that doesn't create problems and complications.

And there could actually be a scum reason to want to gauge the reaction of the player who was blocked to find out if he is really power or just a vanilla pretending to be something. But that doesn't really line up with it being Knightz, but perhaps a player who is more experienced and knows what being roleblocked means.

It's just a crazy thing to have done and now to try and handwave as not meaning anything is crazier still.

Obellisk posted...

You didn't know he targeted Kirby.

You didn't know he was roleblocked.

You didn't know if someone alive had actually been gifted clothes.

Why did you openly claiming to have a gift unless you know damn well that no one does.

This. All of this.

2 topics* (from day 1)

I mean there are only 2 pages. For all the complaining it would probably only take 15 minutes to just go get correct votals <_<

I'd do it, but I don't want to. Screw your day 1.

ItzKnightz posted...

That's the mystery I'll look into that role and see what I can find. The closest I got to that role is Mass Redirecter.

But if you were "blocked" then your action did not occur last night. Which means NO ONE could have gotten a gift from you. Not Ben or anyone else.

I guess we could invent a role that might do it?

I'd have to imagine it would be a scum role that targets someone to roleblock them, but also mimics their power (if they have one) and targets someone else with it randomly?

Are there any Toy Story flavors that might fit that?

I can buy the roleblock thinking on it. Kirby being power was a lucky shot and Lopen was probably an EK, so if Knightz is town and if there is a scum blocker then why not take the layup and block the guy who claimed he could give people gifts.

but I don't know how Ben's interaction fits into this at all.

Obellisk posted...

PunishedBen posted...

Oh yeah and thank you for the gift last night, Knightz

Looks like we got some splainin to do

Now that is interesting...

ctesjbuvf posted...

Does FD actually think "he was right" here?

I don't think I was right. I know I was right. We would objectively be in a better position today if we had followed through on the NL and I surmise that would be true much more often than not if we had to repeat day 1 from IGCD's flip multiple times.

We traded a town scanning role and a vanilla for jack shit. By all means there was discuss had, but unless that discussion leads to something tangible it was giving more than we got.

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Corrik7 posted...

Nobody believed that.

Apparently the scum team did or he would still be alive. I would be shocked if Lopen's death wasn't the result of an unblockable EK. And therefor Kirby would be the result of an odd-night killing SK (to balance the even-night killing scum team?)

That probably makes him not scum somehow?

Updated! didn't look enough like a list when i skimmed ;)

foolm0r0n posted...

I heard they called each other scum in that topic

Oh great, gonna lose another account I guess :(

Updated list. Now featuring Red and Corrik who somehow didn't get copied over the first time:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f90a8b56.png

You see multiple numbers between 1-26 after a message that specifically tells you to decode it and you are going to think that those are supposed to be letters. Then you look for a way to adjust the letters into something that makes sense.

Now as far as the REST of the message there may be some hidden meanings there that I'm overlooking, but it also might have all simply been set dressing for the "Chang" message.

I assumed at least half of us would have gotten there.

ItzKnightz posted...

Oh plus I'm going to update my list to:
Ctes
Ulti
Corrik

So still leaving in the mason? That's a bold choice, Cotton.

As someone already mentioned a "Mason" is by definition a member of Town. Unless someone ELSE is Kirby's mason-buddy then Ulti must be town.

There is a difference between "Masons" and "Neighbors". Both can talk to each other in a separate chat, but Masons are by definition town and neighbors might be town, but aren't guaranteed.

Gonna wait for him to confirm.

Could be someone else is a messenger and for some reason decided to throw a chang code in there (for reasons ?!) as a misdirect?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f1284acb.png

Still need list of 3 from a bunch of people and Knightz might want to update his since he has a dead person and a mason on his list.

PunishedBen posted...

When Chang does get here he should just explain why he left that Mr. Spell message. Don't see a point in keeping it secret

<_<

I mean yeah, Chang is mr spell if you're just gonna come out and say it.

8: For me, he is everything.
I claim TOWN Messenger, that's the only thing.

11 16 9 22 15

Convert to letters: K P I V O
Shift back 8 spaces: C H A N G

So i guess the question is, was Chang in charge of writing his own message? And he's just declaring HIMSELF to be town? Or is that some kind of host flavor?

UltimaterializerX posted...

Im both on mobile and have a stomach virus, so Id like a small favor. Can someone list the living players with their list of 3 next to them please?

Sounds like a job for FD. Im legit too weak rn to get out of bed and go on PC to make a list -_-

Yeah I'll start putting together my spreadsheet for this game. Wasn't sure if I'd be alive today so I didn't work on it overnight =P

Concrete? Possibly.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I know youre town FD, calm down.

3 scum names por favor?

If i had to pick 3 now I'd say i maybe feel the worst about Lea, Ben and Red?

For a comedy option maybe throw in knightz who was somehow expertly coached into his early game posts as scum gift giver. Ken was on the bad guy team for most of toy story 3 lets not forget so he wouldn't even have to lie about flavor.

Pretty sure chang is good though

Obellisk posted...

No, I was fully against ever lynching lopen and saw no reason for his lynch to be picking up steam.

Whatever occurred there was absolutely fueled by scum influence.

It was fueled by NOT simply accepting a day 1 NL.

It didn't matter WHO the pressure ended up on, there was a reasonable chance that multiple people would be forced to claim and there was just no reason to give scum that potential edge after their godfather ate a bullet. No reason at all.

And today we obviously lynch, but we didn't need to yesterday and you are all just objectively wrong for it, not just from the hindsight of how things played out, but because of how day ones TYPICALLY play out. Just awful.

UltimaterializerX posted...

We could just kill FD since hes trying to live by going afk. Plenty of time left.

Also screw you for this. It was april 15th, I work for the IRS, and immediately after work I spent 90 minutes in a dentist's chair. I do not "try to live by going afk".

I didn't bother to announce my departure because I was still hoping ya'll would do the sensible thing and NOT screw over town power by forcing them to claim. Alas.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Mzero (7) -Sbell, (Kirby), Red, Lopen, (Ulti), Ben, kirby, ctes, Itzknightz
FD (3) - Mzero, (Corrik), (Ulti), Ben, (Ulti), (Ulti), Corrik
Lopen (3) - (itzkinghtz) (Corrik, )(Kirby,) Lea, Chang, (Ctes,) (Chang), (Kirby), ulti

To recap:

you all forced the tracker to claim and got him killed. Shame on you all.

Then you killed a town and you were LUCKY he was only vanilla. Suppose He had been a protection role??

thirdly the end of day votals show @punishben with votes in two places. Either he's double voter or there was an error. I wasn't around at EoD so I didn't call attention to it yesterday.

And lastly I *am* in fact town so that means 12/14 people voted for town at least and I was town who voted for NL so the only vote that MIGHT have been on a scum day 1 would be Knightz' vote on Lea.

Obellisk posted...

He claimed tracker. that's why he died

IF only we could have PREVENTED THAT SOMEHOW.

Screw you guys and I freaking told you so.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Regardless, we should probably mass.

Not if you actually have a guilty scan.

We bury the guilty person and hope there is still a relevant town power somewhere that we haven't gotten killed

(Edit: phone/swipe correction)

Obellisk posted...

I haven't the foggiest. and I don't get the numbers. tried making a word with them from the poem, it was a fools errand

Oh, well I know exactly who it is at least.

Evidently there was no prize for figuring it out, I asked

If no one else claims Mason then Ulti's word today is gospel by default.

Though I feel like the chance of him having an innocent scan and pretending to have a guilty scan are pretty damn high

So it's obvious from the clues who Mr spell is right?

Like that was very easy to crack?

What they don't seem to understand is that on board 8 we have already gone out of our way to sequester our political discussion.

Also we don't care about CE or it's legacy, we just don't understand why it affects us

I don't know where I'm supposed to share information like this anymore:

https://twitter.com/mzjacobson/status/1779614175075197142?t=QYlNR_wei1ZPp9gCEsKIuA&s=19

Obellisk posted...

FD, a lynch is happening.

Look at the top 4.

Lopen (2) - Lea, Chang, (Chang), (Kirby)
FD (2) - Mzero, Corrik, (Ulti)
Lea (2) - Lopen, Itzknightz
Mzero (2)- Kirby, Red

Obviously one is you, don't look at that one. But it's a big tie. You can't find a single reason to distrust any of the other 3? Not a single reason to believe one is lying to you? Have you done nothing but soapbox NL?

So what you're saying is that if even 1 person votes NL with me it will be tied also

Leafeon13N posted...

FD what the hell is this.

I've been pretty clear. I'm not going to cast a vote that will contribute to forcing the bullshit day 1 claims we always wind up forcing and watch as scum gets a ton of information that we could have avoided.

Maybe we should start a new game of "mafia". It will be government themed and the day phases will last 8760 hours.

ctesjbuvf posted...

In the trash bin.

Next best option is to hope you guys don't screw up, good luck. I don't want to contribute to a methodology that I believe is flawed.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Votals in Al's Toy Barn

Where did my NL vote go?

KamikazePotato posted...

My experience with the IRS is them randomly sending me a five-digit bill that, one phone call later, turned into zero digits because they'd fucked up and it turns out I didn't actually owe anything.

I don't like the IRS.

Hope that wasn't my fault

UltimaterializerX posted...

My hope here is he gets specialed later (FD is scum running blatant interference for Lopen), FD dies tomorrow, a scanner finds the other 1-2 and we call it a day.

Uhh what? I'm running interference for Lopen how exactly?

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Tell that to Ulti then, lol. And my only vibe (other than busy) has been supporting the risk mitigation play.

But if that isn't going to happen then I truly hope you lynch scum

UltimaterializerX posted...

IGCD likes to pocket impressionable town, hence we can skip bothering to scan Knight at all. Easiest read in awhile.

telling scanners what to do again, I see

UltimaterializerX posted...

Mass claim if the first death is scum is analytically correct and always works.

1 anecdote of it working does not a factual statement make.