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Mead posted...

Trump is fucking dumb

As are the people who elected him.
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Foppe posted...

There's only one sunset, and it's been going around the earth for billions of years.

Copernicus would like a word with you.
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not__shawn__z posted...

slurp slurp please love me daddy

lol
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He's talking out of both sides of his mouth and his ass, simultaneously.
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Mead posted...

I love that trump is simultaneously insisting that Russian meddling doesnt matter while also blaming Obama for not warning him about it earlier

While also warning his base that Russian meddling may effect upcoming elections in the Dems favor.
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To be clear, I'm not trying to "vouch" for the game. I don't give a shit if you like the game or not. Plenty of people dislike Bloodborne. It's not for everyone. My own brother isn't crazy about Bloodborne, but at least he's smart enough to realize that it's a well-made, well-designed game. And he's competent enough to have made it through a few bosses before he gave up and decided the game wasn't quite to his liking. If you had said that you found Bloodborne to be boring, or that you didn't enjoy the combat, or didn't appreciate the progression system, etc etc... those are all valid complaints based on opinion, of which you are entitled.

Where you are wrong - and make no mistake, you are wrong - is in your assertion that the game is poorly designed. Heck, had you said that the game design was not to your liking, that would've been fine. That's a matter of personal taste.

What is not a matter of taste, however, is the quality of the game's design. The game is well-designed. It's a pretty solid game, over all.

That you can't even manage to find a single boss or figure out how to meaningfully progress in the game speaks to your ineptitude more than it does to the quality of the game.

That I don't complete a larger percentage of the games that I play in comparison to you is not germane to this discussion. We're talking about one game: Bloodborne. For the record, I buy a lot of games. Have very little time to play them. Often, I'll play a game for an hour or so, see if I like it. If it doesn't hold my interest, I'll move on. Might come back to it later. Might not. Aside from this, we don't know what percentage of games you don't complete, because you won't share your PSN, and even if you were to share it, you conveniently have it set to not show games in your collection that are sitting at 0%. But this is all irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Stay focused, son.

I bolded the part that I did because it's true. No argument that you've made so far makes this untrue. I'm not reposting this to "save face", I'm doing so because it still stands to reason, with each and every post you've made thus far. So, once again:

Far-Queue posted...

Nothing you've said makes this untrue:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

Your singular experience doesn't define the quality of the product. Even if there are others who are so inept as you are, to the point where they can't even find a single boss to fight, there is most certainly a majority who played the game and got along just fine.

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You're bad at this. Here we go again:

Far-Queue posted...

Nothing you've said makes this untrue:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

Your singular experience doesn't define the quality of the product. Even if there are others who are so inept as you are, to the point where they can't even find a single boss to fight, there is most certainly a majority who played the game and got along just fine.

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Your skull must be 4 inches thick, but hopefully this gets through to you at some point.
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DPsx7 posted...

You forgot to add a new thought

I don't need to, as

Far-Queue posted...

Nothing you've said makes this untrue:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

Your singular experience doesn't define the quality of the product. Even if there are others who are so inept as you are, to the point where they can't even find a single boss to fight, there is most certainly a majority who played the game and got along just fine.

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Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

More inane stuff.

Nothing you've said makes this untrue:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

Your singular experience doesn't define the quality of the product. Even if there are others who are so inept as you are, to the point where they can't even find a single boss to fight, there is most certainly a majority who played the game and got along just fine.

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DPsx7 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

More inane stuff.

Nothing you've said makes this untrue:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

Actually it does. You said a few people played it but never explained what they used for reference or how long it took. Nowhere did you counter the fact that a game that takes days to figure out is not designed well. "Some people figured it out so it must be ok" is not good logic.

Nope. Wrong again. Your singular experience doesn't define the quality of the product. Even if there are others who are so inept as you are, to the point where they can't even find a single boss to fight, there is most certainly a majority who played the game and got along just fine.
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"Telekinsis"
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DPsx7 posted...

More inane stuff.

Nothing you've said makes this untrue:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

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Flip it so the 0% shows up. Otherwise, you're lying and you never actually played the game.

And since you can't figure out that you're wrong, just like you can't figure out how to play Bloodborne, I'll just repost this:

When you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a s*** excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.

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DPsx7 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

"I've played lots of games, so I can't possibly be terrible at this game!"

Nah son. You're terrible at the game and have no clue what you're talking about.

Wrong again. I tried it. I know full well what I'm talking about. It won't appear on my list since I didn't earn any trophies. Would have been next to GTA and Giana Sisters. Unlike the kids on YT I'm not being paid to upvote trash games. I've no reason to lie about my experience.

Yes it will. Post your PSN name. It should show up on PSNProfiles even if you're at 0%.

Here's mine, in case you feel vulnerable for whatever reason posting you PSN name.

https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/3431-bloodborne/TheLord_HUMUNGUS

And yes, when you claim that you can't find a single boss after hours of play, you're terrible at the game. You can't blame the game design. You can deny it all you want, but it's true. It's fine if you dislike the game. But claiming the game is designed poorly just because you're incapable of doing what thousands, if not millions, of others have done is just a shit excuse. The game itself, while not perfect, is designed well enough to have earned accolades from critics and gamers alike. You're too inept to figure the game out.
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DPsx7 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

You're trying to take this in a different direction. You seem to be forgetting that this whole thing started because you admitted that you're terrible at the game and seem to blame your complete inability to figure the game out - where others have figured it out just fine - on the developers and "poor design". It's not the game. It's you. If you weren't completely awful, you could find a boss within the first hour, easily. If you're halfway decent at the game, you could find a boss in half that time. Funny you bring up how you wish the game were more linear. It's not exactly a maze with branching paths. Some of the routes you take circle back to earlier areas, but it's not hard to figure out where you need to go, if you have any sense to you.

Stop trying to protect a bad game. It's not my fault. I have years of experience with a huge variety of games so trying to blame me isn't going to work. The part of the game that was unlocked wasn't hard at all. It wasn't until I was partway into GTA that someone said the first boss is literally an easter egg hidden behind some secret blocked off side path. I probably walked by it once or twice. If I need to waste days scouring for a tiny path or rush to a walkthrough for the first area then yeah I'm going to blame bad design.

It's like giving people a word search and not telling them the words to look for. Big difference between 'challenge' and 'vague because we can and F you'. So when I weigh my choices between BB or moving on to better games like UC4, MGS5, Farcry 4, Doom, Last Guardian, or other major games I've not gotten to yet like Horizon, RE7, Hitman, Dishonored 2, Breath of the Wild, etc, it was easy to dump BB to the dud pile.

That's just it. Everything led back to the same point so I knew I wasn't missing anything. A few gates opened, important ones stayed locked. Still, if I was at least earning something for my repeated trips through the campfire area then maybe I'd have stuck around longer. I saw it all in the first hour or so. The remainder of the 3 hours was stuck on repeat.

"I've played lots of games, so I can't possibly be terrible at this game!"

Nah son. You're terrible at the game and have no clue what you're talking about.
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DPsx7 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 can't figure out a game that millions of other people have figured out: "It's the game's fault!"

I didn't want to sit through an online walkthrough. Besides, having a lot of players doesn't save it.

Point wasn't how many people played BB as much as how many people played it and figured it out for themselves. Many played BB without a guide and got on just fine. But please, tell us more about how developers should tailor their games to fit snugly around your inadequacies.

'Many' isn't a very clear number. If you want to waste days trying to figure out a game then great. I have way too much else to play to fart away a week on 'world 1'. If I wanted a puzzle game I'd have chosen something else.

Don't get me wrong it's not that I support the extra hand-holding some games offer. I started on the NES and can appreciate tougher games. However I'm not going to write excuses for a poorly designed game that decided to be vague not for challenge but just to be annoying. At least if it was linear then I'd have something to work with. Here you just go in circles, not making ANY kind of progress for my effort. All I managed was buying armor, stockpile potions for a game that never started, and earn ammo for a gun that did absolutely nothing. No maps, no items, no NPC's, no online, no levels, no fun.

My guess is this game launched during a time where people wanted to brag about it versus what XB had. XB never had anything and BB wasn't good enough to ever brag about. And it takes a special kind of dud for me to put a game away before seeing the credits. I'm talking like less than 5% of games I start.

You're trying to take this in a different direction. You seem to be forgetting that this whole thing started because you admitted that you're terrible at the game and seem to blame your complete inability to figure the game out - where others have figured it out just fine - on the developers and "poor design". It's not the game. It's you. If you weren't completely awful, you could find a boss within the first hour, easily. If you're halfway decent at the game, you could find a boss in half that time. Funny you bring up how you wish the game were more linear. It's not exactly a maze with branching paths. Some of the routes you take circle back to earlier areas, but it's not hard to figure out where you need to go, if you have any sense to you.
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DPsx7 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 can't figure out a game that millions of other people have figured out: "It's the game's fault!"

I didn't want to sit through an online walkthrough. Besides, having a lot of players doesn't save it.

Point wasn't how many people played BB as much as how many people played it and figured it out for themselves. Many played BB without a guide and got on just fine. But please, tell us more about how developers should tailor their games to fit snugly around your inadequacies.
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Hannity spent his entire interview with Trump generously fellating the spineless Putin puppet. Big surprise.
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DPsx7 can't figure out a game that millions of other people have figured out: "It's the game's fault!"
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SkynyrdRocker posted...

Break something your girlfriend cares about

Like her hymen.
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KaptainKiro posted...

Far-Queue posted...

after they make comments about hanging blacks and killing minorities

zero proof this actually happened lol

Except for, you know, that eyewitness testimony. There's that.
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Metal_Mario99 posted...

So, you're okay with violence against kids? Good to know.

I'm okay with violence against racist scumbags.
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Throwing a drink in someone's face after they make comments about hanging blacks and killing minorities is a pretty tame response, to be honest. Kid is lucky he didn't get his ass kicked.

But okay. You keep on defending racist assholes.
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Metal_Mario99 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.

Like the guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat and threw a drink in his face?

The guy who stole a kid's MAGA hat after overhearing that kid joking about fucking lynchings? Is that what you're referring to?
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Damn, Jeffries calling the entirety of the GOP + Trump to the carpet
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It's embarrassing. Trump has taken us to a new low.

His shenanigans with NATO today were a complete farce. Completely manufactured a crisis steeped in outright lies, then comes out of a half hour meeting claiming he's completely fixed NATO and deserves credit and praise for doing literally nothing but bitch and moan about shit that he made up!

If any of his supporters actually buy into the bullshit he was dishing up today, they're bigger idiots than I'd thought. I mean, we all know he lies every time he opens his fat, dumb mouth, but this NATO shit was on another level.
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Oh hey, more racist, Trump-fellating assholes. Imagine my surprise.
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ShinVegaI posted...

Response?

Shut up.
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I almost got a woman pregnant today

I was within one meter of a woman. Practically inside her at that point.
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I really enjoyed The Mummy Demastered. Phenomenal soundtrack.

Playing a Metroidvania called Omega Strike right now. It's okay. Nothing special.
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Sony KD55X720E HD TV

Just got it on sale for like $450. It's pretty nice but from what I understand it's last year's model and not a "full" HDTV. I'm happy with it for what it cost, though.
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Zeus posted...

tbh, there should be some good reason for the change. I hate games where weak enemies are replaced by stronger ones with no story-explanation for it.

Also, it'd be neat if the rooms changed slightly while backtracking (ie, things may fall down -- maybe even blocking other passages (and requiring a tool to reopen them) -- the background looks a bit different, etc), provided that there's a storyline reason for it.

Agreed.
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Same time post!
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keyblader1985 posted...

To add to Far-Queue's suggestion, one way to break up the potential monotony of backtracking is to have a semi-powerful enemy that has a small random chance of appearing in any previously visited area. You could tie it into the story; have a miniboss that holds a grudge against the hero or something.

I like this.
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Metroidvania games usually have a fair amount of backtracking, as you gain new abilities that allow you past obstacles you've encountered in earlier stages. I don't mind this, but one thing about this aspect I dislike is when the enemies remain the same. You get increasingly powerful, but enemies in the early areas are the same low-level riffraff. It's cool when a game mixes it up and throws a curveball or two your way. Introduce a few new enemies, or make the enemies stronger, or even alter the level so it's not what you expect when you return.
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Absolver is really fun. That's the other freebie this month.
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Does anyone know what happened to him? I heard rumors he may have taken his own life. Hope it's not true.
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What a dummy. Says he did it to make a statement about Trump's sexual abuse allegations, but he left Kevin Spacey's star untouched literally right next to Trump's.

Also, what planet is he from where he thinks he can auction the letters off for over a million dollars?!

Also also, does he think Trump gives a shit?
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Mead posted...

https://www.apnews.com/4cb60fc06ca34160bf7445fdc1f47eed

A lot of stuff nowadays makes me roll my eyes, but this just makes me angry and ashamed that this is the US now.

It's disgusting and shameful. And those who defend the practice are simple-minded cretins.

Treating migrants with a sense of compassion, respect, and humanity does not equate to having wide-open, unchecked borders. We can both police the border while not being heartless assholes about it.
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Dynalo posted...

You guys ever run into unique animals?

I once ran across a manticore. It ate my brother, but it did it majesticly.
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Far-Queue posted...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/08/thailand-cave-rescue-begins-operation-bring-first-group-trapped3/

6 now. So glad this is going well. Hope their good fortune continues.

I guess that update was premature. It's only four boys out so far, they're waiting to replenish oxygen supplies before attempting any more extractions.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/08/thailand-cave-rescue-begins-operation-bring-first-group-trapped3/

6 now. So glad this is going well. Hope their good fortune continues.
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St_Kevin posted...

especially TC

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PK_Spam posted...

*It not use

I need to start fucking spell checking my shit

You need to start spell-checking your spell-checking, too.
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It's not as arcade-y as SSX, but Steep is a pretty solid winter sports game. I've had a lot of fun with it.

But yeah, a new SSX would be nice.
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Sarcasthma posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

Which guy supports pedophilia?

I don't see the thread, either.

Yellow posted...

Then there was this unexplained blurt

RoboXgp89 posted...

Again I think I'd rather have sex with the child and the woman.

wtf
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LinkPizza posted...

Far-Queue posted...

30 hours for BotW is pretty good by comparison, and that's discounting the fact that TC likely has barely scratched the surface of that game.

Most people seem to have logged hundreds of hours into that game. Well, the ones I know, at least. It seems like he's been missing out on some things, maybe...

I've got over 200 hours into it, and I know for a fact that I haven't seen everything in the game yet.
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Revelation34 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

Exactly. Can still complete it in short time.

The game is more fun without warping.

Agreed. I was just making the point that there is a sizable portion of the gaming community who seem to think games are too short today, when in reality they're much longer in many cases. SMB 3 can be beat in less than an hour, even without being some world-class speedrunner, and it's widely considered one of the greatest games of all time. 30 hours for BotW is pretty good by comparison, and that's discounting the fact that TC likely has barely scratched the surface of that game.
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