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https://www.yahoo.com/news/transient-charged-stabbing-man-death-restaurant-235930336.html

A homeless man was charged Friday with murder in a random attack on a California father who was stabbed in the neck as his 5-year-old daughter sat in his lap in a crowded beachside steakhouse.

Jamal Jackson, 49, was charged with first-degree murder in the death of 35-year-old Anthony Mele. He was being held in Ventura County jail on a $1.5 million bail. It's unclear if he has an attorney to speak on his behalf.

Mele and his wife were eating dinner with their daughter Wednesday at Aloha Steakhouse in Ventura. The girl was sitting in her father's lap when prosecutors say Jackson walked up and stabbed Mele in the neck.

Prosecutor Richard Simon said patrons and a restaurant employee followed Jackson out of the restaurant, even though he still had the knife. They kept track of him until police arrived and arrested him.

Mele was taken to a hospital and died Thursday after being taken off life support.

"It's horrible," Simon said. "You don't think you're going to be killed when you go out to dinner at a nice restaurant with your family and you didn't do anything."

Simon said the two men had not interacted before the attack.

"He was just sitting there with his daughter in his lap," Simon said. "You're not supposed to die that way."

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Why would I not take that deal?
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CrimsonRage posted...

darkjedilink posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

So does he always side against the minority race no matter what? If so... the few times he actually sides on the correct side of the issue, which is always against minorities.. does he use that to magically justify he isn't racist? Did I get that right?

How many times were black people in the right on CE?

daily reminder darkjedilink blames liberals for his wife leaving him and not his terrible personality

lol wut?
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So does he always side against the minority race no matter what? If so... the few times he actually sides on the correct side of the issue, which is always against minorities.. does he use that to magically justify he isn't racist? Did I get that right?
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The Admiral posted...

k darkfire posted...

But, it's ok for Admiral to get his news from biased places because he's always right

The hilarious thing is that if anyone used a right-leaning source even half as biased as Rawstory, everyone bitching about me in this topic would be attacking the TC. But since none of you guys want to refute an exaggerated racism, you all hypocritically overlook it.

So you ignore proof that you are full of shit and keep up this act. I can't expect a racist to back off even with presented with facts so it's no surprise
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The Admiral posted...

CableZL posted...

The Admiral posted...

The second article refutes the Rawstory claims, so no it isn't.

No, it doesn't refute the Rawstory claims. You're misrespresenting the MLive article with your own claims.

It most certainly does. You harp on me about the dates of when the students tore the confederate flag from a car, and yet completely overlook that Rawstory conflated this protest with a completely unrelated story about a kid on the football team being harassed to make this seem like some deluge of organized racism.

I'm sorry that you got pissy about being called out for your hypocrisy.

I read the MLive article from top to bottom and didn't see this.

http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2018/04/trucks_park_outside_bay_city_w.html

Where does it refute the previous article at in here?
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

The leak also claims that there are some similar elements to the Lawbreakers title,

Please don't tell me anyone actually believes any of this is true

Charlie intel said their own sources confirmed it as well. When it comes to Call of Duty.. Charlie Intel is more credible than anyone else
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Highwind07 posted...

Wait, wait, they got rid of the perks and the killstreaks...

I mean Black Ops 3 specialists have somewhat like ultimate abilities but it still played a lot like a CoD would.

Pretty much. They are back peddling now after internal play testers told them how fucking dumb that was. I swear... Treyarch was suppose to be the savior... If they don't get this right, which they won't based on this shit show, Call of Duty is finished. They already fucked up with the "lol no MP for MW2 Remastered" and "lol no Campagain" for BO4.
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CableZL posted...

This reminds me of one of the topics about the people who drove around terrorizing a black kid's birthday party waving guns, shouting racial slurs, and making death threats. Admiral said "it was just one person driving around" because he didn't read the article or watch the video in the article.

I remember that! LMAO
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The Admiral posted...

CableZL posted...

The Admiral posted...

It would help if you were consistent with criticizing the TC for posting inaccurate clickbait like you would anyone on the right who did the same.

You're claiming it's inaccurate based on your lack of ability to properly read a second slightly-related article.

The second article refutes the Rawstory claims, so no it isn't.

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Genocet_10-325 posted...

Mods lock this

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It sounds like a shittier version of Overwatch. Why would I play that instead of Overwatch LMAO. Also...

https://twitter.com/charlieintel/status/987003866179866624?s=21

We've heard that Black Ops 4's MP is not modern based, despite some earlier rumors. We have heard game has advanced movement and is not full boots on the ground.

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https://charlieintel.com/2018/04/19/rumor-new-call-of-duty-black-ops-4-leaks-indicates-mp-is-similar-to-overwatch/

The leak claims that Black Ops 4s MP is similar to the Overwatch experience, which lines up with information that charlieINTEL has heard about Black Ops 4s MP mode.

The leak also claims that there are some similar elements to the Lawbreakers title, a game which was basically a replica of Overwatch developed by Boss Key. The leak states that Black Ops 4 features a mixture of boots on the ground and advanced movements with many changes to the games core systems.

Heres the full leak that the user posted:

New Multiplayer information has been confirmed by more than one source so I can now talk about that more publicly. As of two days ago Multiplayer was in the worst state you have ever seen a Call of Duty multiplayer mode. Sources who have play-tested the mode claim that it is less like a call of duty mode and more like a Call of Duty Overwatch or a Call of Duty Lawbreakers. The Lawbreakers reference is incredibly apt considering what he told me next. Remember how I said the game was simultaneously boots on the ground and advanced movement? Well I can elaborate on that a little more too. The game was going to take the hero or specialist system from Black Ops 3 and take it to the next level. Perks were basically removed completely, and had instead been morphed into a strange kind of Kill Streak. Normal Killstreaks as we know them, for example harrier jets or chopper gunners, didnt in fact exist in this version of Black Ops 4. Instead you got highly powerful perks. One of which was a Movement Alteration. It literally changed your movement from Boots on The Ground to something very strongly resembling Black Ops 3s advanced movement systems.

This fell flat with playtesters. They didnt like it at all. It was deemed an unfair portrayal of Call of Duty, and something that wouldnt resonate with fans in the slightest. So, as of the last play test, things are changing. Actual Killstreaks are being entered into the game and the hero systems are being scaled back a little bit. What this does mean is that the game is in fact beginning to resemble more and more the state of the game in Black Ops 3. What this means for the future of BO4 I do not know. Currently my information does not stretch to what the mode will become, only to what it very recently was. With the community reveal only weeks away I am truly concerned for Call of Duty Black Ops 4, and even more concerned for Treyarch as a development studio. This is tighter than it has ever been.

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"There has to be more to the story"

I never see this for other stories not related to race. Especially blacks
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DifferentialEquation posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

DifferentialEquation posted...

Obviously you can't make something like slavery or segregation go away by ignoring it. But today, aside from people sometimes using racial slurs to push people's buttons, there's no racism left. So yes, ignoring those people will make them stop or go away.

I should have clarified. I was speaking only about the United States, not the entire world.

I should have clarified


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This topic is still here?
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Obviously you can't make something like slavery or segregation go away by ignoring it. But today, aside from people sometimes using racial slurs to push people's buttons, there's no racism left. So yes, ignoring those people will make them stop or go away.

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The Admiral posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Admiral posted...

Racism would improve if people stopped obsessing it about and looking for reasons to think any slight or negative experience was due to skin color.

You say this, but pretty much every topic you post is in regards to race.

You say this, as though an ad homimem is a relevant response to that post.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The Admiral posted...

Racism would improve if people stopped obsessing it about and looking for reasons to think any slight or negative experience was due to skin color.

You say this, but pretty much every topic you post is in regards to race.

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So... Black Ops 4 is dropping single player for a Battle Royal mode according to sources

https://twitter.com/charlieintel/status/986382213678743552?s=21
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https://www.polygon.com/2018/4/17/17248230/call-of-duty-black-ops-4-single-player-cod-blops

The sources, who asked for anonymity, said that as Black Ops 4s release date approached, it became evident that development on the single-player campaign wouldnt be completed. One source said Treyarch has since focused Black Ops 4s development on expanding multiplayer and the series popular Zombies mode. The source described an emphasis on cooperative modes as a potential stand-in for the typical single-player campaign experience.

https://twitter.com/charlieintel/status/986382213678743552?s=21

UPDATE: Kotaku has confirmed with two of their sources that Black Ops 4 will NOT have a single player campaign and that a Battle Royale mode IS in the works...

I don't play much single player and I trust Treyarch but this kind of move could be the grave of Call of Duty
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Bishop9800 posted...

And poof!! They were never seen again.

What's so bad is that the company already said they screwed up earlier
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Shizno
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The Admiral posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

The Admiral posted...

An employee said the Starbucks company policy was to refuse use of the bathrooms to non-paying members of the public and asked the men to leave, according to Ross. The employee called the police when they refused.

Also, other people said that a woman was allowed to use the bathroom without buying anything. Plus there were a group of people (more the two people Addy) who was in the back and they didn't order anything. So now SB policy is to only enforce the rule if you're black?

Like I said yesterday before you guys started getting pissy, the facts of the case are basically

> They were violating the store policy
> They were asked by a manager who was within his rights to order something or leave
> They refused to comply
> They were told by the police repeatedly to leave
> They refused to comply

The only argument you guys have is that you don't like the outcome here. You have absolutely no argument to make that this was unjustified based on the above.

I like how you completely ignore the question. So I'll ask you again.... other people said that a woman was allowed to use the bathroom without buying anything. Plus there were a group of people (more the two people Addy) who was in the back and they didn't order anything. So now SB policy is to only enforce the rule if you're black?

Admiral keeps ignoring the big Elephant in the room. The main issue that he refuses to address.

That's not the main issue. Arguing that "they don't consistently enforce the rule" does not mean it's wrong when they do.

And unless you have more evidence of blacks being targeted beyond the claims of this one woman who is well-versed in oppression rhetoric and clearly wanted this to go viral, you don't have any basis to make that claim. I find it incredibly unlikely that in Philly -- where blacks are the largest racial group -- that stores and discriminating against them.

What I bolded is 100% the main issue. Sure it looks like s race thing but even if they were white... that doesn't matter. If you have a policy like that then you clearly display it and you follow it at all times. Period. If they did that then this would have never happened. Guess what? They don't. That's the issue.

I go to a small gift shop all the time at work. Sometimes I forget my wallet. They tell me to pay it back tomorrow. I consistently do this. If I grab something and tell a coworker as I'm leaving I'll pay for it tomorrow like I always do.. then I get arrested for theft... Are you just going to give zero blame to the company and all of it to me because they considered that theft by policy, and common sense, even though the company has consistently let me do that to the point where it became comfortable?

Starbucks deserves the blame here for being lax on their policy.
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Capn Circus posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

Capn Circus posted...

There's much more that wasn't filmed and I'll absolutely bet on them having done something.

Really? So in your opinion, what was the "something" they did?

Not sure. But I feel there's more to the story than what the woman chose to show us. You can tell by how she wrote and what she specifically chose to film that she had an agenda and wanted this to go viral.

People don't film right away when any controversy happens. Sometimes you think about it later when it actually escalates. That isn't some red flag lmao
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Bishop9800 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

The Admiral posted...

An employee said the Starbucks company policy was to refuse use of the bathrooms to non-paying members of the public and asked the men to leave, according to Ross. The employee called the police when they refused.

Also, other people said that a woman was allowed to use the bathroom without buying anything. Plus there were a group of people (more the two people Addy) who was in the back and they didn't order anything. So now SB policy is to only enforce the rule if you're black?

Like I said yesterday before you guys started getting pissy, the facts of the case are basically

> They were violating the store policy
> They were asked by a manager who was within his rights to order something or leave
> They refused to comply
> They were told by the police repeatedly to leave
> They refused to comply

The only argument you guys have is that you don't like the outcome here. You have absolutely no argument to make that this was unjustified based on the above.

I like how you completely ignore the question. So I'll ask you again.... other people said that a woman was allowed to use the bathroom without buying anything. Plus there were a group of people (more the two people Addy) who was in the back and they didn't order anything. So now SB policy is to only enforce the rule if you're black?

Admiral keeps ignoring the big Elephant in the room. The main issue that he refuses to address.
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darkjedilink posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

InYourWalls1 posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

So, show us where that's SB policy.

"An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear."

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html

Well, I guess that settles it.

The Starbucks official acknowledged that the incident is at odds with what many people have done at a Starbucks without drawing suspicion or calls to police. The stores are community hubs, the official said, where people often drop in to use Wi-Fi or chat with friends without necessarily ordering anything.

And? Was the manager following policy as written or no?

I don't know. They haven't shown us the policy. Even if they did follow policy.. You don't see the issue with that? If they decide to pull this policy out for two black men but just ignore it for everyone else.. That's a fucking problem no matter if the actual policy said it or not.
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darkjedilink posted...

InYourWalls1 posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

So, show us where that's SB policy.

"An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear."

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html

Well, I guess that settles it.

The Starbucks official acknowledged that the incident is at odds with what many people have done at a Starbucks without drawing suspicion or calls to police. The stores are community hubs, the official said, where people often drop in to use Wi-Fi or chat with friends without necessarily ordering anything.
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The Admiral posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

Conflict posted...

The Admiral posted...

As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.

It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place

Exactly! It's like you are trying to separate the issue.

Let's say someone is getting shot at and their are running for they life. They try to run across the street and get struck by a car.

Admiral would say, "He shouldn't have ran across the street. Why he ran across the street? That's another argument."

That's fucking silly

That analogy is silly and completely irrelevant.

Not sure how many times people need to be reminded that arguing with the cops and refusing to comply is only going to get you arrested. The cops have no authority to mediate the situation once they arrive. If they tell you to leave a store, you're either doing so willingly or in cuffs, there is no other scenario. Any beef the men might have had for being kicked out unfairly is a civil legal matter at that point and should be handled that way.

That isn't the fucking point. Everyone knows the cops just did their job. That's not the issue. The issue is that they where fucking called. Quit talking about the actual arrest. It's irrelevant to the main issue.
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Conflict posted...

It's been said multiple times they weren't loitering tho and that doesn't coincide with Starbucks policy, so...

Don't know why people keep acting like they did something wrong. Multiple eye witnesses said the contrary. Fucking Starbucks came out and said they did nothing wrong. Yet they are still defending it
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Conflict posted...

The Admiral posted...

As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.

It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place

Exactly! It's like you are trying to separate the issue.

Let's say someone is getting shot at and they are running for their life. They try to run across the street and get struck by a car.

Admiral would say, "He shouldn't have ran across the street. Why he ran across the street? That's another argument."

That's fucking silly
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What's crazy is that people in this topic says there is nothing wrong... except people do this all the time at Starbucks. People go in and don't order anything. Why are these two targeted? If there wasn't an issue before with other people then why is there an issue with them? It's clear they didn't do anything wrong based on the video and several eye witnesses
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145 posted...

KainWind posted...

145 posted...

chances are, they were probably asked to leave. Then they gave staff attitude

What makes you say that? The other people in the room were standing up for them and they didn't even try to resist when they were being handcuffed.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html

The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says.
Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.

my manager Ross made that statement and as a guy who witnessed their refusal, i will back him up if in case they take this to trial.

LMAO! Is this kid joking?
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

I'm gonna love this

Edit: I was wrong

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Poiuyt posted...

Funkydog posted...

Mine's on charge. So I live forever.

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I'm black and I don't find that offensive at all. I said it all the time when I was younger since the term was in my cartoons.
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Lol no. If there is no real reason then why would I? I wouldn't let my own family check them for practice. I would be very uncomfortable for an actual doctor, who thinks I could have cancer down there, actually check them. This is a silly ass question.
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Antifar posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

To top it off... the source is the National Enquirer?

Well, not exactly. The source is a doorman who heard it secondhand; the National Enquirer paid him for the info and then didn't publish it, which many who work there suspect was a political decision.

Well that gives it slightly more credibility. Still. It's something that happened at least 28 years ago. No one should even care.
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So... A child from the 1980s.. which shouldn't matter to anyone.. To top it off... the source is the National Enquirer?

Look.. I hate Trump and all but this story is fucking stupid and pointless. To top it off.. there is a solid chance it's false if that is the sorce.
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Garioshi posted...

My ISP put my router as far away from my computer and game consoles as possible, so the signal would sometimes just die. Bought 3 Google Wifi units, installed them, and never had a problem again.

You had my exact same problem. So it might be worth it!

Questionmarktarius posted...

Slip-N-Slide posted...

If you're handy enough you could consider getting a switch and hard wiring some Ethernet ports.

I wish I was that handy.
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Here is the issue. I've moved back into my parents house which is pretty large. My brother and I will be buying this house from them in about 8 months when they move. Our modem is set up in the worst part of the house... we have a bonus room upstairs at the corner of the house... it's up there..

So naturally... we have Internet problems. My brother and I game up there and hardware our consoles so that's not an issue. It's getting connection everywhere else. Our walls aren't wifi friendly and our range really suffers because of it. We have an extender but combining it and the router upstairs... it can only cover half the house max.

Google wifi has 2 extenders but its small. Does it have the range needed? Will I have the space to hook up my modem and hardware 2 consoles? 1 might be enough
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You would think it would be no chance since you are signing your own death sentence if you do... yet.... There is constant talks about this. It sounds like he is going to do it. Would he really be that dumb?
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How do you proceed? Let's say you got pulled over for speeding. I don't own a gun but this is something I've always been curious about. People typically have their gun on their right hip. That means that it's completely out of sight of the officer. That also means if you reach for your wallet... it can look like you're reaching for you're gun. Hell if you are taking off your seatbelt it can look like that...

How do you handle that kind of situation?
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COVxy posted...

The point you attacked was the point you agreed with.

I'm confused now... Just forget it I guess.
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COVxy posted...

It's more like we're having an argument and you find out that you agree with what I said, but you still find yourself feeling emotional angry at the things I've said, so you jump to a new line on another topic just to continue the argument.

I'm literally attacking a specific point you made and I said I disagree out the gate. Instead of attacking that point you attack the terminology. You have yet to attack the actual point. But yea.. let's somehow twist it to where I agree with you instead of addressing the actual issue I'm pointing out.
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COVxy posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

You do know what the word "heinous" means right? It doesn't matter if it was a different conversation. I can quote the entire conversation and I would disagree with your statement. Just because you were talking to someone else about pedophiles doesn't mean your statement doesn't cover all the bases. You talking to that person doesn't magically make it only about pedophiles.

You're combining two points, where one of them was prefaced by "this is beside the point".

It seems we will never be on the same page about this because you seem to try to excuse it by saying you're combining points or say that's besides the point. None of that matters.

Let me give a dumbed down example. If you think this example is bad/false then correct me and I'll see if it matches up with what you're saying.

Let's say I'm walking by and I hear you and a friend talking. He ask you if you are going to buy an.. IDK.. a Porsche. You tell him you hate Porsche cars but that's beside the point because I don't have the money anyway.

Just because you weren't talking to me and you don't have the money doesn't mean you didn't say/mean you don't like Porsche cars.

That's what I'm saying.
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COVxy posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

COVxy posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

You pretty much said it's bad demonize people that have committed terrible crimes.

No, I said in response to another question that compassion is probably a better approach to actually finding solutions and preventing these things in the future.

But that is beside the actual conversation, where another user stated that pedophiles deserve to be demonized.

I mean, in no way is comparable, but I think compassion for those who have committed heinous crimes is probably more helpful than anything else as well.

You came at me about misusing the word "pedophile." You should reword this statement because you are covering all evil crimes with this statement. It doesn't matter if you were responding to someone talking about pedophiles or not.

Are you unable to discriminate different conversations?

You do know what the word "heinous" means right? It doesn't matter if it was a different conversation. I can quote the entire conversation and I would disagree with your statement. Just because you were talking to someone else about pedophiles doesn't mean your statement doesn't cover all the bases. You talking to that person doesn't magically make it only about pedophiles.
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COVxy posted...

DepreceV2 posted...

You pretty much said it's bad demonize people that have committed terrible crimes.

No, I said in response to another question that compassion is probably a better approach to actually finding solutions and preventing these things in the future.

But that is beside the actual conversation, where another user stated that pedophiles deserve to be demonized.

I mean, in no way is comparable, but I think compassion for those who have committed heinous crimes is probably more helpful than anything else as well.

You came at me about misusing the word "pedophile." You should reword this statement because you are covering all evil crimes with this statement. It doesn't matter if you were responding to someone talking about pedophiles or not.
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COVxy posted...

COVxy posted...

And if you've been taking notes, I've never said anything about defending child rapists from stigmatization.

You pretty much said it's bad demonize people that have committed terrible crimes. So you are just going to hang on the fence? Nkt defend them but not demonize them either? I'm sorry but I can't do it. If I don't clearly state how awful an individual is for doing those things then its practically the same as defending them IMO.
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