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This is truly something.
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The Wave Master posted...

The N64, Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U lack the games library to be considered successful in the eyes of hard core gamers in terms of a large, varied, quality, games library. Each console had some gems, but not enough to warrant it being your "Main" daily console.

No, the Gamecube was more than alright. Maybe it wasn't as strong as the ps2, but it did quite well.

In addition, I'm not sure why people are sneering the N64 library, considering it produced some of the best games ever made, nostalgia glasses or not (and a the time, Mario 64, Golden-Eye, etc. WERE considered the pinnacle of gaming). It's the age old quantity vs quality bit. But even from a quantity perspective, I don;t I've ever had a Nintendo console and had less than 15 games for it. I have no idea how that compares to the average attachment rate, especially over the 5-6 years lifetime of a console, but I feel that's a pretty solid number overall. The WiiU probably had/has the weakest library for a Nintendo console to date, and I STILL have like 5-6 games for it I haven't even gotten around to touching yet.



Then again, this is all irrelevant. You know why? Because a remake of Shaq Fu is coming to the Switch. Nothing else matters.

https://www.trueachievements.com/n28312/shaq-fu-a-legend-reborn-releases-new-screenshots-and-a-gameplay-trailer

Checkmate.
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I like the MH games, but for every single one I eventually hit a wall where the grind is too much and I just stop caring. I think the biggest part is basically re-facing monster you already have faced, this time just + versions. Or grinding out to get a perfect set, or a really good mesh of armor, only for it to become immediately outdated a few hours later. I like the idea of having a large amount of items to mix and match for different monster bosses, but the amount of work that goes into it is simply nuts.

That said, when I've gotten 3 friends together with me, we've had an absolutely blast doing runs together.
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Angry Beavers eliminated too soon.

This is honestly a hard one. I think IZ was flat out more funny and mature for it's time, but it has the problem of being cut too short. PPG was pretty great throughout.

I'm cool with either.
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Yeah I'll be working through most of the E3, so likely will be playing catch up on stuff afterwards. Besides new Switch announcements, there's nothing I'm really stoked to see.
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Krow_Incarnate posted...

The 3DS games are bad.

Play FE7 and the Radiant series.

Awakening and Fates are literally the best in the series. FE7 is a classic, but come on.
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Very!
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The Wave Master posted...

My surgery is s heduled for Tuesday in two weeks. I can't say I'm not scared, but I don't have a choice.

Not having a right leg will be weird, and the rehab will be hard, but I won't be in pain anymore, and I guess that is a positive.

Wait wait wait, what??

I feel like this escalated and I didn't notice.
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Entity13 posted...

Raganork10 posted...

Er, I hated Metroid Prime. Platforming and a 1st person perspective don't exactly go together like peanut butter and chocolate, at least not for me.

I agree with the platforming aspect, but I loved basically everything else about Prime 1 and 2. 3 added motion controls to the mix, so fuck that noise.

Hell nah, the motion controls made the Primes even better, and the ability to lasso-whip and pull enemies was super neat. I re-bought the trilogy on the Wii just to have motion controls with all the games.
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I'm pretty excited about the Castlevania anime
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Zeus posted...

However, that said, as a content creator, I would rather have my content consumed without compensation than not have it consumed at all.

You seem to have this bizarre notion that *you* can speak for all content creators. I don't know about you, but I, Cyborgsage, *am* a content creator, and I would be pissed if I put something out there for monetary gain, and people took it without paying. Some artists are cool with it, or put out work for free. That's cool and all, but note it's up to THEM to decide that, NOT *you*, random internet dweller. So stop trying to justify it. Taking something that is not for free is stealing. Period. Everything else is immaterial to this fact. Zeus posted...

if I wrote a book and somebody read it a library, bought it used, borrowed it from a friend, etc, I wouldn't be getting a cut of that either.

But the library bought the book initially, so again, shitty examples and justifications galore.

However, it's something that most of the board uses while refusing to acknowledge that it's morally wrong to do so.

Yes, and that's the point: No one is arguing that is isn't wrong to use them. So now you've gone full circle and are just agreeing with the original premise of everyone you've argued with.


So just stop. I'm putting a decree, no more discussion of this in this topic. Take it outside if anyone wishes to continue.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Well then you open the rabbit hole as to where the harm comes from in regards to theft entirely

There is no rabbit hole, though. You're depriving them of money, and if the creator (bicycle maker, art creator, etc.) has no monetary incentive to make their products to begin with, then they won't.

And it's less defending capitalism than defending common sense. A world of rampant theft is a world where there's no incentive to create anything to steal to begin with, unless you get into some type of socialism paradise shit (THAT is a rabbit hole to go down).

I can already see I kicked a hornet's nest and made this a bigger topic than I wanted to, so I won't really revisit this discussion. Like I said, I don't care what piracy you engage in, and you can use whatever reasoning you wish to justify it. I just wanted to point out that these justifications make one sound like an edgelord if you're really going to start questioning what "theft" is.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

exactly. if i steal your bicycle, i have deprived you of the use of property you own. who have i deprived of the use of a file that i have copied?

Well, money, for one, and to play devil's advocate. And besides, for this analogy to work, you wouldn't be stealing my bicycle, you'd be stealing the bicycle from the manufacturer/retailer. In which case, what you stole is the same in the end as something digital money/profit. The actual physical parts of the bicycle don't matter, since it's only purpose is to make money for the creator.

Not that I give a shit if you pirate games, but people really need to stop using bad analogies to justify it.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

I like the idea that Dishonored 2 changes this a bit by making certain people more "good" or "bad" than others (and punishing you less for killing the bad people while punishing you more for killing the relatively innocent), and I've heard that the endings are a bit less hamfisted, but I still haven't gotten around to it to know for sure. But I LIKE the idea that you can hack-and-slash your way through an army that is blatantly trying to kill you after betraying you/the Empress and not get a moralizing slap-on-the-wrist because you killed too many people, boo-hoo.

Huh. That concept does sound cool/more realistic. Still, I'm of the opinion that games need to abandon this morality-ending bullshit altogether, because not a single game has done it correctly. ME and the Paragon/Vanguard stuff came the closest, but ME3 made it all for not anyways.

There are just too many times where it's perfectly OK to act like a dick or do something "amoral" if the moment calls for it, and games that specifically punish you for not essentially fighting in self-defense deserve a special place in hell. Any game that has a moral ending system, I go into not giving a fuck about it, and just play as if it didn't exist.


Saw GotG 2. From a guy who didn't understand why everyone was creaming their pants over the first one, this one did little better to make me care. Not terrible film making or anything, just thought it was meh overall. Good performances out of most, liked Kurt Russel and the music, but overall still not on board with this franchise. Took my parents (because I wanted to show them this new theater in town that serves food and beer while you watch the film), and they like the MCU enough, and neither cared for it, either.
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He was cool on 261, but he hasn't been to that board in years.
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Sword and shield 95% of the time. It takes an insane amount of skill and training to make dual swords effective.
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WhiskeyDisk posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

WhiskeyDisk posted...

100 million easily.

How is this even a question?

IIRC there's pokemon that are literally gods so...

Gods in regards to in-game lore. In cities that don't exist in this world.

$100M on the other hand is a very real number in a very real currency in this world.

Hell, I'd take 100 million yen over a Pokémon.

I mean, it's pretty obvious their powers would transfer over to the real world, and work.

Still, the money, since having a real Pokemon would only lead to money anyways, might as well cut out the middleman.
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Zeus posted...

Because Baldwin is worse.

Oh, you! *pinches cheek*
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adjl posted...

Generally 3D, but the 2D ones are also very solid games, and I can understand why people would prefer them.

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No, that'd be lame af
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I didn't want one, but it is utterly baffling why they would discontinue something making them money.
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It's pretty boring and toothless, honestly. I'd expect something more furious in the age of Trump.

That, and I'm meh on most of the Gorillaz shit. >_<
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I always forget to do these. But since everyone is...


"What annoys you the most about modern gaming?"

It seems hard for truly new and fresh IPs to come out. Making games is expensive, and gamers fickle. So companies either spend big bucks on big, but safe, AAA games of established properties, or there is an endless mill of cheap indie games, although the vast bulk of them are garbage or clones. Game properties somewhere in the middle rarely last. I miss the SNES-N64 days, where experimentation was rampant, because there wasn't a concern for a huge loss. Also hate how many studios make nothing but gritty, "realistic" big AAA games these days. Yeah, I do like stuff like The Witcher, Dark Souls, and Uncharted, but I miss games that felt like, you know, classic video games, where the concept is wacky but sheer fun is the entire point. It's almost a cruel irony that Capcom put a representation of this mentality, Viewtiful Joe, in their MvC games, while also not allowing a VJ3 to be made.

MS and Sony obsession over power, rather than innovation, I think also promotes this bland push for safe big games.


"What do you like the most about modern gaming?"

The sheer variety is overwhelming, which is nice. Also, I'll admit that I was a huge opponent of DLC, for the fears of game developers making half-finished games. And while on-disc DLC was tried, and some developers DO use Internet connections as an excuse to fix broken games later (hi there, Bethesda!), I think DLC has proven to be more rewarding over all.

Steam is also a god-send for PC gaming.

"Finally, what do you miss and not miss about classic gaming?"

As said before, the sheer will to try any concept, and making games that were there just for "fun", as opposed to tell some serious story. I miss how some genres have died off, like Platformers and RTS for the PC, in favor of shooters.





So, The Last Jedi is out, and as I speculated months ago, seems like Luke is the one who wants the Jedi to end (likely for the "2 sides of the same coin" reasoning). This begs the question of why Rey is being trained as a Jedi then, but oh well.
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The Wave Master posted...

I have a lot of things to bring up, but I will start with the fact that the Xbone Scropio is probably going to retail for 699.99.

I had to look up what that even was. So...is it a new Xbox console, or just a souped-up XBone? Either way, lol @699.99 dollars (really, with tax in most states, you might was well another ~$70.00 there) just for really good graphics, when they will have a new consoles in 4-6 years anyways. This might have the effect with the less expensive Wii, and push people to the Switch.
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EVE has always fascinated me. Like, despite knowing very little about the game, I love reading about these huge space battles and rival raids and factions and shit. It's like real-life story drama.

That said, I'm equally glad I've never had the urge to play it, because it's one of those things that will consume your life.

I think it was less the practicality, and more just the fact that some things that look good or at least acceptable in a comic would look utterly stupid on screen.

Basically, this.
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helly trolls
people fall for it

More at 11.
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Well played, I'm becoming a fan of their marketing tam for doing these.

https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/850000148465766400
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Bugmeat posted...

Consentual? 12.

wut

Anyways, 15 or 16, can't quite recall.
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^Kinda relevant: I worked with the guy largely behind Voyager, The Next Generation, and Enterprise:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brannon_Braga
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The Wave Master posted...

Suikoden and Suikoden II are some of the best games you can play, retro or otherwise.

They available on some eshop these days?
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Basically, first you realize that something has a lot of shitheel fans. The next step is wondering exactly what about the work in question causes those sorts of people to be fans in the first place. At that point, once your critical eye in engaged, you start to see the flaws more easier while glossing over the positives. You may notice negatives you never realized before, and your opinion of the thing is lowered. Conversely, if you experience the terrible fans BEFORE the thing in question, you may find yourself completely unable to appreciate it at all because of that same perception, whereas, if you'd been exposed to it in a vacuum, you might have been more open to enjoying it.

AH, but you forget this system is binary, and at the other end of the spectrum you have the "superfans": Those that are going to nitpick over trivial things with a fine-toothed comb, and tend to blow perceived flaws out of proportion. When you use a critical eye to engage them on THAT, you tend to find that they are fill of shit, and have no merit to their claims at all. There's numerous ways of being a terrible fan, in essence.

Which brings me back to my point: Don't engage with these fans. There's no reason to, and no one is forcing you. It's analogous to how you and I don't care about "professional" reviewers to being with; we don't let what THEY have to say affect what WE like. But some people (like my dad) do heavily lean on reviews, to the point where it can change or distort their desire to see/read/play something, let alone how they perceive the media. That's their choice, though, they don't have to let outside forces manipulate their opinions. This is the same thing with these fans.

It's also why I almost never, ever visit game boards on Gamefaqs, because it's nothing but a cesspool of the superfans clans battling it out and shitposting each other, leaving anyone not belonging to the various factions caught in the crossfire.
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shadowsword87 posted...

What do you think reviews are then? Objective perspectives on the game only?

Yes, or they are supposed to be. We all know they really aren't in some ways, but you have to ground your opinions in something, otherwise you could come up with all kinds of wacky ways to knock a game. "Oh, Link can't equip a gun or rob a bank in BotW, 7/10 game."

Like PO said, you may not like a certain genre/game, no matter how other people view, which is fine. But if your job is to review games for the general public, saying "Mario 2/10: Cause it's a platformer, and I don't like those" helps literally no one. Now, if you dislike how a particular mechanic is implemented in a game, or the mechanic flat out doesn't work/hinders the game, that's different altogether.
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The Wave Master posted...

I guess the problem a lot of us have with the gushing and glowing reviews of Breath of the Wild is that the final "Perfect" or "Near Perfect" review scores is that they seem to ignore a lot of the flaws with the game.

That's all games considered a 10/10, though. There's always going to be a list of things that could have been done ever-so-slightly better, and I have a list I could rattle off for BotW for sure. But these tiny issues usually don' add up or amount to much, so no need to dock points for it. No game could ever get a "perfect" score otherwise.

And some things people are calling flaws, really aren't. Someone may not like the durability weapon system, for example, but that's not a objective flaw, because that was implemented on purpose. If it was implemented poorly, then that's another thing all together.

For comparison go back and look at the Halo 5 reviews. Reviewers complained endlessly about the resolution of the game.

"What do you mean Halo 5 isn't running at 60fps and 1080p? It's Halo!!!"

If I had to guess, I would say Halo 5 was likely promised to run at 60fps and 1080p before launch, so if it broke that promise, then people are going to rake them over the coals for it. The significance of resolution also matters more since a large reason why anyone even buys Halo games is the multiplayer, something BotW doesn't have.

To be fair, when a large vocal core to a fanbase are annoying as fuck or otherwise repulsive human beings, it's a very natural and justified response to basically ask yourself "Man, if THESE shitbags all love this thing, then what does that say about its quality?"

But who cares, though? These people have no real-world power or presence. It's not like they are out protesting in the streets over weapon durability. They are confined to message boards such as this one, where they can be safely ignored if you wish to ignore them. Not to mention, there's no such thing as a fanbase that DOESN'T have a "large vocal core"; there are only variations of such (like how XBox Live gets a bad rep.). Unless these people are directly hindering your ability to enjoy a game, you have no reason to engage them or let them influence. You're just doing it to yourself at that point.

In some ways, it's similar to how people find out that Orson Scott Card was pretty anti-gay, and find it prevents them from enjoying his writing, or when Mel Gibson had his little tirade about women and Jews and people became less inclined to want to see anything he makes.

Not close in enough ways to be a good comparison. This is comparing the stances of 1 person, the creator of the content, vs. thousands or millions of fans, who don't create the content. While I believe in separating the art from the artist (and thus the transgressions of OSC and Gibson don't distract me from their art), I can get not wanting to support or not being able to enjoy a game/book/film because you consider the person behind it to be vile. Voting with your wallet, and all. But it's inane to have that same reaction to thousands of fans, whom you have no control over and will rarely, if ever affect the art in question itself.
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Foppe posted...

Entity13 posted...

So that was a nice visit from my boyfriend, from which things have become more . . . official between us.

Congrats.

Also, this.
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Entity13 posted...

Well, late in the send that you need to have done enough shrines to get your heart containers up to a minimum of 13, which is honestly pretty easy (albeit time consuming).

I wouldn't exactly call it easy, either. Not counting the 3 hearts you get to start, you'd need to complete 40 shrines (1/3 of the total amount in the game), and that's also assuming you spend none on stamina (also assumes you don't beat any Divine Beats in between, though).

Then there are tribe specific weapons you can get from beating the few main story dungeons, which can still break but then be remade for a material cost. The Zora one isn't even strong, but it's useful for opening one whole shrine.

22 on a spear ain't shabby, considering the high end for spears is about 30. Then again, the 1st region I did was the Zoras, so having the Lightscale Trident early on was pretty beastly. I do think the unique area items should have had better overall durability, though. That said, the Gerudo items were the best.
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Entity13 posted...

Yes, I like the game, but good gods, people! It's not worth sending death threats to those who dissent, or the ridiculing of those who have legitimate arguments to the contrary of your own views.

Well yeah, death threats and the like are never acceptable. But welcome to the new-age fandom of, well, everything. If you're in the public eye in any form in this day and age, you can expect to get death threats for literally doing anything-or even nothing. Which is why I kinda roll my eyes when people announce they have gotten death threats over something. Yeah? Welcome to being a public figure in 20XX.

I sincerely hope it loses every GotY countdown this year, not out of any sort of hatred for the game, but for a stark comparison of how people's views are just as ever-changing as they are shit whenever they neglect to use their brains.

I wouldn't hold your breath over that, seeing as BotW is the highest rated game EVER (in terms of most perfects), and one of the highest ever in terms of average score. It'd take a wild game to dethrone it, and there doesn't look to be any on the horizon this year.

The odds of me being unable to do just that actually increase, and I find myself becoming critical of a game, book, movie, or album's flaws that much quicker. I still would have noticed things wrong with BotW in time, but my enjoyment of it would have lasted longer if people didn't do the hive-minded people thing that people often do.

Which is kinda lame of you, honestly. Hating on the thing that is popular for the sake of it being popular, and to be in dissent just to spite others is a silly cliche that you are better than. It makes you no better than the people you criticize for being "hiveminds" in addition, since you're both having a reaction to the game that isn't derived from the actual merits of the game itself, you know?



Random input: I finally found out how to look up playtime on the Switch. I put in 110+ hours into BotW before I laid it to rest. Which is astonishing to me, since while I knew I had been playing it nearly day and night since it came out, it didn't ever feel like that much time had past. Even though I really loved Xenoblade Chronicles, towards the end, some of the things felt like a slog/timesink, where I became aware of the time that was needed to finish up the things I wanted to. I put about 120 hours into that game. But at no point in BotW for me did I feel the time actually passed. Apparently, I was enthralled from beginning to end.
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Entity13 posted...

and the rate of weapon breakage which would work if the "new weapons" weren't often weaker (sometimes gimmicky) weapons (eg., a skeleton's arm or low level spear).

Not true. Weapon strength scales with area and your level progression of the game. You'll eventually see darker and then silver level enemies, who hold higher quality stuff. If you go back to the Great Plateau and kill a 13HP bokoblin, then yeah, it's going to drop crap. But the weapon strength remains consistent to where you are in the game.

And I never picked up a skeleton arm after like, the first hour of the game. You get enough weapon options thrown at you to not really need them.

It's a game that touts size and the illusion of freedom, albeit not a very good illusion.

How do you mean by that? There IS total freedom, which is why critics and the like are fawning over the game, because it'll likely become a template on how to do open world games properly for years to come. There is no illusion; you can go whichever way you like, right away, hell, straight to the final boss if you like. That IS freedom, which is not only striking for the open world genre itself, but for the Zelda series, considering it's always been linear before hand.

There's enjoyment to be had, but there are massive chores to find every single collectible, grind materials to upgrade gear (even after you're effectively done USING said gear), grind money for things you need, and all if you want to try to 100% the game.

This statement is basically worthless. By the nature of having to "100%" a game, it will ALWAYS be a grind. And the psychopaths that like to 100% games to begin with, they are already well aware of the time and grind that goes into it. The only real thing that would be absolutely maddening to 100% would be finding every.single.Korok, because I think there are 900 of them in the game. But everything you described is standard RPG stuff, and honestly, money in materials are WAY easier to come by than virtually any other game.

...by the inability to make a new file of the game unless you either delete the old one or make a new profile on your system.

This is indeed a truly perplexing thing, not sure why the hell only one save file is available. To me, it has weaker replay anyways, because the one drawback of large, open world games is so much of the fun is in the mystery and exploration, and once you've already done it, it'll take a long time before you forget a lot of the locations and enchantment. Which is fine for me anyways, because I never understood the mentality of instantly jumping back into a long single player game anyways.

Literally the last nail in the coffin of the so-called freedom in this game was when someone--on Youtube I think it was, not a Nintendo employee--responded to the critique about weapons breaking by saying that anyone who doesn't like it is playing the game wrong, but any of us should be able to argue how wrong that is for a game that tries to advertise its alleged freedom.

They have a point, though. Like how I find your comment on grinding for rupees to be perplexing, since it to me means you must have ignored the 4 billion ore deposit locations in the game, which are worth obscene amounts of money. And it's not like it's a big thing to mine them; throwing a bomb at one and taking literally 2 seconds to pick up the spoils is all it takes, you don't need to even alter your current path. I had a fucking stock pile of gems and ore before I even got to the point where I knew what they were used for. So yeah, it's going to come off as a grind if you are short on rupees late game and you ignored the numerous chances the game gave you to make money, and more specifically, make money easily.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Basically, the game could almost be more accurately be described as "Breadth of the Wild". Nearly all of the aspects people are praising revolve around exploration and the sheer size of the map as core gameplay. Even weapon breaking ties into that, because it forces you to experiment with new items and new methods of play rather than simply finding the most powerful sword you can and just spam the most effective attack strategies. The game wants you to explore and discover everything on your own, and wants to force you out of your comfort zone in order to make sure you're actually doing that. In some ways, it's more true to the original Legend of Zelda on the NES than anything that's come after.

The bulk of the durability complaints comes from breaking weapons too easily rather than the durability mechanic. Which is a fair enough complaint, although people seem generally unaware that lower-tier weapons break much more easily against tougher monster. That said, plenty of people (like Yatzee) have (rightfully) complained of games in the past giving you many weapons/skills/magic options, only to also include a handful that are so good that they outshine and outclass the others, breaking the entire point of having a bunch of weapons to choose from.

Thus, it was very wise for BotW to make every weapon, no matter how good, breakable. The lone exception is the Master Sword, which you can't get until late in the, and which actually can "break" from overuse, in a way-it will become dull and unusable from too much use, but it slowly heals itself back to full power over time of non-use.
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I take back what I said about Andromeda. How since most of the scores are in the 70's range, it must truly be a game worthy of that score. But after seeing some videos of those god-awful facial animations and the pile of glitches...the gameplay and storytelling would have to be fucking next level to excuse that shit. And we know the story telling can't be good, since every cut scene/dialogue interaction has a character looking off screen into the abyss or whatever.
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Yeah but at least this is done with Marvel running the show. There's no way it's not better than the other iterations.

The OG 1 and 2 were perfectly fine, and Toby grew on me as PP/Spidey. Admittedly, I haven't seen the Amazing Spider-Man reboot ones.
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