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TopicSubway Employee Calls 911 on Black Family Because She Thought They Would Rob Her
CableZL
07/06/18 9:47:30 PM
#8
DirkDiggles posted...
I'll take an Italian BMT and ALL THE MONEY IN YOUR TILL!!!


AND DON'T SKIMP ON THE COOKIES
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:43:42 PM
#21
DarkTransient posted...
Or, maybe if the liberals care so much about opposing racism, they shouldn't trivialize it to an extent that the accusation becomes meaningless and racists have little reason to be afraid to speak their mind?


Again, racist people speaking their minds isn't a new thing. They've done so for centuries. The new thing is the fact that they're doing it even while being recorded for the world to see and aren't the slightest bit concerned about hiding their faces these days.
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:39:16 PM
#17
DarkTransient posted...
And I answered exactly why that's the case. You can't ask "why are racists so bold these days" then cry "that's not relevant, this is about one specific case" when someone explains the general trends that lead to the situation you're asking about. The fact that the answer is highly unfavorable to your political views doesn't change that.


I never asked why racist people are so bold these days. I said racist people are bold these days and asked if they're always so angry. Reading comprehension would help you quite a bit.
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:35:11 PM
#15
DarkTransient posted...
Liberals crying "racism" at everything has pretty much killed any impact or meaning that word has.


1) This topic has nothing to do with "crying racism at everything." Again, it is observing a woman's racist behavior and calling it what it is.
2) This topic isn't "people making a scene over nothing again." The woman is the one making a scene by going on a racist rant and assaulting someone.

DarkTransient posted...
Then, the same liberal sources claim "look, no one cares about racism anymore".


3) No one is claiming that "no one cares about raicsm any more" in this topic. The woman was arrested and charged.

DarkTransient posted...
Finally, people like this woman hear this, and think "oh look, it's fine to be racist now".


People have thought it was "fine to be racist" in this country for centuries. You can try to pretend it's some new phenomenon, but the only "new" thing here is that smartphones with cameras are incredibly ubiquitous. The ability to upload videos for the world to see with a couple taps has given people an easy way to show what is happening around them.

Stuff like this has been happening for ages. We're just seeing it more because of smartphones and people wanting to record everything with them now.

DarkTransient posted...
Which you know damn well is what I was getting at,


I know exactly what you're getting at. I just wanted you to spell it out so I can break down why you're incorrect. I say "racist people are getting bold these days" because racist people used to hide their faces behind hoods and sheets and shit. If they didn't hide their faces, it was because they knew they could get away with it. Now they just do it out in the open even with people recording them.
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:22:57 PM
#8
DarkTransient posted...
No, that isn't my argument at all. Read it again, and put some thought into it this time.


Your "step 1" has nothing to do with this topic, so I don't see why you even posted it. A woman went on a racist rant on a bus and got arrested. This isn't "accusing anything and everything of being racist." This is observing a woman going on a racist rant and calling it what it is.
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:17:23 PM
#4
DarkTransient posted...
CableZL posted...
Racist people are getting pretty bold these days. I wonder are they always this angry? Or do they just get set off by insignificant things like minorities being in their presence?


Step 1 - Accuse anything and everything of being "racist".
Step 2 - Wait for people to stop taking accusations of "racism" seriously.
Step 3 - Twist this into a claim that "no one cares about racism anymore".

...what exactly do you think is going to happen in step 4? People magically stop being racist?


Is your argument here that this woman isn't racist?
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:14:15 PM
#2
She was arrested on charges of disorderly conduct. After further investigation, Messiano has now been charged with criminal obstruction of breathing and aggravated harassment, according to the Rockland County Sheriff.

From another article. "Criminal obstruction of breathing." A nice specific charge for choking someone.
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TopicWoman arrested after going on a racist rant on a bus
CableZL
07/06/18 9:11:12 PM
#1
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article214436019.html

"I just kept recording her. She's just going at the mouth, with the racial slurs. The N words," the passenger who recorded her rant, 33-year-old Vladimir Philidore, told News 12.

"Some people were scared, especially the elderly people, he told PIX 11. "She tried to knock the phone out my hand and she started choking me."

Police located the bus after police were called, pulled her off the vehicle and arrested, ABC 7 reported. She is scheduled to appear in court July 19, according to the station.


All known videos of the incident stitched together:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=612459419120759&id=285068005193237

Racist people are getting pretty bold these days. I wonder are they always this angry? Or do they just get set off by insignificant things like minorities being in their presence?

Sheesh.
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TopicCreepy 'Machete Man' Spotted
CableZL
07/06/18 7:54:54 PM
#11
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
I don't have a green jumpsuit, white tennis shoes, any masks or chains and none of my hats are exclusively black.

Just in case anyone thought this was me.

Edit: also, West Virginia? Yeah, I wouldn't have a reason to go there.


That sounds exactly like what a Machete Man would say
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TopicNew wasp species with MASSIVE stinger discovered in the Amazon. *Picture*
CableZL
07/06/18 7:40:42 PM
#15
TopicWE HAVE A POLICE CHASE (livestream) (Los Angeles) (Possible DUI)
CableZL
07/06/18 7:32:27 PM
#35
109 degrees in Los Angeles right now!? Holy shit
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TopicWE HAVE A POLICE CHASE (livestream) (Los Angeles) (Possible DUI)
CableZL
07/06/18 7:30:29 PM
#30
TopicWE HAVE A POLICE CHASE (livestream) (Los Angeles) (Possible DUI)
CableZL
07/06/18 7:29:50 PM
#27
He has time to get out of the vehicle and put a shirt on
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TopicWE HAVE A POLICE CHASE (livestream) (Los Angeles) (Possible DUI)
CableZL
07/06/18 7:27:20 PM
#22
Why don't the cops just stop the car at this point?
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TopicWE HAVE A POLICE CHASE (livestream) (Los Angeles) (Possible DUI)
CableZL
07/06/18 7:13:20 PM
#11
D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
lol he going slow as fuck


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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:57:08 PM
#107
ultimate reaver posted...
Dude just did an interview on TV and didn't even attempt to say there was more to be seen than in the video, he basically just said "sorry, i'm not a racist there is more to my life than just this," which is, i mean, duh

i think he was basically just power tripping for his dumb job, but i have a hard time feeling sorry for him when he called the police over something like this


Probably would have gone a long way for him if he just apologized when she asked him to instead of completely ignoring her and waiting for a TV interview. He took it way too far.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:50:46 PM
#105
I think the only position he should have lost was his position with the HOA. He had admittedly been abusing whatever authority he thought he had.
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TopicChinese tariffs specifically target red state industries.
CableZL
07/06/18 6:48:37 PM
#30
TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:44:31 PM
#103
emblem boy posted...
Did he lose his actual job?

Yes, unfortunately. I think that's going too far.

I also think asking for her ID and calling the cops in this situation is going too far.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:44:14 PM
#101
I guess when you live in a neighborhood, you have to make 100% sure that all other residents know your name, address, driver's license number, social security number, have a copy of your long form birth certificate, etc. Just so you won't be harassed for using the pool or trying to come home from work.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:42:39 PM
#100
Bishop9800 posted...
He brought this on himself. But I'll play your game... Please show me where in the HOA rules and responsibilities that says he had the right to ask for her ID.


Or even the right to ask that she give him her key card.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:38:56 PM
#96
s0nicfan posted...
He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called.


Yeah, and he clearly assumes he has more authority than he actually does. He says he regularly asks people for ID when he has no right to actually see anyone's ID for access to the pool. Again, he couldn't point to a single posted rule or name one community statute that requires residents to show their ID to him for pool access.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:36:50 PM
#93
s0nicfan posted...
I've been explicitly avoiding posting my speculation

LMAO, no you haven't.

s0nicfan posted...
He did ask her for her key card.


When did he ask to see her key card? Certainly not in the video until the cop came up with the idea. You're speculating here.

I also doubt it's required for a resident to give anyone else their key card to verify access to the pool.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:33:10 PM
#91
And no, she didn't ruin his life. He did that to himself. She didn't force him to call the cops. The police were completely unnecessary in this situation.

He couldn't point to or state one posted rule or community statue that requires residents to show ID to access the pool to the police.

Hell, I doubt it's required to even give your own key card to him to verify. Simply using the key card to access the pool is probably all that's needed and giving him her address was probably a nice gesture in itself.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 6:28:11 PM
#89
s0nicfan posted...
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to:


So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work?


What I think likely happened is he asked her for ID as he does periodically as part of his HOA responsibility, most often to other white people (since it sounds like this place is almost exclusively white). She gave him an address, and he said that wasn't good enough (because an address without an ID doesn't prove anything). At that point she could have just pulled our her key card and gone in, but she didn't, and I don't think he blocked the door either. I think they both got testy, she accused him of racism, and he called the cops because she was making a scene. The cops showed up, she used her key card and the cop said that was going to have to be evidence enough for him, and then she ruined his life.


So your speculation is OK, but nobody else's speculation is OK. Gotcha.
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TopicSo i finally tried No Man's Sky
CableZL
07/06/18 6:17:24 PM
#6
TopicSo i finally tried No Man's Sky
CableZL
07/06/18 6:15:58 PM
#3
I was actually fascinated with collecting resources to move from planet to planet and visiting the space stations... The thing that killed it for me was the fact that there's no ending. At least there was no ending back when I was playing it.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:54:23 PM
#87
s0nicfan posted...
Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to:


So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work?
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:49:47 PM
#85
s0nicfan posted...
So are you fine with how all this falls out, cable? Do you think justice has been done? I'm clearly not going to convince you that this guy was just doing what he does all the time as part of his HOA job, and you're clearly unconvinced that she refused to provide him anything other than an address until the cops showed up, so I'm done fighting that battle. Do you believe he deserves to lose his job and have his full name and picture plastered across multiple major news agencies as a racist over asking for an ID?


I'm not fine with how all this falls out. I've been saying this whole topic that the police should have never been called in the 1st place because she gave him her address AND had a working key card. According to the lifeguard manager, she was already in the pool area when Adam Bloom asked her for identification.

I'm not happy that he lost his job, but he's an asshole for calling the police because she wouldn't show him her ID when she had everything she needed to properly access the pool. She shouldn't have to show ID just because he isn't satisfied with knowing her address.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:47:30 PM
#84
https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/man-accused-of-racism-no-longer-employed-by-sonoco-after/article_081feb9a-4f15-53be-a4ae-dd91b4e43e26.html

Bloom and the woman who shot the video both live in the Glenridge community, which is off Robinhood Road, said Karam Gulkham, a lifeguard manager for the pool.

The pool is gated. Members have cards and must scan them to get into the pool area.

About 2 p.m. Wednesday, Bloom asked a black woman, who was in the pool area, for identification, Gulkham said.

Theres a keycard to the door to get into the pool, Gulkham said. Apparently it was not enough for him. I dont know why he felt it wasnt enough.

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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:42:10 PM
#82
s0nicfan posted...
We DON'T KNOW what happened before she started recording

s0nicfan posted...
but there's no reason to believe he didn't also ask to see her key card and she refused


LOL

Except for the fact that he repeatedly tried to justify the fact that he asks for ID on a seemingly regular basis and never even mentioned testing the key card until the cop came up with the idea just to end the situation.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:40:49 PM
#80
s0nicfan posted...
The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen.


Exactly. She stated she gave him her address, and obviously used her key card to enter the pool area. That's all that's necessary here. Again, calling the police on her is overzealous at minimum. He asked for her ID and the first time he even mentions asking her to verify that her key card works is after the police ask for it.

Even after he sees that her key card works, he still wanted to see her ID. He couldn't point to or state one community bylaw that requires photo ID to access the pool area.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:34:37 PM
#76
If simply using the key card to open the door was "perfect," then she never would have needed to show ID in the first place. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the door, he still wanted to see her ID.

She stated she gave him her address and he wasn't satisfied with that. All he had to do at that point was see that the key card worked, but he wanted to see her ID and she didn't want to show it to him.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:33:34 PM
#74
s0nicfan posted...
EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect"


LOL.

2:30: She agrees to give the pool card to the police so he can test it
2:53: Cop uses the key card and sees that it works
3:13: "A form of ID would be helpful to validate."
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:29:41 PM
#72
s0nicfan posted...
Officer: "Well you have a key card to get into the pool?"
Woman: "Yes I do"
Adam: "Okay, they just show access to the pool"
Officer: "Do you have your key card"?
Woman: "I do have my key card"
Officer: "Would you mind if I saw your key card?"
Woman: "I don't mind showing it to YOU (emphasis on the you is hers, not mine), but its not a requirement to use the pool like he was requesting"

Like, this isn't my interpretation of what happened. These are the literal words from the video.


And again

s0nicfan posted...
The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it.


Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the pool, he still said "Showing ID would be nice," lol. She gave him her address and used the key card to enter the pool, but he wasn't satisfied with that.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:22:42 PM
#70
s0nicfan posted...
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him.


She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.


re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark.


The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. She refused to show her ID and obviously used her key card to access the pool. She stated at the beginning of the video that she even gave him her address. Then he asked to see her ID, which she rightfully refused.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:17:21 PM
#65
s0nicfan posted...
He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him.


She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:15:31 PM
#61
s0nicfan posted...
More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122

A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association.

The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.


And the only thing necessary in this situation was:

1) Ask her if she was a member of the community
- Answer: Yes
2) Ask if she has the key card
- Answer: Yes

Asking for ID and calling the police is overzealous at minimum.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:12:41 PM
#58
Monolith1676 posted...
Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right.


It isn't. The only thing required for access to the pool is the key card and she had that, which is why the police ultimately determined that he was in the wrong. Nowhere is it posted that ID is required to enter the pool.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 5:08:06 PM
#56
Monolith1676 posted...
Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job.


Asking people for ID to enter the pool wasn't his job.
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TopicJust saw Ant Man and The Wasp
CableZL
07/06/18 5:00:42 PM
#13
TopicChikorita is worthless in Gen 2
CableZL
07/06/18 4:47:17 PM
#28
cloudrivera posted...
Bulbasaur is like the only good grass starter. He's my favorite of gen 1.


Rowlett is awesome

Bulbasaur and Rowlett are the only two grass starters I've liked.
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TopicEverybody is leaving work early...
CableZL
07/06/18 4:42:31 PM
#1
I'm sitting at my desk wondering if I should go, too...

Decisions, decisions...
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TopicI wish Google Fiber didn't have to slow down their construction... Damn it.
CableZL
07/06/18 4:22:27 PM
#17
I Like Toast posted...
Even just how much we lag behind Europe and Asia is sad.


Yeah, I remember back in the early 2000s, seeing speed tests from people in South Korea in the hundreds of Mbps while I was sitting at home with like 5 Mbps at the most.
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TopicI wonder if the Telecom Cable LLC vs Comcast lawsuit is still set for this month
CableZL
07/06/18 4:20:46 PM
#1
Telecom Cable, LLC alleges that Comcast techs repeatedly cut their critical service lines while Comcast was moving into the area. Allegedly, it happened so much that Telecom Cablem LLC's customers all quit and most of them went to Comcast. Telecom Cablem LLC is now out of business because of this. I called the lawyer representing Telecom Cable, LLC about 5 months ago and he said the trial was set for July.

I want updates on this, damn it!
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TopicI wish Google Fiber didn't have to slow down their construction... Damn it.
CableZL
07/06/18 4:12:30 PM
#15
I Like Toast posted...
The tech might, but the isp sure aren't


Yeah... That's one of the reasons I was excited so quickly about Google Fiber when they made the initial announcement because they picked up on that fact. They had the chart below in their first press conference:

4zWTDjc
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TopicI wish Google Fiber didn't have to slow down their construction... Damn it.
CableZL
07/06/18 3:45:28 PM
#10
Colorahdo posted...
So serious question here, google fiber is "really fast", right? What about in 10 years? They'll be extremely outdated. Do they have to redo all of the cables or whatever?

I don't know much about it, but it seems very short sighted to me


Current optical (optical = fiber, electrical = copper) ethernet standards support 10 Gbps connectivity, but it depends on their network infrastructure as well. You can run 10 Gbps cables and terminate them on switches that only support up to 1 Gbps.

So if they currently have everyone plugged into 10 Gbps ports, then they'd essentially just be waiting on end-user devices like PC and/or video game console manufacturers to start putting 10 Gbps ethernet ports in their stuff and they'd be able to reasonably upgrade people to 10 Gbps connectivity without too much hassle. They'd have to give people 10 Gbps capable modems and/or make sure the electrical/optical conversion device that they install in the home/business (the fiber jack) is capable of 10 Gbps connectivity as well. Then they'd pretty much be good to go.

If they've got people plugged into 1 Gbps ports, then they'd need to upgrade to switches that have all 10 Gbps ports vs 1 Gbps ports.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
CableZL
07/06/18 3:32:08 PM
#51
brestugo posted...
Various news outlets are reporting #poolpatrolpaul has been fired!

Maybe he can get a job checking IDs.......


I love the nicknames being assigned to these people.

#BBQbecky
#poolpatrolpaula
#poolpatrolpaul
#darthbecky
#permitpatty
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TopicI wish Google Fiber didn't have to slow down their construction... Damn it.
CableZL
07/06/18 3:25:11 PM
#4
Nall posted...
Didnt they discontinue the Google Fiber project because it costed too much?

No, it's still an existing service. They just slowed down their construction/rollout very heavily.
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TopicI wish Google Fiber didn't have to slow down their construction... Damn it.
CableZL
07/06/18 3:20:20 PM
#1
I'm trying to get Google Fiber installed at more locations for my job and it's taking forever. We've got them at one building and the service has been much better than Spectrum's cable modems.
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