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You should have responded with "It's hard to have sex with a vag that hasn't been washed in two months. If you're going out go out on top.
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Awakened_Link posted...

In June I got injured and thought I would never be able to do anal again.

It's quite the cum in back story
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The only one I can't figure out is Order of the Phoenix...
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I just wanted to have one nice topic where we act like A FAMILY!
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tag
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Eevee-Trainer posted...

*sets the topic on fire*

This is fine

WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST SAY!
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Let's just all keep calm and civil.
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Who?
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"If Bestoffuture posted...

I sometimes feel a flush of patriotic resentment. When Im forced to use a translator to communicate with the guy fixing my car, I feel a certain frustration." - Barack Obama

The quote comes from his 2006 autobiography, "The Audacity of Hope." After getting our attention with that blunt description of his feelings, Obama goes on to argue against following those feelings as some people do, to justify denial of "rights and opportunities" to immigrants who want to become Americans.
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NeonOctopus posted...

Use it on the roaming legendary cuz they're fucking annoying.

Only this.

This, but I like having my team in balls that match their design.
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My sleep schedule is so fucked
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It's why I hate going back to Gen 2
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But then wouldn't Paultena be too big?
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When did rappers start having such stupid stage names?
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Community College saved my life tbh. There's no way I would have succeeded straight into a four year.
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Forlorn_Ass posted...

Just because an artist was a bad person doesn't mean the music isn't good.

His music was ass
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Tl;dr
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Doe posted...

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Doe posted...

Unironically Waluigi

King K Rool fans are so fucking deluded

People said the same thing about us Ridley fans for years.

Ridley was very clearly the big boy meme for a long time and Sakurai has been explicit that the demand for him was overwhelming but he was seen as too difficult to faithfully implement.

If you made a fake leak thread with Ridley or just posted 'too big' on GameFAQs or /v/ you instantly had 300 replies

King K Rool is not unheard of but his threads were Daisy tier

Pretty sure K. Rool was higher in the Smash ballot results than Waluigi
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Maybe people should start showing Trump the respect he deserves. Republicans were completely against some of Obama's policies but they still treated him with respect.

Remember when Trump demanded to see Obama's birth certificate?
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Nintendo, Platinum
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LBX on the 3DS reminded me of Custom Robo
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If anything Waluigi needs a moveset based on the spinoff. His up special could be the Mario Party Dice Block, the number determines the height of the jump. Side special he uses a Mario kart. Down special could be something based on DDR. Neutral special could be a sports related charge attack. Final smash he summons the genie from Mario Party.
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The fact we haven't gotten Mario & Luigi: Partners in Crime is a travesty
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Damn you Kevin Hart, holding back the movement
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

BatmanWTtP posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

TC has it occurred to you that 100% of the replies in this topic telling you youre being silly might mean something

When I'm telling you my point, and your argument is to twist and ignore my point, and I respond by redirecting you to my point, and your response is to again try to twist my point, then no I don't take you seriously.

You dont HAVE a point. Weve seen three trailers for a character-driven movie-game, one of which put any emphasis whatsoever on her being gay, and youre flying off the handle about it somehow proving that suddenly her only trait is being gay.

Thanks for showing you're not worth talking to
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

TC has it occurred to you that 100% of the replies in this topic telling you youre being silly might mean something

When I'm telling you my point, and your argument is to twist and ignore my point, and I respond by redirecting you to my point, and your response is to again try to twist my point, then no I don't take you seriously.
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No, it's actually progressive. It actually means gay sex between friends.
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scar the 1 posted...

What is "gaming as a whole", and how will it be impacted?

Gaming as a whole is the way games are written and marketed. Any flaws that people have with LoU2 can now be dismissed as "You're only against it because of the lesbians", it's marketed more on "Look how progressive it is" rather than the story or gameplay.
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I don't understand what happened to imgur. It used to be so great and simple. Drag and drop an image to upload. Easy to use mobile site. Now to upload a picture on mobile you have to download the app. To drag and drop on the browser you have to go to a separate page. Sad.
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yusiko posted...

This topic screams of *I'm not homophobic but I hate those icky gay people existing out in the open instead of being properly ashamed of themselves*

Yes, I'm clearly homophobic for being against the gay community being used as a marketing tool
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cjsdowg posted...

And also the Finn was the Toxic for trying to save everyone in the end

lmao, Finn trying to save everyone was one of the best parts of that movie. His death could have saved the film tbh >_>
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pinky0926 posted...

Ok so to clarify

This annoys you why? A fictional plot has a level of cultural relevance?

I actually really don't understand your beef here. A character is gay and you're the only person here who is bothered but you're reassuring us that you don't care if someone is gay. Something something sjws.

Because it's going about it the wrong way. If a character is gay then they're gay, but when you go out of your way to show how gay they are and make they're gayness a focus of something unrelated it takes away from the overall story being presented. Ellie's sexual orientation didn't matter to the plot of trailer, yet it was made the focus for no reason other than to parade her orientation and go "look how gay she is, have we mentioned she's gay?"

_Goggalor_ posted...

So the relationship, whether gay or straight, is the focus of the game. It wouldn't make sense not to show the kiss.

The kiss itself isn't the problem nor is it that she's gay. The plot of the trailer is "Ellie goes to a dance, has a moment with her girlfriend, remembers a traumatic event, and then goes back to a moment of peace." That's not the way it plays out. What we get instead is Ellie gets hit on by a guy so her girlfriend can come in and shock everyone with the reveal that she's gay. Then they dance and through dialogue bring attention to the fact that their gay." Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story of the trailer, yet it becomes the focus just to send a message.

scar the 1 posted...

I could be misreading it, but with the bluegrass music local traditional dance party, the setting seemed to be like some southern small town. This impression was reinforced by the couple's acute awareness that everyone was staring. So to me it seems like an relevant part of Ellie's background, that her relationship with the community might be a little bit of being shunned because she's openly gay. But then again, isn't that a bit difficult to say before we know more?

This could be true, the problem is that it isn't shown or established. If a character in the background had said something about Ellie because of her orientation, or Ellie had been known as a closeted or afraid to show her sexuality this would have been an actual important moment for the character, but it's not shown as that, it's just "look how gay she is"

scar the 1 posted...

If you're genuinely concerned that sexual orientation is used as a marketing tool, why not let gay women be offended by it and empower their voice? It's their identity that is ostensibly used for nefarious, capitalist purposes, let them be heard, listen to how they feel about this. Otherwise, aren't you just an SJW getting offended on behalf of someone else?

My problem is that this tactic will be used going forward and change the way games are written and perceived. The game is being used to send a message which is going to impact gaming as a whole.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

This is ridiculous. Ellie has always been gay. Its been a fact for damn near 5 years now. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

I feel like I've repeated this multiple times, the problem isn't Ellie being gay, the problem is that her being gay is now a marketing point. She's no longer a character who happens to be gay, she's the gay character.
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pinky0926 posted...

You're making a thing out of something that is not a thing. While you're sitting there treating this like a grand statement or SJW agenda the rest of us are interested in how the game is going to turn out.

"It's graphics, it's gameplay, it's story and you're trying not to let any one pillar overwhelm the other. You're trying to just keep all of this stuff in your mind like, how does it all work together? Recently, I realized that there's this other pillar of diversity. That's just as important as any one of these other pillars. I've kind of empowered people on the team that have made this their top priority."
Druckmann singled out Naughty Dog lead concept character artist Ashley Swidowski, whom he said is "constantly challenging me and pushing for diversity in our cast."

When designing new characters, Swidowski asks Druckmann things like "Can this be a person of color?" and "Can this be a woman?"

Because that's exactly what it is
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pinky0926 posted...

BatmanWTtP posted...

Veggeta_MAX posted...

"I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!"

Are you sure?

Once again, Ellie being gay is essential to the way the trailer was laid out yet her being gay had nothing to do with the plot of the trailer. If you swap out Ellie's girlfriend for a man then it becomes padded with even more unnecessary fluff.

Maybe the romance is a centre plot in the game? Do you even know? You actually don't, because we don't know what the plot is yet.

There's a difference between a romance plot and drawing attention to a character's sexual orientation.

A romance plot with characters who happen to be gay is different from a romance plot with character is that they're gay.
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pinky0926 posted...

Why do you have to take a lesbian relationship as a statement?

Because that's how it was used. Ellie has been gay, this has been known for some time. But now it's being used as a selling and marketing point. Let me put it this way. If you walked into the Sony conference with zero knowledge on the Last of Us, you don't walk away from that trailer going "Oh Last of Us is that zombie game" or "Last of Us is that survival game" you walk out going "Last of Us is that game with the gay girl."
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Veggeta_MAX posted...

"I'd complain too if there was a straight couple kissing!"

Are you sure?

Once again, Ellie being gay is essential to the way the trailer was laid out yet her being gay had nothing to do with the plot of the trailer. If you swap out Ellie's girlfriend for a man then it becomes padded with even more unnecessary fluff.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

BatmanWTtP posted...

Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse

This is where you are at least partially wrong

TLOU is a character game. Its about Joel and Ellie, who they are as people, their traumas, their development, their relationship. Hell, you even fight more humans than clickers. The zombie game is basically the setting, the backdrop. People complained about that a long time before the kiss was a thing, but thats what TLOU is. Its a Walking Dead type story about humans coping with tragedies and growing up in this world more than it is about zombies. Exploring Ellies coming of age is EXACTLY what Id expect a sequel to address.

That's fine, but Ellie being a character who happens to be gay is not the same as Ellie's defining character trait being that she's gay. The problem is that that's what the trailer does. It doesn't show a character who happens to be gay, it just goes "Ellie's gay, look at her be gay"

scar the 1 posted...

So, the scene in the trailer, is it from the game or not? Because it seems like their dancing and kissing drew attention from the people at the dance. Is that not part of the story?

In that trailer, what did it matter that Ellie was gay? The trailer plot was "Ellie is at a dance, she has a moment of peace, we're shown an intense moment, and then we return to the peaceful moment." Why was such a large focus placed on Ellie's sexual orientation. If the dance scene had opened up with Ellie and her girlfriend dancing or the "everyone is staring" part was cut this wouldn't be an issue. The problem comes with Ellie's sexual orientation being used as a selling point and the focus of trailer where it is irrelevant to the overall plot of the trailer.
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Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse, yet the selling point of the game right now isn't the game play, or the story itself, the selling point and focus of the marketing is "Ellie is gay, look how gay she is".
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FrisbeeDude posted...

How thick is the beard on TCs neck holy shit. Imagine being this triggered and devoted to finding some progressive, pro gay boogeyman in a fucking video game trailer lmfaoooo

It's not a boogeyman when the director of the game sees diversity as a pillar of gaming
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/uncharted-dev-says-character-diversity-just-as-imp/1100-6441800/
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

BatmanWTtP posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story

That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay.

You are concluding that entirely because youre triggered by one scene featuring a girlfriend out of three trailers

The scene isn't "featuring" a girlfriend. The scene is built around the girlfriend but doesn't contribute to the story in the slightest. The plot of the trailer is Ellie goes to a dance and has a flashback/flash forward to an intense fight before returning to the moment of peace. The way it's played out is Ellie goes to dance and gets hit on by a guy so her girlfriend can show up with the twist that they're lesbian. Then they dance and everyone is staring because they're lesbian. Then Elie flashes and we end the scene with the kiss.

There is no reason for the male at the beginning to exist other than for the "twist", there is no reason for half the conversation to exist except to draw attention to them being lesbians. None of that matters to the story or plot of the trailer. It's only there so they can parade around a gay character rather than telling a story with a character who happens to be gay.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

A character we knew was gay from the first game is, shockingly, still gay in the sequel and it seems that is at least a factor in the story

That's the problem. In LoU she was a character who happened to be gay. Now her character is that she's gay.
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scar the 1 posted...

BatmanWTtP posted...

The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.

It sounds like you're saying that her sexual orientation and people's reaction to it is a part of the story?

That's the problem, her sexual orientation isn't part of the story. It shouldn't matter if she's a lesbian or not. The problem is that she no longer gay because she's gay, she's now gay so it can be used for marketing.

Let's assume that her girlfriend dies and the story is about revenge. There are two ways to market this.

Our main character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge.
Or
Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge.

Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story, it's being used as nothing but a selling point.
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scar the 1 posted...

BatmanWTtP posted...

If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?

No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no.

The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.
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If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?
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Your main character's sexual orientation should not be a selling or advertising point for a video game. Except in porn games >_> It feels like we lost sight of things and care more about sending messages or making statements than we do the game itself. I don't know it just feels like this is less about writing a story where a character happens to be gay and more that this about being able to parade around a gay protagonist for diversity points. </rant>
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MacadamianNut3 posted...

Omg they are going to add tripping again

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH, DON'T BRING THIS EVIL UPON US
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https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/index.html
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JxOxNxIxCxS posted...

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JxOxNxIxCxS posted...

He's a shitty stand up. You really shouldnt have let him happen.

What has your country given us?

Jo Koy

I'd say we're even
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