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TopicLet's check in on the Democratic Party's candidate hunt
Balrog0
02/22/18 1:43:00 PM
#44
Antifar posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
If the the multiple whites from the East Coast (Cuomo/Warren/Sanders) run they gonna split their own vote here

There's no reason for Cuomo to be in that group; nobody is choosing between him and Warren/Sanders. Also I don't think he'll make it to even an early California primary.


how about de blasio?
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TopicBeen working out for over a year and i still have a belly.
Balrog0
02/22/18 1:41:40 PM
#82
wat
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 12:44:09 PM
#101
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Sorry, I should have said "I have no idea what your contention is here."

Sephiroth1288 posted...
I've been to the site, thanks. I haven't bothered to memorize everything on it. If you have a problem with the statistics I've shown here, either explain why they're misleading or stop being mealymouthed in an effort to downplay it.


I was very clear about both of these things, sorry you don't understand it.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
In that it hasn't been proven to have a meaningful effect on homicide whether it's gang-related or not? Yeah.


In that different kinds of gun control have different impacts on different kinds of gun violence. There are certainly gun control laws that reduce homicide. To think otherwise is simply ignorance

https://www.jhsph.edu/research/centers-and-institutes/johns-hopkins-center-for-gun-policy-and-research/resources/digtal_update_Webster_Vernick.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504296/
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 12:36:19 PM
#95
Sephiroth1288 posted...
I still have no idea what you're talking about here.


lol are you srs? you're the one who explained it to me, the margin of error around their numbers remember? they claim not to know the exact number when comparing the EU to the US, but they report an exact number when they compare individual EU countries to the US

I mean I actually do think I understand what they are doing there, it is just misleading. they are calculating the variance between select EU countries and then using that to calculate the confidence interval. Even if they had included every EU country, I don't think it's appropriate to do here for several reasons (like, why would gun violence be normally distributed around the average from these countries? we're not doing the things that we normally assume we're doing when we make those calculations afaik)

I get the feeling you are being selective in what you (are pretending to) understand here too

Sephiroth1288 posted...
I don't know what the EU's overall mass shooting rate is compared to the US. That's what I meant by "may".


it is in the complete chart if you had gone to the web site that your picture is from

Sephiroth1288 posted...
2015 is when the numbers were collated. You should've seen that in the website, right?


yeah, I know. they should keep running the numbers! right?

Sephiroth1288 posted...
And obviously mass shootings not related to gang crime is a rather separate issue from indiscriminate rampage killers. That's clearly why they parsed the data like that.


I'm not saying it isn't useful to think about them separately. But gun control is relevant to both things.
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TopicLet's check in on the Democratic Party's candidate hunt
Balrog0
02/22/18 12:27:06 PM
#25
Antifar posted...
Guys this was about 2018 candidates


I mean the Texan woman who has garnered so much support sounds way worse than this healthcare executive to me. I might be biased because I feel like I know people like her, but...

She originally ran for Congress 26 years ago and placed third. Since then she has jumped around different elected offices without any particular accomplishment besides generic crap ("I ensured the courts were fair and efficient, I protected tax dollars")

she only ran for what she has now because she lost to a republican in her prior position

again I might be biased because I know these kind of people here in Arkansas but jeez that is the perfect picture of a democrat who thinks they deserve the seat just because they are there
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 12:20:32 PM
#90
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Well the statistics clearly indicate that the US does not have a problem with mass shootings when compared with European countries.


I dunno, have you seen or heard them say what the confidence interval is for those numbers?

Sephiroth1288 posted...
The EU overall may


I mean, either it does or it doesn't. Either you are saying we can trust the numbers without the confidence interval or we can't. You don't get to have it both ways, that is my point.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
but the US isn't even in the top 10 when comparing individual European countries in terms of mass shooting deaths or mass shooting frequency.


I'd like to see if that's still true if you account for years prior to 2009 and after 2015, but it doesn't bother me if this is true even if you do that. It's a very truncated number that doesn't include many relevant aspects of the conversation IMO (like said exclusion of gun crime related to other crimes, or the exclusion of shootings in public places that aren't mass shootings, or the exclusion of mass shootings that aren't in public places) but I have always said that gun control is a poor way to deal with mass shootings...

my issue is with our larger problem with gun deaths than the flashy headlines mass shootings bring
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 12:06:00 PM
#87
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Obviously, not all mass shootings have clinical reports. Most are gang and drug-related and it's not always possible to tell exactly how many fatalities one shooting caused when victims will speed off and bleed out later.


You clearly haven't actually looked at the website. Mass shootings related to other crimes are being excluded from these statistics.

It's also not at all clear that they are calculating it on the basis of victims by incident. It seems they are reporting it as a variation between countries they've selected, which is even odder.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
Wait, so you think it's not fair to European countries account for population when it comes to mass shootings?


No, I don't (meaning, that isn't what I think).

I think it's 'unfair' to report statistics that favor your side and not the reverse.

Like saying the EU has a lower rate of mass shooting deaths and mass shooting frequency than the US, for instance, but then waving it off because it is not "significantly different statistically"

While also not making the same calculation when you show that particular EU countries have higher rates of those things.
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:54:58 AM
#85
Sephiroth1288 posted...
They appear to be talking about the margin of error as it pertains to the number of fatalities that occured. Where's the difficulty here?


we're not taking a random sample of a population in order to statistically discover the characteristics of the overall population so there is no reason to do that

the point calculation of the frequency of death from mass shootings is all they need to do

or alternatively, why aren't they doing this for the overall statistic they report? what is the confidence interval for 0.471 for Macedonia? The low population of many EU countries leaves them open to wide variations due to small adjustments so you would probably see wide margins around it if they did do such a thing
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:44:57 AM
#83
I mean it even says that the 95% confidence interval for the fatality rate from mass shootings is, "-.0244 to .253"

wat

does someone want to help me out here?
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:43:13 AM
#82
Sephiroth1288 posted...
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Anyone else want to defend the myth that Europe is somehow safer than the US?


I don't understand the website. It talks about the statistical confidence intervals involved in order to show that the US and Europe aren't statistically different despite the US having a higher rate overall, but what is there to run a regression on? It's a simple frequency calculation... right?
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TopicYou don't need to live in the congressional district you represent
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:33:40 AM
#1
I always forget that. I don't think it is common (I can't think of any sitting member of US congress that doesn't live in the district they represent) but yeah

http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2011/oct/07/brian-newberry/house-minority-leader-brian-newberry-says-congress/
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TopicLet's check in on the Democratic Party's candidate hunt
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:15:16 AM
#3
good lord, the state senator who has local support in Texas sounds awful
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TopicCE's Rumor Mill! Who's dating who and who did what?! V1
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:08:57 AM
#6
I heard Deadpool was hitting on you and trying to get pics of you in lingerie
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:04:37 AM
#54
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

My point is lumping suicides in with murders it no more useful that lumping in the deaths of a foreign invader. It makes a statistic that's useless.


I still don't understand lol

You're just reiterating that you don't want to talk about gun suicides and gun murders in the same topic. But you said you didn't care about gun deaths, period.

Your position makes no sense. If you don't care about 'voluntary deaths' like suicide then guns become a much bigger problem. In terms of leading causes of involuntary deaths, they are probably right below the entire category of 'accidents' which includes gun accidents. I suppose vehicular crashes would be up there too.
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TopicThe root of the problem is the bullying, not the NRA.
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:01:14 AM
#4
well I definitely agree the NRA isn't the root of the problem!
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TopicCommunity is one of the best shows ever.
Balrog0
02/22/18 11:00:00 AM
#24
EndOfDiscOne posted...
masterpug53 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Lost_All_Senses posted...
First 3 seasons were up there but the show took one of the biggest dips ever seen after that.


Temporary dip due to the firing of the showrunner. Some of the best episodes are in seasons 5 and 6. I really loved the first half of season 5.


I disagree. Season 5 was just barely less forgettable than Season 4, and proved that Harmon needed the Russos as much as they needed him.


Definitely disagree. There were a couple of bad episodes in season 5, but episodes 2-4 is my pick for the best 3 episode run in the entire series.


I don't think there's really anything that could have been done after losing so many people, though. The loss of Pierce and then Troy is a big deal. It makes the season suffer because not only does it take away some character beats they hit through interactions (losing two people is losing a lot of contrast between characters) but then they need to spend time introducing new people to the group which eats up time they would otherwise be using more meaningfully

I do agree season 5 is better and season 6 is even better than that, but the whole trajectory is off because they had to do the same thing again with Franke and Elroy
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 10:57:25 AM
#47
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Like I said, I'm not going to let suicide victims dictate my life. They chose it, murder victims did not. They are not the same statistic. It's bullshit to lump them in together.


That's not even close to an explanation. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it is bullshit to talk about gun deaths as gun deaths.

You have a bizarre attachment to your guns and supposed gun rights so I actually don't care what you think you're going to "let them" do to you

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
You might as well include the Japanese that were shot in the Aleutians during WW2. "Well they did die by firearms . . ."


I don't understand the analogy.
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 10:51:55 AM
#40
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Funkydog posted...
can simply be okay with children being gunned down

No one is okay with this, stop engaging in an utterly dishonest manor.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
and I don't care about a few measly thousand gun deaths a year.


lol okay dude nice backtrack
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 10:50:58 AM
#38
also @Anarchy_Juiblex continues to demonstrate a borderline insane stance on guns lol
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 10:50:17 AM
#36
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If you include suicides which most (including myself) don't.


why not? suicide itself is one of the leading causes of death in the US...
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TopicOther countries ban guns and have less gun deaths than the U.S.
Balrog0
02/22/18 10:46:16 AM
#27
Questionmarktarius posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
SilvosForever posted...
I don't care


and I don't care about a few measly thousand gun deaths a year.

Well at least youre honest about it

The harsh reality is that 15,549 out of 325,719,178 is statistically insignificant.

sources:
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045216
https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/gun-deaths-increase-2017/


isn't it more like 40,000 yearly deaths by guns in the US? Diabetes is only responsible for like 75k and you never hear the end of how fat people are awful
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TopicCNN gave students scripted questions
Balrog0
02/22/18 10:33:15 AM
#53
mikejones815 posted...
Their statement said he wanted to give a long speech, which isn't what it is for. Admittedly some of the people did talk for quite a bit, but I think if they'd have announced their intent beforehand they'd have been screened out too


I dunno, maybe so. The person I'm talking about was clearly reading a prepared statement but it isn't necessarily the case that she told CNN the truth about what she wanted to do
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TopicCNN gave students scripted questions
Balrog0
02/22/18 9:32:52 AM
#47
it doesn't make sense either way tbh, there were a lot of questions which were not really questions

one of those moms sounded like she was on horse tranqs and she just went on and on for a really long time and in the end her question was just, "what are you going to do about this"

so even though I am inclined to think that CNN didn't give him a scripted question per se I do totally believe they were screening particular opinions to air
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TopicSeriously can't watch CNN anymore.
Balrog0
02/21/18 9:24:54 PM
#25
It's not awesome. Some of their regular commentators are alright
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TopicR.I.P. senator Rubio's career (CNN)
Balrog0
02/21/18 9:21:15 PM
#4
No he's doing alright
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TopicThey not gonna remaster Diablo 2 because all yall was fucking hacking like crazy
Balrog0
02/21/18 5:16:00 PM
#27
what about tier 0.5?
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TopicWhen I have kids, I will teach them they can't always win.
Balrog0
02/21/18 5:06:51 PM
#10
that isn't how I was raised though

my parents didnt hit me
the rec leagues I was in didnt keep score and gave everyone trophies, which I still have on my mantle to this day
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TopicAnyone work for an employee owned business?
Balrog0
02/21/18 4:56:15 PM
#12
KILBOTz posted...
Master_Bass posted...
I like the idea of worker co-ops, but this wouldn't quite be one until you sold out I'd say. Still, I'd love to try working at a place that was employee owned and practiced workplace democracy.


it would be. im a worker, it would count by definition as employee stock owned. the vast majority of employee stock owned companies the founder retains a high percent of stock.


makes sense

though management isn't typically considered part of a company's 'labor force' in discussions like these
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TopicWhy do streets name after Martin Luther King Jr tend to be more violent?
Balrog0
02/21/18 4:49:06 PM
#37
eston posted...
Ours is in midtown, which was never a high crime area and in fact the last several years has seen a boom of new businesses


you know, businesses actually attract crime
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TopicWhy do streets name after Martin Luther King Jr tend to be more violent?
Balrog0
02/21/18 4:44:34 PM
#35
copout posted...
MLK street in Memphis is downtown and not a really a high crime street.


>memphis downtown
>not really high crime

choose one lol

nah but seriously there is crime all over the beale st area, though it is better right on the river in the fancy area around the orpheum

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/tn/memphis/crime
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TopicCommunity is one of the best shows ever.
Balrog0
02/21/18 4:32:43 PM
#7
nah

I mean, I really like Community, but the show doesn't hold up the best on re-watches imo. The last three seasons suffer too much from actor turnover. There are definitely flashes of brilliance in every season (including 4!) but overall I would say it is a good but not even great show when taken all together
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TopicThey not gonna remaster Diablo 2 because all yall was fucking hacking like crazy
Balrog0
02/21/18 4:27:41 PM
#15
CapnMuffin posted...
Remember duping in the original Diablo? That shit broke the game really quick.


I and my two Demonspike Coat rings, Demonspike Coat amulet, and Demonspike Coat sword beg to differ

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
I booted up the original Diablo a few year back and did a play through, found a something decent of haste (dont recall exactly) and merc'd the fuck out of the game from that point on.

Did a sorc play through after that and tested my skills, duping is still easy AF.

That game still holds up tbqh.


in terms of atmosphere it is better than D2, which is itself way, way better than D3 -- I hate how cartoony and 'warcraft-y' D3 is
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TopicIf you get mauled by a grizzly bear and survive...
Balrog0
02/21/18 2:55:49 PM
#11
no, but you likely are mentally and emotionally scarred from the experience if you let it negatively impact your life so you should probably seek treatment for you PTSD which will hopefully allow you to live a normal life that isn't full of irrational fear
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TopicBeen working out for over a year and i still have a belly.
Balrog0
02/21/18 2:42:35 PM
#74
is there really any evidence that the fasting part of IF is useful, as apart from just artificially limiting your caloric intake by restricting the time you give yourself to eat? I haven't looked into it in years but it wasn't a settled question back when I did care more and if anything the evidence I think leaned towards "fasting isn't actually useful"
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TopicWhy do streets name after Martin Luther King Jr tend to be more violent?
Balrog0
02/21/18 2:16:28 PM
#25
the serious answer is actually that MLK streets typically change names when they get closer to more affluent areas of the city for some reason
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TopicChina is now surpassing America in military air power
Balrog0
02/21/18 2:10:06 PM
#6
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a18211837/will-chinas-airpower-soon-rival-the-west/

While the Peoples Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF), the official name for the Chinese air force, has blossomed in the last two decades to one of the most powerful air arms in the world, it is still hobbled by serious problems, technological and otherwise.

The Economist states, for example, that Chinas first fifth generation fighter, the Chengdu J-20, has a much longer range than Americas new F-35 fighter, and will be a serious threat to American warships in the Pacific. The problem with this is that nobody really knows what the J-20s real range is. The low end of the J-20s range estimate is 745 miles, while the F-35Cs range is 632 miles. Thats pretty close, and is Chinas advantage melts away when you take into account U.S. forces have many more aerial refueling tankers, and are much more comfortable conducting aerial refuelings in general, than the PLAAF.

Furthermore, range is not the only performance metric. The F35C is Americas second fifth generation stealth fighter, and incorporates lessons learned from the F-22. It almost certainly incorporates better avionics, sensors, engines, and a man-machine interface than the J-20, which although an impressive first effort has a relatively thin amount of design experience to draw upon.

Another point The Economist makes is that China is tapping the private sector in ways the United States cannot, by ordering high tech industry to help design defense equipment. The Pentagon, by comparison, has to woo skeptical Silicon Valley companies to work with it. Yet by and large, the military industrial complex and Silicon Valley are separate entities working in industrial sectors. The Valleys software and consumer hardware, while certainly the best in the world, has limited utility when producing tanks and fighter jets and is more suited to the back-end world of computer networks and logistics. Silicon Valley has less to offer the Pentagon than may meet the eye.

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TopicNew poll shows Democrats leading the race for congress by 15 points!
Balrog0
02/21/18 1:59:30 PM
#15
Antifar posted...
.286 would be a very respectable batting average in baseball, only some sort of innumerate moron would pretend that player had no chance of getting a hit.


I always think about one of my fellow interns who worked for the professor that was responsible for the huffpost's polling averages

he would constantly bitch about how nate silver was misleading people into thinking Trump had more of a chance than he did. I think huffpost at one point had Trump as low as 1% though I dont know if that was his final score

lol
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TopicDemocrat Linda Belcher wins Kentucky house seat that voted heavily for Trump
Balrog0
02/21/18 1:57:35 PM
#7
yeah that is pretty meaningless imo
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